2009 Mock Draft, Version 1.0

[Hostile]

I am not going to project any trades even though I doubt we keep all 11 Draft picks.

2nd. Phil Loadholt, OT, Oklahoma, 6'8", 350. A total eclipse of the sun. It amazes me that he is projected in the 2nd round, but I will capitalize on that for now. Part of an amazing O-line. I'd like to get his linemate Duke Robinson at LG more than almost any other player in this Draft, but he is going round 1.

3rd from Cleveland. Sean Smith, SS, Utah, 6'3", 214. Can play CB or S. Had 5 picks in 2008 and returned 1 for a score. Broke up 8 passes. Big, physical and comes to play every down.

4th from Detroit. Daniel Holtzclaw, ILB, Eastern Michigan, 6'1", 245. A tackling machine. 4 year starter. Natural leader.

4th. Anthony Parker, OG, Tennessee, 6'3", 305. 39 career starts in the SEC. 2nd team all SEC. Improves depth and could develop.

5th. Ron Brace, NT, Boston College, 6'3", 330. Collpases the LOS. 7.5 TFL and 2.5 sacks. Ratliff is going to stay at NT after earning Pro Bowl honors. This is a solid backup with future potential.

5th from Tennessee. Kevin Barnes, CB, Maryland, 6'1", 188. Would be higher if not for a shoulder injury. Could provide solid depth. Much better locker room character than Pacman.

Compensatory 5th. Rhett Bomar, QB, Sam Houston State, 6'2", 218. It is time to develop some QB depth. A good 3rd string QB who could develop for the future. Talent is not a question. Accepted money from a booster and got expelled. No boosters in the NFL.

6th from Miami. Andrew Gardner, OT, Georgia Tech. 6'6", 298. Used to open holes for Choice. We need depth across the OL.

Compensatory 6th. Pat White, WR/KR, West Virginia, 6'2", 189. A low risk gamble in the 6th round. Undeniable speed and elusiveness. Will replace one of the WRs. A project, but with possible big dividends.

7th from Detroit. Dallas Reynolds, C, BYU, 6'5", 328. Depth across OL is needed badly. Don't even try to argue with me about his name. Fits this team.

7th. Brandon Underwood, FS, Cincinnati, 6'1", 190. Too many injuries at S in 2008. Gotta be more prepared. Had 3 INTs and a score plus 6 pass breakups. Finds the ball.


By all means feel free to cuss it and discuss it.

[Chris in Arizona]

Not bad. One of the btter mocks I've seen for us.

I like the Big Phil, Sean Smith, Ron Brace, and Holtzclaw picks especially.

Pat White, another converted QB?.. Oh nooooo.

Besides, I can't really support any draft that doesn't have us miraculously trading up and acquiring this guy (look down)

[Dcowboy84]

it looks good to me. granted i don't know a lot about some of the guys you have in there, but you covered all the needs we have.

the only change i would make is that i would like to get another DE/LB pass rusher b/c Ellis won't be around much longer and we don't have much depth at that spot.

[Goldenrichards83]

Great draft. Love the oline picks. I personally think Flozell is done and we can definately add some youth to this group. I doubt that Brace will last that long, he is a guy I am hoping we take a shot at.

[DaBoys4Life]

Really nice mock HoS. It address all of our issue's. I think you missed on of the compensation picks.

[Hostile]

Great draft. Love the oline picks. I personally think Flozell is done and we can definately add some youth to this group. I doubt that Brace will last that long, he is a guy I am hoping we take a shot at.
Brace and Holtzclaw are my favorite picks in that list. I like both a lot.

Sean Smith might be the 2nd round pick if someone like Loadholt is gone. Then I'd be looking OT at that spot.

[Hostile]

Really nice mock HoS. It address all of our issue's. I think you missed on of the compensation picks.Adam think we will only have 2. That we won't get one for Nate Jones.

