Roy Williams [Lions] getting fed up; thinks Lions could be cursed

[Pick6TerenceNewman]

BY RICK GOSSELIN • DALLAS MORNING NEWS • September 24, 2008

ALLEN PARK — Ask Roy Williams about his losses in high school at Odessa Permain, Texas, and he can remember each and every one. There were 19 in four years.


Ask Williams about his losses in college at Texas and he can remember each and every one. There were 10 in four years. He can even offer up details.

But ask Williams about his losses the last five years with the Detroit Lions (http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080924/SPORTS01/80924011/1049/SPORTS01#) and his memory becomes a blur.

“I started counting them up last off-season,” Williams said, “but I lost track.”

Easy to see why. The Lions have played 67 games since drafting Williams and have lost 46 of them, including all three this season.

“Losing has always bothered me, here or anywhere else,” Williams said. “I went to the Pro Bowl two years ago, and to see those other guys — winners, guys who went to the playoffs — to see their faces. . . . They’re excited. I’m 3-13 and I’m feeling out of place. I’d just like to win one year just to see what it feels like.”

Williams may get that chance in 2009. He’s finishing up his five-year rookie contract and could be eligible for free agency this off-season.

“Everybody would like to stay where they are drafted,” Williams said. “But at the same time, everybody would like to go back home as they get older. My home is Texas.”

Talk radio has been crackling with his name as a potential addition for the Cowboys to give them a younger, deeper, more talented corps of wide receivers (http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080924/SPORTS01/80924011/1049/SPORTS01#). Williams knows there’s a yearning for him back home.

“My brother keeps me informed,” said Williams of Lloyd Hill, a former NCAA receiving champion at Texas Tech who lives in Grand Prairie.

But there’s no guarantee that Williams will leave Detroit in 2009, even though the two sides are not talking contract at this point. It’s not that the talks have broken off. They never started.

“They say this organization waits until the last minute,” Williams said. “It doesn’t bother me. I really don’t care. If I’m here, they’re going to pay me. If not, I’ll be somewhere else.”

The Lions can prevent Williams from leaving by slapping a franchise tag on him. That would guarantee him a one-year contract at an average salary of the five highest-paid wide receivers in the NFL (http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080924/SPORTS01/80924011/1049/SPORTS01#).

But the Lions also could send him packing early. If the losses continue to mount, the NFL trade deadline looms on Oct. 14. A team suddenly building for the future such as the Lions may be swayed by a premium draft pick or two.

“It’s always in the back of my mind,” Williams said. “What’s going to happen? Am I going to get franchised? Are they going to pay me, or am I going to end up somewhere else? Or are they going to trade me in the middle of the season like Chris Chambers last year?”

Williams is a proven commodity. He caught 82 passes for 1,310 yards and seven touchdowns in his Pro Bowl season in 2006, then lit up Philadelphia for a nine-catch, 204-yard game in 2007. But a knee injury last December cost him the chance for back-to-back 1,000-yard seasons. He spent the final four games on injured reserve.

Williams is only 26 with plenty of quality football years left in his body. He could see himself spending those years in Detroit.

“When I got drafted, the first thing I said was I want to be the one who turns this franchise around,” Williams said. “So far that hasn’t happened. But that’s still my goal, to turn this place around.”

But Williams may need a little help. The Lions, who have a bye this week, are one of six NFL franchises that have never been to a Super Bowl.
“I think this place is cursed,” Williams said. “I asked our chaplain if he knew anyone who could christen Ford Field to get it right for us.”

[DaBoys4Life]

I'd be pissed if he want to the Tecans.

[reddyuta]

who wants to play for the texans?-he meant the cowboys.come home roy.

[Pick6TerenceNewman]

who wants to play for the texans?-he meant the cowboys.come home roy.


Roy Williams is over-rated.

[Hostile]

Roy Williams is over-rated.Give me some of that over rated on this team this year and no one will beat us. We would do what New England could not.

[khiladi]

Roy Williams is over-rated.

