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sbark
01-31-2009, 12:27 PM
$646,214 Per Government Job

by Alan Reynolds

Alan Reynolds is a senior fellow with the Cato Institute and the author of Income and Wealth (Greenwood Press, 2006).
Added to cato.org on January 28, 2009

This article appeared in The Wall Street Journal (http://online.wsj.com/) on January 28, 2009.
If the intent of the plan is to alleviate unemployment, why spend over half of the money on sectors where unemployment is lowest? Another 22.5% of the $550 billion would go to social programs, such as expanding food stamps and extending benefits for the unemployed and subsidizing their health insurance.
After subtracting what House Democrats hope to spend on government payrolls, health, education and welfare, only a fifth of the original $550 billion is left for notoriously slow infrastructure projects, such as rebuilding highways and the electricity grid

That's because "government spending shocks crowd out both residential and non-residential investment," while "the [positive] response of consumption is small and only significantly different from zero on impact" (i.e., temporarily). But suppose all of these recent studies were mistaken, and the House Democrats' spending spree worked as advertised. We're still left with three million jobs added or saved at a cost of $825 billion -- $275,000 per job.
In short, a growing body of evidence suggests that a dollar of extra spending is likely to lift nominal income by less than a dollar, arguably much less. Several studies suggest the multiplier may be less than zero after a couple of years, because private investment (including housing) eventually falls by more than government spending rises. Another $550 billion of deficit spending on top of a deficit already above $1 trillion is likely to prove more dangerous than helpful to an economy already overloaded with risky debt.

http://www.cato.org/special/stimulus09/cato_stimulus.pdf

theogt
01-31-2009, 12:45 PM
The numbers are actually wrong. The prediction was 4 million jobs created in the first two years. That's not the prediction for all years that spending occur, so it wouldn't make sense to divide the entire $825 billion by 4 million. Now, the numbers for how much of the package is spent in the first two years are all over the place. I've seen predictions from $100 billion to $600 billion.

sbark
01-31-2009, 01:02 PM
If the intent of the plan is to alleviate unemployment, why spend over half of the money on sectors where unemployment is lowest?
Another 22.5% of the $550 billion would go to social programs, such as expanding food stamps and extending benefits for the unemployed and subsidizing their health insurance.
After subtracting what House Democrats hope to spend on government payrolls, health, education and welfare, only a fifth of the original $550 billion is left for notoriously slow infrastructure projects, such as rebuilding highways and the electricity grid.

Show me a clear example of when and where Keyne's economic theories have actually worked long term..........

and no--not FDR: he push'd a recession into a 12 yr Great Dep. with his version of Keynes economics.....and it looks like history will repeat itself--only 4x

theogt
01-31-2009, 01:20 PM
If the intent of the plan is to alleviate unemployment, why spend over half of the money on sectors where unemployment is lowest?
Another 22.5% of the $550 billion would go to social programs, such as expanding food stamps and extending benefits for the unemployed and subsidizing their health insurance.
After subtracting what House Democrats hope to spend on government payrolls, health, education and welfare, only a fifth of the original $550 billion is left for notoriously slow infrastructure projects, such as rebuilding highways and the electricity grid.

Show me a clear example of when and where Keyne's economic theories have actually worked long term..........

and no--not FDR: he push'd a recession into a 12 yr Great Dep. with his version of Keynes economics.....and it looks like history will repeat itself--only 4xShow me a clear example of where Keynesian economic theories didn't shorten a recession.

I can't answer your question and you can't answer mine. You're not going to end this debate by just assuming you're right.

VCDefectors
01-31-2009, 01:33 PM
Show me a clear example of when and where Keyne's economic theories have actually worked long term..........

First, you will have to define long-term. But let me help you.

Until recently, our country had been on the longest economic expansionary periods in American history.

Keynesian economics have proven to be, more or less, highly successful. And every administration since FDR has used some form of Keynesian economics, including Reagan.