details of deal for Joey galloway

[Henson7]

I guess this post will reveal I'm a newbie..but I read somewhere cowboys gave up 2 1st round picks for Joey galloway a while ago. Is this true? was galloway..kinda like Moss back then or what?..I mean the deal sounds so stupid..can someone enlighten me?

[trickblue]

I guess this post will reveal I'm a newbie..but I read somewhere cowboys gave up 2 1st round picks for Joey galloway a while ago. Is this true? was galloway..kinda like Moss back then or what?..I mean the deal sounds so stupid..can someone enlighten me?

It was just plain stupid... most were stunned by the announcement...

[Yeagermeister]

I liked, well sort of liked, the deal until he was left in the game at the end of blowout and ripped up his knee.

[Hostile]

I guess this post will reveal I'm a newbie..but I read somewhere cowboys gave up 2 1st round picks for Joey galloway a while ago. Is this true? was galloway..kinda like Moss back then or what?..I mean the deal sounds so stupid..can someone enlighten me?
We had lost Michael Irvin and Keyshawn Johnson had gone to Tampa for the same price. Jerry paid the going rate which was outrageous.

[trickblue]

I liked, well sort of liked, the deal until he was left in the game at the end of blowout and ripped up his knee.

One #1 and maybe a later pick... maybe a #3... but NOT two ones... that was a killer...

[Eric_Boyer]

I know of nobody that liked the deal.

We are the cowboys, we must always be on the receiving end of those mega draft deals for players.

As for the player, I am still shocked by his demise.

[chargrove]

I know of nobody that liked the deal.

We are the cowboys, we must always be on the receiving end of those mega draft deals for players.

As for the player, I am still shocked by his demise.
No kidding. Galloway is in the toilet. What happened?

[DoomsDayD]

WOW what a gut wrenching memory that is. THANKS A LOT!!!

[tyke1doe]

One #1 and maybe a later pick... maybe a #3... but NOT two ones... that was a killer...

Bingo.

I don't sweat the Cowboys for giving up a No. 1 because we needed a go-to guy for Troy. But two No. 1s??? And remember, we had given a No. 3 for James McKnight.

That was an awful trade. And Galloway is overrated, confirmed when this Sunday instead of reading the blitz package, Galloway just ran straight down the field not even trying to bail Griese out.

He's a down-field prima donna. That's not going to work in today's NFL.

[Waffle]

I guess this post will reveal I'm a newbie..but I read somewhere cowboys gave up 2 1st round picks for Joey galloway a while ago. Is this true? was galloway..kinda like Moss back then or what?..I mean the deal sounds so stupid..can someone enlighten me?
Welcome Henson7. As a "newbie", you even recognized this deal was stupid. Why couldn't Jerry realize the same thing before he actually made the deal?

The second Jerry called to agree to this trade, Seattle mgmt. had to have all been slapping high-fives while totally laughing their A$$es off at us. :(

[Yeagermeister]

No kidding. Galloway is in the toilet. What happened?
He played last week for the first time since opening day i believe.

[Juke99]

I guess this post will reveal I'm a newbie..but I read somewhere cowboys gave up 2 1st round picks for Joey galloway a while ago. Is this true? was galloway..kinda like Moss back then or what?..I mean the deal sounds so stupid..can someone enlighten me?


Hey..welcome aboard "newbie"... :)

The idea Jerry had in mind was, he would bring in Galloway and have an offense that was similar to the Rams...it assumed Aikman would be healthy...

Galloway went down with a knee injury during the first game....and was lost for the season...Aikman retired before the next season...

Bad trade....especially when ya look at Alexander's rushing numbers every week...the Seahawks used one of the first rounders to select Alexander...ouch.

[jcblanco22]

I guess this post will reveal I'm a newbie..but I read somewhere cowboys gave up 2 1st round picks for Joey galloway a while ago. Is this true? was galloway..kinda like Moss back then or what?..I mean the deal sounds so stupid..can someone enlighten me?