The more I look at his numbers, the more it seems to me you may be right. But, there seems to be no doubt that even if he over-rated, he would be the perfect addition for this team. And that is what it ultimately is about, making additions that make the team better.

I don't think ego would be a big thing for Roy, considering he hasn't so much as peeped a word with all the drafting of WRs in Detroit.

[dadymat]

Give me some of that over rated on this team this year and no one will beat us. We would do what New England could not.
ageed

[CrazyCowboy]

maybe he should not come here CURSED with all those L's

[Boysboy]

With Millen out of the way, I am 99% certain now he'll be traded.

I just hope it's to US.:starspin

[McCordsville Cowboy]

Crayton Blows...

Give me Roy...

[khiladi]

Who would you give up for Roy Williams? And please don't say Crayton, because Detroit is loaded with WRs and Detroit isn't going to want Patrick Crayton.

And Crayton as a third is perfect for this team anyways.

[Doomsday101]

Give me some of that over rated on this team this year and no one will beat us. We would do what New England could not.

I agree. Detriot problems is not WR they don't have a QB worth a damn

[khiladi]

I agree. Detriot problems is not WR they don't have a QB worth a damn

Besides the fact that Kitna is wildly inconsistent and holds onto the ball way too long, there offensive line is horrible as well. What type of blocking scheme do they emply in Detroit? Maybe we can get rid of Proctor...

[gbrittain]

Give me some of that over rated on this team this year and no one will beat us. We would do what New England could not.

I would say the chance of Roy W going back to Detroit in 2009 are zero to none.

I would also say the chance of Detroit making the playoffs this year are zero to none.

If Detroit does not even attempt a trade they have lost their mind.

Actually they really did lose their mind long time ago...

[garrett316]

We have an extra 3rd and a 4th in next year's draft. I'd give Detroit a 1st, 3rd and 4th for him, provided we have the parameters for an extension on his contract.
If you put him on the field with Witten and T.O., This offense is virtually unstoppable.

[Doomsday101]

Besides the fact that Kitna is wildly inconsistent and holds onto the ball way too long, there offensive line is horrible as well. What type of blocking scheme do they emply in Detroit? Maybe we can get rid of Proctor...

Bad combo, QB holds it too long behind a line that does not block well. :D
I don't expect to see any trade taking place with the Lions, a new GM will take his time for the remainder of the season and any big moves will be made after the season.

[DaBoys4Life]

Give me some of that over rated on this team this year and no one will beat us. We would do what New England could not.

thats so true.

[starfrombirth]

Who would you give up for Roy Williams? And please don't say Crayton, because Detroit is loaded with WRs and Detroit isn't going to want Patrick Crayton.

And Crayton as a third is perfect for this team anyways.

Burnett, Roy Williams (safety), and Crayton/Hurd for Roy Williams (wr). No draft picks.:cool:

[DaBoys4Life]

Burnett, Roy Williams (safety), and Crayton/Hurd for Roy Williams (wr). No draft picks.:cool:

......

[zrinkill]

Burnett, Roy Williams (safety), and Crayton/Hurd for Roy Williams (wr). No draft picks.:cool:

That would not work salary cap wise.

[aikemirv]

We have an extra 3rd and a 4th in next year's draft. I'd give Detroit a 1st, 3rd and 4th for him, provided we have the parameters for an extension on his contract.
If you put him on the field with Witten and T.O., This offense is virtually unstoppable.


aRe YoU NuTs?:eek: :eek:

[zrinkill]

aRe YoU NuTs?:eek: :eek:

If he is .... then so am I.

[CowboyWay]

I don't know if I'd give up too much at this point. THe season is 1/4 of the way done. And its painfully clear to every GM in the country that this kid is coming to dallas next year as a free agent.

Why give up the farm for him if everyone knows this is where he wants to be? I'd offer the Lions a 3rd rounder and see if they bite.

[khiladi]

http://www.topix.com/nfl/detroit-lions/2008/09/as-lions-lose-roy-williams-not-happy-as-role-player

This article was from September 16th, way prior to the Matt Millen firing. Maybe it was a big influence in the firing.

