No one can tell me...Ty Law *merge*

[miamicowboy21]

Ty law wouldn't have been a nice veteran addition to this team. He signed on tuesday and is out their in Randy Moss grill tonight.....Amazing. The guy still has the smarts and the savvy to add something to a contending team. Great signing by the jets for the strecth run.

[DaBoys4Life]

He wouldn't have been....

[MONT17]

Ty Law sux in JerryWorld! Didn't u know that?

[cowboyjoe]

Well i will go on record, i was all for ty law and i got shot down my majority of the zoners, but I did ask if ty law would be good and should we look at him,

all i heard, is he is washed up, etc

i also said, if he does good, i will reask the ones that said no to ty law

you have to give it some games and see if ty law can hold up for at least 6 games or more, then you can judge him,

then you can give an accurate judgement,

[Dave_in-NC]

He hasn't committed any crimes. Why would we sign him?;)

[Chocolate Lab]

:pray: Please God, don't let Nors see this thread...

[theebs]

He hasn't committed any crimes. Why would we sign him?;)


LOL

Its sad that those days are close to returning.

and to be fair cassel doesnt exactly look like drew brees tonight.

[Rampage]

Ty Law who has missed all season> Anthony Henry

[Kilyin]

Uh, he covered Moss for like two plays.

[JonJon]

Hate to say it, but maybe we missed a gem by not sigining Law. We don't know if Newman will be 100% this year, Henry is all but done, and there is a chance Pacman won't be back. Yet, Law is doing a great job shutting down Moss....Oh well, can't land them all.

[Kilyin]

Yet, Law is doing a great job shutting down Moss....Oh well, can't land them all.

Are you watching the game? They switched the coverage for one, possibly two plays where he was covering Moss. Law isn't shutting down Moss, double coverage is.

Some of you people just parrot a comment by the announcers, then exaggerate the hell out of it and come on here spouting nonsense.

[JonJon]

Are you watching the game? They switched the coverage for one, possibly two plays where he was covering Moss. Law isn't shutting down Moss, double coverage is.

Some of you people just parrot a comment by the announcers, then exaggerate the hell out of it and come on here spouting nonsense.

:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:
Randy Moss 1 reception 2 yards

[Kilyin]

:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:
Randy Moss 1 reception 2 yards

Wow, really? And that's relevant since Law has covered Gaffney on 90% of his snaps, except for a play or two where they flipped the coverage. But just ignore that point and go paste stats from nfl.com...

Nors jr.

[windward]

:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:
Randy Moss 1 reception 2 yards
He's not disputing that Moss has been shut down. He's disputing who's responsible for it.

[Kilyin]

Hey did you see that ball get knocked away from Moss... Law for sure is teh greatest CB evar. Oh wait, that was Lowery.

[Primetime42]

You people act like Law was gonna come here.

LOL

[the kid 05]

Ty law wouldn't have been a nice veteran addition to this team. He signed on tuesday and is out their in Randy Moss grill tonight.....Amazing. The guy still has the smarts and the savvy to add something to a contending team. Great signing by the jets for the strecth run.

He wouldn't have been....

you smart alec...

[Double Trouble]

and to be fair cassel doesnt exactly look like drew brees tonight.Well over 300 yds and 2 TDs. He's looking pretty good.

[theebs]

Well over 300 yds and 2 TDs. He's looking pretty good.


He sure is now. that first half was pretty rough though.

[Nors]

:pray: Please God, don't let Nors see this thread...

I'm watching the game - He has played solid.

Vet with Leadership skills and 3 rings? I want players like that on my team. And first half he was all over Moss.

[Nors]

Jets are losing game - Favre went in a shell with lead

[JonJon]

Wow, really? And that's relevant since Law has covered Gaffney on 90% of his snaps, except for a play or two where they flipped the coverage. But just ignore that point and go paste stats from nfl.com...

Nors jr.

Nors Jr.? Hahahaha you are obviously looking for a fight but you will not get one from me...sorry! Try getting a life...it's much more fun.

[Nors]

Jets need to punch it in here - game over

[Kilyin]

Nors Jr.? Hahahaha you are obviously looking for a fight but you will not get one from me...sorry! Try getting a life...it's much more fun.

just pointing out that you have no idea what you're talking about. If that's a point of contention for you, I suppose you could say it's looking for a fight, or you could just admit you don't know what you're talking about (and try watching the game instead of reading a statline).

[stasheroo]

if Ty Law is 'washed up' like I've heard every time his name was mentioned around here.

It looks to me like the guy is doing a better job after two days than Anthony Henry has done all season.

