The coming storm...

[ThaBigP]

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/11/30/AR2008113002217_pf.html

Anybody else see the clouds brewing? Or have for some time? This isn't an Obama vs. Bush bash either...the apparatus of the imposition of unprecedented Federal power will have been constructed by Bush, and passed on to Obama. The bailout, which was really a takeover of most of the financial industry. The hidden money, all backed up by your and my hard work, being printed on presses or just made up in the digitized monetary system. Now this. You see, when you have a debt, you pledge labor. Future labor...for labor rendered now. When the US comes up short of cash, and runs up huge debt...and individuals buy items made with pseudo-slave labor around the world in exchange for a bunch of little green notes that are a pledge to return the favor with like labor... That means we don't have enough labor to support the amount of currency in circulation around the world. You do the math...
:jackpot:

[Maikeru-sama]

Just another extension of the Police State.

The only reason why we supposedly NEED 20,000 troops because the National Guard is overseas fighting and policing the world, when all of them should be here in the continental United States.

Fear has always been the main mechanism used by Governments to slowly but surely marginalize the Citizens and becoming ever more powerful.

Like I stated before, there is not much difference between the two men in the picture below. One covertly makes the Government more powerful and the other tells you right up front that the Government is going to get bigger.

http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/gawker/2008/11/obamabushh.jpg

[burmafrd]

maikeru you might want to do a little research before you post.
A) on the actual amount of NG deployed
B) on the tecnical reasons why regular forces would be a smarter idea then reserves for those duties.

[DIAF]

maikeru you might want to do a little research before you post.
A) on the actual amount of NG deployed
B) on the tecnical reasons why regular forces would be a smarter idea then reserves for those duties.

The OP might also want to keep this in one thread. Not 15 different ones.

[VCDefectors]

There's sort of a misnomer about the government running up debt or 'printing more money'. That is, it's not that the government just sits there and creates more money on its own, but it actually has to borrow money, in the sense that it creates more treasury bills, government bonds, etc. and sells them to investors, foreign governments, and the like.

I'm not sure if this amount alot to making a difference to the average American consumer, but it does go to show that the national debt figures do, in fact, mean something.

[Sasquatch]

The OP might also want to keep this in one thread. Not 15 different ones.

I think he imagines himself performing a valuable public service disseminating this information through all channels.

[burmafrd]

So much of whats going on is actually more of appearences and perception then actual nuts and bolts.
The modern business and financial world is so inter connected and inter dependent that any references to the 1930's is totally ridiculous.
Now as regards to money being digitized that has been going on for 30+ years.

[JiggsCasey]

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/11/30/AR2008113002217_pf.html

Anybody else see the clouds brewing? Or have for some time? This isn't an Obama vs. Bush bash either...the apparatus of the imposition of unprecedented Federal power will have been constructed by Bush, and passed on to Obama. The bailout, which was really a takeover of most of the financial industry. The hidden money, all backed up by your and my hard work, being printed on presses or just made up in the digitized monetary system. Now this. You see, when you have a debt, you pledge labor. Future labor...for labor rendered now. When the US comes up short of cash, and runs up huge debt...and individuals buy items made with pseudo-slave labor around the world in exchange for a bunch of little green notes that are a pledge to return the favor with like labor... That means we don't have enough labor to support the amount of currency in circulation around the world. You do the math...
:jackpot:

Finally, someone not in denial.

This country has been hijacked. ... And no one seems to care...

Get out of the stock market, ... Get out of debt as soon as possible... invest in metals.... Or ignore the advice, laugh it off, and see where we are in 1 year.

"Slavery is likely to be abolished by the war power and all chattel slavery abolished. This I and my European friends are in favor of, for slavery is but the owning of labor and carries with it the care of the laborers while the European plan, led on by England, is that capital shall control labor by controlling wages. The great debt that capitalists will see to it is made out of the war, must be used as a means to control the volume of money. To accomplish this the bonds must be used as a banking basis. We are now waiting for the Secretary of the Treasury to make this recommendation to Congress. It will not do to allow the greenback, as it is called, to circulate as money any length of time, as we cannot control that. But we can control the bonds and through them the bank issues."

- Hazard Circular, 1862

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[JiggsCasey]

So much of whats going on is actually more of appearences and perception then actual nuts and bolts.
The modern business and financial world is so inter connected and inter dependent that any references to the 1930's is totally ridiculous.
Now as regards to money being digitized that has been going on for 30+ years.

You're awesome... The material you leave behind in your wake is fantastic... It's like batting practice...

Paulson & Bernanke warned Bush that US could face a depression worse than the Great Depression (http://financial-information-updates.blogspot.com/2008/12/paulson-bernanke-warned-bush-that-us.html)