Hey . . . if it works for Roy . . .

[Midswat]

Roy Williams is one of the many Cowboys defenders that hasn't done jack s*** this year . . .

But God forbid you criticize him, because his legions of fans blinded by loyalty will throw out the "he's playing out of position" excuse.

Well . . . if that absolves Roy Lee from guilt . . .

Then it also absolves Marcellus Wiley.

Hey . . . Wiley has been a LDE his whole career.

Those tyrants in Dallas have him playing RDE this year.

We simply can not judge him yet.

[Portland Fanatic]

Roy Williams is one of the many Cowboys defenders that hasn't done jack s*** this year . . .

But God forbid you criticize him, because his legions of fans blinded by loyalty will throw out the "he's playing out of position" excuse.

Well . . . if that absolves Roy Lee from guilt . . .

Then it also absolves Marcellus Wiley.

Hey . . . Wiley has been a LDE his whole career.

Those tyrants in Dallas have him playing RDE this year.

We simply can not judge him yet.

Difference...Roy has already shown us what he is capable of...Wiley has done nothing, but watch the clock and collect his pay check.

[Waffle]

Roy Williams is one of the many Cowboys defenders that hasn't done jack s*** this year . . .

But God forbid you criticize him, because his legions of fans blinded by loyalty will throw out the "he's playing out of position" excuse.

Well . . . if that absolves Roy Lee from guilt . . .

Then it also absolves Marcellus Wiley.

Hey . . . Wiley has been a LDE his whole career.

Those tyrants in Dallas have him playing RDE this year.

We simply can not judge him yet.Good point. However, if Roy has 2-3 seasons of play like Wiley's had, then I think your argument would have more merit. Wiley played in HIS position in SD, but his play declined for two years straight. Roy's got a ways to go, in my opinion, before he could be compared to Wiley.

With that being said, I think Roy needs to get his camcorder out on Sunday, isolate Ed Reed on video, and then take some notes!!! :D

[DandyDon]

Roy Williams is one of the many Cowboys defenders that hasn't done jack s*** this year . . .

But God forbid you criticize him, because his legions of fans blinded by loyalty will throw out the "he's playing out of position" excuse.

Well . . . if that absolves Roy Lee from guilt . . .

Then it also absolves Marcellus Wiley.

Hey . . . Wiley has been a LDE his whole career.

Those tyrants in Dallas have him playing RDE this year.

We simply can not judge him yet.

There may be something to the out of position thing. Isn't it possible that some underlying problems why things aren't working out that you aren't aware of? I dunno.....it's possible.

[AJM1613]

Difference...Roy has already shown us what he is capable of...Wiley has done nothing, but watch the clock and collect his pay check.

Wiley had 23.5 total sacks in 2000 and 2001.

[tyke1doe]

During Roy's first year in the league, I don't recall a single time when he hit somebody they didn't go backwards. Totally unbelieveable.

But now, I see him taking bad angles and missing tackles.

My only conclusion would be that he is seriously playing out of position or the hits are taking their toll on him.

I'd like to see what Roy can do with talent around him. But I think we saw a glimpse of that in the pro bowl when some receiver (I can't remember his name) was upset because Roy was playing the game as if it was ... serious. :rolleyes:

[Everlastingxxx]

Roy Williams is one of the many Cowboys defenders that hasn't done jack s*** this year . . .

Roy is the only guy on this Defense that plays with intense passion. With this secondary himself couldn't play safety without a blown coverage.

How the hell someone could be against Roy is beyond me. Do insane clinic patients have accent to Cowboyszone.com?

[DandyDon]

During Roy's first year in the league, I don't recall a single time when he hit somebody they didn't go backwards. Totally unbelieveable.

But now, I see him taking bad angles and missing tackles.

My only conclusion would be that he is seriously playing out of position or the hits are taking their toll on him.

I'd like to see what Roy can do with talent around him. But I think we saw a glimpse of that in the pro bowl when some receiver (I can't remember his name) was upset because Roy was playing the game as if it was ... serious. :rolleyes:

I agree, good post.

[DallasCowpoke111]

Going by that theory mid, it seems Tony Dixon is "playing out of position" also.

I'm sure he'll do much better next year, when he's flat on his back, changing oil and Jiffy Lube.

[Yeagermeister]

Roy is the only guy on this Defense that plays with intense passion. With this secondary himself couldn't play safety without a blown coverage.

