Best Dog foods? canned and dry

[REDVOLUTION]

Hi,

I have two dogs. A Husky and German Shepherd.

Been mixing and matching. Would love to know about other dog lovers choices and or mixes. Brands etc.

Thanks

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[Yeagermeister]

Hi,

I have two dogs. A Husky and German Shepherd.

Been mixing and matching. Would love to know about other dog lovers choices and or mixes. Brands etc.

Thanks

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I've always heard science diet or iams was the best. My dog prefers pedigree. She won't eat any other brand.

[Rack Bauer]

Science Diet is the best brand of dog food you can give your dog (By FAR) and don't EVER give your dog canned food, unless you enjoy paying 100's of dollars on your dogs' dental bills.

[Signals]

Pork.

Kinda expensive but man dogs love it. Other wise feed them cat....

[Signals]

Pork.

Kinda expensive but man dogs love it. Other wise feed them cat....food.


What were you thinking?

[the kid 05]

I've always heard science diet or iams was the best. My dog prefers pedigree. She won't eat any other brand.

Science Diet is the best brand of dog food you can give your dog (By FAR) and don't EVER give your dog canned food, unless you enjoy paying 100's of dollars on your dogs' dental bills.

i feed my jack russell terrier Science Diet not much of a diet as her breed its "supposta" weight 15-16 lbs and she weights in at a "hefty" 22 lbs but she runs and plays with pitbulls and rotts so i think shes trying to buff up for em lol

[5Stars]

Try feeding your dogs some Micheal Vick....

:)

[Yeagermeister]

Try feeding your dogs some Micheal Vick....

:)

He doesn't want to poison them. :laugh2:

[Rowdy]

Science Diet is the best brand of dog food you can give your dog (By FAR) and don't EVER give your dog canned food, unless you enjoy paying 100's of dollars on your dogs' dental bills.

NO brand listed here is the best brand for your dog. The following website has a decent selection of foods that are truly the best for your canine. These are foods that don't have crap for ingredients. Regardless if the first ingredient listed on a lot of commercially-available foods is some kind of meat as well as listing a ton of "nutritionally-sound" ingredients, most of them are not the best for your dog.

http://www.dogfoodanalysis.com/dog_food_reviews/showcat.php/cat/8

[Heisenberg]

NO brand listed here is the best brand for your dog. The following website has a decent selection of foods that are truly the best for your canine. These are foods that don't have crap for ingredients. Regardless if the first ingredient listed on a lot of commercially-available foods is some kind of meat as well as listing a ton of "nutritionally-sound" ingredients, most of them are not the best for your dog.

http://www.dogfoodanalysis.com/dog_food_reviews/showcat.php/cat/8

Exactly. The stuff you can buy at Wal-Mart or the grocery store is trash. Most of the stuff you can buy at the major chain pet stores are also trash. I feed my dog Innova Red Meat Large Bites. It's expensive, but for a 90 pound dog, he only needs 3.5 cups of it. It lasts a while so it evens out in the end and your dog will be eating stuff that's really good for him.

I get it at a mom and pop pet store nearby the house. I assure you, if you do a little research on this, you'll realize that all those commercials for dog foods on TV like Beneful are just covering up for the fact that they're feeding your dog cardboard. Don't fall for it.

[Rowdy]

Exactly. The stuff you can buy at Wal-Mart or the grocery store is trash. Most of the stuff you can buy at the major chain pet stores are also trash. I feed my dog Innova Red Meat Large Bites. It's expensive, but for a 90 pound dog, he only needs 3.5 cups of it. It lasts a while so it evens out in the end and your dog will be eating stuff that's really good for him.

I get it at a mom and pop pet store nearby the house. I assure you, if you do a little research on this, you'll realize that all those commercials for dog foods on TV like Beneful are just covering up for the fact that they're feeding your dog cardboard. Don't fall for it.

:hammer:

[DallasCowpoke]

Eukanuba dry dog food is my recommendation. Their poop'll be solid and if you feed your dog on a regular schedule ie same time morning and night, they'll return the favor.

[CowboyFan74]

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http://www.beneful.com/

Beneful by Purina
(Dry Dog Food)
Beef flavor.

We mix in can food as a treat ONCE A WEEK ONLY, usually on weekends. This is to keep his coat shiny and it's good to grease his insides once a week since he eats dry food all the time. It's not good for your animal to give it can food everyday.

[REDVOLUTION]

Ok.

My research has turned up the following. Not saying it is true or not. I still want to hear what you owners have to say.

Just posting this info.


Science Diet - seems that the ingredients are poor quality. Which baffles me because the name, for me, should indicate that it is a proper mixture of good ingredients.


Regular dog food brands - chemicals and poor quality. Grain and by products and filler.

Also it seems that manufacturers have found a loophole in their listing ingredients. When a manufacturer receives its meats for processing. Whatever chemicals were added BEFORE they received it DO NOT have to be listed on the label.

That is troubling to me.


Sort of like for us humans. The poultry manufacturer can label chicken cutlets as "steroid free" or "antibiotic free"... here comes the loophole... WHEN the chicken hasnt been fed any steroids in the last month or so of its life.

So they can have steroids for a couple of months. Then during the last month they take them off because they have grown to full size THEN label is as "antibiotic or steroid free"

[Rack Bauer]

Pork.

Kinda expensive but man dogs love it. Other wise feed them cat....

food.


What were you thinking?

Cat food is incredibly rough on a dog's liver (or is it kidneys? I forget).

DO NOT LET YOUR DOGS EAT CAT FOOD.

NO brand listed here is the best brand for your dog. The following website has a decent selection of foods that are truly the best for your canine. These are foods that don't have crap for ingredients. Regardless if the first ingredient listed on a lot of commercially-available foods is some kind of meat as well as listing a ton of "nutritionally-sound" ingredients, most of them are not the best for your dog.

http://www.dogfoodanalysis.com/dog_food_reviews/showcat.php/cat/8

Science Diet is the BEST dog food you can give your dog. Period.


I worked at a vet clinic, I think I know what I'm talking about.

And vets barely make any money off science diet. It's an expensive dog food, but vets don't usually make much off of it.

I got all my dog food at cost, but barely noticed a difference in the "normal" cost of my dog food compared to the "discounted" (at cost) price.


I don't care what that article says, not even gonna bother clicking it. I believe the word of my vet (that I worked with) then I do some internet article.

[Rack Bauer]

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http://www.beneful.com/

Beneful by Purina
(Dry Dog Food)
Beef flavor.

We mix in can food as a treat ONCE A WEEK ONLY, usually on weekends. This is to keep his coat shiny and it's good to grease his insides once a week since he eats dry food all the time. It's not good for your animal to give it can food everyday.



Sorry but that's a giant load of BS.

And Canned dog food doesn't "Grease" a dang thing.

[Rowdy]

Science Diet is the BEST dog food you can give your dog. Period.

I worked at a vet clinic, I think I know what I'm talking about.

I don't care what that article says, not even gonna bother clicking it. I believe the word of my vet (that I worked with) then I do some internet article.

You make an open claim that Science Diet is the best dog food period and your claim on backing it up is due to prior employment at a clinic and what somebody told you? Please. SD in my opinion is over-rated and is barely better than grocery store dog food. Just the fact that you will not even blink at doing your own research but rather believe only one person exhibits extreme biasedness.

So if I state that I believe Science Diet is not the best and I could post links to quite a few reviews from dog owners who have complained about Science Diet as well as ingredient comparisons to other far better brands, you wouldn't even look at it? I guess it is pointless then to prove my point.

[Juke99]

YoMick...gotta LOVE that Husky. Beautiful pooch.

[Rowdy]

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http://www.beneful.com/

Beneful by Purina
(Dry Dog Food)
Beef flavor.

We mix in can food as a treat ONCE A WEEK ONLY, usually on weekends. This is to keep his coat shiny and it's good to grease his insides once a week since he eats dry food all the time. It's not good for your animal to give it can food everyday.

Sorry but that's a giant load of BS.

And Canned dog food doesn't "Grease" a dang thing.


I believe CowboyFan74 was simply stating that they give their dog a can occasionally due to having a softer texture to consume as well as the fact that I believe some canned dog foods provide essential Omega fatty acids to have a better delivery than a dry kibble. I believe the term "grease the insides" wasn't meant to be taken literally.

