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iceberg
10-24-2008, 11:07 AM
Editor's Note: Ruben Navarrette Jr. is a nationally syndicated columnist and a member of the editorial board of the San Diego Union-Tribune. Read his column here (http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/op-ed/navarrette/index.html).
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Ruben Navarrette says liberal attacks on Sarah Palin and Joe Wurzelbacher are unfair.

SAN DIEGO, California (CNN) -- I thought liberals were supposed to be good-hearted, open-minded and non-judgmental.

Tell that to the angry Left's favorite piñata, Sarah Palin. As far as liberals are concerned, Palin can do no right just as Barack Obama and Joe Biden can do no wrong. In fact, Biden is catching more passes than an NFL wide receiver.

As Palin herself pointed out in a recent CNN interview, imagine if she had been the one to imply that electing Obama would invite calamity. Biden does it, and the media shrug.

I also thought the Democratic Party was supposed to go to bat for the little guy, the everyday Joe the Plumber.

Tell that to Joe Wurzelbacher, the Ohio resident who got his 15 minutes -- and 40 lashes -- because he dared question Obama about his tax plan. Obama insists that the plan would raise taxes (http://topics.cnn.com/topics/Taxes) only on those Americans earning more than $250,000 per year. It was then Obama made his clumsy "spread the wealth" comment.

What was Joe thinking: that we live in a democracy where everyday Americans who pay the salaries of elected officials can dare question their policies? That just isn't done.

To prove it, the elites who run the Democratic Party -- along with their surrogates in the media and organized labor -- went after the plumber.

We now know that Samuel Joe Wurzelbacher owes back taxes, doesn't have a plumbing license (he told the Associated Press he doesn't need one because he works for someone else's company), and may not be registered to vote.

Commenting on a CNN.com story, one condescending reader wrote that Joe the Plumber should pipe down and "get back in my bathroom and unclog the toilet."

Even Biden (http://topics.cnn.com/topics/Joseph_Biden) and Obama got in a few licks. Biden quipped to Jay Leno that Democrats wanted to take care of "Joe-the-real-plumber-with-a-license," and Obama sarcastically asked supporters, "how many plumbers do you know making $250,000 a year?" The implication being that Joe the Plumber isn't who he pretends to be.

What worries me is that the Democrats aren't what they pretend to be.

Obama supporters like to talk about how the Democratic presidential nominee has lived the American Dream. So why is it to so hard for them to conceive of a situation where someone dreams of earning more money a few years from now than they earn today. Has Barack Obama consumed all the social mobility this country has to offer, so there isn't any left for the rest of us?

Now, the Obama-Biden boosters have refocused their attention on their earlier irritant, Sarah Palin.

The latest media template is that the vice presidential nominee is a drag on the GOP ticket. Pundits detect a backlash, not just among Democrats who love to hate Sarah Palin (http://topics.cnn.com/topics/Sarah_Palin) but also among women, independents and seniors.

They cite polls showing Palin with an unfavorable rating of 50 percent.

So what? We're in the post-Clinton, post-Bush era of polarization where any politician with a pulse -- Sorry, Joe Biden -- will be loved by half the country and hated by the other half.

It's surreal. Before McCain put Palin on the ticket, he was getting 200 people at campaign rallies, and now, when he appears when Palin, he gets 20,000.

Yes, definitely a drag. iReport.com: Rock star welcome for Palin in Ohio (http://www.ireport.com/docs/DOC-122626)
McCain oversold it when he said Palin was the most qualified vice presidential candidate in recent history. Better than Dick Cheney? Could she be worse?

Obama might have paid Biden the same compliment if his running mate hadn't already told supporters that Hillary Clinton would have been a better choice.

Then there is the faux-scandal that the Republican National Committee shelled out $150,000 in the past several weeks on Palin and her family for campaign wardrobe, accessories, makeup, etc.

Many Americans don't see why it's a story. Fellow hockey mom Page Growney of New Canaan, Conn., asked The Associated Press, "What did you want to see her in, a turtleneck from L.L. Bean?"

Still, we're told, this tempest in a Gucci bag has some Republicans worrying that shopping sprees at Neiman Marcus and Saks Fifth Avenue might undermine Palin's everywoman image. To think, just last month, the criticism was that Sarah the Moose Hunter wasn't sufficiently sophisticated or glamorous. Now her wardrobe signals the hockey mom is high-maintenance.