How the hell someone could be against Roy is beyond me. Do insane clinic patients have accent to Cowboyszone.com?

Are you trying to say can't play FS?http://i.imdb.com/Photos/HH/0743304/th-chch.jpg

[JackMagist]

Just one hole in your theory Middie...well ok more than one but one in particular. Wiley has been playing back on the Right for several weeks now and he still hasn't done diddley.

[Yakuza Rich]

There’s a big difference between what Roy is having to do out there and what Wiley is doing out there.

Roy has to help out on coverage with the rookie CB’s AND help out with Tony Dixon’s coverage gaffe’s AND help stop the run because the play of guys, such as Wiley, is so bad that teams can run at us with ease.

Watch opposing teams. Most of their big runs are right at Wiley.

All Wiley has to do is two things, play against the run and rush the passer. He hasn’t done either of them and hasn’t even had one “okay” game, yet. At least Roy looked great against the Skins and the Lions and has looked pretty decent against others.

He got burnt on a coverage gaffe against the Eagles, but that was in his attempt to help out Dixon who was getting picked apart by the Eagles before that.

Comparing Roy to Wiley in any fashion is blatantly ridiculous.

Rich………….

[Zman5]

Going by that theory mid, it seems Tony Dixon is "playing out of position" also.

I'm sure he'll do much better next year, when he's flat on his back, changing oil and Jiffy Lube.


Don't you mean when he has to ask "..Do you want the combo meal sir?"

[Everlastingxxx]

Comparing Roy to Wiley in any fashion is blatantly ridiculous.

Rich, the last 3 days on this message board has been ridiculous.

[Midswat]

Roy is the only guy on this Defense that plays with intense passion.

Cool . . .

But how do you measure that "intense passion"?

Because you certainly can't measure it in forced fumbles, fumble recoveries, interceptions, tackles for loss, pass deflections, or interceptions.

And was that the "intense passion" we saw on display when Owens burned Roy and got a touchdown, then mocked us on the little star as Roy Williams turned his back and walked away?

If it wasn't then . . . then it had to be when Roy whiffed on TO during TO's first touchdown catch.

Hopefully Kelly Rowland isn't being subjected to the same "intense passion" in the bedroom as we are seeing on the football field.

Otherwise . . . we might see Roy doing a few Lavitra commercials . . .



How the hell someone could be against Roy is beyond me. Do insane clinic patients have accent to Cowboyszone.com?

I can't answer whether or not insane clinic patients have "accent" to Cowboyszone.com. Better PM a mod to answer that.

However . . . in reference to how anyone can criticize Roy: It's simple . . . take the blue and silver glasses off . . . stop being a homer . . . and realize ROY WILLIAMS HAS ZERO INTERCEPTIONS, ZERO FORCED FUMBLES, ZERO FUMBLE RECOVERIES, ZERO SACKS, ZERO PASS DEFLECTIONS, AND HAS BEEN OUTPERFORMED BY TONY DIXON THIS SEASON.

But hey . . . at least he's doing it "passionately".

[Waffle]

With that being said, I think Roy needs to get his camcorder out on Sunday, isolate Ed Reed on video, and then take some notes!!! :D
Am I allowed to quote myself??? :)

[Yeagermeister]

Am I allowed to quote myself??? :)
Hey we don't need to know about that :eek:

[Midswat]

I don't want to hear anyone criticize Eddie George anymore.

He plays with intense passion!!!

[wick]

Roy Williams attacks the buffet with intense passion.

[Everlastingxxx]

But how do you measure that "intense passion"?

Because you certainly can't measure it in forced fumbles, fumble recoveries, interceptions, tackles for loss, pass deflections, or interceptions.

I just go by what my eyes see. And i see a player that is flying to the ball, trying his best to make something good happen. This season hasn't been his best, but that goes also for the entire Cowboy Defense. Last time i checked this is a team sport not badminton.


If it wasn't then . . . then it had to be when Roy whiffed on TO during TO's first touchdown catch.

Roy is trying to do too much. I guess you have never worked with a new employee and have to help them do their job plus yours? Before you know it you are having trouble just doing your job. Common sense man. That plus Roy's strengths are not in deep coverage. We all knew that before this season.


Hopefully Kelly Rowland isn't being subjected to the same "intense passion" in the bedroom as we are seeing on the football field.