[CowboyFan74]

Sorry but that's a giant load of BS.

And Canned dog food doesn't "Grease" a dang thing.

Teh hell you say mang?!!!:mad::mad::mad::lmao2:

[Rack Bauer]

You make an open claim that Science Diet is the best dog food period and your claim on backing it up is due to prior employment at a clinic and what somebody told you? Please. SD in my opinion is over-rated and is barely better than grocery store dog food. Just the fact that you will not even blink at doing your own research but rather believe only one person exhibits extreme biasedness.

So if I state that I believe Science Diet is not the best and I could post links to quite a few reviews from dog owners who have complained about Science Diet as well as ingredient comparisons to other far better brands, you wouldn't even look at it? I guess it is pointless then to prove my point.

I'll take the word over an actual animal DOCTOR over yours anyday.

Would I take the word over someone who has went to school and has worked in the field for YEARS over some schmo on the internet?

Yes. Yes I would.


By the way, those ingredients are counted BEFORE processing on most of those foods. After processing the foods lose quite a bit of their vitamin, minerals, etc... and are NOT accurate.


You think you know more about it then an actual animal DOCTOR? Yeah, sure thing, Chico. Whatever you say.


My vet isn't the greatest person on the planet, but she's by far the best animal vet I know, and I know for a fact that she barely makes any money off of selling science diet, yet she pushes it like nobody's business.

Yes, my vet knows more about dog food then you do, Nancy.

[CowboyFan74]

I'll take the word over an actual animal DOCTOR over yours anyday.

Would I take the word over someone who has went to school and has worked in the field for YEARS over some schmo on the internet?

Yes. Yes I would.


By the way, those ingredients are counted BEFORE processing on most of those foods. After processing the foods lose quite a bit of their vitamin, minerals, etc... and are NOT accurate.


You think you know more about it then an actual animal DOCTOR? Yeah, sure thing, Chico. Whatever you say.


My vet isn't the greatest person on the planet, but she's by far the best animal vet I know, and I know for a fact that she barely makes any money off of selling science diet, yet she pushes it like nobody's business.

Yes, my vet knows more about dog food then you do, Nancy.

You should go to law school instead, great argument:laugh2:

[Rowdy]

I'll take the word over an actual animal DOCTOR over yours anyday.

Would I take the word over someone who has went to school and has worked in the field for YEARS over some schmo on the internet?

Yes. Yes I would.


By the way, those ingredients are counted BEFORE processing on most of those foods. After processing the foods lose quite a bit of their vitamin, minerals, etc... and are NOT accurate.


You think you know more about it then an actual animal DOCTOR? Yeah, sure thing, Chico. Whatever you say.


My vet isn't the greatest person on the planet, but she's by far the best animal vet I know, and I know for a fact that she barely makes any money off of selling science diet, yet she pushes it like nobody's business.

Yes, my vet knows more about dog food then you do, Nancy.


No one said to take MY word for it. Read my posts. Oh wait, you don't. You are too busy typing with a giant chip on your shoulder. I'd venture to say I don't stand alone in my concerns. I knew the minute I read your post and simply replied something contrary, you were going to throw a fit.

Don't worry, no one's bad-mouthing your vet so you can put the fangs back.

[Rowdy]

By the way, those ingredients are counted BEFORE processing on most of those foods. After processing the foods lose quite a bit of their vitamin, minerals, etc... and are NOT accurate.


Go ahead and believe in words. I will believe in people who have not gone by words but real life instances. Enjoy the following from the ASPCA website.

Reply by ***** on January 26, 2009 at 5:00pm
"Please do not feed your dog Science Diet, We had our Labs on this food a few years back their coat was dull, they were itchy and shed like crazy. You might as well feed them a cob of corn, their main ingredient. I would not feed my dogs any commercial food. Find yourself a good holistic dog food and feed them that. I use Fromm, there a many good foods out their to choose from."

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Reply by **** on January 27, 2009 at 8:22pm
"Science Diet is an absolutely TERRIBLE food...nothing but fillers and garbage, and the only reason it's "Vet recommended" is because they pay vets to recommend their food...My experiance with it was with a dog (Rockie) I adopted from a shelter...it was the food they had him on, he was 3 years old (an adult) A Malamute/Timberwolf mix...he was reduced down to 63 lbs and had MOUTAINS of poop and loads of gas...I switched him to my diet of choice (then) Merrick, and he gained back his body weight, he is not 110lbs and very VERY healthy...the poop piles are no longer something out of Jurassic Park and no more gas...his coat quality improved greatly and so did his health. STAY AWAY FROM SD IF YOU LOVE YOUR PETS AND CARE ABOUT THEIR HEALTH!"

"You guys are right, I have been doing alot of research on pet foods and the one I have them on is all natural no corn or wheat. Science diet has all theses fillers, it makes me sick. I will look at the brand name of the food their on when I get home tonight, I guess I wanted to put my pups on it beacuse it was vet reccomened (but I was Wrong) and my lill' dog has been shown signs of dry coat but we think he has hypothyroidism becasue of sudden weight gain and lethargy. I'll keep them on the diet I have them on now and get my poor lil guy into his docotor."

"My husband decided to try our oldest German Shepherd, Gretchen, because she is on a pancreatic enzyme that is very expensive and he thought Science Diet would be a good food for her. Now, by reading all the other comments, I'm understanding why she has been so gassy and unpleasant to be around because of it. I definitely think we're going to have to rethink our food choice for her."

[Heisenberg]

No one is going to change their minds, but really, if you do ANY research on this, you'll realize that the name brand foods are crap. Really. I've got a list of a score rating based in ingredients of each food. I'll work on transcribing it later since it's in print. It's very enlightening.

You realize that some foods really shouldn't be called food at all.

[Rowdy]

No one is going to change their minds, but really, if you do ANY research on this, you'll realize that the name brand foods are crap. Really. I've got a list of a score rating based in ingredients of each food. I'll work on transcribing it later since it's in print. It's very enlightening.

You realize that some foods really shouldn't be called food at all.

True. But some people just won't do any research. Science Diet shouldn't be singled out and there are far worse ones. I am sure if I put my dog on SD with the proper diet selection, she would do just fine. The problem is I wouldn't even closely call it the best. I look forward to seeing your list.

[Rack Bauer]

One of my dogs started losing it's hair. Literally, she had several BIG patches of missing hair. My vet put her on Science Diet J/D and within a month and a half she had absolutely ZERO bald spots.


And I know for a FACT they don't "pay vets to recommend their food". That's a load of BS from some moron talking out his arse.



Science Diet
Eukanuba
Royal Canine
Iams
Purina (pro plan)

Those are the 5 best dog foods you can get. Eukanuba is actually made by Iams (it's their premium dog food).


You go on reading stories, I'll go by what I've seen with my own two eyes.


And saying Science Diet is barely better then any grocery store dog food is quite possibly the most igorant thing I've ever read in my entire life.

Ignorance is Bliss.

[Rowdy]

One of my dogs started losing it's hair. Literally, she had several BIG patches of missing hair. My vet put her on Science Diet J/D and within a month and a half she had absolutely ZERO bald spots.


And I know for a FACT they don't "pay vets to recommend their food". That's a load of BS from some moron talking out his arse.



Science Diet
Eukanuba
Royal Canine
Iams
Purina (pro plan)

Those are the 5 best dog foods you can get. Eukanuba is actually made by Iams (it's their premium dog food).


You go on reading stories, I'll go by what I've seen with my own two eyes.


And saying Science Diet is barely better then any grocery store dog food is quite possibly the most igorant thing I've ever read in my entire life.

Ignorance is Bliss.

Your dog got better because of something it was lacking. SD provided that. Does it provide a good all-around nutrition for all breeds superior to every food out there? :rolleyes: You don't know for a fact about anything else but what you experience. That's like saying it isn't raining anywhere else in the world because your house is dry.

I have my animals on Pro Plan and I can say it is by far not the best food out there as far as what is natural. I will continue to go on reading my "stories" er data collected from many owners out there to evaluate what may be a concern and what I think deems a brand of dog food superior or not so superior to all others out there.

You are truly right, ignorance is bliss.

Sincerely,

Nancy Chico

[Rack Bauer]

Your dog got better because of something it was lacking. SD provided that. Does it provide a good all-around nutrition for all breeds superior to every food out there? :rolleyes: You don't know for a fact about anything else but what you experience. That's like saying it isn't raining anywhere else in the world because your house is dry.