[aikemirv]

I don't know if I'd give up too much at this point. THe season is 1/4 of the way done. And its painfully clear to every GM in the country that this kid is coming to dallas next year as a free agent.

Why give up the farm for him if everyone knows this is where he wants to be? I'd offer the Lions a 3rd rounder and see if they bite.

I,m with you there....


I like him and would like him on the team, but a 1st, 3rd and 4th for a guy whose value to Detroit decreases very day, I don't think so!

[CowboyWay]

I like him and would like him on the team, but a 1st, 3rd and 4th for a guy whose value to Detroit decreases very day, I don't think so!


That would be pure insanity.

[garrett316]

aRe YoU NuTs?:eek: :eek:
Really? The window to win a SB is very small, this is a SB caliber team, imo with Williams as your 2nd receiver its nearly a slam dunk if we stay relatively injury free(Romo). If T.O. was to get hurt, you like lining up 3 wide with Crayton, Hurd, and Austin? You bring Roy Williams aboard, and while he's not T.O., he certainly demands a defense's attention.
The Cowboys have 9 draft picks next year, not counting likely compensation for Julius, Nate Jones, and Reeves. The first rounder is very likely to be in the late 20's or 30's, plus they have Detroit and Cleveland's 3rd and 4th. That's not a fair price for a security blanket like Roy Williams, provided he agrees to an extension?

[DaBoys4Life]

Really? The window to win a SB is very small, this is a SB caliber team, imo with Williams as your 2nd receiver its nearly a slam dunk if we stay relatively injury free(Romo). If T.O. was to get hurt, you like lining up 3 wide with Crayton, Hurd, and Austin? You bring Row Williams aboard, and while he's not T.O., he certainly demands a defense's attention.
The Cowboys have 9 draft picks next year, not counting likely compensation for Julius, Nate Jones, and Reeves. The first rounder is very likely to be in the late 20's and 30's, plus they have Detroit and Cleveland's 3rd and 4th. That's not a fair price for a security blanket like Roy Williams?

IDK with the team we have know theres no reason that we should be able to win 3 superbowls in the next 4-7 years.

[Hostile]

Roy Williams is now throwing the Coaching Staff under the bus. Greasing the wheels folks...

Roy Williams: It's not Matt Millen's fault

BY GEORGE SIPPLE • FREE PRESS SPORTS WRITER • September 24, 2008

It was team photo day Tuesday at the Lions' headquarters in Allen Park.

But president and CEO Matt Millen wasn't there to put on a happy face. Neither was owner William Clay Ford or his son, Lions vice chairman Bill Ford Jr.

A team spokesman said it's typical for players to be on hand for the photo and for images of team executives to be photo shopped in later. But on the day after Ford Jr. said he would fire Millen if he had the authority, the void was more pronounced than usual.

Wide receiver (http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080924/SPORTS01/809240369/1049/SPORTS01#) Roy Williams said everyone's entitled to his or her opinion, but he didn't think Millen should be fired.

Kicker Jason Hanson said, after the team's 0-3 start, Ford Jr. could have said everyone should be fired.

"Like I tell everybody else," Williams said, "if I was the coordinator, I'd be in four-wide (receiver sets). I'm not the coordinator. ... That's why I like this country. You can say what you want to say."

The players, Williams said, ultimately are responsible for the team's performance.

"I don't know what goes on in the front office," Williams said. "I don't think the front office makes a football team. I think we have a real good nucleus of players. I think Matt has done a great job of putting the team together.

"If you look on paper, we're a pretty good football team. So I can't blame the front office for anything. I wouldn't fire the guy. It's not his fault."
Hanson, who has been with the Lions for 17 years, said Ford Jr.'s comments didn't surprise him.

"If he'd have said, 'Fire everybody,' would you be surprised?" Hanson said. "When you're not playing good and you're 0-3 ... everybody from the owner to the kicker should be upset and tired and sick of what's happening. I'm not surprised or shocked or anything."