It's one of those "if you knew then what you know now" deals, although 2 1st rounders was a high price at any time in Galloway's career.

If you want better perspective on what Jerry's thinking was at the time you have to look at the whole picture. The team had just junked Chan Gailey's offense after 2 seasons and it was widely believed that Aikman, who always had Jerry's ear, had pushed hard for a shift in offensive philosophy that heavily approximated the Zampese/Turner systems (lots of routes based on exact timing, straight I-formation, etc.) that he'd had so much success in before. Just as importantly, Jerry had just learned of Michael Irvin's official retirement, leaving him with a miscast Raghib Ismail as his #1 receiver heading into the free agency signing period.

Meanwhile, Galloway had made it clear he was not up to playing for the Seahawks after having held out for half of the season in '99. Mike Holmgren was entering his 2nd season as HC and at that point in time as GM also, and did not want the distraction of the disgruntled receiver. Galloway had racked up 4 nice seasons before that protracted '99 campaign and if I remember correctly, had the highest yards per catch average in NFL history at the time over a career. He also had put together multiple 60+ catch seasons and double-digit touchdown seasons.

The thing Galloway had never been known for was toughness over the middle, a la Irvin. He was in many ways the anti-Irvin, yet I think Jerry saw that Ismail's speed had brought a new dimension to the team in '99, especially during the first 3 games of that season when he was paired with Irvin and team was playing perhaps the best football of anyone in the NFL. I think a part of him figured if some speed was good, more was better, and he probably had visions of having the fastest set of starting wide receivers in football on his ballclub enticing him heavily.

Another important factor that is usually forgotten in the Galloway trade analysis is the fact that the other major pursuer of his services that February was none other than Daniel Snyder, who liked the thought of pairing up the two highest rated receivers in the '95 draft (Michael Westbrook being the other) in Norv Turner's system. I recall where this also provided extra motivation for Jerry to make the deal.

Jerry also frequently emphasized that at the time he still thought Aikman and Smith had another SB run left in them (Emmit had just come off back-to-back 1300+yard seasons in Gailey's 2 years, including 1397 in '99) and all they needed was a legit #1 receiver. He had no idea that the 2000 season would claim both Aikman with the concussions, and Galloway in the 4th quarter of the season opener.

[DallasCowpoke111]

And for the UMPTEENTH time on this forum alone, I'll say that we could of gotten Shannon Sharpe that SAME year in FA, and prob had a player who was more productive and cost SO much less!!

[Tobal]

Most people I knew felt it was too much, but we took a wait and see attitude. Joey got hurt, Troy got hurt and that number one became a high draft pick.

The thinking was two #20+ picks for one of the most explosive wr's in the game. Ahh, well most boy fans talked themselves into thinking it might not be too bad.

The 3rd round pick for McKnight wasn't a bad pick. He hurt his knee in training camp though and was lost of the year, had he not gotten hurt, we might not have traded for Galloway.

[Padd]

on top of Aikman pushing for the deal, another trusted source for Jerry was Prme Time. Deion told Jerry the one guy in the league that he couldn't cover was Galloway. That put Jerry over the top I believe.

[jcblanco22]

Most people I knew felt it was too much, but we took a wait and see attitude. Joey got hurt, Troy got hurt and that number one became a high draft pick.

The thinking was two #20+ picks for one of the most explosive wr's in the game. Ahh, well most boy fans talked themselves into thinking it might not be too bad.

The 3rd round pick for McKnight wasn't a bad pick. He hurt his knee in training camp though and was lost of the year, had he not gotten hurt, we might not have traded for Galloway.

That's really a great point Tobal, and one I never particularly thought of. We did assume that after 2 straight playoff seasons, including an 8-8 campaign in '99 where we battled through multiple injuries at receiver to make the post-season, we just needed that one missing piece and as a result of the success we'd expected to have, that pick would've been in the mid-to-late 20s that following offseason. And you also mention something crucial that's real easy to gloss over in a hindsight analysis; at the time this was the most explosive receiver in the game and the fact is that his agent and Galloway himself both actually did a great job building up his perceived value with that holdout the year before.