I have my animals on Pro Plan and I can say it is by far not the best food out there as far as what is natural. I will continue to go on reading my "stories" er data collected from many owners out there to evaluate what may be a concern and what I think deems a brand of dog food superior or not so superior to all others out there.

You are truly right, ignorance is bliss.

Sincerely,

Nancy Chico
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Pro Plan is a good dog food. One of the top 5. Nothing wrong with that one.


not as good as SD, but still very good (and cheaper).


I think what makes SD so much better is that there are several different "Kinds" that satisfy special needs per different dogs.

I get J/D cuz it's good for the skin/coat and for joints (that's what the "J" stands for) and one of my dogs has hip displacia (sp?).

J/D is very expensive though. But I can tell you from my VERY OWN experience that the vet I go to barely makes any money off selling SD. When I started working there I get everythign at cost (and free shots for my dogs/cats) but I barely noticed a difference in what I was paying for the J/D.



I do find it interesting that you're more willing to take the word of a bunch of strangers on the internet then from an actual vet. Go talk to your own vet and see what he/she tells you.

That goes for anyone here, go ask your vet what dog food they recommend.



I once read that taking a swig (sp?) of apple cider would dramatically reduce the effects of my acid reflux.

I tried it.


I'll never try it again.



Reading random stories/suggestions on the internet isn't always a smart thing to do.

[Rowdy]

I do find it interesting that you're more willing to take the word of a bunch of strangers on the internet then from an actual vet. Go talk to your own vet and see what he/she tells you.

That goes for anyone here, go ask your vet what dog food they recommend.



I once read that taking a swig (sp?) of apple cider would dramatically reduce the effects of my acid reflux.

I tried it.


I'll never try it again.



Reading random stories/suggestions on the internet isn't always a smart thing to do.


I don't take their words for it necessarily. I've just been heavily into the dog-owning hobby and have lost a Bullmastiff to renal kidney failure. I have had to learn a lot about what others have as far as success or failure with certain brands out there.

I have had to deal with products that contain Red dye, excessive protein, etc. My bullies can't handle too much protein or it will harm them. I have taken a lot of people's advice over the years because I think it has saved me from losing a pet. Do I believe in everything though, no. I will agree at this point to just state that we all have our opinions on what is the best. I am glad you had good luck with SD.

[Rack Bauer]

I don't take their words for it necessarily. I've just been heavily into the dog-owning hobby and have lost a Bullmastiff to renal kidney failure. I have had to learn a lot about what others have as far as success or failure with certain brands out there.

I have had to deal with products that contain Red dye, excessive protein, etc. My bullies can't handle too much protein or it will harm them. I have taken a lot of people's advice over the years because I think it has saved me from losing a pet. Do I believe in everything though, no. I will agree at this point to just state that we all have our opinions on what is the best. I am glad you had good luck with SD.

I own 7 dogs and 3 cats. All of them eat science diet. None of them are having any problems.


One of my huskies had been having excessive problems with hot spots. Not one singe hot spot since I put him on SD J/D.


Dog food isn't a "Hobby" for me. My dogs and cats are my family, so it's a bit more serious for me then just a "Hobby". I figure that's just a poor choice of word on your part.

I'm truly sorry about yoru dog. I've lost a dog and a cat in the last 10 years and it freakin' sucks.


But I promise you, SD is the best dog food you can give your dog. One of my cats is on purina D/M cuz that particular food is best for cats that are diabetic or in danger of becoming a diabetic. The other two are on SD.


SD also sells a mroe "Organic" dog food called "Natures Best". I recommend that one as well.


Like I said, one of the things that makes SD so good is that it has several different types of formulas to fit whatever diet your dog may need.



LIke I said, I worked at a vet. I think I have some experience in this field.

And my vet, I don't like her. She was a major B**** to work for, but she's a dang good doctor and she knows what she's talking about. She's not in it for the money. In fact, before I even started working for her she changed some of the medications (heart worm pills and top spot) cuz my previous vet was selling me stuff I didn't need. She SAVED me a bunch of money when she could have just sold me the same stuff my previous vet was selling me and made the money herself off of me. I don't like her, but I trust her.

[Bob Sacamano]

shampoo is bettah! I go on 1st, and clean your hair!

no, conditioner is bettah! I make your hair silky and smooth

oh really poo'? oomph, oomph, oomph

[lewpac]

BenaFuel. And I've had at least two dogs on board the last 30yrs. Everything that BenaFuel says it does on the bag, it does. It also comes highly recommended by the last 3 or 4 Vetrinarians we've used.

This goes back to the Vick thing. I love my dogs and they're spoiled rotten. We have 5 acres and they have the run of the joint. They sleep indoors at night. But, I ain't breaking the bank on the dogs. There's always a box or two of biscuit treats or bacon treats or rawhide bones as well for snacks. About once a week, they get some left-overs thrown into their food. It's not recommended, but I do it anyway behind the wife and kids backs because I love the dogs and they just go nuts over table food.

And, even though I won't break the bank on the latest "scientific" newest-bestest dog food (that cost a furtune), I don't recall any of my dogs NOT living out their life to AT LEAST the breeds average. And I've never had any major vet bills over the dogs being sickly because of their diet.

Go with BenaFuel. If it cost's as much to feed the dogs as it does to feed the kids, that's a little off kilter for me.............................

[REDVOLUTION]

YoMick...gotta LOVE that Husky. Beautiful pooch.


Thanks. She is a beauty. Feisty as all get out. Going 100mph about 90% of the time... then the last 10% out like a light. It makes me laugh.


I want the Samoyed Husky also.


No one is going to change their minds, but really, if you do ANY research on this, you'll realize that the name brand foods are crap. Really. I've got a list of a score rating based in ingredients of each food. I'll work on transcribing it later since it's in print. It's very enlightening.

You realize that some foods really shouldn't be called food at all.

This is what I am getting from all the research too.

I would really appreciate that list. Thanks.

[Heisenberg]

Thanks. She is a beauty. Feisty as all get out. Going 100mph about 90% of the time... then the last 10% out like a light. It makes me laugh.


I want the Samoyed Husky also.




This is what I am getting from all the research too.

I would really appreciate that list. Thanks.

I actually found a list that is pretty close to exactly the one I have in print. I think the one I have might have a couple of different brands included on the list this one doesn't have and vice versa, but the scoring system is the same:

How to grade your dog's food:

Start with a grade of 100:
1) For every listing of "by-product", subtract 10 points
2) For every non-specific animal source ("meat" or "poultry", meat, meal or fat) reference, subtract 10 points
3) If the food contains BHA, BHT, or ethoxyquin, subtract 10 points
4) For every grain "mill run" or non-specific grain source, subtract 5 points
5) If the same grain ingredient is used 2 or more times in the first five ingredients (i.e. "ground brown rice", "brewer?s rice", "rice flour" are all the same grain), subtract 5 points
6) If the protein sources are not meat meal and th ere are less than 2 meats in the top 3 ingredients, subtract 3 points
7) If it contains any artificial colorants, subtract 3 points
8 ) If it contains ground corn or whole grain corn, subtract 3 points
9) If corn is listed in the top 5 ingredients, subtract 2 more points
10) If the food contains any animal fat other than fish oil, subtract 2 po ints
11) If lamb is the only animal protein source (unless your dog is allergic to other protein sources), subtract 2 points
12) If it contains soy or soybeans, subtract 2 points
13) If it contains wheat (unless you know that your dog is not allergic to wheat), subtract 2 points
14) If it contains beef (unless you know that your dog is not allergic to beef), subtract 1 point
15) If it contains salt, subtract 1 point
Extra Credit:
1) If any of the meat sources are organic, add 5 points
2) If the food is endorsed by any major breed group or nutritionist, add 5 points
3) If the food is baked not extruded, a dd 5 points
4) If the food contains probiotics, add 3 points
5) If the food contains fruit, add 3 points
6) If the food contains vegetables (NOT corn or other grains), add 3 points
7) If the animal sources are hormone-free and antibiotic-free, add 2 points
8 ) If the food contains barley, add 2 points
9) If the food contains flax seed oil (not just the seeds), add 2 points
10) If the food contains oats or oatmeal, add 1 point
11) If the food contains sunflower oil, add 1 point
12) For every different specific animal protein source (other than the first one; count "chicken" and "chicken meal" as only one protein source, but "chicken" and "" as 2 different sources), add 1 point
13) If it contains glucosamine and chondroitin, add 1 point
14) If the vegetables have been tested for pesticides and are pesticide-free, add 1 point