Just how many more caricatures -- some of them contradictory -- can we expect the left to throw at Sarah Palin before time runs out on this election?
The opinions expressed in this commentary are solely those of Ruben Navarrette Jr.

ABQCOWBOY
10-24-2008, 11:31 AM
Sarah Palin will have to live with it. Politics, especially in Washington, are very dirty indeed.

Unfortunatly, you can't tap out on the Media. You have to stick it.

iceberg
10-24-2008, 11:37 AM
Sarah Palin will have to live with it. Politics, especially in Washington, are very dirty indeed.

Unfortunatly, you can't tap out on the Media. You have to stick it.

no, i agree. it's sad that's what it's come to, though. people are so afraid of things they do not agree with they tend to tear it down vs work to understand.

sucks.

ABQCOWBOY
10-24-2008, 11:42 AM
no, i agree. it's sad that's what it's come to, though. people are so afraid of things they do not agree with they tend to tear it down vs work to understand.

sucks.

It does.

CanadianCowboysFan
10-24-2008, 12:04 PM
no, i agree. it's sad that's what it's come to, though. people are so afraid of things they do not agree with they tend to tear it down vs work to understand.

sucks.

you make out like that is a new phenomenon

ConcordCowboy
10-24-2008, 12:06 PM
you make out like that is a new phenomenon

You're from Canada!

What the frick do you know.

There...that's out of the way.

:p:

MilesAustinforMVP
10-24-2008, 12:09 PM
Uncle! Uncle!

Big Dakota
10-24-2008, 12:33 PM
She won't have to take this abuse much longer.

iceberg
10-24-2008, 12:37 PM
you make out like that is a new phenomenon

You're from Canada!

What the frick do you know.

There...that's out of the way.

:p:

i knew i could count on you both to dismiss it. :)

iceberg
10-24-2008, 12:39 PM
She won't have to take this abuse much longer.

wanna bet? :) she'll be back, i'm sure.

Big Dakota
10-24-2008, 12:50 PM
wanna bet? :) she'll be back, i'm sure.

In a state with so few voters and her popularity she'll have a great shot at Congress if she wants. She'll have to run in the next midterm if she wants to get to Washington ASAP. But i'm willing to bet it's no cake walk. She seems to have to folks up there that have it in for her.

iceberg
10-24-2008, 12:57 PM
In a state with so few voters and her popularity she'll have a great shot at Congress if she wants. She'll have to run in the next midterm if she wants to get to Washington ASAP. But i'm willing to bet it's no cake walk. She seems to have to folks up there that have it in for her.

no, it will be a rough ride for her at this point. instead of "the left" trying to understand, they just attacked. *anyone new* coming out now would just be more or less chum in shark infested waters.

we'll see how she fares. if she is what the repubs hope, she'll be back and start on the path as you say, in congress. she's been torn up pretty bad and we'll have to see how she reacts/handles it.

bbgun
10-24-2008, 12:57 PM
liberals unfair to palin?

Is the sun hot?
Do dogs bite?
Does cbz enjoy the early bird special at Denny's?

silverbear
10-24-2008, 02:34 PM
Hey, Palin came out of the gate playing the role of attack dog, so I have no problems with the other side going after her...

If she wants to play rough, let her suffer the consequences of her actions... if she wants to be the assassin with the twinkly smile, then she's fair game...

Except for the bit about her pregnant daughter... even Obama said that should never have happened...

Big Dakota
10-24-2008, 02:38 PM
Hey, Palin came out of the gate playing the role of attack dog, so I have no problems with the other side going after her...

If she wants to play rough, let her suffer the consequences of her actions... if she wants to be the assassin with the twinkly smile, then she's fair game...

Except for the bit about her pregnant daughter... even Obama said that should never have happened...


Pretty much how it goes. Ask Michele Bachmann.

ConcordCowboy
10-24-2008, 02:48 PM
Hey, Palin came out of the gate playing the role of attack dog, so I have no problems with the other side going after her...

If she wants to play rough, let her suffer the consequences of her actions... if she wants to be the assassin with the twinkly smile, then she's fair game...

Except for the bit about her pregnant daughter... even Obama said that should never have happened...

Exactly...cry me a river.

iceberg
10-24-2008, 02:52 PM
Hey, Palin came out of the gate playing the role of attack dog, so I have no problems with the other side going after her...