Does Hanson expect changes?

"I don't know," Hanson said. "That's so far out of my realm. From a player's perspective, you know, it might be symbolic for the city. But, for us, what would it change?

"This is the NFL (http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080924/SPORTS01/809240369/1049/SPORTS01#). This is high performance, and when you don't do what you're supposed to, you fear that you're not going to be around."

Contact GEORGE SIPPLE at 313-223-4796 or gsipple@freepress.com.

[newlander]

I agree 100% that he's overrated. Been watching him here in Michigan for years. Drops 2 balls a game, runs very bad routes, pouts.......we don't need him and shouldn't want him. Sorry U-T fans but that's the God's honest truth with him............

[Sam I Am]

Burnett, Roy Williams (safety), and Crayton/Hurd for Roy Williams (wr). No draft picks.:cool:

With our Superbowl aspirations, Burnett isn't going anywhere. He plays quite a bit and we don't have a quality replacement for him.

[aikemirv]

IDK with the team we have know theres no reason that we should be able to win 3 superbowls in the next 4-7 years.

Thats right and there is no guarantee with him either.

They did a graphic on the FA Wr signed in the offseason on the NFL network last night.

The 4 guys contracts were worth 165 mill or so.

They have 3 catches this year I think!:eek: :eek: :eek:

[Faerluna]

I'd be pissed if he want to the Tecans.

He said he wanted to win.

:p: :D

[DaBoys4Life]

Thats right and there is no guarantee with him either.

They did a graphic on the FA Wr signed in the offseason on the NFL network last night.

The 4 guys contracts were worth 165 mill or so.

They have 3 catches this year I think!:eek: :eek: :eek:

who where the FA WR's?????

[REDVOLUTION]

I just saw Roy.... he was singing "cause I'ma Cowboy... on a steel horse I ride....."

[BigDinAZ]

Could you imagine TO on the left, and Williams on the Right!!!!

I'm getting goosebumps!!!

[Hostile]

Could you imagine TO on the left, and Williams on the Right!!!!

I'm getting goosebumps!!!Don't forget Witten and Barber.

[aikemirv]

who where the FA WR's?????


Porter,Stallworth,Walker and ???????

[Romo2Dez4six]

Don't forget Witten and Barber.
and Crayton in the slot:eek: :D , oh yeah and Felix

[garrett316]

Porter,Stallworth,Walker and ???????
3 guys that couldn't carry Roy Williams jock.

[DaBoys4Life]

Porter,Stallworth,Walker and ???????

All of those teams are struggling has Stallworth even played yet? Porter is playing in Jackonsville (run first) Walker is in Oakland (nuff said). If you put any of those guys on this team they wouldn't have any of those problems.

[arync]

We have an extra 3rd and a 4th in next year's draft. I'd give Detroit a 1st, 3rd and 4th for him, provided we have the parameters for an extension on his contract.
If you put him on the field with Witten and T.O., This offense is virtually unstoppable.


Thats a bit bit much maybe a 3rd in 2009 and a 5th in 2010

[Doomsday101]

We have an extra 3rd and a 4th in next year's draft. I'd give Detroit a 1st, 3rd and 4th for him, provided we have the parameters for an extension on his contract.
If you put him on the field with Witten and T.O., This offense is virtually unstoppable.

Lions are not going to give him away which is what they would be doing for this price. I think it will take more than throwing a 3rd and a 4th at them along with our 1st pick which chances are will be a low 1st rd pick. Put yourself in the Lions shoes you don't think you could be a better deal from some other team?

[Kilyin]

Porter,Stallworth,Walker and ???????

Bernard Berrian...

I really don't see what all the hype with Roy Williams is either. He's not all that, imo.

[DaBoys4Life]

Bernard Berrian...

I really don't see what all the hype with Roy Williams is either. He's not all that, imo.

so says the Vikings fan.

[Kilyin]

so says the Vikings fan.

If only you were a Vikings fan..

[DaBoys4Life]

If only you were a Vikings fan..

go on......