[JonJon]

just pointing out that you have no idea what you're talking about. If that's a point of contention for you, I suppose you could say it's looking for a fight, or you could just admit you don't know what you're talking about (and try watching the game instead of reading a statline).
Nope. I will stick to the stat lines on NFL.com and listen to what the announcers tell me to believe, thank you very much. By the way, Moss now has 2 catches for 10 yards.

[Kilyin]

Nope. I will stick to the stat lines on NFL.com and listen to what the announcers tell me to believe, thank you very much. By the way, Moss now has 2 catches for 10 yards.

And Ty Law has absolutely nothing to do with that, Nors jr.

[EveryoneElse]

if Ty Law is 'washed up' like I've heard every time his name was mentioned around here.

It looks to me like the guy is doing a better job after two days than Anthony Henry has done all season.


Law is Lord.

[Nors]

just pointing out that you have no idea what you're talking about. If that's a point of contention for you, I suppose you could say it's looking for a fight, or you could just admit you don't know what you're talking about (and try watching the game instead of reading a statline).

I watched the game and Law was jamming Moss most all of first half. He was solid - and looked sleek and game ready tonight.

[Kilyin]

clueless, it's not just a movie.

[BraveHeartFan]

I haven't watched teh whole game, i watched only the first half, but the only times I saw him on Moss they had safety help over the top and Cassell still missed a couple of chances, by not even looking at Randy, to beat the double coverage over the top.

The one time in the first half I saw him actually singled up on someone, it was Gaffney, and Law bailed out to a 15 yard cushion so fast that he just handed Gaffney a 10 yard out for a first down with no issue at all.

[Rampage]

And Ty Law has absolutely nothing to do with that, Nors jr.
he does have a little bit to do with that.

[stasheroo]

clueless, it's not just a movie.

Obviously...

Keep your off-target BS in the other thread.

I'm actually watching the game.

2 plays....

Pffttt....

[Kilyin]

he does have a little bit to do with that.

Law got maybe 12-15 plays. He was covering Moss once (possibly twice), and neither time did Cassel even look in that direction.

I'm not going to argue about it any more though, you guys believe what you need to believe to help you sleep at night.

[dozin_theknick]

And look what happened when he didnt have help over the top.

[Kilyin]

Obviously...

Keep your off-target BS in the other thread.

I'm actually watching the game.

2 plays....

Pffttt....

Little late to be watching it now. And you should've worn your glasses.

[Rampage]

Law got maybe 12-15 plays. He was covering Moss once (possibly twice), and neither time did Cassel even look in that direction.

I'm not going to argue about it any more though, you guys believe what you need to believe to help you sleep at night.
so if he was covering Moss a few times than he has contributed to holding him to 2 catches for 10 yards or whatever he has. which means he had a little bit to do with it.

[BraveHeartFan]

As long as those people who 'claim' they're listening to the announcers, and watching the game, reconize that they've mentioned, multiple times, that Moss has been double covered the entire night and realize that Law has not one time lined up on Moss, one on one, and did anything. He's had help over the top just like everyone else does when they play Moss, meaning he's done nothing on his own and the Jets have only done what a few teams have done this year in taking him out of the game because Matt doesn't seem to be able to hit the deep ball even when it's there.

[JonJon]

so if he was covering Moss a few times than he has contributed to holding him to 2 catches for 10 yards or whatever he has. which means he had a little bit to do with it.
It is of no use. He is obviously on an "I hate Law" agenda. Everybody that disagrees with him is a Nors Jr.

[BraveHeartFan]

HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!! The one time the ACTUALLY match Law up on him one on one he gave him nine million yards of cushion and Moss beats him for a TD.

Oh yeah. Law is awesome.

[Kilyin]

It is of no use. He is obviously on an "I hate Law" agenda. Everybody that disagrees with him is a Nors Jr.

I have the agenda, but you guys are the ones flat out making stuff up in some vain attempt to campaign for how great Ty Law is.

No, I just deal in facts.

And he was definitely covering him that time, 15 yard cushion and gave up a touchdown to tie the game. You win the internets.

[Jenky]

Law just got owned.

[Rampage]

It is of no use. He is obviously on an "I hate Law" agenda. Everybody that disagrees with him is a Nors Jr.
Law just gave up a td to Moss:laugh2: ...............:popcorn:

[dozin_theknick]

And he is Moss's ***** on that one.

[JonJon]

Law just gave up a td to Moss:laugh2: ...............:popcorn:
Aw man I missed it...I was too busy watching the stats line on NFL.com.