94-100+ = A

86-93 = B

78-85 = C

70-77 = D

<70 = F

Some Dog Food scores:

Alpo Prime Cuts / Score 81 C
Artem is Large/Medium Breed Puppy / Score 114 A+
Authority Harvest Baked / Score 116 A+
Authority Harvest Baked Less Active / Score 93 B
Beowulf Back to Basics / Score 101 A+
Bil-Jac Select / Score 68 F
Blackwood 3000 Lamb and Rice / Score 83 C
Blue Buffalo Chicken and Rice / Score 106 A+
Burns Chicken and Brown Rice / Score 107 A+
Cani dae / Score 112 A+
Chicken Soup Senior / Score 115 A+
Diamond Maintenance / Score 64 F
Diamond Lamb Meal & Rice / Score 92 B
Diamond Large Breed 60+ Formula / Score 99 A
Diamond Performance / Score 85 C
Dick Van Patten's Natural Balance Ultra Premium / Score 122 A+
Dick Van Patten's Natural Balance Venison and Brown Rice / Score 106 A+
Dick Van Patten's Duck and Potato / Score 106 A+
EaglePack Holistic / Score 102 A+
Eukanuba Adult / Score 81 C
Eukanuba Puppy / Score 79 C
Flint River Senior / Score 101 A+
Foundations / Score 106 A+
Hund-n-Flocken Adult Dog (lamb) by Solid Gold / Score 93 B
Iams Lamb Meal & Rice Formula Premium / Score 73 D
Innova Dog / Score 114 A+
Innova Evo / Score 114 A+
Innova Large Breed Puppy / Score 122 A+
Kirkland Signature Chicken, Rice, and Vegetables / Score 110 A+
Member's Mark Chicken and Rice / Score 84 C
Merrick Wilderness Blend / Score 127 A+
Nature's Recipe / Score 100 A
N ature's Recipe Healthy Skin Venison and Rice / Score 116 A+
Nature's Variety Raw Instinct / Score 122 A+
Nutra Nuggets Super Premium Lamb Meal and Rice / Score 81 C
Nutrience Junior Medium Breed Puppy / Score 101 A+
Nutrisource Lamb and Rice / Score 87 B
Nutro Max Adult / Score 93 B
Nutro Natural Choice Lamb and Rice / Score 98 A
Nutro Natural Choice Large Breed Puppy / Score 87 B
Nutro Natural Choice Puppy Wheat Free / Score 86 B
Nutro Natural Choice Senior / Score 95 A
Nutro Ultra Adult / Score 104 A+
Pet Gold Adult with Lamb & Rice / Score 23 F
Premium Edge Chicken, Rice and Vegetables Adul t Dry / Score 109 A+
Pro Nature Puppy / Score 80 C
Pro Plan Sensitive Stomach / Score 94 A
Purina Beneful / Score 17 F
Purina Dog / Score 62 F
Purina Come-n-Get It / Score 16 F
Purina One Large Breed Puppy / Score 62 F
Royal Canin Boxer / Score 103 A+
Royal Canin Bulldog / Score 100 A+
Royal Canin Natural Blend Adult / Score 1 06 A+
Science Diet Advanced Protein Senior 7+ / Score 63 F
Science Diet for Large Breed Puppies / Score 69 F
Sensible Choice Chicken and Rice / Score 97 A
Solid Gold / Score 99 A
Summit / Score 99 A
Timberwolf Organics Wild & Natural Dry / Score 120 A+
Wellness Super5 Mix Chicken / Score 110 A+
Wolfking Adult Dog (bison) by Solid Gold / Score 97 A

[lewpac]

I actually found a list that is pretty close to exactly the one I have in print. I think the one I have might have a couple of different brands included on the list this one doesn't have and vice versa, but the scoring system is the same:

How to grade your dog's food:

Start with a grade of 100:
1) For every listing of "by-product", subtract 10 points
2) For every non-specific animal source ("meat" or "poultry", meat, meal or fat) reference, subtract 10 points
3) If the food contains BHA, BHT, or ethoxyquin, subtract 10 points
4) For every grain "mill run" or non-specific grain source, subtract 5 points
5) If the same grain ingredient is used 2 or more times in the first five ingredients (i.e. "ground brown rice", "brewer?s rice", "rice flour" are all the same grain), subtract 5 points
6) If the protein sources are not meat meal and th ere are less than 2 meats in the top 3 ingredients, subtract 3 points
7) If it contains any artificial colorants, subtract 3 points
8 ) If it contains ground corn or whole grain corn, subtract 3 points
9) If corn is listed in the top 5 ingredients, subtract 2 more points
10) If the food contains any animal fat other than fish oil, subtract 2 po ints
11) If lamb is the only animal protein source (unless your dog is allergic to other protein sources), subtract 2 points
12) If it contains soy or soybeans, subtract 2 points
13) If it contains wheat (unless you know that your dog is not allergic to wheat), subtract 2 points
14) If it contains beef (unless you know that your dog is not allergic to beef), subtract 1 point
15) If it contains salt, subtract 1 point
Extra Credit:
1) If any of the meat sources are organic, add 5 points
2) If the food is endorsed by any major breed group or nutritionist, add 5 points
3) If the food is baked not extruded, a dd 5 points
4) If the food contains probiotics, add 3 points
5) If the food contains fruit, add 3 points
6) If the food contains vegetables (NOT corn or other grains), add 3 points
7) If the animal sources are hormone-free and antibiotic-free, add 2 points
8 ) If the food contains barley, add 2 points
9) If the food contains flax seed oil (not just the seeds), add 2 points
10) If the food contains oats or oatmeal, add 1 point
11) If the food contains sunflower oil, add 1 point
12) For every different specific animal protein source (other than the first one; count "chicken" and "chicken meal" as only one protein source, but "chicken" and "" as 2 different sources), add 1 point
13) If it contains glucosamine and chondroitin, add 1 point
14) If the vegetables have been tested for pesticides and are pesticide-free, add 1 point

94-100+ = A

86-93 = B

78-85 = C

70-77 = D

<70 = F

Some Dog Food scores:

Alpo Prime Cuts / Score 81 C
Artem is Large/Medium Breed Puppy / Score 114 A+
Authority Harvest Baked / Score 116 A+
Authority Harvest Baked Less Active / Score 93 B
Beowulf Back to Basics / Score 101 A+
Bil-Jac Select / Score 68 F
Blackwood 3000 Lamb and Rice / Score 83 C
Blue Buffalo Chicken and Rice / Score 106 A+
Burns Chicken and Brown Rice / Score 107 A+
Cani dae / Score 112 A+
Chicken Soup Senior / Score 115 A+
Diamond Maintenance / Score 64 F
Diamond Lamb Meal & Rice / Score 92 B
Diamond Large Breed 60+ Formula / Score 99 A
Diamond Performance / Score 85 C
Dick Van Patten's Natural Balance Ultra Premium / Score 122 A+
Dick Van Patten's Natural Balance Venison and Brown Rice / Score 106 A+
Dick Van Patten's Duck and Potato / Score 106 A+
EaglePack Holistic / Score 102 A+
Eukanuba Adult / Score 81 C
Eukanuba Puppy / Score 79 C
Flint River Senior / Score 101 A+
Foundations / Score 106 A+
Hund-n-Flocken Adult Dog (lamb) by Solid Gold / Score 93 B
Iams Lamb Meal & Rice Formula Premium / Score 73 D
Innova Dog / Score 114 A+
Innova Evo / Score 114 A+
Innova Large Breed Puppy / Score 122 A+
Kirkland Signature Chicken, Rice, and Vegetables / Score 110 A+
Member's Mark Chicken and Rice / Score 84 C
Merrick Wilderness Blend / Score 127 A+
Nature's Recipe / Score 100 A
N ature's Recipe Healthy Skin Venison and Rice / Score 116 A+
Nature's Variety Raw Instinct / Score 122 A+
Nutra Nuggets Super Premium Lamb Meal and Rice / Score 81 C
Nutrience Junior Medium Breed Puppy / Score 101 A+
Nutrisource Lamb and Rice / Score 87 B
Nutro Max Adult / Score 93 B
Nutro Natural Choice Lamb and Rice / Score 98 A
Nutro Natural Choice Large Breed Puppy / Score 87 B
Nutro Natural Choice Puppy Wheat Free / Score 86 B
Nutro Natural Choice Senior / Score 95 A
Nutro Ultra Adult / Score 104 A+
Pet Gold Adult with Lamb & Rice / Score 23 F
Premium Edge Chicken, Rice and Vegetables Adul t Dry / Score 109 A+
Pro Nature Puppy / Score 80 C
Pro Plan Sensitive Stomach / Score 94 A
Purina Beneful / Score 17 F
Purina Dog / Score 62 F
Purina Come-n-Get It / Score 16 F
Purina One Large Breed Puppy / Score 62 F
Royal Canin Boxer / Score 103 A+
Royal Canin Bulldog / Score 100 A+
Royal Canin Natural Blend Adult / Score 1 06 A+
Science Diet Advanced Protein Senior 7+ / Score 63 F
Science Diet for Large Breed Puppies / Score 69 F
Sensible Choice Chicken and Rice / Score 97 A
Solid Gold / Score 99 A
Summit / Score 99 A
Timberwolf Organics Wild & Natural Dry / Score 120 A+
Wellness Super5 Mix Chicken / Score 110 A+
Wolfking Adult Dog (bison) by Solid Gold / Score 97 A

