View Full Version : NFL | Penn St WR Derrick Williams had meeting with Cowboys
WoodysGirl
02-21-2009, 04:33 PM
NFL | D. Williams feels he can help a team in multiple ways
Penn State WR Derrick Williams (http://www.kffl.com/player/21061/nfl) said he has spoken with the Dallas Cowboys (http://www.kffl.com/team/14/nfl), Indianapolis Colts (http://www.kffl.com/team/19/nfl) and "a lot of different ones in informal meetings" at the NFL Scouting Combine (http://www.kffl.com/link/183). Williams noted he played quarterback in high school and feels he can be a threat as a receiver, return man or in the backfield if needed.
2009-02-21 11:02:18
miamicowboy21
02-21-2009, 04:57 PM
Good player. I was upset he choose PSU over my gators on NSD, but I remember him saying he wanted to help rebuild Penn St back up again into a national power. The guy can move and he has great character.
SDogo
02-21-2009, 04:59 PM
There is a thread going in the draft forum that lists all the players Dallas has looked at and if a certain mod could go over and stickie it that would be real cool of them. ;)
http://cowboyszone.com/forums/showthread.php?t=146848
ThreeSportStar80
02-21-2009, 05:32 PM
IF they are truly looking to draft a weapon like him, it would be a very smart move. You can never have too many offensive weapons.
SLATEmosphere
02-21-2009, 05:42 PM
Well we need to do something about punt returning regardless. If Crayton is still back there this season just calling fair catches I will vomit.
JRid21
02-21-2009, 05:46 PM
Wasn't he the number one player in the nation 4 years ago on signing day? I remember it was a big deal on ESPNEWS.
I like the guy and think he'll be there at 51, could be the Terry Glenn type that has been missing, but I doubt they take him. Games are won and lost in the trenches. Only way they get his is if Miami offers a 2nd for Austin.
BraveHeartFan
02-21-2009, 07:36 PM
I guess he'll be one of those several guys that people will look for from year to year now to try and run some variation of the Wildcat until they run it even further into the ground than Miami already has.
I like Williams but I don't believe he's one of the biggest needs for the Cowboys.
Bob Sacamano
02-21-2009, 07:37 PM
I guess he'll be one of those several guys that people will look for from year to year now to try and run some variation of the Wildcat until they run it even further into the ground than Miami already has.
I like Williams but I don't believe he's one of the biggest needs for the Cowboys.
not really, but him and Felix would make the offense pretty dynamic
BraveHeartFan
02-21-2009, 07:40 PM
not really, but him and Felix would make the offense pretty dynamic
*nods* I suppose it would.
dadymat
02-21-2009, 07:41 PM
Well we need to do something about punt returning regardless. If Crayton is still back there this season just calling fair catches I will vomit.
Felix?
Sam I Am
02-21-2009, 07:47 PM
Inconsistant player. 15 reps at 225 at the combine. He has talent though.
JonJon
02-21-2009, 08:20 PM
I would take him if we can get him in the third round. Our second round needs to be spent elsewhere IMO.
Beast_from_East
02-22-2009, 02:59 AM
not really, but him and Felix would make the offense pretty dynamic
What about the other WR that was going to make our offense pretty dynamic???
You know, the guy we gave up a 1,3, and 6th for that was going to make our offense unstoppable.
We need another WR to be dynamic now? Exactly how many premium picks do we have to use or trade away on WRs before our wonder boy OC gets a clue???
dbair1967
02-22-2009, 09:58 AM
Well we need to do something about punt returning regardless. If Crayton is still back there this season just calling fair catches I will vomit.
Crayton averaged more yds a punt return than Pac Trash did, apparently you forgot that
ajk23az
02-22-2009, 11:41 AM
Here was his 40 at the combine today.
Derrick Williams-WR-Player Feb. 22 - 12:35 pm et
Penn State WR Derrick Williams recorded a 4.58 unofficial forty time at the NFL Combine Sunday.
JonJon
02-22-2009, 11:53 AM
Ouch...4.67 unofficial 2nd run time.
We might have a shot at him after all in the 3rd or 4th.
LatinMind
02-22-2009, 11:53 AM
Ouch...4.67
We might have a shot at him afterall in the 3rd.
yeah he looks real slow on the start. he's gonna drop
dbair1967
02-22-2009, 11:57 AM
Ouch...4.67 unofficial 2nd run time.
