MSNBC announcer says "oh god" before Jindals speech

[ajk23az]

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2009/02/msnbc_oh_god.html

And some say the mediots arent biased. :rolleyes:

[iceberg]

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2009/02/msnbc_oh_god.html

And some say the mediots arent biased. :rolleyes:

maybe he hated the tie. it is kinda candy cane.

some people will assume one statement means what they want it to mean, not what it either does or what else it could mean.

[BrAinPaiNt]

maybe he hated the tie. it is kinda candy cane.

some people will assume one statement means what they want it to mean, not what it either does or what else it could mean.

Maybe it was the tie, maybe it was that odd smile/expression on his face when he came out. Maybe it had nothing what so ever to do with Jindal but the guy was commenting on something he saw in the studio or something someone told him.

Maybe it was indeed an oh god at the idea of listening to Jindal.

However it is MSNBC and it is clear they are biased so I don't know what the shock of it is at this point. I mean it sounded like Keith Olberman was doing the intro before they went to the video and if you are watching Keith on MSNBC and expect it not to be biased than I suggest you get a scan and IQ test.

(waits for burm to run in and yell libby libby or question me about bias in the media for the 100th time while ignoring what i say)

[Danny White]

It was Olbermann... what do you expect?

I don't know anyone who truly believes that d-bag isn't biased.

If you choose to watch MSNBC, then you're probably doing so for the liberal red-meat that he serves out.

[BrAinPaiNt]

It was Olbermann... what do you expect?

I don't know anyone who truly believes that d-bag isn't biased.

If you choose to watch MSNBC, then you're probably doing so for the liberal red-meat that he serves out.

Ding Ding Ding

[tyke1doe]

Everyone in the media is biased. In fact, I dare say there's not anyone on the face of this earth that isn't biased. You can't hold an argument unless you're biased.

The issue isn't the absence of personal bias but whether one is professional in one's attempt to be fair despite bias.

[iceberg]

It was Olbermann... what do you expect?

I don't know anyone who truly believes that d-bag isn't biased.

If you choose to watch MSNBC, then you're probably doing so for the liberal red-meat that he serves out.

Ding Ding Ding

much like the anti-cowboys reporters who say something bad to drive people into a frenzy. they do it FOR reaction.

give it to them and you may as well let them shove a dollar up your hiney so you'll dance for them.

[vta]

maybe he hated the tie. it is kinda candy cane.

some people will assume one statement means what they want it to mean, not what it either does or what else it could mean.

Well, if everyone else in the public eye has to completely conduct a thorough research for everything that comes out of their own mouths and be completely sure it won't offend, lest they be subjected to endless derision and demands for apology, the jerks who lead that cause might want to follow their own lead.

[iceberg]

Well, if everyone else in the public eye has to completely conduct a thorough research for everything that comes out of their own mouths and be completely sure it won't offend, lest they be subjected to endless derision and demands for apology, the jerks who lead that cause might want to follow their own lead.

well i think in general we cater to the extremes instead of telling them to shut up.

[vta]

well i think in general we cater to the extremes instead of telling them to shut up.

The extreme is all we get and we take it as a given. Moderates do not cut it in the big world of face time.

What else is coming down the pike that we'll be willing to accept?

[DFWJC]

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2009/02/msnbc_oh_god.html

And some say the mediots arent biased. :rolleyes:

Ha. MSNBC does not even try to hide it most of the time. They make Fox's bias to the right look meek with their slobbering love for the left. :cool:

It's entertaining in a train wreck sort of way.

[DFWJC]

well i think in general we cater to the extremes instead of telling them to shut up.

Amen brother.

[WoodysGirl]

MSNBC's Chris Matthews explains 'Oh God' remark

David Bauder, Ap Television Writer – 2 hrs 43 mins ago

NEW YORK – MSNBC's Chris Matthews said he was surprised by the "peculiar stagecraft" of Louisiana Gov. Bobby Jindal's response to President Barack Obama's speech to Congress, leading him to quietly say "Oh God" as Jindal approached a microphone.

The remark inspired a brief Internet guessing game about who had said it and questions about whether someone at MSNBC was mocking the Republican governor.

Matthews' barely audible "Oh God" appeared to be a classic case of someone talking on TV without realizing their microphone was on, and potentially embarrassing to a network many Republicans already regard with suspicion because of left-leaning talk shows by Keith Olbermann and Rachel Maddow.