I just gotta' tell ya........................

Anyone who spends THIS amount of TIME and CONCERN over Dog Food...........!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?:rolleyes::rolleyes ::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

[Heisenberg]

I just gotta' tell ya........................

Anyone who spends THIS amount of TIME and CONCERN over Dog Food...........!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?:rolleyes::rolleyes ::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

At least someone does so that I can buy it without having to put the time into that they did.

[lewpac]

At least someone does so that I can buy it without having to put the time into that they did.

Like I said before, I have dogs. ALWAYS have had dogs. And cats. Two horses and a cow too. I love animals and all my animals, especially the dogs are spoiled rotten.

But anytime I hear some water-head talking about "my animals are like my kids" or "just like kids".....................or are WAY overboard about such benign things as DOG FOOD, that's insane.

Animals don't come home pregnant or drug addicted and break your heart. Dogs don't get D's and F's at school and cause you problems. Animals don't go through breaking up with their first boyfriend at 13 and want to commit suicide. Animals don't marry the wrong person. Animals don't bring rap music into your home, and are not in danger of internet predators. Dogs don't sass back to their mother, and you have to come home and handle it. Animals don't open the fridge door and stand there for 5 minutes wondering if they want to eat something in there or not. Animals don't strike out three times in the big game and it falls on you to make it all right. Animals aren't interested in being a part of the "in crowd" at school. Dogs don't need clothing and school supplies and athletic equipment.

And finally, if you scold or slap your animal, you don't get arrested and investigated by Child Protective Services.

None of these things have happened to me FYI. But I've seen it and known folks who've lived it, and it ain't pretty. So, the next time you tell someone about YOUR kids, and they say "Well, my two dogs and my cat are the same thing", just walk away. You're trying to talk to an insane person........

[adamc91115]

Nutro... Its all my Lab eats and he loves it.

[CowboyFan74]

I own 7 dogs and 3 cats.

http://www.petsofhomeless.org/photogallery/Web%20Frano%201.jpg

http://steelturman.typepad.com/photos/uncategorized/bag_lady.JPG

http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj306/Kashim_2008/cat_and_gun.jpg

I'm surprised you have an Internet connection on the streets of Laredo...:lmao2:

[heavyg]

I really like Diamond brand either lamb and rice or chicken and rice. For the money you can't beat it.

[Rack Bauer]

Like I said before, I have dogs. ALWAYS have had dogs. And cats. Two horses and a cow too. I love animals and all my animals, especially the dogs are spoiled rotten.

But anytime I hear some water-head talking about "my animals are like my kids" or "just like kids".....................or are WAY overboard about such benign things as DOG FOOD, that's insane.

Animals don't come home pregnant or drug addicted and break your heart. Dogs don't get D's and F's at school and cause you problems. Animals don't go through breaking up with their first boyfriend at 13 and want to commit suicide. Animals don't marry the wrong person. Animals don't bring rap music into your home, and are not in danger of internet predators. Dogs don't sass back to their mother, and you have to come home and handle it. Animals don't open the fridge door and stand there for 5 minutes wondering if they want to eat something in there or not. Animals don't strike out three times in the big game and it falls on you to make it all right. Animals aren't interested in being a part of the "in crowd" at school. Dogs don't need clothing and school supplies and athletic equipment.

And finally, if you scold or slap your animal, you don't get arrested and investigated by Child Protective Services.

None of these things have happened to me FYI. But I've seen it and known folks who've lived it, and it ain't pretty. So, the next time you tell someone about YOUR kids, and they say "Well, my two dogs and my cat are the same thing", just walk away. You're trying to talk to an insane person........

My animals ARE my kids. You got a freakin' problem with that?

[Heisenberg]

My animals ARE my kids. You got a freakin' problem with that?

No kiddin'. I'm not a "water-head" because I consider my animals to be like kids to me. My wife and I have basically decided we're not doing the child thing, so we fill that "void" with our animals.

[Scranton Tiger]

I have a Shar-Pei and a Golden Retreiver/Lab Retreiver mix both seven years old and a stray I took home from work about four years ago. The guys I work with say she's a **** Eater. :rolleyes: Anyway, I feed my dogs Purina One. Started with the Lamb and Rice formula. Switched to the Healthy Weight formula after my vet said they were getting a little too heavy. They love it and the vet says it's a good food so I'll go with that. Occasional (once every two or three weeks) they get some treats like biscuits, ham scraps or a steak bone. Another plus with the Purina One is the weight circles that you can cash in. I use them to get my nephew a $75 gift card to Bass Pro Shops at Christmas each year.

Of course you could go the route my Parents do. They have a Shar-Pei and a Cocker Spaniel and neither have ever been fed dog food. They get a fresh cooked Chicken Perleau each week.

[lane]

My animals ARE my kids. You got a freakin' problem with that?

what's you're blood pressure run?

you have some deep anger issues that are going to cause you some health problems if you are not careful.

[Heisenberg]

Of course you could go the route my Parents do. They have a Shar-Pei and a Cocker Spaniel and neither have ever been fed dog food. They get a fresh cooked Chicken Perleau each week.

Supposedly, making the food yourself is the best way to go. It's just less convenient and usually more expensive than just buying dog food. I've really started seriously thinking about going that route myself.

http://www.barfworld.com/

It's definitely interesting.

[Rack Bauer]

what's you're blood pressure run?

you have some deep anger issues that are going to cause you some health problems if you are not careful.

Amazing. You can sense "Anger" by reading posts on the internet.


You're talented.

[FloridaRob]

Funny thing about Vets is I have a 4 yr old Bichon. The first vet I brought him to recommended the Science Diet. I kept him on that the first year. He rarely ate it. I changed Vets after a year and the new vet did not like the Science Diet. I did some research and found the best food without any kind of preservatives was Solid Gold. Since then my Dog has never changed foods. He loves the Bison and I am more than satisfied with that food. Witth that said it is a shame that I make sure that my Dog eats better than I do.

[lewpac]

No kiddin'. I'm not a "water-head" because I consider my animals to be like kids to me. My wife and I have basically decided we're not doing the child thing, so we fill that "void" with our animals.

No, you are a "water-head". And to that other dreamer, yeah, I DO have a problem with it.

If you think that dogs and cats are on the level of having children, then your life is devoid of anything having anything to do with rational sanity.

It speaks to the insanity and nuts that populate modern society. A life so empty and bankrupt that we now equate a dog or cat to the human experience.

Animals are living creatures worthy of our affection, love and commitment to care for them. If you own an animal, you owe it to that creature to tend to it's health, comfort and needs. But it ends there................

The difference between having a pet and having a child, is that the dog or cat is there for MY ENJOYMENT. It's something that I DECIDE to have in MY LIFE to make MY LIFE better. Other people, especially children, do not exist for MY SELFISH DESIRES!! People are not appliances or a hobby or something to have around to occupy my time. The people I chose to have in my life, especially my immediate family, are there for me to serve and to bless and to take care of. It's not about ME. It's about THEM.

