Can't believe nobody's brought this up...

[Nav22]

In one of Mickey's recent articles, he brought up a point about Henson gaining incentives this year from playing time. I believe it said something like a $6 million bonus if he plays 15% of the snaps or something.

Mickey said something to the extent "don't be surprised if Tony Romo gets some snaps instead of Henson" because Henson playing less than 15% would save us 6 mil. That's a pretty big chunk of the salary cap.

Could this be one of the reasons why Parcells seems so determined to keep Henson on the sidelines?

[Portland Fanatic]

In one of Mickey's recent articles, he brought up a point about Henson gaining incentives this year from playing time. I believe it said something like a $6 million bonus if he plays 15% of the snaps or something.

Mickey said something to the extent "don't be surprised if Tony Romo gets some snaps instead of Henson" because Henson playing less than 15% would save us 6 mil. That's a pretty big chunk of the salary cap.

Could this be one of the reasons why Parcells seems so determined to keep Henson on the sidelines?

I hope not....

[jimmy40]

In one of Mickey's recent articles, he brought up a point about Henson gaining incentives this year from playing time. I believe it said something like a $6 million bonus if he plays 15% of the snaps or something.

Mickey said something to the extent "don't be surprised if Tony Romo gets some snaps instead of Henson" because Henson playing less than 15% would save us 6 mil. That's a pretty big chunk of the salary cap.

Could this be one of the reasons why Parcells seems so determined to keep Henson on the sidelines?Nope. Parcells may be an arsehole but he's not lying to you, he will play Henson when he thinks Henson is ready.

[Dale]

Eek.

So if Testaverde plays 80% of the snaps, he gets a $4 million incentive. If Henson plays 15%, he gets a $6 million incentive. We've gotta make damn sure both of those things don't happen, or we'll be in some trouble financially.

[Jimz31]

Eek.

So if Testaverde plays 80% of the snaps, he gets a $4 million incentive. If Henson plays 15%, he gets a $6 million incentive. We've gotta make damn sure both of those things don't happen, or we'll be in some trouble financially.

Should we start the "Romo" chant now? :D

[Eskimo]

Eek.

So if Testaverde plays 80% of the snaps, he gets a $4 million incentive. If Henson plays 15%, he gets a $6 million incentive. We've gotta make damn sure both of those things don't happen, or we'll be in some trouble financially.

I think with Testaverde, the deal was that he gets $3M if he plays 80% of the snaps AND we win 8 games. He may have also had a $1M bonus for making the Pro Bowl. It looks like neither of those events are going to happen.

I thought Henson would earn his incentives no matter what, and it was more along the lines of $3M. The contract was structured in such a way that so long as Henson became the starter in the first 3 years, he would void the last 3 or 4 years off of his deal - ie. it is going to happen sooner or later. It doesn't make a huge amount of difference when.

[Falcon]

My understanding is that Testervede has to play 80% of the snaps and the team acheive an 8-8 record or Testeverde make the Pro bowl.

The big deal about Henson is voided years. If the contract allows for similar escallations , incentives next year it is a moot point. If he is any good, those clauses eventually will come into play. It all depends on whether the incentives carry forward. If his agent is any good they will.

[MichaelWinicki]

My understanding is that Testervede has to play 80% of the snaps and the team acheive an 8-8 record or Testeverde make the Pro bowl.

The big deal about Henson is voided years. If the contract allows for similar escallations , incentives next year it is a moot point. If he is any good, those clauses eventually will come into play. It all depends on whether the incentives carry forward. If his agent is any good they will.


Nail on the head.

The purpose of the contract was to give him a little "better" contract that would allow him to get an additional $3 million worth of bonus money. And quite frankly the contract is written so that if he doesn't make it this year he almost has to hit the numbers one of the following years.

But yes the whole argument is a moot point.

[DallasCowpoke111]

Note to Nav22:

But yes the whole argument is a moot point.

Hence the reason "nobodys brought this up"!!

If you're gonna make a thread like this, you'd look a sight better if you did your homework prior to.

[MichaelWinicki]

Note to Nav22:



Hence the reason "nobodys brought this up"!!

If you're gonna make a thread like this, you'd look a sight better if you did your homework prior to.


You are correct sir!

By the way DC... the whole "Mr Winky" thing...

You see one day Fuzzy Lumpkins got peoed at me and called me "Mr Winky" in a thread... Sarge seen it and called me that for about a month. So it's not a gay thing at all... Not that there is anything wrong with gay things mind you.

[Eric_Boyer]

Note to Nav22:



Hence the reason "nobodys brought this up"!!