[JIMMYBUFFETT]

I like . Love the Pat White pick . He's going to be a heck of a ?? for somebody . I think the 4th or 5th is the perfect time to take a QB , but I'm afraid Bomar will be long gone . He's a heck of a player , and after the combine and workouts , I'm afraid he'll go as high as early 2nd round .

[Bob Sacamano]

I like it
although the 4th seems a bit high for Holtzclaw

[Bigdog]

Love this draft especially Smith from Utah and Brace. I am high on Brace but I do not think he will last until the 5th round. In fact I will be pretty surprise if he does and it would be a steal. i think he goes in the 3rd round. A very solid draft. If it happens like this I would be extremely happy.

[Oh_Canada]

Like this alot though like BigDog I don't see Brace going that late, but we'll have to see. I really like your thinking on the Barnes pick....he could end up being a steal.

[Sasquatch]

Looking at your draft would give one the impression that you think something's wrong with our OL. :)

[Hostile]

Looking at your draft would give one the impression that you think something's wrong with our OL. :)Too many things to count.

[BigBoy63]

Great Mock

[SanTexCowboy]

Loadholt had a lot of problems with Orakpo when Oklahoma played Texas. IMO he has problems with speedy DE's, but may be a great one in the NFL though.

[Rush 2112]

I am not going to project any trades even though I doubt we keep all 11 Draft picks.

2nd. Phil Loadholt, OT, Oklahoma, 6'8", 350. A total eclipse of the sun. It amazes me that he is projected in the 2nd round, but I will capitalize on that for now. Part of an amazing O-line. I'd like to get his linemate Duke Robinson at LG more than almost any other player in this Draft, but he is going round 1.

3rd from Cleveland. Sean Smith, SS, Utah, 6'3", 214. Can play CB or S. Had 5 picks in 2008 and returned 1 for a score. Broke up 8 passes. Big, physical and comes to play every down.

4th from Detroit. Daniel Holtzclaw, ILB, Eastern Michigan, 6'1", 245. A tackling machine. 4 year starter. Natural leader.

4th. Anthony Parker, OG, Tennessee, 6'3", 305. 39 career starts in the SEC. 2nd team all SEC. Improves depth and could develop.

5th. Ron Brace, NT, Boston College, 6'3", 330. Collpases the LOS. 7.5 TFL and 2.5 sacks. Ratliff is going to stay at NT after earning Pro Bowl honors. This is a solid backup with future potential.

5th from Tennessee. Kevin Barnes, CB, Maryland, 6'1", 188. Would be higher if not for a shoulder injury. Could provide solid depth. Much better locker room character than Pacman.

Compensatory 5th. Rhett Bomar, QB, Sam Houston State, 6'2", 218. It is time to develop some QB depth. A good 3rd string QB who could develop for the future. Talent is not a question. Accepted money from a booster and got expelled. No boosters in the NFL.

6th from Miami. Andrew Gardner, OT, Georgia Tech. 6'6", 298. Used to open holes for Choice. We need depth across the OL.

Compensatory 6th. Pat White, WR/KR, West Virginia, 6'2", 189. A low risk gamble in the 6th round. Undeniable speed and elusiveness. Will replace one of the WRs. A project, but with possible big dividends.

7th from Detroit. Dallas Reynolds, C, BYU, 6'5", 328. Depth across OL is needed badly. Don't even try to argue with me about his name. Fits this team.

7th. Brandon Underwood, FS, Cincinnati, 6'1", 190. Too many injuries at S in 2008. Gotta be more prepared. Had 3 INTs and a score plus 6 pass breakups. Finds the ball.


By all means feel free to cuss it and discuss it.

Loadholt, Brace, Pat White 3 of my favorites.

Zack Follett (if he can play ILB) is another. Plays 3-4 OLB at CAL.

2) Traded for 3 and 4 (ala James Marten trade down)

3a) Traded for 3 and 4 ( ala Jason Hatcher trade down)

3b) Pat White WR

3c) Zack Follett ILB

4a) Ron Brace NT

4b) Alex Boone OT

4c) Joe Burnett CB/PR

4d) Eric Wood OC

5a) Phillip Hunt OLB

5b) Worrell Williams ILB

6a) Mitch King DT

Who knows in 7

If we can't pull those trades off........