[Nors]

very close play - props to Moss
was reviewed

[BraveHeartFan]

Or you were too busy caressing your Ty Law fathead and missed the play.


LOL!

Not that I agree with it, or have anything against the other dude, but this did crack me up.

[Rack Bauer]

Law freakin' sucks. Anyone that doesn't see that doesn't know a dang thing about football. Yes, it's THAT obvious.

[Rampage]

yeah Law sucks. he just had good coverage and gave up a td to the best wr in the league for the past decade. but yeah he sucks.:rolleyes:

[BraveHeartFan]

Law freakin' sucks. Anyone that doesn't see that doesn't know a dang thing about football. Yes, it's THAT obvious.


I actually can't wait to see how Nors tries to spin that and make it seem like Law covered everyone one on one all night and only gave up one bad play.

The two times i saw him get actual one on one coverage tonight he gave a 15 yard cushion to Gaffney, and gave up a give me 10 yard first down grab, and then gave a 15 yard cushion to Moss and gets punked for a 16 yard TD to tie the game.

But I'm sure Nors will be here to tell everyone how awesome Law played.

[JonJon]

The funny thing is, I don't even like Ty Law! If you actually did any research you would see that. I said Dallas may have missed out seeing as how Newman may not be 100%, Henry is done, and Pacman may not be back. Keep on telling yourself that I idolize Law if you want...if that makes you feel better about yourself.

[Kilyin]

The funny thing is, I don't even like Ty Law! If you actually did any research you would see that. I said Dallas may have missed out seeing as how Newman may not be 100%, Henry is done, and Pacman may not be back. Keep on telling yourself that I idolize Law if you want...if that makes you feel better about yourself.

Yeah, you obviously don't like him. It's only documented and on display throughout this thread.

:rolleyes:

[BraveHeartFan]

yeah Law sucks. he just had good coverage and gave up a td to the best wr in the league for the past decade. but yeah he sucks.:rolleyes:

Dude he gave like a 15 yard cushion to Moss on a play that was 16 friggen yards. That's pretty pathetic, honestly.

And it's not exactly like Moss is Mr. Muscles and pushes himself into position a whole lot and Law pretty much got handled right out of position for the tieing TD.


I wouldn't say Law sucks, or that he's the worst corner in the league, nothing like that at all, but he's certainly not any better than average anymore.

[Kilyin]

yeah Law sucks. he just had good coverage and gave up a td to the best wr in the league for the past decade. but yeah he sucks.:rolleyes:

It's more to do with the fact he hasn't done much of anything the entire game except give up plays. He didn't even deflect a pass. He did force one incompletion, but it wasn't on Randy Moss. Reading some of the comments in this thread you'd think he was the second coming of Deion Sanders and shut down Moss by himself the whole night.

[Rampage]

It's more to do with the fact he hasn't done much of anything the entire game except give up plays. He didn't even deflect a pass. He did force one incompletion, but it wasn't on Randy Moss. Reading some of the comments in this thread you'd think he was the second coming of Deion Sanders.
the fact is he hasn't played all year and is still better than Anthony Henry.

[BraveHeartFan]

the fact is he hasn't played all year and is still better than Anthony Henry.

Now I might give that he's better than Henry cause Henry is average now too. I'm hoping once Newman shows that he's 100% that Jenkins and Scandrick will start playing regularly over Henry.

[Kilyin]

I had edited my fathead zinger but since someone quoted it I put it back, and now it's been ninja edited along with the quote. Party crashers.

[Hostile]

So the Jets are about to win this in OT and it'll be because they signed Law this week huh?

We've never been interested in him people. Ever.

[windward]

So the Jets are about to win this in OT and it'll be because they signed Law this week huh?

We've never been interested in him people. Ever.
Never ever?

[JonJon]

Yeah, you obviously don't like him. It's only documented and on display throughout this thread.

:rolleyes:
Since it is so well documented, point it out where I said I like Ty Law. It should be easy for you, since it is so well documented. All I said is that he did a great job on Moss. And he did, considering that he just got in off the streets and is going up against a premier talent.

[BraveHeartFan]

So the Jets are about to win this in OT and it'll be because they signed Law this week huh?

We've never been interested in him people. Ever.


Only Nors will come in here and tell everyone how Law is the reason they won and I'm sure he's got 18 threads coming to attempt to back up that claim.

His nephew told him it was so, after all.

[Hostile]

Never ever?No sir.

[JonJon]

It's more to do with the fact he hasn't done much of anything the entire game except give up plays. He didn't even deflect a pass. He did force one incompletion, but it wasn't on Randy Moss. Reading some of the comments in this thread you'd think he was the second coming of Deion Sanders and shut down Moss by himself the whole night.
Wow...speaking of over-exaggeration...