[khiladi]

I think it is fare to say Roy Williams hasn't lived up to his hype. What is disputable is why he hasn't lived up to his hype...

[aikemirv]

I think it is fare to say Roy Williams hasn't lived up to his hype. What is disputable is why he hasn't lived up to his hype...

Yep, I am one who thinks a change of scenery would make all the difference in the world.

[BraveHeartFan]

Give me some of that over rated on this team this year and no one will beat us. We would do what New England could not.

While I'll agree that I wouldn't mind some of that over-rated here I don't know that I'd go far enough to say that we'd go undefeated. But we'd certainly go 18-1 or 17-2 with the last win being the one that New England couldn't secure last year.

[Kilyin]

go on......

Not sure what you were trying to imply with your comment either, so we'll just leave it at that for now.

[Doomsday101]

I think it is fare to say Roy Williams hasn't lived up to his hype. What is disputable is why he hasn't lived up to his hype...

I don't know playing with a QB who has thrown more ints than TD passes since he has been in Det playing behind a line that has given up 63 sacks Kitna 1st year then gave up 51 last year and have alread given up 12 sacks in 3 games this year. Unless the WR can block and throw the ball to himself it is hard to do much.

[CowboyChris]

personally i dont see RW being a Cowboy soon, i seriously doubt they trade him before the Oct 14th deadline, and more than likely will be franchised this offseason, would you send 2 - 1st round picks for him. i wouldnt. plus he is going to want to get paid. we have other players whose contracts are coming namely DeMarcus Ware :starspin

[speedkilz88]

Lions are not going to give him away which is what they would be doing for this price. I think it will take more than throwing a 3rd and a 4th at them along with our 1st pick which chances are will be a low 1st rd pick. Put yourself in the Lions shoes you don't think you could be a better deal from some other team?
SD got Chris Chambers last year for a 2nd round pick, a first, third and fourth would be a generous offer.

[Doomsday101]

SD got Chris Chambers last year for a 2nd round pick, a first, third and fourth would be a generous offer.

I think Williams value is greater. I think his upside is well beyond Chambers and I don't think the Lions will settle for that I know I wouldn't. If they do then they deserve the be the bottom dwelling team they have been.

[sacowboysfan513]

Roy Williams has had to play with Joey Harrington and Jon Kitna. Not the greatest QB's.

Put him with Romo and lets see what Romo can do with the guy.

[Hostile]

Not to stir the fire any more than it already is being stirred, but by any chance did you notice that the original article is not written by a Detroit Sportswriter? It's written by DMN's own Rick Gosselin.

[aikemirv]

Detroits hands are kinda tied.

RW can pretty much block any trade by not negotiating in good faith with the trade partner.

So if I were them and were not planning on paying him next year I would call up Dallas and see what they would give me for him, if October 14th comes around, and I am out of the playoff picture.

Which they almost are now.

[khiladi]

http://freep.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080916/SPORTS01/809160356/1048



He kept his sense of humor. But Roy Williams made it clear Monday that, because the Lions are losing, he is not happy with how often he is thrown the ball nor the role of No. 2 receiver.

"I feel that if I'm not involved in the game and we lose, I'm (ticked) off," Williams said. "But if I'm not involved and we win, hey, it's a great job. And I've been like that since I've been here. I just feel like I can make some plays, as well. ... Three balls a week, that's not going to cut it."

Asked if he had himself on his fantasy team, Williams said: "Heck, no." Asked if he had teammate Calvin Johnson, Williams said: "Yeah, I got Calvin."

Through two games, both lopsided losses, Williams has six catches for 95 yards and a touchdown, and Johnson has 13 catches for 236 yards and two TDs. Williams also misread a route leading to an interception last week in Atlanta and has been flagged for two pass interference penalties. Both he and Johnson have dropped passes.

"The first week, I had five balls thrown my way -- caught three for 47," Williams said. "This week, I had six come my way -- three for 48. So keeping on my average."

Is that enough?

"Enough balls come my way?" Williams said. "No, sir. No, sir."