Find a way to get Loadholt, White, Follett, and Brace & I am happy.

I think Pat White could go as high as 2 if he works out well at WR.

[Biggems]

I am not going to project any trades even though I doubt we keep all 11 Draft picks.

2nd. Phil Loadholt, OT, Oklahoma, 6'8", 350. A total eclipse of the sun. It amazes me that he is projected in the 2nd round, but I will capitalize on that for now. Part of an amazing O-line. I'd like to get his linemate Duke Robinson at LG more than almost any other player in this Draft, but he is going round 1.

3rd from Cleveland. Sean Smith, SS, Utah, 6'3", 214. Can play CB or S. Had 5 picks in 2008 and returned 1 for a score. Broke up 8 passes. Big, physical and comes to play every down.

4th from Detroit. Daniel Holtzclaw, ILB, Eastern Michigan, 6'1", 245. A tackling machine. 4 year starter. Natural leader.

4th. Anthony Parker, OG, Tennessee, 6'3", 305. 39 career starts in the SEC. 2nd team all SEC. Improves depth and could develop.

5th. Ron Brace, NT, Boston College, 6'3", 330. Collpases the LOS. 7.5 TFL and 2.5 sacks. Ratliff is going to stay at NT after earning Pro Bowl honors. This is a solid backup with future potential.

5th from Tennessee. Kevin Barnes, CB, Maryland, 6'1", 188. Would be higher if not for a shoulder injury. Could provide solid depth. Much better locker room character than Pacman.

Compensatory 5th. Rhett Bomar, QB, Sam Houston State, 6'2", 218. It is time to develop some QB depth. A good 3rd string QB who could develop for the future. Talent is not a question. Accepted money from a booster and got expelled. No boosters in the NFL.

6th from Miami. Andrew Gardner, OT, Georgia Tech. 6'6", 298. Used to open holes for Choice. We need depth across the OL.

Compensatory 6th. Pat White, WR/KR, West Virginia, 6'2", 189. A low risk gamble in the 6th round. Undeniable speed and elusiveness. Will replace one of the WRs. A project, but with possible big dividends.

7th from Detroit. Dallas Reynolds, C, BYU, 6'5", 328. Depth across OL is needed badly. Don't even try to argue with me about his name. Fits this team.

7th. Brandon Underwood, FS, Cincinnati, 6'1", 190. Too many injuries at S in 2008. Gotta be more prepared. Had 3 INTs and a score plus 6 pass breakups. Finds the ball.


By all means feel free to cuss it and discuss it.

Loadholt is a goliath of a man. However, he is similar to Flozell in that he gets owned by speed rushers. Orakpo made him look like a statue in the RRR. Look for Florida to exploit him tonight. I do think, he would make a better RT than a LT. If we got him, so be it, but he isn't my favorite. I can't think of another Tackle I would take in the 2nd round, since you have the 4-5 first rounders, Loadholt in the 2nd, and then everyone else drops off into the 4-7 rounds. If he is there, I want DE/OLB Conner Barwin from Cincinnati.

I like the Sean Smith pick....kudos on this one. He is my sleeper pick at safety, since the only draft site I have seen him on is WalterFootball.com

I definitely like the Holtzclaw pick....I would be stoked if we got him to play next to James.

I don't know much about Anthony Parker, but I do know that Tennessee has had some pretty lean years as of late. I am not impressed with anyone from TU. I would rather go after Dockery, Fanaika, Vasquez, or the kid from BYU.

I like Ron Brace. He would be an excellent pick in the 5th round. I think he could go as early as the beginning of the 4th round. If we were to get him in the 5th, I would be stoked.