Otherwise . . . we might see Roy doing a few Lavitra commercials . . .

Weak. The fact you even knew her name is interesting. Jealous?


take the blue and silver glasses off . . . stop being a homer . . . and realize [B]ROY WILLIAMS HAS ZERO INTERCEPTIONS, ZERO FORCED FUMBLES, ZERO FUMBLE RECOVERIES, ZERO SACKS, ZERO PASS DEFLECTIONS,

Haha, love it. Never been accused of wearing blue and silver glasses before. I would rather keep them on than act like i have a corn cob up my a$$.

I understand that this is football and not life and death and that Roy is a pretty good player despite the horrible stats the COWBOYS (note: team sport) have this season (note: only 1 season).


ROY HAS BEEN OUTPERFORMED BY TONY DIXON THIS SEASON

Wow. Whatever crediablity you had is gone after that remark!

FYI, Roy leads Dawkins and Taylor in Tackles.

[Maikeru-sama]

I posted this on another board and will just put it here too...

Almost in defiance of this sat Cowboys receiver Keyshawn Johnson. Slumped deep in his locker, his forehead practically glued to his hand, his frustration etched on his face, Johnson did what the offensive and defensive captains and the newly anointed "face of the Cowboys" Roy Williams, did not. He tried to answer the unanswerable questions that are stalking this struggling team.

http://www.dfw.com/mld/dfw/sports/football/nfl/dallas_cowboys/10203256.htm

I dont know about some of you, I am starting to get sick of Roy Williams in general. I remember when he first arrived, he was self confident and displayed leadership qualities. He even told Emmitt to watch what he says and backed that talk up.

Now, he seems to have mellowed out. An Eagles fan posted an ESPN Q&A he did recently and when asked if he would retaliate if Owens were to disrespect the star, he said he would not do anything because they were friends.

The "infamous" note left he left in the lockeroom last week...

My attitude towards him in general is really starting to change...

"The face of the Cowboys"....

I'll take Dat Nguyen thank you very much!!!

- Mike G.

[Maikeru-sama]

Yeah.....I did mean what I said.

Im kind of tired of hearing about how good of friends he is with Portis and Owens and how he talks to them on the phone, just before the games.

Most of the Cowboys fans that attended the game Monday, like myself, were really embarrased that nobody even got in Owens face or just show some sign of pride or at least some attempt to show Owens that he doesn't disrespect Landry's house.

Hell, when the Eagles players formed a huddle on the Star on the 50 yard line just before kickoff, Jerry Jones showed more guts and defiance by having security get them off the star.


http://www.dallascowboyz.com/avatars/roy_owens.jpg

Roy Williams just standing there....where's George Teague when you need him....

- Mike G.

[Everlastingxxx]

Hell, when the Eagles players formed a huddle on the Star on the 50 yard line just before kickoff, Jerry Jones showed more guts and defiance by having security get them off the star.


When Owens stood on the little star...um this was the second time he did that, he did that a few years ago too. Now how in the hell do you try to enforce players of the other team not to stand on parts of the endzone and field?

You kidding me?

This isn't 5th grade.

If we didn't want him standing in the endzone, we should have stopped him from scoring. If Jerry or "you fans" don't want other players standing on parts of the field, then take the damn logos off.

I was upset for 10 seconds but man i'm over it. You guys do the same. Not life and death. The star will be ok.

Owens did it to get under your skin, and obviously it worked.

[Fletch]

Cool . . .

But how do you measure that "intense passion"?

Because you certainly can't measure it in forced fumbles, fumble recoveries, interceptions, tackles for loss, pass deflections, or interceptions.

And was that the "intense passion" we saw on display when Owens burned Roy and got a touchdown, then mocked us on the little star as Roy Williams turned his back and walked away?

If it wasn't then . . . then it had to be when Roy whiffed on TO during TO's first touchdown catch.

Hopefully Kelly Rowland isn't being subjected to the same "intense passion" in the bedroom as we are seeing on the football field.

Otherwise . . . we might see Roy doing a few Lavitra commercials . . .





I can't answer whether or not insane clinic patients have "accent" to Cowboyszone.com. Better PM a mod to answer that.

However . . . in reference to how anyone can criticize Roy: It's simple . . . take the blue and silver glasses off . . . stop being a homer . . . and realize ROY WILLIAMS HAS ZERO INTERCEPTIONS, ZERO FORCED FUMBLES, ZERO FUMBLE RECOVERIES, ZERO SACKS, ZERO PASS DEFLECTIONS, AND HAS BEEN OUTPERFORMED BY TONY DIXON THIS SEASON.