[Rampage]

No sir.
that's cause our secondary has been so good lately

[Kilyin]

Since it is so well documented, point it out where I said I like Ty Law. It should be easy for you, since it is so well documented. All I said is that he did a great job on Moss. And he did, considering that he just got in off the streets and is going up against a premier talent.

It's pointless. you just continue to ignore the fact that you're wrong and repeat the same crap over and over like it makes it true. The proof lies in the fact that you're compelled to lie and exaggerate to push your agenda.

[Kilyin]

Wow...speaking of over-exaggeration...

Look it up on your statline.

[speedkilz88]

So the Jets are about to win this in OT and it'll be because they signed Law this week huh?

We've never been interested in him people. Ever.Splitting hairs here, but I would think they were interested in him the year he was drafted. He was pretty good.;)

[JonJon]

It's pointless. you just continue to ignore the fact that you're wrong and repeat the same crap over and over like it makes it true. The proof lies in the fact that you're compelled to lie and exaggerate to push your agenda.
I have no agenda. You must really have me confused with Nors. Sorry, but I've already said that I don't even like Ty Law. You are the one pushing your Anti-law agenda. I could careless either way but you seem hell bent on proving to the world that Law is terrible. Well have at it...the stage is all yours buddy.

[stasheroo]

the fact is he hasn't played all year and is still better than Anthony Henry.

That's the point I was trying to make.

He did give up the TD to Moss, but doesn anyone want to call that bad coverage?

I mean 'Dallas Cowboys-level' bad coverage?

Fact is that it was a great throw and a great catch.

Law came in off the street and played better than Henry has all year.

If the Cowboys 'never wanted him', that's another mistake on them.

[BraveHeartFan]

Since it is so well documented, point it out where I said I like Ty Law. It should be easy for you, since it is so well documented. All I said is that he did a great job on Moss. And he did, considering that he just got in off the streets and is going up against a premier talent.


Oh yeah. He did fantastic. He matched up on him one on one exactly one time and got beat for the game tying TD on that play.

But, yeah, he did AWESOME walking in off the street and covering Moss.

[stasheroo]

Oh yeah. He did fantastic. He matched up on him one on one exactly one time and got beat for the game tying TD on that play.

But, yeah, he did AWESOME walking in off the street and covering Moss.

I take it you tuned in late and missed the first half...

[JonJon]

That's the point I was trying to make.

He did give up the TD to Moss, but doesn anyone want to call that bad coverage?

I mean 'Dallas Cowboys-level' bad coverage?

Fact is that it was a great throw and a great catch.

Law came in off the street and played better than Henry has all year.

If the Cowboys 'never wanted him', that's another mistake on them.

You better be careful....those are Deion Sanders-esq comments you are giving out....you wouldn't want to piss off Kilyin the great by saying Law actually did a good job tonight, would you?

[Kilyin]

I have no agenda. You must really have me confused with Nors. Sorry, but I've already said that I don't even like Ty Law. You are the one pushing your Anti-law agenda. I could careless either way but you seem hell bent on proving to the world that Law is terrible. Well have at it...the stage is all yours buddy.

LMAO. I just can't help myself replying to this guy.

You're the one who claims TY LAW SHUT DOWN RANDY MOSS. I'm not going to quote it again, that's been done already. As I said, go back and reread the thread.

All I've done is dispute that, because anyone with half a brain can see that's not even close to the truth.

[stasheroo]

You better be careful....those are Deion Sanders-esq comments you are giving out....you wouldn't want to piss of Kilyin the great by saying Law actually did a good job tonight, would you?

Let him exaggerate it he needs it to make his point.

Nobody called him 'Sanders' but him.

I just said the guy came in off the street and did a good job.

Better than some guys who have been in Dallas all season.

[Hostile]

Splitting hairs here, but I would think they were interested in him the year he was drafted. He was pretty good.;)I will take that bet.

He was drafted in 1995. During that off season we signed Deion Sanders to play CB opposite Kevin Smith and we did not have a 1st round pick in the 1995 Draft. I doubt we thought he'd fall to the 2nd round though it would have saved us from Sherman Williams if it was true.

No interest.

[BraveHeartFan]

I take it you tuned in late and missed the first half...

Nope watched the first half and while I was watching, and noticing the safety over the top to help him out, the announcers also mentioned that he had over the top help by the safety every time he lined up on Moss in that first half.

