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TheCount
01-30-2009, 09:40 AM
HOUSTON – Exxon Mobil Corp. on Friday reported a profit of $45.2 billion for 2008, breaking its own record for a U.S. company, even as its fourth-quarter earnings fell 33 percent from a year ago.


The previous record for annual profit was $40.6 billion, which the world's largest publicly traded oil company set in 2007.


The extraordinary full-year profit wasn't a surprise given crude's triple-digit price for much of 2008, peaking near an unheard of $150 a barrel in July. Since then, however, prices have fallen roughly 70 percent amid a deepening global economic crisis.


In the fourth quarter alone crude tumbled 60 percent, prompting spending and job cuts in an industry that was reporting robust, often record, profits as recently as last summer.


With piles of cash and diversified operations, the majors like Exxon Mobil have fared better than many smaller oil and gas companies, but Friday's results show no one is completely insulated from the ongoing malaise.
Irving, Texas-based Exxon said net income slid sharply to $7.8 billion, or $1.55 a share, in the October-December period. That compared with $11.7 billion, or $2.13 a share, in the same period a year ago, when Exxon set a U.S. record for quarterly profit. It has since topped that mark twice, first in last year's second quarter and then with earnings of $14.83 billion in the third quarter.


Revenue in the most-recent quarter fell 27 percent to $84.7 billion.
Both the per-share and revenue results topped Wall Street forecasts. On average, analysts expected the company to earn $1.45 a share in the latest quarter on revenue of $69.1 billion, according to Thomson Reuters.
Shares rose $1.52, or 2 percent, to $78.52 in early trading.


The nation's second largest oil company, Chevron Corp., reported profits of $4.9 billion for the fourth quarter, though revenues slid 26 percent with oil prices in sharp decline.


It earned $2.44 per share in the three months ended Dec. 31. Like Exxon, Chevron easily beat expectations of analysts, who were looking for profits of $1.81 per share.


The industry went into retrenchment toward the end of the year with demand falling.


As expected, Exxon Mobil's bottom line took a beating from its exploration and production, or upstream, arm, where net income fell 31 percent to $5.6 billion. The culprit: lower crude prices, which the company said decreased earnings by $3.2 billion in the fourth quarter alone.
The company, which produces about 3 percent of the world's oil, said overall output fell 3 percent in the most-recent period, a troubling trend in previous quarters. Exxon, which generates more than two-thirds of its earnings from oil and gas production, said production-sharing contracts and OPEC quotas contributed to its lower output.


Results were better at its refining and marketing unit, where earnings rose 6 percent to $2.4 billion as higher margins overcame costs related to last summer's hurricanes and other factors.


The company's chemical division also took a hit, posting net income of $155 million versus $1.1 billion a year ago. Results were hurt by lower volumes and margins and hurricane-repair costs.


Exxon Mobil said it bought 119 million shares of its common stock in the quarter at a cost of $8.8 billion. Roughly $8 billion of that amount was dedicated to reducing the number of shares outstanding; the balance was used to offset shares issued as part of the company's benefit plans.
Exxon said it spent $26.1 billion on capital and exploration projects last year, up 25 percent from 2007. Its earnings release provided no information about its planned spending for 2009.



For the full year, Exxon Mobil's massive profit amounted to $8.69 a share, versus $7.28 a share a year ago.




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Good to see someone is doing well despite a global recession. :rolleyes:

Next year probably won't be as good for them, but I doubt they'll be hurting too much.

ZeroClub
01-30-2009, 09:52 AM
rat baahsturds

trickblue
01-30-2009, 10:04 AM
So... last year the evil oil companies posted record numbers and we crucified them for gouging the US public with high gas prices...

Now they post more record profits while gas has fallen over $2.00 a gallon and is at lows we haven't seen in years...

Evil indeed...

BrAinPaiNt
01-30-2009, 10:06 AM
Glad I bought 5k shares of their stock last year.


Just joking, I don't have that kind of money

JBond
01-30-2009, 10:21 AM
Shell posts loss on back of tumbling oil prices

Posted Fri Jan 30, 2009 2:17am AEDT
Updated Fri Jan 30, 2009 2:16am AEDT


Anglo-Dutch energy giant Royal Dutch Shell said it had made a net loss of $US2.81 billion ($4.3 billion) in the final quarter of 2008 as plunging oil prices slashed the value of inventories.

The loss compared with a net profit of $8.47 billion during the fourth quarter of 2007 when crude prices were far higher, Europe's largest oil company said in a statement.
"During the fourth quarter 2008 worldwide oil and gas related commodity marker prices declined significantly," Shell said.