But hey . . . at least he's doing it "passionately".

Midswat, advocate of Jean-Jacques Taylor. :rolleyes:

[Maikeru-sama]

When Owens stood on the little star...um this was the second time he did that, he did that a few years ago too. Now how in the hell do you try to enforce players of the other team not to stand on parts of the endzone and field?

You kidding me?

This isn't 5th grade.

If we didn't want him standing in the endzone, we should have stopped him from scoring. If Jerry or "you fans" don't want other players standing on parts of the field, then take the damn logos off.

I was upset for 10 seconds but man i'm over it. You guys do the same. Not life and death. The star will be ok.

Owens did it to get under your skin, and obviously it worked.

I was at the game back in 2000 when Owens first came out of the closet and just showed how classless he is and I was ironically at the game Monday Night.

It p*ssed me off when he did it then and it p*ssed me off when he did right in Roy Williams' face.

That's our house and being from Dallas, that star is the very identity of the city and you cannot go anywhere around town without seeing it.

If you cant understand that, then I dont know what to say......

As I said about he article's mention of Roy Williams being the face of the Cowboys...

I'll take Dat Nguyen, than you very much!!!

George Teague, where art thou...

http://www.dallascowboyz.com/avatars/george_teague.jpg



- Mike G.

[Yakuza Rich]

If it wasn't then . . . then it had to be when Roy whiffed on TO during TO's first touchdown catch.

That wasn't Roy. Nate Jones was on coverage (Frazier got hurt and the Eagles targeted Jones immediately) and then both Jones and Dixon whiffed on the tackles.

I'm surprised that the writers and many posters are so lax on Dixon's play, it was in a spectrum of awful that I can't comprehend.

Rich......................

[Yeagermeister]

That wasn't Roy. Nate Jones was on coverage (Frazier got hurt and the Eagles targeted Jones immediately) and then both Jones and Dixon whiffed on the tackles.

I'm surprised that the writers and many posters are so lax on Dixon's play, it was in a spectrum of awful that I can't comprehend.

Rich......................
They didn't whiff....Dixon hit Jones and took them both out of the play

[joshlitt]

When Owens stood on the little star...um this was the second time he did that, he did that a few years ago too. Now how in the hell do you try to enforce players of the other team not to stand on parts of the endzone and field?

You kidding me?

This isn't 5th grade.

If we didn't want him standing in the endzone, we should have stopped him from scoring. If Jerry or "you fans" don't want other players standing on parts of the field, then take the damn logos off.

I was upset for 10 seconds but man i'm over it. You guys do the same. Not life and death. The star will be ok.

Owens did it to get under your skin, and obviously it worked.

You must not have been born in Texas, or your parents or school didn't teach you any Texas Pride! You must not realize that emblem on the side of our players heads is not some random animal that a team picked! Maybe you haven't noticed how the Texas State Flag, that same Flag that flies higher than any other State and at the same height as the US flag only has one Star!

We had this same topic going on at another forum and I will say the exact same thing! The Star, The Lone Star, The Lone Star on the Texas State Flag means more to me as a Texan than most people will ever know! It must not mean anything to you that we are different than every other State! 183 men standing in a church facing thousands of Mexican nationals fighting for freedom must mean nothing to you.
Sam Houston capturing Santa Ana at San Jacinto must mean nothing to you.
Juneteenth and Texas Independence Day must mean nothing to you.
Our Capitol being the only one taller than the Capitol in DC must mean nothing to you.
The only State that could divide our State into Five States if we wanted must mean nothing to you.

"Honor the Texas flag; I pledge allegiance to thee, Texas, one and indivisible."
MUST MEAN NOTHING TO YOU!

The Star on my College ring must mean nothing to you! The Star in the floor of the rotunda in the Texas Capitol must mean nothing to you!
The 8,282 Five Pointed Stars on the iron fence around the Capitol must mean nothing to you!

The 8th largest economy in the world, three times the size of the Russian economy must mean nothing to you! The United States has the world's largest GNP, $9.6 trillion, followed by Japan, Germany, the United Kingdom, France, Italy, China and (if it were a nation) Texas.