The dogs and cats and horses and cows are there because it's something I chose to incorporate into my life to make MY LIFE more whole. On par with my golf clubs, my pool table, my sports car, etc...............

Get it? THAT'S THE DIFFERENCE. Pets are and "elective" part of life that you could do without. Pets aren't necessary. My children ARE NECESSARY.

It's an insult to those of us with kids to hear water-heads equate their Poodle or their Siamese cat to the level of my daughters or my son. In fact, it's so insulting, that if anyone compared their dog to my kid, I'd spit right in their face.............................

[Rack Bauer]

No, you are a "water-head". And to that other dreamer, yeah, I DO have a problem with it.

If you think that dogs and cats are on the level of having children, then your life is devoid of anything having anything to do with rational sanity.

It speaks to the insanity and nuts that populate modern society. A life so empty and bankrupt that we now equate a dog or cat to the human experience.

Animals are living creatures worthy of our affection, love and commitment to care for them. If you own an animal, you owe it to that creature to tend to it's health, comfort and needs. But it ends there................

The difference between having a pet and having a child, is that the dog or cat is there for MY ENJOYMENT. It's something that I DECIDE to have in MY LIFE to make MY LIFE better. Other people, especially children, do not exist for MY SELFISH DESIRES!! People are not appliances or a hobby or something to have around to occupy my time. The people I chose to have in my life, especially my immediate family, are there for me to serve and to bless and to take care of. It's not about ME. It's about THEM.

The dogs and cats and horses and cows are there because it's something I chose to incorporate into my life to make MY LIFE more whole. On par with my golf clubs, my pool table, my sports car, etc...............

Get it? THAT'S THE DIFFERENCE. Pets are and "elective" part of life that you could do without. Pets aren't necessary. My children ARE NECESSARY.

It's an insult to those of us with kids to hear water-heads equate their Poodle or their Siamese cat to the level of my daughters or my son. In fact, it's so insulting, that if anyone compared their dog to my kid, I'd spit right in their face.............................

1. You got a problem with it, do something about it. You're words mean nothing to me.


2. My dog is ABOVE your kid. I don't give a crap about your kid. My dogs (part of my FAMILY) are higher up the ladder by a long shot. Now, come spit in my face, and see what happens.

[lewpac]

1. You got a problem with it, do something about it. You're words mean nothing to me.


2. My dog is ABOVE your kid. I don't give a crap about your kid. My dogs (part of my FAMILY) are higher up the ladder by a long shot. Now, come spit in my face, and see what happens.

Now I know why a water head like you joined the Army at the age of 65 (or what ever)...........................

[lewpac]

Well? Where you at water head?

Out sniffin' crotch with your dog-family?

[lewpac]

Still not there, huh?

Must be takin' a bath like the dogs in your "family". You know, lickin' your own privates.....................................

[lewpac]

Oh well. Get back to me when you can....................

Must be taking your monthly "dog-bath" with the rest of your "dog-family".

[Heisenberg]

Still not there, huh?

Must be takin' a bath like the dogs in your "family". You know, lickin' your own privates.....................................

What's your deal man? Let it go. Do you honestly think others are always going to share the same value system that you do and that those who don't are "water-heads"?

[CowboyFan74]

1. You got a problem with it, do something about it. You're words mean nothing to me.


2. My dog is ABOVE your kid. I don't give a crap about your kid. My dogs (part of my FAMILY) are higher up the ladder by a long shot. Now, come spit in my face, and see what happens.

"Federal Agent" or Internet Rambo???:laugh2:

[lewpac]

What's your deal man? Let it go. Do you honestly think others are always going to share the same value system that you do and that those who don't are "water-heads"?

No.

It's a free country. Think whatever you want to think.

It's one thing to be thought of as an idiot. But then to open the mouth and remove all doubt is another.

I've got a thick skin and really don't give a crap what others think or do. But to allow someone to call a dog or a cat their "kid", sorry. I just can't resist that WIDE OPEN invitation to confer upon that person the label of "water head".

It's not about my "value system". In life, there's still good and bad, right and wrong, common sense and "water heads". This one is easy...............

[adamc91115]

Well? Where you at water head?

Out sniffin' crotch with your dog-family?

You need a mental evaluation.

Let me add... My dog > Your kid.

[Rack Bauer]

No.

It's a free country. Think whatever you want to think.

It's one thing to be thought of as an idiot. But then to open the mouth and remove all doubt is another.

I've got a thick skin and really don't give a crap what others think or do. But to allow someone to call a dog or a cat their "kid", sorry. I just can't resist that WIDE OPEN invitation to confer upon that person the label of "water head".

It's not about my "value system". In life, there's still good and bad, right and wrong, common sense and "water heads". This one is easy...............


Then you should have kept your mouth (or keyboard) shut, Nancy.

[lewpac]

I was ready to congratulate this water head for joining the Army middle-aged. But something didn't quite add up until now. NOW, I get it.

Answer me this Mr. "My dog is my kid" water head.................

If your child breaks his leg at the age of 6 yrs. old, and it's gonna' cost you $1,500.00 to fix it; How many doctors give you the option of either paying to have it fixed or put "it" to sleep? How many hospitals give you 24 hours to "think it over", the medical cost over euthanization?

Every, and I mean EVERY time something like this has happened to a dog or cat I've owned (and it's been SEVERAL), the OPTION is ALWAYS part of the prognosis.

If you're driving your truck, get in an accident, and the dog dies............what's the legal punishment? If you're driving your truck, get in an accident, and YOU KID DIES, what happens?

If your dog doesn't show up at school for over a month, what happens?
If your child doesn't show up at school for A WEEK, what happens.?

If your dog is pregnant with a litter of 7, she has 5 and 2 die, what effect does it have on your life?
If you wife is pregnant, and the child dies 4 hours after it's born, what effect will that have on your life?

Want me to go on????????????????

Anyone who thinks a pet is a child is a moron!

[Rack Bauer]

A doctor's "option" is irrelevant. My dog breaks his leg, putting it to "Sleep" is not an option. Period.


And I don't give a rat's a** about your opinion regarding me joining the army. You can stick your opinion right up your a**.



You don't have to agree with my view/feelings towards my animals, but I'll be damned if some POS is gonna criticize me for my views. My views have absolutely NO EFFECT on your life so I don't understand why you're getting all pissy about it.


The world isn't black & white, Nancy. Maybe it's about time you learn that.



And comparing my child's death to that of my dog's child is nowhere remotely the same. I'm not married to my dog, Genius. It's wouldn't be MY kid dying, it's my dog's kid.


Again, I don't care if you feel the same way about your animals that I do about mine, but don't go criticizing me about it. I'm not criticizing you and your views. Try a little respect.

[lewpac]

Here's a couple more for ya'...............

Your "dog-child" gets leukemia. You know, your "son-dog" or your "daughter-dog". How many of you "dog-child's" family members come around to support their "relative" in their time of need? How many of your "dog-kid's" relatives come to the hospital to visit? The Funeral?

Your "dog-part-of-the-FAMILY" goes missing. Runs away or gets abducted. Maybe hit be a car and left to die, but nobody's seen the "child" for days. What do you do? Rarely, people put some little ad in the paper about the missing part of the "family". Usually, just a few telephone polls with fliers stapled to it. Showing the "child" and when the "family member" went missing. After a few rainy days, your "childs" picture on the cheap computer print-out is barely legible and becomes an eye-sore. You just go get another "dog-kid" shortly thereafter.

That's a wee-bit different scenario than what would happen if your ACTUAL CHILD GOES MISSING!!!

Please.......................do you REALLY want to go on and on and on with such an assinine and moronic discussion?

Love your dog. Treat him well. Spoil him rotten as I do. But please, don't embarrass yourself with calling some pet "my kid". It has "idiot" written all over it.......................

[CowboyFan74]

http://go-dl3.eve-files.com/media/0608/pot_kettle_black.jpg

[Rack Bauer]

Here's a couple more for ya'...............

Your "dog-child" gets leukemia. You know, your "son-dog" or your "daughter-dog". How many of you "dog-child's" family members come around to support their "relative" in their time of need? How many of your "dog-kid's" relatives come to the hospital to visit? The Funeral?