"As a consequence, net working capital decreased by some $15 billion during the fourth quarter 2008, mainly due to the lower valued inventory in oil products" held by the group.

Shell's earnings were battered badly in the three months, with oil prices slumping to near five-year lows below $US33 a barrel as the global economic slowdown curbed demand for energy.

The sharp drop in prices came after oil struck historic highs above $US147 in July as the markets focused on simmering geopolitical tensions in major crude exporters Iran and Nigeria.

Shell said that fourth quarter earnings were also hit by lower production volumes in the United States and higher exploration costs.

The group's overall oil output dipped slightly in the fourth quarter to 3.415 million barrels per day and was down 2 per cent in 2008.

For the year, net profit dropped 16 per cent to $US26.28 billion even as revenue jumped 29 per cent to $US458 billion.

In the fourth quarter alone, however, sales fell by almost a quarter to $US81 billion.

"We delivered satisfactory performance in the fourth quarter of 2008 given the pressure on demand for oil and gas due to a weaker global economy," chief executive Jeroen van der Veer said.

The group's results "should be seen as accomplished and reassuring in what was a very volatile quarter," Peter Hutton, analyst at NCB Stockbrokers, said.

The company said it would pay shareholders a dividend of 40 US cents per share, up 11 per cent compared with the fourth quarter of 2007.
- AFP

Doomsday101
01-30-2009, 10:21 AM
Good to see some US business turning a profit.

Rowdy
01-30-2009, 10:24 AM
Glad I bought 5k shares of their stock last year.


Just joking, I don't have that kind of money

Of course you don't. You invested all of it in that animal skin swimwear line.

zrinkill
01-30-2009, 10:40 AM
Good to see some US business turning a profit.

Yup ......

ninja
01-30-2009, 11:40 AM
Does this mean Obama and the Democrats will push for the Windfall Profits Tax they liked so much while campaigning? It seems to have died or been sent to the backburner. Or was this just more lies?

Exxon makes $45 Billion profit and their execs and employees get how much in bonuses? Couple hundred million?

Wall Street loses a gazillion dollars and gets $18 billion in bonuses.

Nice.

Doomsday101
01-30-2009, 11:42 AM
Does this mean Obama and the Democrats will push for the Windfall Profits Tax they liked so much while campaigning? It seems to have died or been sent to the backburner. Or was this just more lies?

Exxon makes $45 Billion profit and their execs and employees get how much in bonuses? Couple hundred million?

Wall Street loses a gazillion dollars and gets $18 billion in bonuses.

Nice.

Yes we must punish Exxon for a job well done. :laugh2:

Cajuncowboy
01-30-2009, 11:47 AM
Ya'll don't think that America is the ONLY source of their sales do you?

You do know they sell their product in other countries, right?

Where they do turn a profit, right?

ZeroClub
01-30-2009, 12:15 PM
Let's call it the way it really is: Oil is the industrialized world's heroin.

Of course the oil pushers will get their cut, in good times and in bad.

It is the nature of their business. They are unusually well positioned.

That's all.

Cajuncowboy
01-30-2009, 12:18 PM
Let's call it the way it really is: Oil is the industrialized world's heroin.

Of course the oil pushers will get their cut, in good times and in bad.

It is the nature of their business. They are unusually well positioned.

That's all.

Well, it is their business and they do it well.

If for some bizarre reason the price of cabbage went through the roof there would be world outcry over the obscene profits made by Big Cabbage companies.


See 1974 and sugar.

BrAinPaiNt
01-30-2009, 12:22 PM
Well, it is their business and they do it well.

If for some bizarre reason the price of cabbage went through the roof there would be world outcry over the obscene profits made by Big Cabbage companies.


See 1974 and sugar.

Seeing at people don't need cabbage to get the work...I doubt it would be the same thing. But I get your general point, I am just being a ly old fart.

ZeroClub
01-30-2009, 12:23 PM
Cabbage isn't heroin.

Doomsday101
01-30-2009, 12:24 PM
Cabbage isn't heroin.

Neither is oil

Cajuncowboy
01-30-2009, 12:25 PM
Cabbage isn't heroin.

Neither is oil, or sugar for that matter.

Edit: Just saw Doomsday's post.

;)

Cajuncowboy
01-30-2009, 12:28 PM
Seeing at people don't need cabbage to get the work...I doubt it would be the same thing. But I get your general point, I am just being a ly old fart.