You can't be a real Texan, you had to have moved here! You didn't take Texas History. You can't be a real Texan because you don't have the Texan Pride!

[Midswat]

That wasn't Roy. Nate Jones was on coverage (Frazier got hurt and the Eagles targeted Jones immediately) and then both Jones and Dixon whiffed on the tackles.

I'm surprised that the writers and many posters are so lax on Dixon's play, it was in a spectrum of awful that I can't comprehend.

Rich......................


Dixon hit Jones, and they both went down.

Immediately after that . . . Roy whiffed the tackle.

I'm sure someone has a video highlight that shows it.

I remember specifically because I was so pissed that TO was able to go accross the middle like that, virtually untouched.

[Midswat]

FYI, Roy leads Dawkins and Taylor in Tackles.


Yeah . . . I'm always impressed when a member of the secondary has a high number of tackles. :rolleyes:

Does the Sacred Roy lead them in interceptions? Sacks? Forced fumbles? Fumble recoveries? Pass deflections?

What?

No?

Oh . . . who cares about that . . .

Who needs game changing plays when you've got "intense passion"!!!

GO COWBOYS!!!!!

[Everlastingxxx]

You can't be a real Texan, you had to have moved here! You didn't take Texas History. You can't be a real Texan because you don't have the Texan Pride!

Sorry i don't worship a five point picture of a star. But i do have pride for what it stands for. But to compare Sam Houston to a football game is showing you have your priorities mixed up!

You see, even after Owens did all these "horrible" things to us, we are still a state, no one died, no earthquake happened, your family is still ok right?

If the Star is to be worshipped, why the hell do we have it painted on fake plastic grass for others to walk on? Then take it off.

Now with the NFL, you want our players who most were not even born in Texas to have Texas pride! This is entertainment, if you want to see others stand up for Texas...then rent the movie "The Alamo".

[diehard2294]

Roy is the only guy on this Defense that plays with intense passion. With this secondary himself couldn't play safety without a blown coverage.

How the hell someone could be against Roy is beyond me. Do insane clinic patients have accent to Cowboyszone.com?true Roy does play with passion, but when things are going bad he also hangs his head with the rest of them. He has had several blown coverages this year. You can also see he is a frustrated football player, because he does know what people expect from him. It is obvious he cant carry this defense, he needs help, but I hate hearing the argument that he isn't supposed to be a cover guy. Tell me if you had the chance to trade shoes with him, would you want to be known as a punishing safety who cant cover a wheel chair patient. Not me! I dont say this because I dont like him, I was exited when they drafted him, but he has only been the playmaker his rookie year.

[Midswat]

I was exited when they drafted him, but he has only been the playmaker his rookie year.


On the nose.

I really like the guy.

He's my favorite Cowboy.

But that doesn't absolve him from his fair share of blame.

He was electric his rookie year.

Last year was a bit of a let down.

This year has been horrible.

And I refuse to buy the "he's out of position" BS.

It's not like he's lining up as an offensive tackle for Crissakes . . .

[joshlitt]

Sorry i don't worship a five point picture of a star. But i do have pride for what it stands for. But to compare Sam Houston to a football game is showing you have your priorities mixed up!

You see, even after Owens did all these "horrible" things to us, we are still a state, no one died, no earthquake happened, your family is still ok right?

If the Star is to be worshipped, why the hell do we have it painted on fake plastic grass for others to walk on? Then take it off.

Now with the NFL, you want our players who most were not even born in Texas to have Texas pride! This is entertainment, if you want to see others stand up for Texas...then rent the movie "The Alamo".

Hmmm, George Teague had Pride For His Team! The Dallas Cowboys! The Team That Represents That Star! That Star That Represents Texas! Where Was He Born? Lansing, Michigan!

Never did answer where you were born though.......

Like I said to a True Texan, the Star Means Alot! Even if those guys aren't born in Texas doesn't mean they can stand up for their team......Emmitt wasn't born in Texas either but he didn't like some punk arse WR disrespecting his Star or Team! Talk to Bob Lilly or Randy White about pride and see what they have to say!

[diehard2294]

On the nose.

I really like the guy.

He's my favorite Cowboy.

But that doesn't absolve him from his fair share of blame.

He was electric his rookie year.

Last year was a bit of a let down.

This year has been horrible.

And I refuse to buy the "he's out of position" BS.