McKnight had solid potential as a #3 in Chan's offense, heck, he did a very serviceable job the next year in that offensive nightmare of Jack Reilly's AFTER the knee surgery. Had Irvin and him not gotten hurt that year, we would've seen Irvin, Ismail and McKnight at the top 3 receivers, with a very respectable Ernie Mills (in Gailey's system) as a #4.

[5 Super Bowls]

I guess this post will reveal I'm a newbie..but I read somewhere cowboys gave up 2 1st round picks for Joey galloway a while ago. Is this true? was galloway..kinda like Moss back then or what?..I mean the deal sounds so stupid..can someone enlighten me?


Galloway was franchised so we had to give 2 1's to get him. It wasn't a horrible deal at the time, or so they said. The cowboys were so cap restricted that the number 1 picks would have been difficult to sign, or at least I remember hearing that. I thought it was a bad idea then, but then again I didn't know how good or bad he was at the time.

[Henson7]

thanks for the info guys..well what's done is done although it leaves one with a bitter taste ( just think Shawn Alexander, we probably would have passed on him anyway). Well this coming draft is so important and that's why we need to find out about Henson and JJ A.S.A.P. I say if both don't look good spend the #1 picks on a QB and RB ...think leinhart and Benson...and use FA to upgrade the D. how long can we go on without a proper QB and running back?..better get the foundations right then build from there.

[joseephuss]

Hey..welcome aboard "newbie"... :)

The idea Jerry had in mind was, he would bring in Galloway and have an offense that was similar to the Rams...it assumed Aikman would be healthy...

Galloway went down with a knee injury during the first game....and was lost for the season...Aikman retired before the next season...

Bad trade....especially when ya look at Alexander's rushing numbers every week...the Seahawks used one of the first rounders to select Alexander...ouch.

It was a bad deal in the sense that only a handful of players in the history of the NFL have ever been worth trading for two 1st round picks. I personally think that even if Irvin did not get hurt the prior season, Jerry would have tried to trade for Galloway.

Missing two 1st round picks hurt this team because there were several players they could have drafted to impact the team. I don't believe they would have drafted Shaun Alexander. Not saying they shouldn'thave if they were in that position, I just don't think they would have with Emmitt still on the team.

[Dale]

The situation was compounded by the fact that, despite our desperate need for a wideout, the receivers in the 2000 draft weren't considered that great. If memory serves, Sly Morris, who was drafted by Kansas City, was considered one of the top prospects that we could have gotten if we had stood pat in the first round and not given up the pick for Galloway.

As for missing out on Shaun Alexander, while it would have been nice to have him, we would have never taken him even if we kept that first round pick. With a dire need for a receiver, there is no way Jerry would have taken a guy that would sit on the bench behind Emmitt for a few years. Our moves in the late '90s and in '00 rarely took the future into consideration. They were all about trying to get Troy and Co. another ring.

[xpistofer]

at the time i was very excited about the trade - although i should have been more cautious. It was basically Keynesian economics: borrow from the future to pay for now.

The 'boys were at the tail end of a dynasty, and still had enough guns to make a run - they just needed that one missing piece, and galloway seemed to be that.

I remember that washington got into the mix, and it was rumored that galloway was going to washington - i was praying that jerry would just get the deal done.

he did, and i have regretted ever since the pickle juice game, but i dont fault jerry - he was aggressive. he gambled, and it just didnt pay off. sadly we missed out on one of the best running backs in the game - who we probably wouldnt have drafted anyway because we still had emmitt.

in hindsight, of course you wouldnt make that trade, but at the time with the information we had i thought it was a great trade. i thought it would result in another superbowl. ouch.

[MichaelWinicki]

And we gave "Joey" a $42 million dollar contract that included a $13 million dollar signing bonus...

Double OUCH!

[Kittymama]

Personally, I think it was another of Karl Rove's evil genius plots. ;)