It causes gas. :p:

Doomsday101
01-30-2009, 12:29 PM
Neither is oil, or sugar for that matter.

Edit: Just saw Doomsday's post.

;)

No problem. I love how some like to demonize big business.

BrAinPaiNt
01-30-2009, 12:33 PM
It causes gas. :p:

Yeah it does.

But I think you understand what Zero and I mean by the oil/heroin thing and how cabbage or sugar does not apply like oil does.

Oil effects all of us, cabbage not so much. We as a society, maybe a world is better, that is addicted to oil.

It shapes our lives in a personal level and a foreign/domestic political policy level.

Cabbage...not so much.:D

ZeroClub
01-30-2009, 12:55 PM
At some point, if you are going to judge the genius of business people, you need to factor in the difficulty of their task.

Like bullriding.

You judge the cowboy based on his performance and the performance of the bull that the cowboy is riding. That way you factor in the challenge that was faced by the cowboy.

So how tough was the oil industry's bull? It isn't like oil is a tough sell. Is it?

Pretty much any bozo with a barrel of oil is going to make some money on it.

Cajuncowboy
01-30-2009, 12:59 PM
Yeah it does.

But I think you understand what Zero and I mean by the oil/heroin thing and how cabbage or sugar does not apply like oil does.

Oil effects all of us, cabbage not so much. We as a society, maybe a world is better, that is addicted to oil.

It shapes our lives in a personal level and a foreign/domestic political policy level.

Cabbage...not so much.:D

Well, the gas joke aside, it's all about big business.

As I referenced look at what happened to sugar back in 74. People were complaining about the shortage and the price skyrocketed. They blamed everyone from the grocery stores to the farmers to the producers. Sugar was used in most cooking. And then we started seeing sugar substitutes, albeit for dietary purposes.

The point is that if you want to get off something you will take the proper steps to do so. As a world community we haven't done that with oil. Primarily because most people know we have vast amounts of it available. We just have politicians who will not allow us to go and get it.

As for the profits the oil companies are seeing, they make a large part of that from other countries where they sell it. They make a larger profit margin on it there than here because their costs are much lower due to the fact they don't have to meet the silly restrictions placed on them by the kook environmentalists.

I still say you have gas though. :D

Cajuncowboy
01-30-2009, 01:01 PM
At some point, if you are going to judge the genius of business people, you need to factor in the difficulty of their task.

Like bullriding.

You judge the cowboy based on his performance and the performance of the bull that the cowboy is riding. That way you factor in the challenge that was faced by the cowboy.

So how tough was the oil industry's bull? It isn't like oil is a tough sell. Is it?

Pretty much any bozo with a barrel of oil is going to make some money on it.

It's a pretty tough bull here in America. they make around 3 cents a gallon profit from a gallon of gas. The government makes most of the profit from the dale of a gallon of gas based on the fuel taxes.

JBond
01-30-2009, 01:02 PM
No problem. I love how some like to demonize big business.

and those same people defend big government....

I'm not sure people here have grasped the amount of economic freedom America is going to lose because of this massive spending bill.

zrinkill
01-30-2009, 01:03 PM
Pretty much any bozo with a barrel of oil is going to make some money on it.

But not just any bozo can get that barrel of oil.

Getting the oil is a lot harder and more dangerous than most anyone here knows.

Cajuncowboy
01-30-2009, 01:04 PM
No problem. I love how some like to demonize big business.

It's the socialist who do that. It's because it flies in the face of their agenda. Which is why Obama said he would attempt to bankrupt the coal industry.

Cajuncowboy
01-30-2009, 01:04 PM
But not just any bozo can get that barrel of oil.

Getting the oil is a lot harder and more dangerous than most anyone here knows.

Just ask any Roughneck!

zrinkill
01-30-2009, 01:06 PM
Just ask any Roughneck!

I have ....... I have 2 great uncles and one uncle who was just that.

Both great Uncles died in their early 60's (wore out bodies) ..... and my Uncle who is only 55 has the hands and shoulders of a 80 year old man.

Rough rough job.

Cajuncowboy
01-30-2009, 01:12 PM
I have ....... I have 2 great uncles and one uncle who was just that.

Both great Uncles died in their early 60's (wore out bodies) ..... and my Uncle who is only 55 has the hands and shoulders of a 80 year old man.

Rough rough job.

Several of my uncles in LA started that way early on, then they became too pushers and moved on from there. One of them is now a part time consultant to several of the oil companies for rig operations and I have a cousin who is a repair specialist/quality expert for a major company.

No one really knows how hard this work is.