I know nothing of Kevin Barnes. I cannot comment on whether or not I like him. However, there are 2 CBs who I have at the top of my list that I would love for the Cowboys to draft. Joe Burnett from UCF is an interception machine. He is a definite ballhawk, something our secondary needs. Mark Parson of Ohio is a technician. He is about fundamentals and precision. He is definitely a student of the game. If we could somehow snag both, I would be super pumped about our secondary with Newman, Jenkins, Scandrick, Burnett, and Parson.

Bomar is a very good QB. Maybe that incident at OU has humbled him. Although I feel he was a bonehead for accepting the stuff and should have known it was shady, I do not completely blame him. These boosters and such need to keep their hands off the players and stop risking NCAA violations. He had a solid career at SHSU. Still, since Colt has decided to stay at UT, the QB I want in this draft is Mike Reilly of Central Washington. He has been consistently in the mid-60s with his completion percentage. He has improved his yardage every year. He has an excellent TD-INT ratio. He can run with the ball, is elusive in the pocket, and can take some punishment and come back for more. Plus, he can probably be had in the 6th or 7th round.......well not if he blows up at the combine.

Andrew Gardner is small. But, if we did actually hire Shanahan, he would be the perfect size for the zone blocking scheme. I forget his name, but there is a tackle out of Dixie State, who has some nice size and runs a sub 5 forty. He is slated to be a 7th rounder or UDFA. I would take a flyer on him if we had a comp pick in the 7th.

Not sure what to think about Pat White. He is one fast dude for sure. He can also play QB. If we desperately needed a 3rd QB, he could be it, without having to do the emergency QB nonsense. If we are drafting him at WR.....I would prefer that kid from Penn State....Deon Butler, or UTs Quan Cosby (great slot option and KR).

Dallas Reynolds is a great pick. He can play all 5 OL positions. I love his versatility. Plus, going to BYU, I will assume he has some brains.

I know nothing of Brandon Underwood. I do know Cincy has a very nice defense. I do like Darcel McBath of TT late in the draft. He is a ballhawking centerfielder of a safety, and can hit pretty well too.

[Hostile]

I forget his name, but there is a tackle out of Dixie State, who has some nice size and runs a sub 5 forty. He is slated to be a 7th rounder or UDFA. I would take a flyer on him if we had a comp pick in the 7th.
Are you talking about Ryan Delrosal?

[Biggems]

Are you talking about Ryan Delrosal?

Thats him....

[Bob Sacamano]

Thats him....

I prefer Cornelius Lewis of Tennessee State

Florida State transfer, didn't allow a sack in '08

[locked&loaded]

oline is a must.idk about smith id prefera ballhawk. when cb/s get that big they lose quickness in hips etc.

[Biggems]

These are the players I like the most...unfortunately, I think some of them overlap on the value board. I did not include anyone who I feel has a legit 1st round grade. The number in () is the number of players I want at that position.

QB (1)
Mike Reilly

RB/FB
Javorskie Lane

WR
Hakeem Nicks
Quan Cosby
Deon Butler

TE
Davon Drew

OL (3)
C Jonathan Luigs
C Eric Wood
G Cedric Dockery
G Louis Vasquez
G Herman Johnson
T Ryan Delrosal
OL Dallas Reynolds
OL Cornelius Lewis

DT (2)
Ron Brace
Sammie Lee Hill

DE
Roy Miller

OLB (2)
Connor Barwin
Phillip Hunt
Kenny Mainor

ILB (1)
Daniel Holtzclaw
Scott McKillop

Cornerback (2)
Joe Burnett
Mark Parson
Mike Mickens

Safety (2)
Rashad Johnson
Sean Smith
Myron Rolle
Darcell McBath

[BrAinPaiNt]

Compensatory 6th. Pat White, WR/KR, West Virginia, 6'2", 189. A low risk gamble in the 6th round. Undeniable speed and elusiveness. Will replace one of the WRs. A project, but with possible big dividends.


Man love...I admit it.

I don't care if he plays WR, ST or is a work in progress QB.

Kid has the right work ethic, is all about team and is humble. That with great natural athletic ability.

Love the kid.