If she wants to play rough, let her suffer the consequences of her actions... if she wants to be the assassin with the twinkly smile, then she's fair game...

Except for the bit about her pregnant daughter... even Obama said that should never have happened...

from my recollection, she didn't say much of anything for a week or so till the convention. by then, how much attacking had been done to her? and from what i've seen, it wouldn't have mattered. the left would have gone after ghandi if he were on the repub ticket.

BrAinPaiNt
10-24-2008, 02:57 PM
http://www.podcastingnews.com/content/wp-content/uploads/2007/10/leave-britney-alone-guy.jpg

Leave Sarah Alone,
Quit Picking on her
It's Not Fair

iceberg
10-24-2008, 02:59 PM
http://www.podcastingnews.com/content/wp-content/uploads/2007/10/leave-britney-alone-guy.jpg

Leave Sarah Alone,
Quit Picking on her
It's Not Fair

'eh, the point isn't "don't pick on her" but the consistency of which they do it. lie if you have to, it just doesn't matter.

BrAinPaiNt
10-24-2008, 03:02 PM
'eh, the point isn't "don't pick on her" but the consistency of which they do it. lie if you have to, it just doesn't matter.

http://www.podcastingnews.com/content/wp-content/uploads/2007/10/leave-britney-alone-guy.jpg

Quit it, It's not Fair
Clinton and W would never do something like this
Quick someone call a wha----mbulance

masomenos
10-24-2008, 03:03 PM
In fact, Biden is catching more passes than an NFL wide receiver.

He's certainly catching more passes that Terrell Owens has been.

ZING!

iceberg
10-24-2008, 03:04 PM
http://www.podcastingnews.com/content/wp-content/uploads/2007/10/leave-britney-alone-guy.jpg

Quit it, It's not Fair
Clinton and W would never do something like this
Quick someone call a wha----mbulance

k. done for awhile. thanks.

masomenos
10-24-2008, 03:04 PM
http://www.podcastingnews.com/content/wp-content/uploads/2007/10/leave-britney-alone-guy.jpg

Quit it, It's not Fair
Clinton and W would never do something like this
Quick someone call a wha----mbulance

:lmao:

You always have the best pictures and videos. LOL @ that kid.

BrAinPaiNt
10-24-2008, 03:04 PM
He's certainly catching more passes that Terrell Owens has been.

ZING!

Great now the Dallas media will start using that line, some of them DO visit this board. If I read that somewhere I will first credit you...and then the evil begins.:eek: ;) :p:

zrinkill
10-24-2008, 03:07 PM
k. done for awhile. thanks.

Yup ...... Brain smells the blood in the water of the party he hates.

Nothing else matters.

Even though you (and me) have always defended Obama from this sort of stupidity, and he never mocked that.


Wonder why?

Wheat
10-24-2008, 03:09 PM
Unfair? I don't know. I think they keep setting themselves up for this.

I mean, you can't pay Palin's hair stylist more than McCain's Foreign Policy Advisor and expect it to just be "whatever" when you message is you're the everyman. It doesn't jive.

BrAinPaiNt
10-24-2008, 03:14 PM
Yup ...... Brain smells the blood in the water of the party he hates.

Nothing else matters.

Even though you (and me) have always defended Obama from this sort of stupidity, and he never mocked that.


Wonder why?

What are you whining about here?

Seriously?

She has had no worse done to her than what many other politicians have had done to them via the attack machine.

I guess people forget some of the thing in the past.

So why is unfair to pick on her but fair for others to do it?

Why do we need to have a thread saying it is unfair when it is pretty much par for the course?

Why??? Because she is the star of the republican party and people are going to protect her I guess because I can think of no other reason.

Hell she has not had as much crap thrown her way as Obama has had his but we gotta start a thread of it being unfair to her?

Attacks and such are stupid in elections but the simple fact of the matter is they happen and it is not something that just started in this election. If I recall correctly even Atwater felt so bad about some of the things he did that years later he would call and apologize to those that he smeared.

It happens...It Sucks but it Happens.

So call a whambulance if you guys want to or just do what I do and poke fun at most of it ooooooorrrrr better yet go out there and continue to vote for a Republican or Democrat and make sure that you play your part in continuing the trend because as long as you guys vote either or they will continue the same ways.

Thanks I am BP and I approve of this whining.

zrinkill
10-24-2008, 03:21 PM
What are you whining about here?