We might have a shot at him after all in the 3rd or 4th.
I dont want him at all with those type of numbers...he's supposed to be a speed guy, big play guys isnt he?
Jerruh
02-22-2009, 11:59 AM
Combine numbers don't mean that much when it comes to playing the game IMO...The guy produced in college and I would love to use a 3rd or 4th on this guy.
unionjack8
02-22-2009, 12:02 PM
i dont even see us picking up a wr in the draft. especially one with no speed to speak of at all.
Alexander
02-22-2009, 12:02 PM
Combine numbers don't mean that much when it comes to playing the game IMO...The guy produced in college and I would love to use a 3rd or 4th on this guy.
You would love three of our first three or three of our first four draft choices this year dedicated to wide receiver?
Jerruh
02-22-2009, 12:21 PM
Sure why not, if he's the best value at the time we pick I would expect him to be the pick..Remember TO is no spring chicken, there is no guarantee that Austin is coming back, and Crayton is OK but Williams has the skill set to be a good wideout in the NFL.
slotshot
02-22-2009, 12:29 PM
didn't look great at the Gauntlet either
dbair1967
02-22-2009, 12:52 PM
I'd say he should start making plans for the 5th or 6th rd...awful combine
McCordsville Cowboy
02-22-2009, 01:02 PM
Crayton averaged more yds a punt return than Pac Trash did, apparently you forgot that
Crayton is a horrible returner. A fumble waiting to happen and he has no moves. Holds the ball like Deion with speed like a 7th rounder.
SDogo
02-22-2009, 01:12 PM
On the flip side, Deon Butler who I always thought was a bigger threat then Williams ran a 4.38
JonJon
02-22-2009, 01:25 PM
On the flip side, Deon Butler who I always thought was a bigger threat then Williams ran a 4.38
Is that the official time? I thought he clocked in at a 4.26, which is blazing... Butler certainly helped his cause so far. I would take a look at him. He would be very dangerous in the slot.
Oh_Canada
02-22-2009, 01:42 PM
I don't know...this guy looks plenty fast to me in pads, tough, has high character with good hands. I like him, but no question this combine hurt the kid.
jobberone
02-22-2009, 02:12 PM
He'll need to run some better times or he will fall. They will look at his relative game speed but....
We don't need another WR IMO. We have other holes to fill. Austin, Crayton, RWR and TO should be able to make this offense go esp with all the other fire power.
NT, ILB, S, and OL are needs. We also should pickup another CB esp if Henry moves to safety. If Canty, Bowen, and Tank are gone then we are going to have to address DE early. I don't see us being real active in FA but it's early and that could change.
cowboy4life
02-22-2009, 03:03 PM
Nothing to do with the topic, but I like how solid Brian Robeskie has looked in the combine workouts today. I just wish the Cowboys stop drafting projects at receiver and get someone like this kid. Unfortunately, he may not be there at #51.
Bob Sacamano
02-22-2009, 03:06 PM
I like Deon Butler better anyways
he was actually the better receiver, and it looks like he's the better athlete too
SLATEmosphere
02-22-2009, 03:11 PM
I like Butler in the 4th...
JonJon
02-22-2009, 05:22 PM
I like Butler in the 4th...
He would certainly add "Wow" and give us options at KR & PR. He can't be any worse than Skylar Greene...
McCordsville Cowboy
02-22-2009, 06:38 PM
He would certainly add "Wow" and give us options at KR & PR. He can't be any worse than Skylar Greene...
Skylar had no burst.... Butler does.
ajk23az
02-22-2009, 08:34 PM
I don't know...this guy looks plenty fast to me in pads, tough, has high character with good hands. I like him, but no question this combine hurt the kid.
They said he caught the flu during the combine and will rerun the 40 at his pro day.
Clove
02-22-2009, 09:25 PM
not really, but him and Felix would make the offense pretty dynamicExplosiveness on offense scares the heck out of D-coordinators, so I'm all for it.
Oh_Canada
02-23-2009, 10:32 AM
They said he caught the flu during the combine and will rerun the 40 at his pro day.
I can see that being the case...no way is the kid that slow.
