View Full Version : Interesting Newsweek poll regarding 2012
Heisenberg
10-25-2008, 03:56 AM
http://www.newsweek.com/id/165570
If John McCain is not elected president, which one of the following three possible candidates would you be most likely to support for the Republican presidential nomination in 2012?
Mitt Romney 35%
Mike Huckabee 26%
Sarah Palin 20%
So, Mitt again?
Heisenberg
10-25-2008, 04:53 AM
No support for Mittens?
http://www.callingalldogs.com/ProductImages/toys/Mittens300.jpg
Actually, I'm just bored and wanted to post a picture of mittens.
Beast_from_East
10-25-2008, 04:58 AM
Seems logical, he was basically the "Hillary" of the Republican party.
He was the runner up, it just didnt get covered very much since the Repubs are winner take all delegates and the winner is picked very early that way.
Mitt Romney Vs. Barack Obama 2nd term............choices in 2012
It depends on how Obama's 1st term goes, if the economy rebounds then he will probably get a 2nd term, if it goes totally in the crapper then he will be a one-termer like Bush Sr.
BrAinPaiNt
10-25-2008, 08:01 AM
I would take him over Palin in a heartbeat as I think she is a disaster in waiting.
However I think I would prefer Huckabee over him even though Huckabee has his warts concerning flip flopping on some conservative issues in his career and I would hope he would simmer down some of his other beliefs as far as it effecting his political judgments. I happen to like Huckabee and think he is a good character guy, probably more than any other that was at the republican primaries except for Ron Paul.
I think many chose Mitt because his strong suit was economic issues and we are currently in an economic crisis so that probably plays heavily into their choices. I have also mentioned before that I wonder if this race would be closer, or maybe have McCain in the lead, if Romney was his running mate and the economic issues would be Mitts strong suit now. I would imagine their campaign strategy might be very different right now if he was the vp candidate.
Kangaroo
10-25-2008, 10:19 AM
All that will change in 4 years
burmafrd
10-25-2008, 10:19 AM
Brain I really think you are blind about Palin/ but then again you seem prone to decide on someone and then not change.
Danny White
10-25-2008, 12:12 PM
I think Gingrich will be a factor as well.
Romney will be popular if the economy is still in trouble.
VCDefectors
10-25-2008, 12:23 PM
I hate to say it, but I think in 4 years, Palin will be ready to pounce if an Obama administration proves to be a disaster. Could we be witnessing 1976 all over again, where Reagan was waiting in the wings for the Nixon storm to be over and that it was better to let the Dems inherit a bad economy destined to get worse? It feels a lot like that,
Danny White
10-25-2008, 12:26 PM
I hate to say it, but I think in 4 years, Palin will be ready to pounce if an Obama administration proves to be a disaster. Could we be witnessing 1976 all over again, where Reagan was waiting in the wings for the Nixon storm to be over and that it was better to let the Dems inherit a bad economy destined to get worse? It feels a lot like that,
She'll have four years to work on substance and gravitas and her grasp on all the issues.
If she can't master those things in that time, then she doesn't deserve to run.
I have confidence that she'll handle the task admirably, but we'll see.
VCDefectors
10-25-2008, 12:33 PM
She'll have four years to work on substance and gravitas and her grasp on all the issues.
If she can't master those things in that time, then she doesn't deserve to run.
I have confidence that she'll handle the task admirably, but we'll see.
As I eluded to in the other thread, IMO she'd be better off staying as a Washington outsider, let Obama and the Dems inherit the economic and geopolitical mess, and distance herself from the McCain/moderate faction of the Republican party.
Sasquatch
10-25-2008, 12:45 PM
Palin will be ready to pounce,
Palin pounce? Sorry, but that tiger of the north has proven to be a *****cat. She better bring her A game next time.
Personally, I don't think there will be a next time for her or any of the other usual suspects. I think that some other person will arise 8 years from now who will take the party in a different direction that appeals to sophisticated urbanites as well as dimwitted, reactionary joe sixpacks.
Don't know who that person might be, though.
tyke1doe
10-25-2008, 07:45 PM
Palin has no shot in 2012. She will be a political afterthought.
Danny White
10-25-2008, 08:07 PM
Palin has no shot in 2012. She will be a political afterthought.
Based on what factors do you arrive at this declaration?
If she decides that she wants to run, she will be a fundraising powerhouse. In the primaries, early money is very important, and she should be able to raise it by the truckload.
She is very popular with the base of the party, and they are the ones who have a lot of say as to who the nominee will be.
This year, there was no viable candidate who was popular with the base, and that's how we got into the situation we're in now, with such a poor nominee.
But Palin will be able to raise the money, she'll do very well in many of the early states... she should particularly excel in Iowa.
Now she may not be interested and may just go back do Alaska and do her thing and fade into the wilderness. But somehow I think she has bigger plans... and if she wants it, she'll be hard to beat.
Beast_from_East
10-25-2008, 10:48 PM
As I eluded to in the other thread, IMO she'd be better off staying as a Washington outsider, let Obama and the Dems inherit the economic and geopolitical mess, and distance herself from the McCain/moderate faction of the Republican party.
I agree, the hardcore conservatives (like Limbaugh and Hannity) absolutely love Palin and really cant stand McCain very much, everybody knows that Limbaugh wanted Romney (of course that was before Palin showed up).
I think Romney is the frontrunner right now due to the damged reputation that Palin has. If she can rehabilitate herself over the next 4 years and if things go badly for Obama in his first term, then she could defiently win the nomination in 2012.
You do make a very good point my friend about letting Obama and the Dems take over this economic mess.
With Obama in the Presidency, Reid as Senate Majority Leader, and Polisi as Speaker of the House, the Dems will not have any Republicans to blame since they will control everything.
That is the bad thing about controlling everything, you get all the credit but you also get all the blame if things dont work out too well.
Now McCain is not letting Obama win here, McCain has conducted one of the most incompetent campaigns of all time and basically gave himself no chance to win. I am just saying that there might be a silver lining here for Palin in 2012.
Cajuncowboy
10-25-2008, 10:56 PM
I think Gingrich will be a factor as well.
Romney will be popular if the economy is still in trouble.
:pray:
Gingrich/Palin!!!!!
Maikeru-sama
10-25-2008, 11:19 PM
I wouldn't be suprised if the nominee in 2012 is someone not on public radar at the moment.
Also, as long as Sarah Palin doesn't have any major hiccups between now and 2012, she will definately be a frontrunner in 2012.
Also, if Mike Huckabee is able to get the nomination, depending upon how it goes with the Obama Administration, I could see myself voting for him.
ZeroClub
10-26-2008, 02:36 AM
Palin may have advantages within the Republican Party, but Huckabee would be a tougher candidate in a general election. He's brighter, more media savvy, more likeable, and less divisive than Palin. Of the two far right candidates, Huckabee is the most disarming ... and therefore would have the better chance with moderates and independents.
And that's the classic struggle (for both parties), isn't it? The candidate who plays best to the base may not be the candidate who plays best in the general election.
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