Your "dog-part-of-the-FAMILY" goes missing. Runs away or gets abducted. Maybe hit be a car and left to die, but nobody's seen the "child" for days. What do you do? Rarely, people put some little ad in the paper about the missing part of the "family". Usually, just a few telephone polls with fliers stapled to it. Showing the "child" and when the "family member" went missing. After a few rainy days, your "childs" picture on the cheap computer print-out is barely legible and becomes an eye-sore. You just go get another "dog-kid" shortly thereafter.

That's a wee-bit different scenario than what would happen if your ACTUAL CHILD GOES MISSING!!!

Please.......................do you REALLY want to go on and on and on with such an assinine and moronic discussion?

Love your dog. Treat him well. Spoil him rotten as I do. But please, don't embarrass yourself with calling some pet "my kid". It has "idiot" written all over it.......................


Again, why do my opinions/views bother you so much?


My dogs are my kids. Don't like it? Tough.



Not being tolerant of other's personal views towards their dogs/cats has MORON written all over it.

[lewpac]

A doctor's "option" is irrelevant. My dog breaks his leg, putting it to "Sleep" is not an option. Period.


And I don't give a rat's a** about your opinion regarding me joining the army. You can stick your opinion right up your a**.



You don't have to agree with my view/feelings towards my animals, but I'll be damned if some POS is gonna criticize me for my views. My views have absolutely NO EFFECT on your life so I don't understand why you're getting all pissy about it.


The world isn't black & white, Nancy. Maybe it's about time you learn that.



And comparing my child's death to that of my dog's child is nowhere remotely the same. I'm not married to my dog, Genius. It's wouldn't be MY kid dying, it's my dog's kid.


Again, I don't care if you feel the same way about your animals that I do about mine, but don't go criticizing me about it. I'm not criticizing you and your views. Try a little respect.

Your little tactic of calling those who've got you figured out "Nancy" ain't gonna' work in the Army or if your in a conflict. So I'd adjust your game a little if I were you....................

Also, the last bastion of argument, when your expired of any reason, is to call other names (like "waterhead"), so I've got you figured out there too. The only difference is, is that you actually being a "waterhead" is true, so it's applicable to the conversation...............

Listen. Go join the Army. The dog won't know the difference after about a week that it's with another owner. All the dog cares about is where his next eats are coming from, a place to sleep, and some schlep petting it every now and then............you'll soon be forgotten by your "family-child-dog" as soon as the next guy ponies up with the grub. That's what dogs do.

When you get back, (and I hope you do come back safe and sound and healthy), the dog-family-child you so adore will either have forgotten about you totally, or be long ago dead. And nobody's life will be altered one iota over "the dog".

Aloha, good health, and thank you for defending our country. Have a kid or two also. Then, maybe, you'll get what I'm trying to educate you about......

P.S. I'm not interested in "tolerance" and "respecting your opinions". I'm interested in sanity.

[Scranton Tiger]

Anyone who thinks a pet is a child is a moron!
No, anyone who blows a gasket on a message board because someone else has a different view or belief from them, THAT person is a moron.

[lewpac]

No, anyone who blows a gasket on a message board because someone else has a different view or belief from them, THAT person is a moron.

Yeah, well, Ted Bundy, Charles Manson, and Adolf Hitler had "a different point of view" and a "different belief from me" too. Someone has to "blow a gasket" over total idiocy every now and again. Might as well be me..........................

I say this because, not comparing anything said here to those guys, but "understanding" and "tolerance" and "opinions" are not the be-all and end-all. Some "opinions" don't get to be "respected" and "tolerated". Again.............ANYONE who calls a pet their "Children" or "Family"..........................total idiot.

[Scranton Tiger]

Yeah, well, Ted Bundy, Charles Manson, and Adolf Hitler had "a different point of view" and a "different belief from me" too. Someone has to "blow a gasket" over total idiocy every now and again. Might as well be me..........................
The fact that you bring up Bundy, Manson and Hitler on a message board in a post about dog food says all we need to know about your state of mind.

FYI, Manson and Hitler also thought the same way you do. IE, those that didn't believe EXACTLY as they did were not tolarated.

[REDVOLUTION]

At least someone does so that I can buy it without having to put the time into that they did.

I went ahead and rearranged them in the number order. Easy to see what is what.


Merrick Wilderness Blend / Score 127 A+
Nature's Variety Raw Instinct / Score 122 A+
Dick Van Patten's Natural Balance Ultra Premium / Score 122 A+
Innova Large Breed Puppy / Score 122 A+
Timberwolf Organics Wild & Natural Dry / Score 120 A+
Nature's Recipe Healthy Skin Venison and Rice / Score 116 A+
Authority Harvest Baked / Score 116 A+
Chicken Soup Senior / Score 115 A+
Artem is Large/Medium Breed Puppy / Score 114 A+
Innova Dog / Score 114 A+
Innova Evo / Score 114 A+
Canidae / Score 112 A+
Wellness Super5 Mix Chicken / Score 110 A+

Kirkland Signature Chicken, Rice, and Vegetables / Score 110 A+
Premium Edge Chicken, Rice and Vegetables Adul t Dry / Score 109 A+
Burns Chicken and Brown Rice / Score 107 A+
Royal Canin Natural Blend Adult / Score 106 A+
Blue Buffalo Chicken and Rice / Score 106 A+
Dick Van Patten's Natural Balance Venison and Brown Rice / Score 106 A+
Dick Van Patten's Duck and Potato / Score 106 A+
Foundations / Score 106 A+
Nutro Ultra Adult / Score 104 A+
Royal Canin Boxer / Score 103 A+
EaglePack Holistic / Score 102 A+
Nutrience Junior Medium Breed Puppy / Score 101 A+
Beowulf Back to Basics / Score 101 A+
Flint River Senior / Score 101 A+
Royal Canin Bulldog / Score 100 A+
Nature's Recipe / Score 100 A

Diamond Large Breed 60+ Formula / Score 99 A
Solid Gold / Score 99 A
Summit / Score 99 A
Nutro Natural Choice Lamb and Rice / Score 98 A
Sensible Choice Chicken and Rice / Score 97 A
Wolfking Adult Dog (bison) by Solid Gold / Score 97 A
Nutro Natural Choice Senior / Score 95 A
Pro Plan Sensitive Stomach / Score 94 A
Authority Harvest Baked Less Active / Score 93 B
Hund-n-Flocken Adult Dog (lamb) by Solid Gold / Score 93 B
Nutro Max Adult / Score 93 B
Diamond Lamb Meal & Rice / Score 92 B

Nutrisource Lamb and Rice / Score 87 B
Nutro Natural Choice Large Breed Puppy / Score 87 B
Nutro Natural Choice Puppy Wheat Free / Score 86 B
Diamond Performance / Score 85 C
Member's Mark Chicken and Rice / Score 84 C
Blackwood 3000 Lamb and Rice / Score 83 C
Nutra Nuggets Super Premium Lamb Meal and Rice / Score 81 C
Eukanuba Adult / Score 81 C
Alpo Prime Cuts / Score 81 C
Pro Nature Puppy / Score 80 C
Eukanuba Puppy / Score 79 C
Iams Lamb Meal & Rice Formula Premium / Score 73 D

Science Diet for Large Breed Puppies / Score 69 F
Bil-Jac Select / Score 68 F
Diamond Maintenance / Score 64 F
Science Diet Advanced Protein Senior 7+ / Score 63 F
Purina Dog / Score 62 F
Purina One Large Breed Puppy / Score 62 F
Pet Gold Adult with Lamb & Rice / Score 23 F
Purina Beneful / Score 17 F
Purina Come-n-Get It / Score 16 F

[Rack Bauer]

The fact that you bring up Bundy, Manson and Hitler on a message board in a post about dog food says all we need to know about your state of mind.

FYI, Manson and Hitler also thought the same way you do. IE, those that didn't believe EXACTLY as they did were not tolarated.



Owned.

[bbgun]

What the hell's a waterhead?

[crazytown41]

Sounds like someone is on their period. Nobody was comparing the importance of an animal and a child until you did.

I can't believe someone actually compared the medical procedures and legal ramifications of a dog and a human being.:lmao:

Of course doctors can do more on humans than animals because i don't know......THEY'RE HUMAN!! :lmao:

Of course the legal system can do more on humans than animals because I don't know......THEY'RE HUMAN!!:lmao:

Who said animals were more important than kids? Rack said he values his animals LIKE a child. He didn't say MORE than a child.