[Zaxor]

Brace has had too many shoulder problems that he scares me...I do like his teammate much better

B.J. Raji 6-1 323 DT

Also some interesting guys on BC

Thomas Claiborne 6-3 323 G/C

and my favorite

Kevin Akins was a LB now playing CB that is right folks... this cat went from LB to CB he is

6-2 224 WOW this is a guy I really like... I have been talking for a while about needing a hybrid type a guy that can cover like a corner and hit like a LB...he needs to move to SS for us so he may take a year or 2 to develop but what a player this guy could make

[Shinywalrus]

I know everyone wants to get a big body to plug in at NT, and I know that (aside from Cody, who right now looks like he's going back to school) he's the only guy who catches the eye in the weight column, but that alone doesn't make Brace the answer, guys.

This is a guy who has been plagued all season by back "issues" and has never really been tested on double teams like so many other DTs like this coming out of school - he's been almost exclusively 3-tech and his colleague, BJ Raji, is in a different league: quicker, a great, leveraged uppercut initial punch that throws linemen off balance - Raji is actually double-teamed more and has still been much more productive.

Raji is a true NT. Brace is not. Don't let weight be the only guide, guys.

Raji is almost certainly out of our range, but let's not draft another Carpenter to pretend he's AJ Hawk.

[Hostile]

I know everyone wants to get a big body to plug in at NT, and I know that (aside from Cody, who right now looks like he's going back to school) he's the only guy who catches the eye in the weight column, but that alone doesn't make Brace the answer, guys.

This is a guy who has been plagued all season by back "issues" and has never really been tested on double teams like so many other DTs like this coming out of school - he's been almost exclusively 3-tech and his colleague, BJ Raji, is in a different league: quicker, a great, leveraged uppercut initial punch that throws linemen off balance - Raji is actually double-teamed more and has still been much more productive.

Raji is a true NT. Brace is not. Don't let weight be the only guide, guys.

Raji is almost certainly out of our range, but let's not draft another Carpenter to pretend he's AJ Hawk.Weight wasn't my guide, I assure you.

[BrAinPaiNt]

Weight wasn't my guide, I assure you.

That's right...if weight was the guide many of us posting here would be walk ons for the NT spot.:D

[Hostile]

That's right...if weight was the guide many of us posting here would be walk ons for the NT spot.:DI could play with more heart than Tank did.

I actually said he would start at NT and Ratliff would move to DE.

:bang2:

[BrAinPaiNt]

I could play with more heart than Tank did.

I actually said he would start at NT and Ratliff would move to DE.

:bang2:

Well you can only go by what you hear in the offseason and word was he worked really hard and he talked about being a beast and all.

Plus I remember back during one Offseason when Antonio Bryant finally seemed to get it when talking in an interview, only to go back and act a fool.

Just go with what info you can....sometimes it pans out, sometimes not.

[Shinywalrus]

Fair enough, guys, but I frankly can't come up with another reason why Brace is more than a 7th round/UFA besides his size. He gets pushed around, blocked out of plays, has no pass rush moves, lets linemen get under his pads when double teamed, gets excited and penetrates past the play on zone blocks, and doesn't seem to know his lane assignments.

Yes, he's a solid college player and he has great physical tools and bulk at his disposal, and there's value there, but a #3 or #4 on a guy whose performance was driven heavily by the inability of mediocre competition to deal with his bulk and, more importantly, the beast lined up next to him?

I'm sure some of you simply have differing opinions, which is fine, but the skeptic in me and the part of me that got to see quite a few Eagles games up here in the northeast still says a lot of people are reading draft sites, sorting for the DT list, and looking at weights.

[Zaxor]

Fair enough, guys, but I frankly can't come up with another reason why Brace is more than a 7th round/UFA besides his size. He gets pushed around, blocked out of plays, has no pass rush moves, lets linemen get under his pads when double teamed, gets excited and penetrates past the play on zone blocks, and doesn't seem to know his lane assignments.