His ONLY one on one coverage in the first half came after they switched him off Moss, and to the other side of the field, and on his very first coverage of the game, one on one, he was on Gaffney and he dropped out and gave Gaffney a 15 yard cushion and gave up a give me 10 yard out for a first down completion.

So there you go. That's what you get for assuming.

[BraveHeartFan]

I will take that bet.

He was drafted in 1995. During that off season we signed Deion Sanders to play CB opposite Kevin Smith and we did not have a 1st round pick in the 1995 Draft. I doubt we thought he'd fall to the 2nd round though it would have saved us from Sherman Williams if it was true.

No interest.


LOL! Smacked them down with knowledge once more.

[JonJon]

LMAO. I just can't help myself replying to this guy.

You're the one who claims TY LAW SHUT DOWN RANDY MOSS. I'm not going to quote it again, that's been done already. As I said, go back and reread the thread.

All I've done is dispute that, because anyone with half a brain can see that's not even close to the truth.

Moss was shutdown until he got that last reception, which was a great play on his part. But keep telling yourself that Law was giving up plays all night long. The stats don't lie, unless you have an anti-Law agenda.

[windward]

I will take that bet.

He was drafted in 1995. During that off season we signed Deion Sanders to play CB opposite Kevin Smith and we did not have a 1st round pick in the 1995 Draft. I doubt we thought he'd fall to the 2nd round though it would have saved us from Sherman Williams if it was true.

No interest.
Didn't we sign Deion in September, though?

[Hostile]

Didn't we sign Deion in September, though?Valid point, yes we did.

[Nors]

Jets won -

Booked, shut it down mods

[Kilyin]

Moss was shutdown until he got that last reception, which was a great play on his part. But keep telling yourself that Law was giving up plays all night long. The stats don't lie, unless you have an anti-Law agenda.

Keep telling yourself Ty Law was shutting down Randy Moss all night, Corky.

:lmao:

[Bob Sacamano]

Keep telling yourself Ty Law was shutting down Randy Moss all night, Corky.

:lmao:

I expected better from you



you are usually much harsher

[Kilyin]

I expected better from you



you are usually much harsher

Gets deleted by the mods, this board is G rated. You know this.

going to sleep.

[EveryoneElse]

Keep telling yourself Ty Law was shutting down Randy Moss all night, Corky.

:lmao:


Would that be Corky from, Life goes on? If so, :laugh2: :laugh2: :laugh2:

[bbgun]

I will take that bet.

He was drafted in 1995. During that off season we signed Deion Sanders to play CB opposite Kevin Smith and we did not have a 1st round pick in the 1995 Draft. I doubt we thought he'd fall to the 2nd round though it would have saved us from Sherman Williams if it was true.

No interest.


Actually, we signed him to replace the injured Kevin Smith.

[Ren]

Matt Cassel threw for like 400 yards lol Law sure made a big difference in the Jets pass defense :laugh2:

[mperfection]

So the Jets are about to win this in OT and it'll be because they signed Law this week huh?

We've never been interested in him people. Ever.

And that's supposed to be to our "virtue"?:rolleyes:

As someone has said already on this thread, Law not having played all season > Henry.

[EveryoneElse]

Hmmm...

Every time the Patriots lose, Nors goes into hiding for a day or so, or at least it seems that way.

Hmmm...

Ty Law is washed up.

[SDogo]

We should trade Glover and Coakley for Law.

Seriously

[dbair1967]

Ty law wouldn't have been a nice veteran addition to this team. He signed on tuesday and is out their in Randy Moss grill tonight.....Amazing. The guy still has the smarts and the savvy to add something to a contending team. Great signing by the jets for the strecth run.

didnt Matt Cassell throw for 400 yds, 3 tds and no picks? THATS MATT CASSELL

Yeah, Ty Law really made an impact, clearly we couldnt have done without him

[Hostile]

And that's supposed to be to our "virtue"?:rolleyes:

As someone has said already on this thread, Law not having played all season > Henry.I never said the guy can't play. He's a topic here only because of a bogus rumor that we tried to trade for him in 2004. There is no truth to that rumor at all.

Let me remind people that in 2004 when Steven Jackson was there for the taking that our very own Dale was right there at Valley Ranch covering the Draft. As our pick approached and we were all excited that Steven Jackson had fallen into our laps, Dale, in the chat room, reported that he heard Parcells say this...

I don't want to deal with the ****ing Postons.

At that point we all knew that we were not going to take Jackson but many of us thought it would therefore be Kevin Jnoes, the other top rated back. The trade with the Rams floored many of us.

Someone on this board who has pimped Law to the point of aggravation has said that one round later we tried to make a trade for Ty Law. Who is he represented by? If you said Carl Poston, congratulations. You earn a cookie.