Rack appears to not have any kids so of course he values his animals more because he doesn't have kids. How can you put a value on something you don't have?

I'm sure if given the choice to save his son/daughter or his dog, he'd choose his child. At least I hope so. :confused:

[the kid 05]

What the hell's a waterhead?

1. Water Head 180 up (http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=water+head#), 31 down (http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=water+head#) http://www.urbandictionary.com/images/thumbsup.gif (http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=water+head#)http://www.urbandictionary.com/images/thumbsdown.gif (http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=water+head#)
A person with mental health problems, ie downs syndrome, or retard for the lay person.

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=water+head

I do believe that is a violation of the board rules that calls for a banning/suspension...

[REDVOLUTION]

What the heck happened to my thread?

Sheesh....


Can I have some more advice/opinions on dog food please? :)

[Rowdy]

What the heck happened to my thread?

Sheesh....


Can I have some more advice/opinions on dog food please? :)

LOL! :D

[DallasCowpoke]

Can I have some more advice/opinions on dog food please?

Don't eat any. Trust me, it all tastes awful!!!

:p:

[CowboyFan74]

I do believe that is a violation of the board rules that calls for a banning/suspension...


It's the off season, most of the mods are giving us slack.:D

[Cowboys2008]

Science Diet is the best brand of dog food you can give your dog (By FAR) and don't EVER give your dog canned food, unless you enjoy paying 100's of dollars on your dogs' dental bills.

Canned dog food is basically all I have ever given my dog. 2 cans a day. And NEVER had one dental problem. In fact, I just got a new vet last year and he was absolutely floored by the quality of teeth my dog had for a 10 year old, let alone any point of which dog food I fed him.

And as far as dog food goes, only Ol-Roy- Walmarts Brand. Won't give my dogs any thing else. 25 years of healthy dogs feeding them nothing else. 1 can in the morning, 1 can in the evening and all the dry ol-roy dog food he wants throughout the day (which usually equals 1 scoop per day- and also Ol-Roy Brand). Like I said, he's 10 and a practical "picture of health", all while NOT over spending on dog food either.

As long as they get something crunchy to eat, their teeth are going to be alright. It's when you start feeding them table scraps or other stuff which can get stuck in their teeth. If you do that though, just give them a treat afterwards. That's what they're for really, dental hygiene.

As far as Ol-Roy Dog Food goes though, it's basically Pedigree without the price. I also have always liked the fact that Sam Walton, himself, had this food specifically designed for his own dog, Ol' Roy.

Then comparison-wise, I've never found anything that seemed that much better, nor which any my dogs would ever eat. And ever since the new "stew-style" foods have come out, my current dog wouldn't touch anything else. He gets a healthy variety, daily. Virtually able to go almost an entire week without ever eating the same thing twice. Even been feeding him it so long he practically knows each flavor by name.

Speaking of which, look at the time, I gotta go feed him. And looking like "Mixed Grill" for him tonight..

[the kid 05]

It's the off season, most of the mods are giving us slack.:D

Sweet mother marry #($%&$(#*%&(@#$_(#@&$)(*@#)($*&)(@*#&$) Joesph

:D

[Cowboys2008]

My dog isn't "my kid". He is a part of my family though. And just as important as myself in this thing I call a family. To me he's more like a "brother" or a "best-friend" though, not a "kid". He's my bud and I just want to be as good a friend to him as he's always been to me.

[the kid 05]

My dog isn't "my kid". He is a part of my family though. And just as important as myself in this thing I call a family. To me he's more like a "brother" or a "best-friend" though, not a "kid". He's my bud and I just want to be as good a friend to him as he's always been to me.

god what a waterhead...

[Rack Bauer]

Canned dog food is basically all I have ever given my dog. 2 cans a day. And NEVER had one dental problem.

Sorry but I call BS here. I worked at a vet long enough to see a crap ton of dogs with bad teeth, and almost every owner had their dog on canned food or gave them scraps regularly.


I'd highly recommend switching to dry. The problem with their teeth doesn't stop at their teeth. Eventually the tartar buildup will get into their heart and will cause heart problems (especially in older dogs).



It's not rocket science, if they don't eat/chew anything to clean their teeth (dry food) then their teeth don't get cleaned. And 1 or 2 milk bones a day won't get the job done.

[CowboyFan74]

Canned dog food is basically all I have ever given my dog. 2 cans a day.

That's animal abuse. Try living on nothing but bacon for 2 years, then lets look at those arteries. Your killing your animal man...

[the kid 05]

That's animal abuse. Try living on nothing but bacon for 2 years, then lets look at those arteries. Your killing your animal man...

can't eat bacon for some reason, every time i do its up chuck time id never do that to my dog :mad:

[jackrussell]

If your dog doesn't show up at school for over a month, what happens?

Mine got kicked off the debate team, and he missed graduation.

I did make him get his G.E.D.

Hey, if he could do it...so can you. Good ruck.

[Rack Bauer]

can't eat bacon for some reason, every time i do its up chuck time id never do that to my dog :mad:

I get that way with bacon bits, but not regular bacon. Weird.

[the kid 05]

I get that way with bacon bits, but not regular bacon. Weird.

it truely is, people say its the grease but i can eat the grease pizza's we have here in Chicago but not bacon :o:

[DallasCowpoke]

it truely is, people say its the grease but i can eat the grease pizza's we have here in Chicago but not bacon :o:

Maybe you're Jewish and your parents just forgot to tell you you were adopted.

[Yeagermeister]

Maybe you're Jewish and your parents just forgot to tell you you were adopted.

You think someone would adopt a kid like him? ;)

j/k

[Bob Sacamano]

You think someone would adopt a kid like him? ;)

j/k

seriously

thekid is crazy

[DallasCowpoke]

You think someone would adopt a kid like him?


A crazy lady from Conn, who mistook him for a chimp?

[Yeagermeister]

A crazy lady from Conn, who mistook him for a chimp?

Nah chimps are cute :D

[numnuts23]

You'll laugh at the name...but for the price...this stuff is great!

It also gets pretty good reviews by some consumer sites.

http://www.chickensoupforthepetloverssoul.com/

[CowboyFan74]

I get that way with bacon bits, but not regular bacon. Weird.

Soy intolerance. Or are you talking about the real bacon bits, not Bacos...

[Rack Bauer]

Soy intolerance. Or are you talking about the real bacon bits, not Bacos...

I'm talking about Bacos (and bacon bits). The stuff that isn't "Real" bacon. Cuz I've bought bacon pieces made from real bacon and didn't have any problems with them at all. But those bacos, they taste great, but they mess my stomach up.

[CowboyFan74]

I'm talking about Bacos (and bacon bits). The stuff that isn't "Real" bacon. Cuz I've bought bacon pieces made from real bacon and didn't have any problems with them at all. But those bacos, they taste great, but they mess my stomach up.


http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Does_Bacos_contain_bacon

While there are a lot of brands of bacon bits (using real bacon flavor), the "classic" Betty Crocker brand is made of soy, (and no MSG, if it bothers you). It's a great way for vegetarians and kosher-eating people to have a "bacon-like" experience.

My wife has the same problem so now she buys the real ones made by hormel..

http://www.hormel.com/products/pantry/BaconBits.aspx


Man you are delicate, sure you wanna enlist?:p:

[Rack Bauer]

http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Does_Bacos_contain_bacon



My wife has the same problem so now she buys the real ones made by hormel..

http://www.hormel.com/products/pantry/BaconBits.aspx


Man you are delicate, sure you wanna enlist?:p:

Well I can enlist, or I can lose everything I own and go live on the streets.

I think I'll enlist.



And I've always had stomach problems. Ever since I was a little kid.

[DallasCowpoke]

2. My dog is ABOVE your kid. I don't give a crap about your kid. My dogs (part of my FAMILY) are higher up the ladder by a long shot. Now, come spit in my face, and see what happens.

WOW, overreact much!?

LOL... I'll give you 3 weeks at basic.

[Rack Bauer]

WOW, overreact much!?

LOL... I'll give you 3 weeks at basic.

Put your money where you mouth is, Chico.

[theogt]

My dog only gets Science Diet. That and a piece of bacon or steak on occasion.

[CliffnMesquite]

I like Alpo. But Iams gives me gas. :)