Yes, he's a solid college player and he has great physical tools and bulk at his disposal, and there's value there, but a #3 or #4 on a guy whose performance was driven heavily by the inability of mediocre competition to deal with his bulk and, more importantly, the beast lined up next to him?

I'm sure some of you simply have differing opinions, which is fine, but the skeptic in me and the part of me that got to see quite a few Eagles games up here in the northeast still says a lot of people are reading draft sites, sorting for the DT list, and looking at weights.

I got to watch 3 BC games and the Music city Bowl game in all 4 games Raji was by far the better player... despite like you said... being doubled the majority of the time

[Hostile]

Fair enough, guys, but I frankly can't come up with another reason why Brace is more than a 7th round/UFA besides his size. He gets pushed around, blocked out of plays, has no pass rush moves, lets linemen get under his pads when double teamed, gets excited and penetrates past the play on zone blocks, and doesn't seem to know his lane assignments.

Yes, he's a solid college player and he has great physical tools and bulk at his disposal, and there's value there, but a #3 or #4 on a guy whose performance was driven heavily by the inability of mediocre competition to deal with his bulk and, more importantly, the beast lined up next to him?

I'm sure some of you simply have differing opinions, which is fine, but the skeptic in me and the part of me that got to see quite a few Eagles games up here in the northeast still says a lot of people are reading draft sites, sorting for the DT list, and looking at weights.For what it is worth. I consult 2 to 3 Draft sites for every player I look at when I make a Mock Draft. Where I have them slotted is where the majority of those sites slot them. Since they overload their slots (in other words up to 40 players named for each round of 32) I sometimes slide them up or down a round.

Brace is in the round he was slotted by all 3 websites I consulted as I started studying. No one has him in the 7th round except you. Doesn't mean you will be wrong and the 3 websites right. Players do fall. Just saying that I am not overpricing him by where he fell in my Mock.

[Hostile]

I got to watch 3 BC games and the Music city Bowl game in all 4 games Raji was by far the better player... despite like you said... being doubled the majority of the timeFor the record, I am not saying Raji is not better. I am saying Raji will be gone earlier. I believe he will go by the top of the 2nd round. I cannot magically put Raji in the slot where I have Brace.

[Zaxor]

For what it is worth. I consult 2 to 3 Draft sites for every player I look at when I make a Mock Draft. Where I have them slotted is where the majority of those sites slot them. Since they overload their slots (in other words up to 40 players named for each round of 32) I sometimes slide them up or down a round.

Brace is in the round he was slotted by all 3 websites I consulted as I started studying. No one has him in the 7th round except you. Doesn't mean you will be wrong and the 3 websites right. Players do fall. Just saying that I am not overpricing him by where he fell in my Mock.

DT's must be in high demand for Brace to go in the 5th...It will be very interesting for sure...

AH this thread makes me smile...its great fun picking out some pet cats

[Zaxor]

For the record, I am not saying Raji is not better. I am saying Raji will be gone earlier. I believe he will go by the top of the 2nd round. I cannot magically put Raji in the slot where I have Brace.


I agree he is gone by the end of the 2nd round but he still might be worth trading some late round picks to move up and get... he really looks like a player...but I have been wrong before :)

[Bob Sacamano]

for what it's worth, NFLDraftScout has Brace in the 3rd-4th round

although Hos, I bet you didn't consult that site about Holtzclaw, they peg him as undrafted

[Zaxor]

for what it's worth, NFLDraftScout has Brace in the 3rd-4th round

although Hos, I bet you didn't consult that site about Holtzclaw, they peg him as undrafted

If the guy goes that high I think it will be more for the demand for DT's in the NFL than what the guy is actually worth

[Shinywalrus]

For what it is worth. I consult 2 to 3 Draft sites for every player I look at when I make a Mock Draft. Where I have them slotted is where the majority of those sites slot them. Since they overload their slots (in other words up to 40 players named for each round of 32) I sometimes slide them up or down a round.

Brace is in the round he was slotted by all 3 websites I consulted as I started studying. No one has him in the 7th round except you. Doesn't mean you will be wrong and the 3 websites right. Players do fall. Just saying that I am not overpricing him by where he fell in my Mock.