Did I comment in this thread other than on you mocking someone who has also defended Obama from this type of stupid attacks?

Ice defends both sides from this type of thing.

Yet I think you only "whine" about it when he defends a "certain" side.

So continue your "whining" about people "whining".

bbgun
10-24-2008, 03:23 PM
'eh, the point isn't "don't pick on her" but the consistency of which they do it. lie if you have to, it just doesn't matter.

Indeed. She has been the victim of one of the nastiest, most sustained and comprehensive slime-jobs ever performed by a hyper-partisan national and global media. She hasn't been merely "vetted" or "scrutinized" like any other candidate (if only!). Instead, she has been hated, mocked, ambushed, and vilified. Joe "gaffe" Biden hasn't been subjected to one-tenth the venom this woman has had to endure. His serial, embarrassing ****ups are either not reported, under-reported, or whimsically dismissed as "Joe being Joe." Ditto his running mate, whose media flunkies rush to condemn any and all criticism as "racist." Alas, naked misogyny is aok with the leftards and media elites. The latest piece of nonsense is the Republicans' $150,000 wardrobe bill. Suddenly, it's everyone's business what the Republicans do with their own money. How much dough did the Dems blow in Denver on Obama's elaborate stage, hotel rooms, airline tickets, fireworks, and booze-soaked parties? Actually, I could care less. Why? Because it's not my money.

Go on. Tell yourself Plain has received the same, kid-glove MSM treatment extended to Obama, because I really need the laugh.

BrAinPaiNt
10-24-2008, 03:25 PM
Did I comment in this thread other than you mocking someone who has also defended Obama from this type of stupid attacks?

Ice defends both sides from this type of thing.

Yet I think you only "whine" about it when he defends a "certain" side.

So continue your "whining" about people "whining".

Ice is no different from the rest of us so let's spare that notion.

We (Ice, You, Me and others) defend both sides at times and we definitely go at certain sides at other times.

Palin gets picked on...Boohoo. Obama gets picked on BoooHooo, McCain gets picked on BooHoo...Biden gets picked on BooHoo.

The only time I care one way or the other is if it goes over the line to racism or making fun of someones child because that child has an illness or something of that nature.

ChinaCat
10-24-2008, 07:31 PM
Editor's Note: Ruben Navarrette Jr. is a nationally syndicated columnist and a member of the editorial board of the San Diego Union-Tribune. Read his column here (http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/op-ed/navarrette/index.html).
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Ruben Navarrette says liberal attacks on Sarah Palin and Joe Wurzelbacher are unfair.

SAN DIEGO, California (CNN) -- I thought liberals were supposed to be good-hearted, open-minded and non-judgmental.

Tell that to the angry Left's favorite piņata, Sarah Palin. As far as liberals are concerned, Palin can do no right just as Barack Obama and Joe Biden can do no wrong. In fact, Biden is catching more passes than an NFL wide receiver.

As Palin herself pointed out in a recent CNN interview, imagine if she had been the one to imply that electing Obama would invite calamity. Biden does it, and the media shrug.

I also thought the Democratic Party was supposed to go to bat for the little guy, the everyday Joe the Plumber.

Tell that to Joe Wurzelbacher, the Ohio resident who got his 15 minutes -- and 40 lashes -- because he dared question Obama about his tax plan. Obama insists that the plan would raise taxes (http://topics.cnn.com/topics/Taxes) only on those Americans earning more than $250,000 per year. It was then Obama made his clumsy "spread the wealth" comment.

What was Joe thinking: that we live in a democracy where everyday Americans who pay the salaries of elected officials can dare question their policies? That just isn't done.

To prove it, the elites who run the Democratic Party -- along with their surrogates in the media and organized labor -- went after the plumber.

We now know that Samuel Joe Wurzelbacher owes back taxes, doesn't have a plumbing license (he told the Associated Press he doesn't need one because he works for someone else's company), and may not be registered to vote.

Commenting on a CNN.com story, one condescending reader wrote that Joe the Plumber should pipe down and "get back in my bathroom and unclog the toilet."

Even Biden (http://topics.cnn.com/topics/Joseph_Biden) and Obama got in a few licks. Biden quipped to Jay Leno that Democrats wanted to take care of "Joe-the-real-plumber-with-a-license," and Obama sarcastically asked supporters, "how many plumbers do you know making $250,000 a year?" The implication being that Joe the Plumber isn't who he pretends to be.

