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Heisenberg
09-23-2008, 10:49 PM
http://thinkprogress.org/2008/09/23/maliki-bush-mccain-iraq/

EXCLUSIVE: Maliki Suggests Bush Pushed To Extend U.S. Presence In Iraq To Help McCain

Last July, Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki said U.S. troops should be out of Iraq “as soon as possible” and endorsed Sen. Barack Obama’s (D-IL) withdrawal plan. Obama “talks about 16 months. That, we think, would be the right time frame for a withdrawal, with the possibility of slight changes,” Maliki told Der Spiegel magazine.

Days later, as Obama wrapped up meetings with Iraqi leaders in Baghdad, Iraqi government spokesman Ali al-Dabbagh reiterated his government’s stance, saying “the end of 2010 is the appropriate time for the withdrawal.”

Negotiating the post-UN mandate security agreement with Iraq, Bush argued for more time and both sides ultimately agreed that all U.S. troops would be out of Iraq by the end of 2011, not 2010, even though Bush has said previously that “if they were to say, leave, we would leave.”

Why did Bush go back on his word? A source tells ThinkProgress that White House communications staff were concerned that Maliki’s endorsement of the 2010 time line would damage Sen. John McCain’s (R-AZ) presidential campaign. Indeed, during an interview with Iraqi television last week (according to an Open Source Center translation), Maliki suggested that the U.S. presidential elections played a role:

Actually, the final date was really the end of 2010 and the period between the end of 2010 and the end of 2011 was for withdrawing the remaining troops from all of Iraq, but they asked for a change [in date] due to political circumstances related to the [U.S] domestic situation so it will not be said to the end of 2010 followed by one year for withdrawal but the end of 2011 as a final date.

In fact, Iraqi President Jalal Talabani said that as part of the security agreement, Bush wanted U.S. troops to stay in Iraq even longer. “It was a U.S. proposal for the date which is 2015, and an Iraqi one which is 2010, then we agreed to make it 2011,” Talabani said.

But by endorsing Obama’s time line, Maliki indirectly slighted McCain, who has consistently and strenuously argued against setting a withdrawal date and has even said he wouldn’t mind having U.S. troops in Iraq for 100 years. But Maliki’s new position has left McCain scrambling, first saying its “a pretty good timetable,” but then denying he used “the word timetable” and later settling on “anything is good.”

Despite Bush’s constant refrain that commanders, not politics, will decide the course in Iraq, it seems that trying to help his party retain the White House is more important.

ThaBigP
09-23-2008, 11:35 PM
A wonderful attempt to spin out of the fact that Obama attempted to postpone a troop withdrawl deal already struck until after the election. Whole lotta presumin' goin' on out there...

:lmao2:

jrumann59
09-24-2008, 12:06 AM
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Its President and Chief Executive Officer is John Podesta, who served as chief of staff to then U.S. President Bill Clinton. Located in Washington, D.C., the Center for American Progress has a campus outreach group, Campus Progress, and a sister advocacy organization, the Center for American Progress Action Fund.


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The Center was often featured prominently on the Al Franken Show on the Air America Radio network, where Christy Harvey and Franken discussed at length alleged dishonesty and incompetence in the Bush Administration.

The Center has no information on its Web site about its funding, but the Washington Post reported that "seed money pledged by such deep-pocketed Democrats as regular liberal financier George Soros (and mortgage billionaires Herbert and Marion Sandler)" assisted its formation.[2] The authors of Her Way, a biography of Hillary Clinton, also assert that the Democracy Alliance, a liberal donors collective, has funded the Center. They also assert that the Sandlers and Soros provided seed money.[3]

The Center helped Congressman John Murtha (D-PA) develop "strategic redeployment",[4] a comprehensive plan for Iraq that includes a timetable and troop withdrawals.

I know that wiki isn't the most accurate they put into words better than I do.

ThaBigP
09-24-2008, 12:15 AM
By the way, it was no secret whatsoever that Bush wanted us there until 2015. It's also no secret that Iraq wanted a deal to get us out sooner. A compromise was reached. What "non"think"un"progress did was write "...to help McCain win the election" on a stickynote and tack it onto what we already new months and months ago, and parade it around as a "real" news story, or some sort of controversy. Conveniently after it was revealed that Obama attempted to halt the very same deal struck by the President on troop withdrawls until after the elections. That, by the way, was a violation of the Constitution. A Senator does not get to represent the executive arm of our government to foreign nations (and indeed isn't even *in* the executive branch - he's in the legislative branch).

BrAinPaiNt
09-24-2008, 04:56 AM
See I said this with the Obama thread concerning this topic.

I don't get this whole thing because it appears that the suggested date they were working for was going to be after the elections anyways so I am not getting where either side is making much of a play here since the date that was talked about will be after the elections.

Heisenberg
09-24-2008, 06:23 AM
The major flaw with this story and it's a HUGE flaw, is why in the world wouldn't it be BENEFICIAL to McCain to have the withdrawal right this second because the Iraqis are ready to take over?

I just shot down the article I posted I think. :)