No, and you certainly seem to know your business in general - I like a lot of your other guys in the mock, and found myself thinking along the same lines.

It just seems like every year, people find the big nose tackles (like Okam or Bryant last year) and latch onto them. Obviously, that might not be what's happening here, so don't mind me jumping to conclusions. :)

[Shinywalrus]

For the record, I am not saying Raji is not better. I am saying Raji will be gone earlier. I believe he will go by the top of the 2nd round. I cannot magically put Raji in the slot where I have Brace.

Granted. If Raji is available at the top of the second, incidentally, I would consider that a gift from the gods.

[Hostile]

for what it's worth, NFLDraftScout has Brace in the 3rd-4th round

although Hos, I bet you didn't consult that site about Holtzclaw, they peg him as undraftedNo, I didn't consult them.

The later we can get him the better. One of my favorite players in this crap. Can't wait to see the combines.

~memo to self... :write: reorder digital cable for the Combines then cancel it again.~

[Hostile]

Granted. If Raji is available at the top of the second, incidentally, I would consider that a gift from the gods.Why? We don't have a pick until around 50 or 51? Or are you saying we'd trade up to the top of the 2nd to take him?

The player I would pee on myself to grab at the top of the 2nd is Duke Robinson at Guard.

[Shinywalrus]

Why? We don't have a pick until around 50 or 51? Or are you saying we'd trade up to the top of the 2nd to take him?

The player I would pee on myself to grab at the top of the 2nd is Duke Robinson at Guard.

Yeah, it would be a tradeup, probably lose the 4th and the 5th, or one of those and next year's 3rd.

I like Robinson a lot, I just don't know that the gulf between him and Herman Johnson is big enough to merit a tradeup - Raji, in my mind, is the last true NT prospect in the draft that could have any chance of starting the first season. Just a little easier to justify moving up, in my opinion.

[Hostile]

Yeah, it would be a tradeup, probably lose the 4th and the 5th, or one of those and next year's 3rd.

I like Robinson a lot, I just don't know that the gulf between him and Herman Johnson is big enough to merit a tradeup - Raji, in my mind, is the last true NT prospect in the draft that could have any chance of starting the first season. Just a little easier to justify moving up, in my opinion.I would always rather have a 10 year starter who could be an All Pro over a guy who is tops in his class but not likely to be tops at the next level. What I mean is, I think Robinson has the potential to be considered the best at his position in the NFL and Raji I don't see it. If I am going to trade up, and both are available. I'd take Robinson over Raji all day long.

[Shinywalrus]

I would always rather have a 10 year starter who could be an All Pro over a guy who is tops in his class but not likely to be tops at the next level. What I mean is, I think Robinson has the potential to be considered the best at his position in the NFL and Raji I don't see it. If I am going to trade up, and both are available. I'd take Robinson over Raji all day long.

Fair enough. I find it hard to be blown away by interior offensive linemen in college, personally. The good ones tend to look very, very good, because the speed and agility of the big bodies they're up against in the college ranks tend to be pretty sub-par.

Guards are just so tough to evaluate beyond the effects of raw strength and the ability to pull, prior to individual workouts.

From what I've seen, Robinson just hasn't looked much better to me than Johnson.

After watching the Virginia Tech game, though, I really felt like I hadn't seen a DT who would fit the Cowboy hybrid 1gap/2gap NT role quite like Raji, but there's no question he's not a no-risk prospect.

[Bob Sacamano]

No, I didn't consult them.

The later we can get him the better. One of my favorite players in this crap. Can't wait to see the combines.

~memo to self... :write: reorder digital cable for the Combines then cancel it again.~

shame on you

and I think you're going to have to stay digital man

unless you have a dish

[Randy White]

The only problem I have with your mock is that we're not drafting a DE. Instead of White as projected WR, which is a position that we don't need and we could address after the draft, we need to draft a DE, especially if Canty is not resigned.