Military votes being tossed, Again!

[Cajuncowboy]

Military Votes Being Tossed Again
By Bob Parks Saturday, October 25, 2008

"We support the troops” except when they vote Republican. That would appear to be the pattern again this presidential election, last perfected in 2000, and resurrected in 2008….

Fairfax County Registrar Rokey Suleman is disqualifying an overwhelming majority of the military federal write-in absentee ballots received in his county on the basis that no address had been given for those witnessing the voter signatures on the ballots. According to Springfield District Supervisor Pat Herrity and four former members of the military who held a press conference on Thursday, over 98 percent of these military absentee ballots in Fairfax County are being rejected.

“The federal write-in absentee ballot is a federally mandated ballot that allows military service members and their dependents to cast an absentee ballot when they haven’t received a [state] ballot before the election,” Herrity said. “For them it’s a safety net. It allows them to vote if the mail truck hasn’t reached his or her remote base in Iran or Afghanistan in time to cast a regular absentee ballot.”

When asked how many ballots had been rejected, Herrity responded, “Out of the 260 military federal write-in ballots received to date, only five included an address for the witness. The other 255 have been set aside for rejection.”

So here’s how it stands today: we can toss out almost all of the votes submitted by those overseas fighting for our right to do so, while others do everything to protect groups who submit fraudulent voter registrations and votes.

Our priorities need work.


http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/5800

[DaBoys4Life]

what a joke.....

[BrAinPaiNt]

I think it sucks they are not counting them however until they make an amendment to the rule, they are just following the rules.

I do think they should make an amendment but again, until they do, they are just following the rules.

[burmafrd]

There is a lot of emphasis over here about voting. Sad to see that the people the troops are protecting seem quite willing to deny their votes. So where is the Obama outrage? Where are all the libs screaming about this?
Of course the fact that the military usually votes 70%+ republican probably has something to do with it.

[burmafrd]

Hey brain if this is true they would be doing it all over the country. Sounds to me like discrimination.

Oh forgot

You cannot discriminate against conservatives or the military/at least according to the libs anyway

[JRid21]

I think it sucks they are not counting them however until they make an amendment to the rule, they are just following the rules.

I do think they should make an amendment but again, until they do, they are just following the rules.


I think they are trying to fix it
I saw a guy on CNN and FOX talking about trying to get it fixed real soon

[burmafrd]

Interesting how this comes out so close to the election. They have been getting these ballots for weeks. But nothing until now?

[Cajuncowboy]

I think it sucks they are not counting them however until they make an amendment to the rule, they are just following the rules.

I do think they should make an amendment but again, until they do, they are just following the rules.

But the 600,000 Acorn fraudulent registrations don't have to be tossed in Ohio.

And that's against the rules as well.

Seems to be a bit of hypocrisy to me. (Not you BP, in general)

[BrAinPaiNt]

Hey brain if this is true they would be doing it all over the country. Sounds to me like discrimination.

Oh forgot

You cannot discriminate against conservatives or the military/at least according to the libs anyway

Quit being silly. I have been for the troops because I was one of the troops so get off your goofy high horse with your normal crap. I have been more for the troops than you will ever be so don't hand me that crap.

If you want to rip on someone, rip on the commanders of the troops units for not reading the rules and offering to sign as witnesses for their troops.

Man you get my goat when you pull that support the troop crap with me...let me tell you something son, I doubt you have ever been in the field and treated soldiers, I doubt you ever had to suck a quart of blood out of a dying soldiers chest cavity in hopes of saving his life knowing it would not, I bet you have never had to cauterize a wound while others have had to hold a soldier down while he is screaming in pain so lay off that crap because you have no clue.

[BrAinPaiNt]

But the 600,000 Acorn fraudulent registrations don't have to be tossed in Ohio.

And that's against the rules as well.

Seems to be a bit of hypocrisy to me. (Not you BP, in general)

I thought a great deal of the fraud registrations have been flagged and tossed furthermore there is a difference between registering and actual votes.

Look I think it is wrong for the military guys. I think they need to make an amendment and it would seem they should have done so long ago if it was a problem before.

But we also have to look at those troops leaders for not reading up on this or those that should have sent literature to the troops commanders to make sure they have a witness sign for them.

Don't like it one bit, but it seems at this point they are only following the set rules.

[Cajuncowboy]

Quit being silly. I have been for the troops because I was one of the troops so get off your goofy high horse with your normal crap. I have been more for the troops than you will ever be so don't hand me that crap.

If you want to rip on someone, rip on the commanders of the troops units for not reading the rules and offering to sign as witnesses for their troops.

Man you get my goat when you pull that support the troop crap with me...let me tell you something son, I doubt you have ever been in the field and treated soldiers, I doubt you ever had to suck a quart of blood out of a dying soldiers chest cavity in hopes of saving his life knowing it would not, I bet you have never had to cauterize a wound while others have had to hold a soldier down while he is screaming in pain so lay off that crap because you have no clue.

I didn't read it as he was attacking you directly but making the point of discrimination in general.

But maybe I should let him state his case.

[BrAinPaiNt]

I think they are trying to fix it
I saw a guy on CNN and FOX talking about trying to get it fixed real soon

Good...but truth is if they had this trouble before, they should have fixed it at that time.

They also need to get literature to the troops commanders and the commanders (whether it be battalion, company, platoon or squad levels) need to set aside some time to give these troops the chance to vote and for the leaders to sign off on them as witnesses.

[Cajuncowboy]

I thought a great deal of the fraud registrations have been flagged and tossed furthermore there is a difference between registering and actual votes.