How many would be enough?

"As many times as we're throwing the football, I don't know how many we're throwing on the other side, but my side it's six," Williams said. "This is the Mike Martz system, but not really. But in Mike Martz's system, I would have had at least 10 to 12 balls come my way."

The Lions fired Martz after last season and named Jim Colletto offensive coordinator.

"I'm in the same position," Williams said. "I just think I'm in a different role right now. I really think I'm a role player right now."

Because of Johnson's emergence?

"Yeah, I think so," Williams said. "He's doing his thing on the other side. He's making big plays for us. I'm just a guy that comes in and sneaks about two or three balls in a game, try to get some first downs, keep the chains moving.

"I mean, that's fine. It's not fine when we lose, but it's fine when we win. I just want to win, man, and if I feel like I'm not helping the team in that thing right there, then I'm mad."

Does quarterback (http://freep.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080916/SPORTS01/809160356/1048#) Jon Kitna look for Johnson, 6-5, more than Williams, 6-3?

"I think so," Williams said. "I always joke with him because, when he throws the ball to me, he kind of throws it like I'm 6-7, up there with Calvin."
Kitna disputed that.

"I think these first couple weeks, we definitely want to get him the ball
more," Kitna said of Williams. "I think we tried to get him the ball more yesterday. We just missed on a few plays. Unfortunately had the pass interference call they called against him, and things like that.

"We tried to get him the ball. I don't know how many times we threw it in his direction yesterday. But there's not a cognizant effort to go away from him on my part."

Williams said he would never go to the coaches to complain.

"I don't know, man," Williams said. "It's like a bad year to be Roy Williams right now. I've got two pass interference (penalties) in two games that shouldn't be pass interference by no means. I mean, it's tough right now. But we'll get this thing straightened out."

[bbgun]

Give me some of that over rated on this team this year and no one will beat us. We would do what New England could not.

Do you mean go undefeated or merely win a Super Bowl? They didn't need Williams to do either last year. All they needed was their D to make a stop (or prevent one miraculous pass).

[aikemirv]

He just has the Barry Sanders syndrome - with one difference.


The light at the end of the tunnell!!!

By the way, he won't get more than 6 balls a week his way here either, but at least he will be winning.

[Nexx]

We have an extra 3rd and a 4th in next year's draft. I'd give Detroit a 1st, 3rd and 4th for him, provided we have the parameters for an extension on his contract.
If you put him on the field with Witten and T.O., This offense is virtually unstoppable.

are you smoking crack? no way lions franchise him or pay him what he wants. he is a #2 on a rebuilding team, you cant pay franchise money or a #1's salary to a #2. bascially he is gone after this season, there is no reason to overpay for him. give them a 2 and 4 and be done with it.

[Nexx]

He just has the Barry Sanders syndrome - with one difference.


The light at the end of the tunnell!!!

By the way, he won't get more than 6 balls a week his way here either, but at least he will be winning.

6 x 17 yards are a catch = 102 yards a game.. ill take that!

[ThreeSportStar80]

He's just stuck on a sorry team with a pretty bad QB, who loves to put the blame elsewhere when he throws an INT. I wonder will he be franchised??

[Doomsday101]

He's just stuck on a sorry team with a pretty bad QB, who loves to put the blame elsewhere when he throws an INT. I wonder will he be franchised??

I think it will depend on who the next GM is. Detriot needs to invest in a QB and some help on their O-Line. I don't think you rebuild a team by letting talent get away from you.

[jusdre]

yea we should take the guy if it presents its self for us

[Dodger12]

Prior to the draft, I would have given a #1 and a #3 for RW. Not so now. We've done a great job of infusing this team with good young talent and there's nothing to indicate that this will change. Would you trade Felix, Bennet/Scrandrick for a #2 WR that might, at best, be Romo's third option behind TO and Witten?

I'd take RW in a heartbeat, as long as he's a FA and it doesn't cost us any picks. The fact that RW wants to come home and Jerry is willing to spend money can make this happen. JMO.