What worries me is that the Democrats aren't what they pretend to be.

Obama supporters like to talk about how the Democratic presidential nominee has lived the American Dream. So why is it to so hard for them to conceive of a situation where someone dreams of earning more money a few years from now than they earn today. Has Barack Obama consumed all the social mobility this country has to offer, so there isn't any left for the rest of us?

Now, the Obama-Biden boosters have refocused their attention on their earlier irritant, Sarah Palin.

The latest media template is that the vice presidential nominee is a drag on the GOP ticket. Pundits detect a backlash, not just among Democrats who love to hate Sarah Palin (http://topics.cnn.com/topics/Sarah_Palin) but also among women, independents and seniors.

They cite polls showing Palin with an unfavorable rating of 50 percent.

So what? We're in the post-Clinton, post-Bush era of polarization where any politician with a pulse -- Sorry, Joe Biden -- will be loved by half the country and hated by the other half.

It's surreal. Before McCain put Palin on the ticket, he was getting 200 people at campaign rallies, and now, when he appears when Palin, he gets 20,000.

Yes, definitely a drag. iReport.com: Rock star welcome for Palin in Ohio (http://www.ireport.com/docs/DOC-122626)
McCain oversold it when he said Palin was the most qualified vice presidential candidate in recent history. Better than Dick Cheney? Could she be worse?

Obama might have paid Biden the same compliment if his running mate hadn't already told supporters that Hillary Clinton would have been a better choice.

Then there is the faux-scandal that the Republican National Committee shelled out $150,000 in the past several weeks on Palin and her family for campaign wardrobe, accessories, makeup, etc.

Many Americans don't see why it's a story. Fellow hockey mom Page Growney of New Canaan, Conn., asked The Associated Press, "What did you want to see her in, a turtleneck from L.L. Bean?"

Still, we're told, this tempest in a Gucci bag has some Republicans worrying that shopping sprees at Neiman Marcus and Saks Fifth Avenue might undermine Palin's everywoman image. To think, just last month, the criticism was that Sarah the Moose Hunter wasn't sufficiently sophisticated or glamorous. Now her wardrobe signals the hockey mom is high-maintenance.

Just how many more caricatures -- some of them contradictory -- can we expect the left to throw at Sarah Palin before time runs out on this election?
The opinions expressed in this commentary are solely those of Ruben Navarrette Jr.

Does this site have a fiddle emoticon? Ahhhh here we go.

:violin:

Maikeru-sama
10-24-2008, 08:24 PM
This really is beating a dead horse.

America is divided politically and despite what some think, American Society has a long history of this, even in the early days of the Republic.

Sarah Palin and John McCain can do no right in the eyes of the Left and Barack Obama and Joe Biden can do no right in the eyes of the Right.

People taking sides is how it has always been and how it always will be.

DaBoys4Life
10-24-2008, 08:26 PM
Welcome to the big leagues Alaska.

zrinkill
10-24-2008, 08:28 PM
This really is beating a dead horse.

America is divided politically and despite what some think, American Society has a long history of this, even in the early days of the Republic.

Sarah Palin and John McCain can do no right in the eyes of the Left and Barack Obama and Joe Biden can do no right in the eyes of the Right.

People taking sides is how it has always been and how it always will be.


:bow:

ConcordCowboy
10-24-2008, 10:00 PM
http://www.podcastingnews.com/content/wp-content/uploads/2007/10/leave-britney-alone-guy.jpg

Leave Sarah Alone,
Quit Picking on her
It's Not Fair


:lmao2:

ConcordCowboy
10-24-2008, 10:03 PM
Ice is no different from the rest of us so let's spare that notion.

We (Ice, You, Me and others) defend both sides at times and we definitely go at certain sides at other times.

Palin gets picked on...Boohoo. Obama gets picked on BoooHooo, McCain gets picked on BooHoo...Biden gets picked on BooHoo.

The only time I care one way or the other is if it goes over the line to racism or making fun of someones child because that child has an illness or something of that nature.

Exactly.

Spare me.

ConcordCowboy
10-24-2008, 10:46 PM
She won't have to take this abuse much longer.

http://abcnews.go.com/images/Entertainment/nm_dreyfuss_080312_main.jpg... "I don't have to take this abuse much longer."