It's not like he's lining up as an offensive tackle for Crissakes . . .I just think he has his head up his arse right now, he is scrambling to help others, trying to be a leader, and I think he is the type of player who just leads by example. Their are times where I think people think the big hit from him is great! sure it is, but maybe if he hawks the ball or jumps the route quicker it is a int! I like that much better then the hit. :p

[Everlastingxxx]

This year has been horrible.

And I refuse to buy the "he's out of position" BS.

It's not like he's lining up as an offensive tackle for Crissakes . . .

Ok, but the ENTIRE Cowboys defense has been horrible. Name me ONE defensive player who is having a great season? It would be different if the Cowboys were doing great on Defense but Roy had no stats. But this Cowboys defense as a whole is horrible. Roy has the talent. The entire league knows that.

[Maikeru-sama]

Josh, if my sig line would allow it, I would put your first response in my signature...

Brilliant :D

- Mike G.

[Everlastingxxx]

Hmmm, George Teague had Pride For His Team! The Dallas Cowboys! The Team That Represents That Star! That Star That Represents Texas! Where Was He Born? Lansing, Michigan!

Never did answer where you were born though.......

Like I said to a True Texan, the Star Means Alot! Even if those guys aren't born in Texas doesn't mean they can stand up for their team......Emmitt wasn't born in Texas either but he didn't like some punk arse WR disrespecting his Star or Team! Talk to Bob Lilly or Randy White about pride and see what they have to say!

To compare Owens standing on the little star in the ENDZONE and the giant star in the middle of the field are two totally different things. Also, the Star represents the Cowboys logo. I am sure Teague was thinking team pride, not "remember the alamo!" lol.

My location is next to that word under my name that says "location" :p

[joshlitt]

To compare Owens standing on the little star in the ENDZONE and the giant star in the middle of the field are two totally different things. Also, the Star represents the Cowboys logo. I am sure Teague was thinking team pride, not "remember the alamo!" lol.

My location is next to that word under my name that says "location" :p

Location and Born are two totally different things!

[Everlastingxxx]

Location and Born are two totally different things!

Haha, yes born in Texas. I have lots of pride in Texas. But life is too short to get my underwear in a knot over something this dumb.

[joshlitt]

Haha, yes born in Texas. I have lots of pride in Texas. But life is too short to get my underwear in a knot over something this dumb.

So as a player, you wouldn't have enough pride to push his arse off that star? Texas Pride or Team Pride, I wouldn't give a shyt?

Sure you were born in Texas? That's kind of Carpertbagger like to not get pissed? :p

[tyke1doe]

I can't believe fans are upset because Roy Williams didn't defend the "star" in the endzone. :confused:

That's like a boxing match where a guy has just beat you silly in the ring and then you sucker punch him after he raises his arms in victory.

And it really would have made Roy look silly. He can only plant a solid hit when the guy is standing defenseless in the endzone.

Children.

[junk]

I can't believe fans are upset because Roy Williams didn't defend the "star" in the endzone. :confused:

That's like a boxing match where a guy has just beat you silly in the ring and then you sucker punch him after he raises his arms in victory.

And it really would have made Roy look silly. He can only plant a solid hit when the guy is standing defenseless in the endzone.

Children.

:D Where is your Texas pride? Remember the alamo.

[joshlitt]

I can't believe fans are upset because Roy Williams didn't defend the "star" in the endzone. :confused:

That's like a boxing match where a guy has just beat you silly in the ring and then you sucker punch him after he raises his arms in victory.

And it really would have made Roy look silly. He can only plant a solid hit when the guy is standing defenseless in the endzone.

Children.

Did Teague look silly?

[Everlastingxxx]

So as a player, you wouldn't have enough pride to push his arse off that star? Texas Pride or Team Pride, I wouldn't give a shyt?

First of all, i don't think the Cowboys even noticed he did that. I mean you just got burned, why the hell watch the guys celebration?

That's kind of Carpertbagger like to not get pissed? :p

Carpetbaa...what the hell?

[joshlitt]

Carpetbaa...what the hell?

Carpertbagger: an outsider who seeks power or success presumptuously; "after the Civil War the carpetbaggers from the north tried to take over the south"

[Everlastingxxx]

Carpertbagger: an outsider who seeks power or success presumptuously; "after the Civil War the carpetbaggers from the north tried to take over the south"

Yea i got pissed at first, but more out of team pride, not because i was thinking of Davy Crockett.