[Pick6TerenceNewman]

The more I look at his numbers, the more it seems to me you may be right. But, there seems to be no doubt that even if he over-rated, he would be the perfect addition for this team. And that is what it ultimately is about, making additions that make the team better.

I don't think ego would be a big thing for Roy, considering he hasn't so much as peeped a word with all the drafting of WRs in Detroit.


He isn't even their best WR. Plus, if he was all of that, the Lions would have given him a new deal.

[Hostile]

He isn't even their best WR. Plus, if he was all of that, the Lions would have given him a new deal.Do you have any idea of how ridiculous that is?

[Pick6TerenceNewman]

Do you have any idea of how ridiculous that is?


It's true! Face it, he is just another over-rated University of Texas player.

[Hostile]

It's true! Face it, he is just another over-rated University of Texas player.No, it's not true. Teams let go of talented players all the time for one reason or another.

Terrell Owens, Randy Moss, Chris Chambers, just to name a few current WRs.

[jackrussell]

I agree 100% that he's overrated. Been watching him here in Michigan for years. Drops 2 balls a game, runs very bad routes, pouts.......we don't need him and shouldn't want him. Sorry U-T fans but that's the God's honest truth with him............

Sounds like another WR that came here but straightened up his act.

[Pick6TerenceNewman]

No, it's not true. Teams let go of talented players all the time for one reason or another.

Terrell Owens, Randy Moss, Chris Chambers, just to name a few current WRs.

All three are all were disgruntaled.

[dogberry]

Will Williams be content with being the third choice behind Witten and Owens? How much will it cost Detroit to franchise him? $10 million?

[jackrussell]

Will Williams be content with being the third choice behind Witten and Owens? How much will it cost Detroit to franchise him? $10 million?

I think, IMO, that'll he'll be content in winning.

[zrinkill]

All three are all were disgruntaled.

What do you think Roy is becoming?

[Timbo2st]

Boldin or Williams?

I'll take either one next season.

[Pick6TerenceNewman]

What do you think Roy is becoming?


LOL! Why over pay for somebody else's player that they don't want. The Cowboys are fine at WR and don't need to have another over-rated player on their team.

[bbgun]

Boldin or Williams?

I'll take either one next season.

In the words of Judge Smails, "You'll get nothing and like it."

[zrinkill]

LOL! Why over pay for somebody else's player that they don't want. The Cowboys are fine at WR and don't need to have another over-rated player on their team.

Wow ..... ok

[Sam I Am]

LOL! Why over pay for somebody else's player that they don't want. The Cowboys are fine at WR and don't need to have another over-rated player on their team.

TO will be 35 (currently 34) THIS Season. Roy Williams will be 27 (currently 26) this season.

Subtract TO and Crayton is our #1 WR. ...I don't think so.

[stasheroo]

TO will be 35 (currently 34) THIS Season. Roy Williams will be 27 (currently 26) this season.

Subtract TO and Crayton is our #1 WR. ...I don't think so.

I'm not sure anyone does.

The Packers made it a priority to stop Owens and Witten Sunday Night and Crayton was still held without a catch.

It's nice to see a guy like Austin step up and hopefully that continues, but I'd sure like to have insurance and a plan for the future if it's up to me.

[Hostile]

LOL! Why over pay for somebody else's player that they don't want. The Cowboys are fine at WR and don't need to have another over-rated player on their team.I'd answer this normally, but today I just have a why bother feeling. Like it would be more productive to talk to my wall.

[JPM]

I'd answer this normally, but today I just have a why bother feeling. Like it would be more productive to talk to my wall.
You can talk to me if you like

[jbsg02]

The likelyhood of him getting franchised has to be pretty slim with them paying all that money to calvin johnson and i believe they gave a nice contract to furrey

[DallasEast]

I'd answer this normally, but today I just have a why bother feeling. Like it would be more productive to talk to my wall.Time for a laugh!

http://www.mydatabus.com/public/dallaseast/e/rowdyandbrickwall.jpg