Big Dakota
10-24-2008, 11:02 PM
http://abcnews.go.com/images/Entertainment/nm_dreyfuss_080312_main.jpg... "I don't have to take this abuse much longer."

:D
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a4/W_C_Fields06.jpg/250px-W_C_Fields06.jpg (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:W_C_Fields06.jpg)

ConcordCowboy
10-24-2008, 11:03 PM
:D
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a4/W_C_Fields06.jpg/250px-W_C_Fields06.jpg (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:W_C_Fields06.jpg)

Preach it Brother!

:D

bbgun
10-24-2008, 11:39 PM
How's that pro-Obama bias workin' for ya?

http://ace.mu.nu/archives/aaawwwyeah.jpg

:lmao2:

iceberg
10-25-2008, 12:15 AM
Exactly.

Spare me.

i never said i was, did i?

it must really be fun for you to make up your mind long before the events take place.

silverbear
10-25-2008, 12:16 AM
Exactly...cry me a river.

Actually, to do anything less would be condescending to her, even sexist...

silverbear
10-25-2008, 12:19 AM
from my recollection, she didn't say much of anything for a week or so till the convention. by then, how much attacking had been done to her?

Uhhh, vetting is not "attacking"... what do you think would have happened to ANY unknown candidate, of any gender, who first came to prominence all of a sudden??

Of course the Democrats and the media are going to look real close at her... just as closely as we've been looking at McCain, Obama and Biden...

The only "attack" I saw, and I have denounced it several times now, was the way Bristol suddenly came to the national consciousness...

But politics seems to be a contact sport these days, ice, and you can't realistically expect the rules to suddenly change just because a female wandered onto the playing field...

iceberg
10-25-2008, 12:33 AM
Uhhh, vetting is not "attacking"... what do you think would have happened to ANY unknown candidate, of any gender, who first came to prominence all of a sudden??

Of course the Democrats and the media are going to look real close at her... just as closely as we've been looking at McCain, Obama and Biden...

The only "attack" I saw, and I have denounced it several times now, was the way Bristol suddenly came to the national consciousness...

But politics seems to be a contact sport these days, ice, and you can't realistically expect the rules to suddenly change just because a female wandered onto the playing field...

no. but i can't expect them to step up because a female wandered onto the playing field either.

but they did.

i hate it. i hate it on both sides. i want to go after the issues with 1/2 the passion we go at each other.

but we don't.

it sucks.

silverbear
10-25-2008, 01:34 AM
no. but i can't expect them to step up because a female wandered onto the playing field either.

but they did.

i hate it. i hate it on both sides. i want to go after the issues with 1/2 the passion we go at each other.

Hey, me too... sadly, I kinda doubt we'll live long enough to see a campaign that's all about the issues... then again, dirty politics is as old as the country, isn't it??

MetalHead
10-25-2008, 08:09 AM
To answer the initial question of the thread,just go to the PZ page and look for Palin threads.
That should lead you in the right direction.

BrAinPaiNt
10-25-2008, 08:15 AM
To answer the initial question of the thread,just go to the PZ page and look for Palin threads.
That should lead you in the right direction.

Not our fault she can not answer a simple softball question like what newspapers do you read. Even a child could have came up with one or two to name.:laugh2: That was like a Dan Quayle potato(e) moment for her.

MetalHead
10-25-2008, 08:34 AM
Not our fault she can not answer a simple softball question like what newspapers do you read. Even a child could have came up with one or two to name.:laugh2: That was like a Dan Quayle potato(e) moment for her.

What about Biden?
How many dumb things he has said and he gets a pass.
How come the BP who attacks both sides gives Biden a pass?
I don't see you letting loose on him.
You are fooling no one here...we know which way you swing.

BrAinPaiNt
10-25-2008, 08:41 AM
What about Biden?
How many dumb things he has said and he gets a pass.
How come the BP who attacks both sides gives Biden a pass?
I don't see you letting loose on him.
You are fooling no one here...we know which way you swing.

You know jack and crap and crap just left town.:laugh2:

Biden always has been and always will be a gaffe machine but I bet you money if someone asked him what news papers he reads he could name quite a few.

You guys can sugar coat that one all you want but you can't turn it because it is indefensible. Again it was her Dan Quayle moment.

And again for the reading impaired...I AM NOT VOTING FOR OBAMA/BIDEN.