Look I think it is wrong for the military guys. I think they need to make an amendment and it would seem they should have done so long ago if it was a problem before.

But we also have to look at those troops leaders for not reading up on this or those that should have sent literature to the troops commanders to make sure they have a witness sign for them.

Don't like it one bit, but it seems at this point they are only following the set rules.

No they weren't tossed. They were not even mandated to be turned over to the election board so they can compare them. The courts ruled against it for fear of disenfranchising voters. Where there is registration fraud, there would more thn likely be voter fraud. Otherwise, what's the point?

If you are going to have rules then have them for everybody, not just the ones who vote republican.

[BrAinPaiNt]

I didn't read it as he was attacking you directly but making the point of discrimination in general.

But maybe I should let him state his case.

This guy has questioned me before in this type of manner and frankly I am sick of it. This guy is the last guy that needs to question my support for the troops while he is over there making more money than the troops.

Don't ever question me when it comes to supporting the troops or you will get an ear full and get my blood racing.

[Cajuncowboy]

This guy has questioned me before in this type of manner and frankly I am sick of it. This guy is the last guy that needs to question my support for the troops while he is over there making more money than the troops.

Don't ever question me when it comes to supporting the troops or you will get an ear full and get my blood racing.

I would have a problem if he did that. And he shouldn't. We all know who served and that service should not be questioned. I wouldn't doubt your support for the troops and I think anyone who did doesn't know you.

BTW, if anyone wants to get your blood boiling they should just post this...

http://msnbcmedia3.msn.com/j/msnbc/Components/Photo_StoryLevel/080227/080224-robert-byrd-hmed-125a.hmedium.jpg

[JRid21]

Good...but truth is if they had this trouble before, they should have fixed it at that time.

They also need to get literature to the troops commanders and the commanders (whether it be battalion, company, platoon or squad levels) need to set aside some time to give these troops the chance to vote and for the leaders to sign off on them as witnesses.


I think it was a Republican congressman on t.v. talking about it, not sure wasn't paying much attention at the time. I heard Pelosi's name mentioned in it as well and something negative she had said. I'll try to find an article or the video itself if I can.

[NinePointOh]

Where there is registration fraud, there would more thn likely be voter fraud. Otherwise, what's the point?

Um, to make money and remain employed? These were employees who were paid per registration, and who had been told ACORN would shut down their office if their numbers didn't improve. Those canvassers actually bilked ACORN out of at least tens of thousands of dollars in compensation.

[Cajuncowboy]

Um, to make money and remain employed? These were employees who were paid per registration, and who had been told ACORN would shut down their office if their numbers didn't improve. Those canvassers actually bilked ACORN out of at least tens of thousands of dollars in compensation.

Oh wait...ACORN is the victim...


:lmao2: :lmao:

Oh you guys are funny. ACORN didn't care to do their job correctly. They only cared to get the fraudulent registrations.

It was THEIR job to oversee that.

And since it receives government money, it was the tax payers who got bilked.

Get it right.

[NinePointOh]

Oh wait...ACORN is the victim...

If that's how you interpret the situation, so be it. Your words, not mine. I said they were bilked by their employees, and they were. They ought to have caught it themselves, but that doesn't mean the organization itself orchestrated some vast conspiracy to steal the election.

ACORN didn't care to do their job correctly. They only cared to get the fraudulent registrations.

It was THEIR job to oversee that.

I agree.

And since it receives government money, it was the tax payers who got bilked.

ACORN is a conglomeration of several distinct parts, including local non-profits.

[sacase]

Intent doesn't matter. They did it, it was illegal, ACORN should be shut down and the people involved should go to jail.

[Sasquatch]

Why does the United States have so many issues with voting? Are we inept or what? It's embarrassing.

[JRid21]

Why does the United States have so many issues with voting? Are we inept or what? It's embarrassing.

Could be that we are

[ABQCOWBOY]

Could be that we are


Personally, I think it's because we leave ourselves an out. We want to cheat if we have to. The problem could be fixed but we don't really want to fix it bad enough. Seriously, where I live, campaigns get fixed a lot. I'm not even kidding. It happens all the time.

[BigDFan5]

shameful

[Phrozen Phil]

shameful

Would you like us to send some observers? We Canucks have lots of experience in observing contentious international elections. Come to think of it, so do Americans. (?) :confused:

[ZeroClub]

There are going to be a whole bunch of people who are disenfranchised before this election is over. Soldiers, college students, Republicans, Democrats, etc. ....

Most of what I've read suggests that it should hurt the Democrats more (minorities and college students are expected to have the biggest trouble), but no matter which party it hurts most, there is something fundamentally wrong with people losing their votes on technicalities.

[BigDFan5]

Would you like us to send some observers? We Canucks have lots of experience in observing contentious international elections. Come to think of it, so do Americans. (?) :confused:

No but could you send me some real maple syrup?

[Sasquatch]

No but could you send me some real maple syrup?

Can I get it on some of that action, please? It's absurdly expensive here.

[Phrozen Phil]

Can I get it on some of that action, please? It's absurdly expensive here.

Actually, it's expensive here too, besides, Maple Syrup comes from Eastern Canada. I could send you some oil! ;)

[Phrozen Phil]

http://www.cartoonstock.com/lowres/vsh0381l.jpg

There's some syrup here, but you may not want it.....

[BigDFan5]

Actually, it's expensive here too, besides, Maple Syrup comes from Eastern Canada. I could send you some oil! ;)

that sucks, I have a friend from Canada always talking about how great the syrup is there and what we get here is not comparable. So send me some damn it! LOL