BraveHeartFan
02-23-2009, 10:38 AM
Crayton is a horrible returner. A fumble waiting to happen and he has no moves. Holds the ball like Deion with speed like a 7th rounder.
Thats funny that you say that cause Adam Jones muffed, and or fumbled, on more punts in his one year here than Crayton has in 3 seasons.
He's not a good returner, by any means, he's just a safe option back there cause he'll make the catch and he's less likely than most to put the ball on the ground during a return.
As for the WR's from Penn State, I like Butler much better if they were just going to have to have one of those guys.
ThreeSportStar80
02-23-2009, 10:58 AM
Combine numbers don't mean that much when it comes to playing the game IMO...The guy produced in college and I would love to use a 3rd or 4th on this guy.
Exactly, people always amaze me falling in love with combine numbers. He's a playmaker on the field and that's all that matters. He'd be an upgrade on punt returns and definitely a dynamic playmaker on offense.
pass on DWill. i've watched the kid since his high school days and while he has all the talent in the world, he's never lived up to them IMO. kid is an underachiever. #1 overall player who was lost at PSU. besides the fact that we don't need another WR on this team, we don't need a WR that has been hyped but disappeared his whole career. don't see him as ever being more than a #3 WR IMO.
why don't we give our guys a chance to hit the field. the guys we've developed for a couple years now. i'd rather play austin hurd and stanback before drafting another supposed threat. we always draft guys who can KR/PR but don't use them in that capacity for whatever reason.
BigDInCharlotte
02-23-2009, 12:06 PM
pass on DWill. i've watched the kid since his high school days and while he has all the talent in the world, he's never lived up to them IMO. kid is an underachiever. #1 overall player who was lost at PSU. besides the fact that we don't need another WR on this team, we don't need a WR that has been hyped but disappeared his whole career. don't see him as ever being more than a #3 WR IMO.
why don't we give our guys a chance to hit the field. the guys we've developed for a couple years now. i'd rather play austin hurd and stanback before drafting another supposed threat. we always draft guys who can KR/PR but don't use them in that capacity for whatever reason.
Exactly. Kid is overrated, and the only reason he got as much hype as he did was because of his father. Came in as the #1 recruit in the country, and wasn't even the best receiver on his team. Butler was, and he was a walkon.
He's got bust written all over him.
People are just obsessed with the glamourous positions in the NFL. We aren't losing any starters on offense, but we are losing some on defense, yet people are still pushing for us to use our first pick on a WR?
Come on.
Alexander
02-23-2009, 01:05 PM
People are just obsessed with the glamourous positions in the NFL. We aren't losing any starters on offense, but we are losing some on defense, yet people are still pushing for us to use our first pick on a WR?
Come on.
There will be a need very soon for a WR. Perhaps as early as 2010.
But that's not a reason to react right now, much less with a player like this Williams fellow who looks terrible. I mean we just sacrificed the first day of the upcoming draft for a WR.
koolaid
02-23-2009, 06:39 PM
Williams can play football, I would love to see the cowboys draft a player as explosive as him.
For everyone sighting the combine numbers on this guy and calling him a bust, chill out, he decided to work out even though he has the flu!
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/128101-flu-bird-effecting-mccoys-williams-performance
that's called agent spin control. i've watched the guy from high school. he is an underachiever, and wasn't the best wr on his own PSU team. his explosiveness is overrated IMO.
bpfred
02-24-2009, 05:00 AM
I thought he looked great at the Senior Bowl practices. He looked fast and had great cuts. A corner could be running stride for stride with him into his cuts, and he would have 2-3 yards separation coming out of the cuts.
I was absolutely shocked at how slow he was running his 40s at the combine. And he looked bad running the gauntlet.
The question is: What is his real speed? Is there anything to the flu story?
If he's a 4.4 - 4.45 guy, then he's a first/second round talent. He would be reminiscent of a Marvin Harrison/Terry Glenn type: someone who can stretch the field and create separation with sharp cuts.
If he's a 4.6-4.7 guy, then he's a fourth/fifth round talent. More of an OJ McDuffie/Wes Welker type; a possession receiver that may be able to returns punts/kickoffs (and that's being questioned by some people). He could still be useful, and a good player, but there's no way he'll go in the second round.
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