The infatuation with Ty Law has never stopped since that day as thread after thread of what we passed up to take Jacob Rogers has littered this forum. That's right litter. The kind a kitty uses. Ty Law is a pet cat, nothing more.

The other day the same poster told me via e-mail that had Scott Pioli not held out for a #1 pick we would have made that trade. That is a complete change from the previous prevarication that he shared. Especially since we did in fact trade our #1 pick.

Ask yourself this, why did no member of the 2004 DFW media ever report that we tried to acquire him? Why did no National media member ever report it? They all report every whisper. Answer, they all knew is was a pure doodoo and they would not sully their reputations by reporting it. Make no mistake about it, DFW media members do read here from time to time. They saw the reports. They checked up on the story.

None reported it. Ask any one of them that you wish if we ever made overtures for Law in 2004 with our 2nd Round Draft pick that turned out to be Jacob Rogers. (Yet never offered the 2nd round pick from the Rams that we used to take Julius Jones, despite now having heard offers for our #1 pick. How conveniently the author of this lie forgets.) They will tell you that we never did. Ever.

Virtue in that? I have no idea. I'm not looking for moral victories. I'm talking about the truth. If we had traded for him considering the money he always demands could we have acquired and re-signed some of our players? Doubtful.

I have also told people that I contacted someone very high up with the Cowboys and asked him directly. His exact words to me question if there was any truth to this Internet rumor were, "none at all."

If you want to hold out hope that we will ever be interested in Ty Law, be my guest. PT Barnum always needs more people to prove he was right.

One day I may get fed up and post a poll to see how many people truly believe we have ever had any interest in Ty Law. If it is more than 1 poster I swear I will laugh until I crack my ribs.

[Temo]

This post sure got funny quickly. Let this be a reminder to everyone: don't make threads in the middle of a game, you never know how it will turn out (even to the point of 400 yards passing and a game-tying 4th down TD pass to the guy your man is covering... heh).

[stasheroo]

This sounds like more of a problem with the 'Fountain of Misinformation' Nors than it does with Ty Law the player.

I had no knowledge that the scenario you mentioned had ever taken place (or more accurately, not taken place).

My interest in the subject was that I thought the Cowboys could use some veteran help at cornerback given their injuries/suspensions and that Law could help provide that.

That's as far as it went with me.

I then watched a guy last night who was on the street just days earlier and I thought he did a good job for the Jets.

He wasn't Deion good, but I thought he played well overall.

Hopefully with Newman's return, it will quickly become a moot point.

[Kilyin]

I will concede Law is probably a better player than Henry.

I took issue with people (jdumb2k4) claiming he was shutting down Moss all by his lonesome.

I did miss most of the first half, but from what I saw Law wasn't on the field a good majority of the time. And the only times I saw him line up on Moss aside from the game tying TD he gave up; was when they flipped the coverage (thereby putting Law on Moss instead of Gaffney) and Collinsworth mentioned it. After that is when all the posts about how magnificent Law was for shutting down Moss for the entirety of the game started spawning.

From what I understand Law was just playing part time corner and was only on the field for about 15 or so plays.

[Hostile]

This sounds like more of a problem with the 'Fountain of Misinformation' Nors than it does with Ty Law the player.

I had no knowledge that the scenario you mentioned had ever taken place (or more accurately, not taken place).

My interest in the subject was that I thought the Cowboys could use some veteran help at cornerback given their injuries/suspensions and that Law could help provide that.

That's as far as it went with me.

I then watched a guy last night who was on the street just days earlier and I thought he did a good job for the Jets.

He wasn't Deion good, but I thought he played well overall.

Hopefully with Newman's return, it will quickly become a moot point.That is exactly the problem with it. Every time a CB missed an assignment we had a new thread. People got fed up. No one who has been around this forum since its inception wants to hear about Ty Law coming to Dallas.

[stasheroo]

I will concede Law is probably a better player than Henry.

I took issue with people (jdumb2k4) claiming he was shutting down Moss all by his lonesome.

I did miss most of the first half, but from what I saw Law wasn't on the field a good majority of the time. And the only times I saw him line up on Moss aside from the game tying TD he gave up; was when they flipped the coverage (thereby putting Law on Moss instead of Gaffney) and Collinsworth mentioned it. After that is when all the posts about how magnificent Law was for shutting down Moss for the entirety of the game started spawning.

From what I understand Law was just playing part time corner and was only on the field for about 15 or so plays.

If the claim was he was shutting down Moss by himself, that certainly wasn't accurate.

He was harrassing Moss off the line and covering him with help over the top.