If you're gonna make a thread like this, you'd look a sight better if you did your homework prior to.
note to everybody else:

What a jerk.

[Hostile]

In one of Mickey's recent articles, he brought up a point about Henson gaining incentives this year from playing time. I believe it said something like a $6 million bonus if he plays 15% of the snaps or something.

Mickey said something to the extent "don't be surprised if Tony Romo gets some snaps instead of Henson" because Henson playing less than 15% would save us 6 mil. That's a pretty big chunk of the salary cap.

Could this be one of the reasons why Parcells seems so determined to keep Henson on the sidelines?
Henson's 15% snaps clause in his contract was not for a bonus it was about voiding the final 4 yars of his contract so a bigger one could be negotiated.

If Vinny wins 8 games and takes 80% of the snaps he gets a 3 million dollar bonus. The 8 wins might be the only saving grace for having to fork over 4 million in 1 season to an 80 year old QB.

[Nav22]

Henson's 15% snaps clause in his contract was not for a bonus it was about voiding the final 4 yars of his contract so a bigger one could be negotiated.

That's incorrect, at least according to Spagnola.

Here is what he wrote in the article I was talking about....
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"Did you remember that if Drew Henson plays 15 percent of the offensive snaps this year he receives a $3 million bonus? If snaps somewhat average out over 16 games, then that would mean he likely would collect if he played three full games. Just food for thought.

But then again, if Vinny Testaverde plays 80 percent of the snaps and the Cowboys win eight games, he is owed a $3 million bonus. Hmmm, if playoffs are out of the question, even with eight wins, and a business/cap decision needs to be made, can you say Tony Romo, 15 percent? Just being practical with $6 million of Jerry's money and $6 million of 2005 cap space."
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...I mistook the $6 mil of Jerry's cap money for Henson's potential bonus, which is $3 mil.

DallasCowpoke, you're an a$s. I brought this up because Mickey brought it up and I didn't see anyone talking about it here. And how is it a "moot point" just because he'll likely get the roster bonus at some point anyways?

If Parcells is only here for 1-2 more years at the most, then the 2005 cap is more important than that of later years. Maybe they'd prefer to stock up cap space for 2005 rather than later on. If you had 1 year to live and I offered you a million dollars, would you rather have the money now or in 9 months? Would you rather have the million now or 3 million in 11 months?

(By the way: I don't care what the haters are saying, Parcells is still a great coach. He's having a rough year, possibly his worst ever, but he's a winner. He'll turn this thing around before riding off into the sunset.)

I do find it a little odd that Henson hasn't gotten on the field for 1 snap this year, despite the fact that we've been blown out in 3 of our last 4 games.

Like Spagnola said, this is $6 million of 2005 cap space at stake. And isn't everyone assuming that we'll be more aggressive in Free Agency next year after this disappointing season? Losing $6 mil in '05 cap space for roster bonuses in a losing season would hurt that plan. So maybe the salary cap aspect is playing a role in the QB decisions.

Does anyone really find it completely impossible?

[Eskimo]

Like Spagnola said, this is $6 million of 2005 cap space at stake. And isn't everyone assuming that we'll be more aggressive in Free Agency next year after this disappointing season? Losing $6 mil in '05 cap space for roster bonuses in a losing season would hurt that plan. So maybe the salary cap aspect is playing a role in the QB decisions.

Does anyone really find it completely impossible?

VT's $3M isn't going to happen. We'd have to go 5-2 for him to make that bonus, or make that 5-1 after the Ravens trounce us on Sunday.

In terms of Henson's $3M bonus, it was written into the contract as basically guaranteed money. The reason it was written this way was because of the way Rookie Cap space was allotted, the Cowboys had no room to give him any bonus at all. We could only give him the rookie min and no signing bonus. To compensate, we made easily reached incentives that would act as a bonus so that he got paid like a low first-round pick in the end which is where he would have went in the draft.

If he does qualify for the bonus, I'm not sure how it would be accounted for. My guess is it would eat up any left over cap space from this year.

Personally, I would rather see what Henson has got this year than save some cap space for next year alone (we're going to pay Henson the money sooner or later). If he looks as lost as Hutch, then we may have to think about bringing in a vet next offseason (?Drew Brees) or spend on of our first on one of the highly ranked QBs.

[blindzebra]

Vinny's money comes off of THIS year's cap, Henson's would be next year. That comes from Adam our cap expert.

[Eskimo]

Vinny's money comes off of THIS year's cap, Henson's would be next year. That comes from Adam our cap expert.

It is a bit of an artificial distinction these days with LTBE incentives. Any money left over this year gets carried over to next year's cap - the old Iggles trick.