Every time I hear or see you guys try that if you are not with us you are against us so that must mean you are voting for Obama crap I think of this song (caught in a mosh by anthrax) ...look up the lyrics and you can understand why.

r_yKpBPHJug

Nice try.

ScipioCowboy
10-25-2008, 10:23 AM
:laugh2:

Biden always has been and always will be a gaffe machine but I bet you money if someone asked him what news papers he reads he could name quite a few.

Apparently, though, he's never cracked a history book.
:lmao2:

BrAinPaiNt
10-25-2008, 03:57 PM
Apparently, though, he's never cracked a history book.
:lmao2:

I guess palin has not either as the only supreme court case not named RoeVsWade she can name is....RoeVS Wade.

:laugh2: :laugh2: :laugh2: :laugh2:

Heisenberg
10-25-2008, 04:39 PM
http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh185/cerrakin/libsxq6.jpg

ScipioCowboy
10-25-2008, 06:21 PM
I guess palin has not either as the only supreme court case not named RoeVsWade she can name is....RoeVS Wade.

:laugh2: :laugh2: :laugh2: :laugh2:

Not only does Biden lack even the most rudimentary knowledge of history; he apparently knows very little about one of the cornerstone issues of his campaign platform--alternative energy.

Don't you think it would've been in Biden's been interest to brush up on this whole clean coal thing before incorrectly stating his campaign's official position on this issue?

:lmao:


See, we can place this game all day long, but this one undeniable fact will always remain:

Both Biden and Palin have had a number of embarrassing gaffes--neither one being any worse than the other. So let's at least try to be honest on this point...especially if you're really interested in toning down the rhetoric on this board.

Just a suggestion.:)

MetalHead
10-26-2008, 12:26 AM
I guess palin has not either as the only supreme court case not named RoeVsWade she can name is....RoeVS Wade.

:laugh2: :laugh2: :laugh2: :laugh2:

Vote early vote often....
Your fabricated boy wants you to.
BrainPaint Obeys Obama

Phrozen Phil
10-26-2008, 12:35 AM
Vote early vote often....
Your fabricated boy wants you to.
BrainPaint Obeys Obama

I don't think so. It would not surprise me (but it would disappoint me) to hear that he elected not to vote in the Presidential race. He should consider himself fined by me under Australian Law if he fails to vote. Yeah, Brain Paint, I'm watching you, you insidious potential non-voter, you.....

Rogah
10-26-2008, 12:39 AM
What about Biden?
How many dumb things he has said and he gets a pass.
How come the BP who attacks both sides gives Biden a pass?
I don't see you letting loose on him.
You are fooling no one here...we know which way you swing.Jimmy Kimmel must be a Republican because the only reason I know of a couple of Biden's gaffes are because of the Jimmy Kimmel Show. He's really gotten a free pass on his whole (paraphrasing) "jobs, J-O-B-S, is a 3 letter word" remark. But that wasn't even his funniest line... his best line, which Kimmel called "the worst segway ever" is his "21 reminds me of 44" routine :D

It's going to be a fun 4 years, my friends :laugh2:
You guys can sugar coat that one all you want but you can't turn it because it is indefensible. Again it was her Dan Quayle moment.She was like a deer caught in headlights (hence the appropriateness of your Quayle comparison). I just don't know what she was thinking. Giving an answer - any answer - and nobody would have cared. By avoiding the question (especially in such an awkward fashion) only guaranteed it would receive a lot of attention.

vta
10-26-2008, 09:24 AM
People can pretend all they want, the truth is, Palin is getting excessive coverage overvall and 90% of it is just superfluous garbage.

It's just way to keep in the public mind an impression that's being formed by this sad excuse we have for journalism.

I don't know if I'll call anyone 'liberals', I'll just continue to recognize the subversive dishonesty our news sources.

Jordan55
10-26-2008, 10:06 AM
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Jordan55
10-26-2008, 10:30 AM
From the , and yet ignored by the media, can you say fair and balanced

“Joe sometimes engages in rhetorical flourishes. But I think that his core point was that the next administration is going to be tested regardless of who it is,” Obama told reporters after meeting with his national security working group. “The next administration is going to be inheriting a whole host of really big problems and so the president is going to be tested and the question is will the next president meet that test by moving America in a new direction by sending a clear signal to the rest of the world that we are no longer about bluster and unilateralism and ideology but we’re about creating partnerships around the world to solve practical problems.”