But in that capcaity, I thought he was doing a good job.

Especially for just getting back on the field.

[stasheroo]

That is exactly the problem with it. Every time a CB missed an assignment we had a new thread. People got fed up. No one who has been around this forum since its inception wants to hear about Ty Law coming to Dallas.

I'd take that up with Nors.

I didn't have anything to do with his false rumor-mongering.

I just saw an experienced player who I thought could help this team.

I'm a victim of circumstance I tell ya!

[Double Trouble]

Actually, we signed him to replace the injured Kevin Smith.I remember Barry Switzer begging Jerry Jones at a press conference to get Deion after Kevin Smith blew his achilles in the Giants game.

[stasheroo]

I remember Barry Switzer begging Jerry Jones at a press conference to get Deion after Kevin Smith blew his achilles in the Giants game.

Was that a press conference or a Pizza Hut commercial?

Heck, maybe it was a Nike commercial?

:confused:

[Hostile]

I'd take that up with Nors.

I didn't have anything to do with his false rumor-mongering.

I just saw an experienced player who I thought could help this team.

I'm a victim of circumstance I tell ya!We have. Dozens of times. It's just Pavlov's dog. We're conditioned to hating hearing about him.

[stasheroo]

We have. Dozens of times. It's just Pavlov's dog. We're conditioned to hating hearing about him.

Oh.

I had no idea.

This must be difficult for you.

Hopefully, now that he's signed with the Jets these threads will die down a bit.

(after this one of course)

[cowboyjoe]

Thats my point like one guy posted, from being off of the streets, not being in training camp, i thought law did well. Now did he dominate Moss No, because he had help over the top.

Basically, the jets did to Randy Moss, what teams have been doing to T O. They jammed him at the line of scrimmage, just like shawn springs jammed T O in first cowboys redskin game, but springs had help over the top, just like in the jets game last night, with law jamming moss.

Thats what i was asking about having Law in if the contract price wasnt too big, then you could move Henry to free safety, and play Hamlin at SS.

Till maybe Jenkins or scandrick stepped up as a pure corner. Or the Cowboys got adam jones back if he is allowed back in the NFL.

Thats why I was asking, and most of the zoners said no, he is too slow, but Law is a good jammer at the line of scrimmage, and he knows routes.

Thats what Law is good at.

That was a very good post Hostile, and i didnt know that about ty law, parcells, so thanks for clearing that up for me.

[JPM]

I never said the guy can't play. He's a topic here only because of a bogus rumor that we tried to trade for him in 2004. There is no truth to that rumor at all.

Let me remind people that in 2004 when Steven Jackson was there for the taking that our very own Dale was right there at Valley Ranch covering the Draft. As our pick approached and we were all excited that Steven Jackson had fallen into our laps, Dale, in the chat room, reported that he heard Parcells say this...



At that point we all knew that we were not going to take Jackson but many of us thought it would therefore be Kevin Smith, the other top rated back. The trade with the Rams floored many of us.

Not to drag this discussion off topic, but you meant Kevin Jones from VT right Hos ? I had heard he's the RB Parcells really wanted out of that draft.

[Hostile]

Not to drag this discussion off topic, but you meant Kevin Jones from VT right Hos ? I had heard he's the RB Parcells really wanted out of that draft.Nice catch, thank you. Fixed it. Yes, it was reported that Parcells wanted to trade back up into the 1st round to take him.

[Temo]

I'd take that up with Nors.

I didn't have anything to do with his false rumor-mongering.

I just saw an experienced player who I thought could help this team.

I'm a victim of circumstance I tell ya!

The reason the Jets signed him is because this is their roster of DBs:

36 Barrett, David (http://www.nfl.com/players/davidbarrett/profile?id=BAR591346) CB ACT 5'10" 195 12/22/1977 9 Arkansas 30 Coleman, Drew (http://www.nfl.com/players/drewcoleman/profile?id=COL258913) CB ACT 5'9" 175 4/22/1983 3 Texas Christian 34 Lowery, Dwight (http://www.nfl.com/players/dwightlowery/profile?id=LOW556220) CB ACT 5'11" 201 1/23/1986 0 San Jose State 24 Revis, Darrelle (http://www.nfl.com/players/darrellerevis/profile?id=REV515344) CB ACT 5'11" 204 7/14/1985 2 Pittsburgh 31 Carroll, Ahmad (http://www.nfl.com/players/ahmadcarroll/profile?id=CAR504211) DB ACT 5'10" 190 8/4/1983 4 Arkansas 44 Ihedigbo, James (http://www.nfl.com/players/jamesihedigbo/profile?id=IHE148317) DB ACT 6'1" 202 12/3/1983 2 Massachusetts
Law, Ty (http://www.nfl.com/players/tylaw/profile?id=LAW121836) DB ACT 5'11" 200 2/10/1974 14 Michigan 23 Poteat, Hank (http://www.nfl.com/players/hankpoteat/profile?id=POT055371) DB ACT 5'10" 195 8/30/1977 8 Pittsburgh

Even with Ty Law, the Jets gave up 400 yards to MATT CASSEL. The most pass yards the Cowboys have given up this year is 259, to the Eagles. When the Cowboys faces the Tom Brady Pats last year, they gave up 373 yards passing. The closest I can get to 400 yards passing given up by the Cowboys is 398 in 2005 against the seahawks (43-39 win).

The last time the Cowboys gave up that many passing yards was in 1998, 448 passing yards in a 35-28 win against the cardinals.

[Cowboys2008]

I've been for Ty Law since Parcells first year with us, or whenever it was he first became available after the Pats. Lol.

[Joe Rod]

Moss was shutdown until he got that last reception, which was a great play on his part. But keep telling yourself that Law was giving up plays all night long. The stats don't lie, unless you have an anti-Law agenda.

I have to assume that you did not watch the game after reading your comments.

Why would Cassell try to throw to Moss and a double coverage gameplan when Watson was wide open for the majority of the night and Welker was allowed to run into the middle of the field with only single coverage????? Answer, he would not, instead opting for throwing for a mere 400 YARDS. Only an absolute nimrod would try to force into double coverage when there are other receivers not being covered, period.

With the Safety so concerned about Moss, it left the middle of the field wide open the entire game, hence the reason why Cassell lead the Pats in rushing yardage. Once again, why force into double coverage when the Jets are giving you almost eight free yards.

If you are claiming that Law shut Moss down, someone else could easily claim that Law was such a liability that the Jets were forced to provide help and the Defense was shredded bacause of it.

By the way, there were several times where Moss had broken containment and Cassell just could not get him the ball due to being horrible at throwing over twenty yards. He overthrew Moss once on a walk-in touchdown.

[stasheroo]

By the way, there were several times where Moss had broken containment and Cassell just could not get him the ball due to being horrible at throwing over twenty yards. He overthrew Moss once on a walk-in touchdown.

Regarding the specific play you're referencing, Ty Law was not covering Moss.

[cowboyjoe]

well im glad parcells couldnt trade back up to get kevin jones, julius jones is a super star compared to kevin jones, and julius jones is no super star

[stasheroo]

well im glad parcells couldnt trade back up to get kevin jones, julius jones is a super star compared to kevin jones, and julius jones is no super star

lose-lose scenario

But we've re-hashed the whole Jones/Spears vs Steven Jackson thing to death.

:bang2:

[Joe Rod]

Regarding the specific play you're referencing, Ty Law was not covering Moss.

No kidding, but the donkey keeps stating Moss's stats like it is some big thing so I wanted to point it out. If Brady was back under Center, the Pats would have hung fifty on the Jets.

[BraveHeartFan]

If the claim was he was shutting down Moss by himself, that certainly wasn't accurate.

He was harrassing Moss off the line and covering him with help over the top.

But in that capcaity, I thought he was doing a good job.

Especially for just getting back on the field.

Now this I agree with. He looked good for what he did but what he did is what every single, average corner, in the NFL does against a star reciever. They play with help over the top so that they don't have to worry about getting crushed deep.

That makes him better than an average guy like Henry but it hardly makes him a world beater who 'shut down Moss' by himself, as a few here were trying to claim.


I have to assume that you did not watch the game after reading your comments.

Why would Cassell try to throw to Moss and a double coverage gameplan when Watson was wide open for the majority of the night and Welker was allowed to run into the middle of the field with only single coverage????? Answer, he would not, instead opting for throwing for a mere 400 YARDS. Only an absolute nimrod would try to force into double coverage when there are other receivers not being covered, period.

With the Safety so concerned about Moss, it left the middle of the field wide open the entire game, hence the reason why Cassell lead the Pats in rushing yardage. Once again, why force into double coverage when the Jets are giving you almost eight free yards.

If you are claiming that Law shut Moss down, someone else could easily claim that Law was such a liability that the Jets were forced to provide help and the Defense was shredded bacause of it.

By the way, there were several times where Moss had broken containment and Cassell just could not get him the ball due to being horrible at throwing over twenty yards. He overthrew Moss once on a walk-in touchdown.

This, exactly, tells the story. Perfectly explained.