"I was taken aback by that peculiar stagecraft, the walking from somewhere in the back of this narrow hall, the winding staircase looming there, the odd antibellum look of the scene," Matthews said in a script for his "Hardball" show on Wednesday. "Was this some mimicking of a president walking along the state floor to the East Room?"

Matthews said he wasn't referring to Jindal himself, or anything he expected the governor to say.

A clip of the "Oh God" remark quickly made the Internet rounds. Before it was known that Matthews had said it, the Huffington Post asked readers to guess who it was and nearly 7,000 people responded: 32 percent had guessed Matthews, 35 percent said it was Olbermann, his co-anchor, 15 percent said it was an MSNBC camera operator and 18 percent thought it was a producer.

It's not the first time Matthews' mouth has gotten him noticed for the wrong reasons. He was ridiculed by some Republicans for saying he "felt this thrill going up my leg" during an Obama speech, but later defended the remark as an objective look at Obama's ability to inspire through his speeches.

After some protests by women's groups, Matthews said he was wrong last year to say that the reason Hillary Clinton was a senator and candidate for president "is that her husband messed around."

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090225/ap_en_tv/tv_msnbc_jindal

[burmafrd]

Wasn't Matthews talking about running for office as a Democrat?

[BrAinPaiNt]

Wasn't Matthews talking about running for office as a Democrat?

Tweety Bird?

[sbark]

Its not gonna be "style points" that is gonna turn around, too many people are too willing to ooohhh & aahh at what they have been told about "bama'

Jindahl & Palin have both "done it"...they have working models of govt perf.--they just need to articulate it w/o "oh god" as a preface to what they say.---In a way its like Romo vrs. Big Ben R----Romo can wow you......but Ben just gets it done

as the Politico stated: really it was just conservative words hideing a Liberal plan........in other words meaningless

from Politico: The substance reflected Obama’s bet that the country—alarmed by the economic crisis, repelled by the failures of the president who preceded him—is ready to move in a decisively more liberal direction.

The rhetoric, by contrast, reflected his apparent belief that most Americans remain instinctually conservative, leaving him and his agenda acutely vulnerable to backlash.

[ConcordCowboy]

It was Olbermann... what do you expect?

I don't know anyone who truly believes that d-bag isn't biased.

If you choose to watch MSNBC, then you're probably doing so for the liberal red-meat that he serves out.

Pssst.

It wasn't Keith.

:laugh2:

http://olbermannwatch.com/images/kobamavision.jpg

[burmafrd]

Doesn't matter. If libs try and tar FOX NEWS then MSNBC should get the same treatment. As should CBS and NBC. ABC is not quite as bad, and CNN seems to have gotten a little better at being more balanced.
Love how Brain is claiming that there is bias on both sides- I ask where does the right side bias come from other then FOX NEWS? The left is well supported by all the other alphabet networks. Is FOX NEWS so powerfull it equals ALL THE REST?

[BrAinPaiNt]

Doesn't matter. If libs try and tar FOX NEWS then MSNBC should get the same treatment. As should CBS and NBC. ABC is not quite as bad, and CNN seems to have gotten a little better at being more balanced.
Love how Brain is claiming that there is bias on both sides- I ask where does the right side bias come from other then FOX NEWS? The left is well supported by all the other alphabet networks. Is FOX NEWS so powerfull it equals ALL THE REST?

So you do admit that Fox news is bias. So there is your right side bias.

They are the MSNBC of the right.

I never claimed that it was equal across the board, that is yet another delusion in your mind that you always seem to refuse to admit.

I am beginning to think you are a bot for fox news.

Quick...type this before replying... FoXneWs666

:laugh2:

[burmafrd]

quick type this

BRAIN HAS NONE.

[ZeroClub]

Matthews gasped in anticipation of a trainwreck.

His instincts were accurate. You've gotta give him that.

[BrAinPaiNt]

quick type this

BRAIN HAS NONE.

Yet still smarter than you.:laugh2:

[Jarv]

Matthews gasped in anticipation of a trainwreck.

His instincts were accurate. You've gotta give him that.

To be fair...I say "oh god" before Mathews speaks also...

[BrAinPaiNt]

To be fair...I say "oh god" before Mathews speaks also...

Gotta love Tweety for the humor, mostly unintentional.

He can get so involved in some things that he is almost panting or drooling. That or he thinks he makes a funny joke and yells out HA or starts laughing while a guest just kind of scratches their head.

Where someone like Hannity and Olberman just grate on my nerves...Someone like Tweety just makes me laugh because he is so awkward in ways.

[Bach]

Matthews gasped in anticipation of a trainwreck.

His instincts were accurate. You've gotta give him that.

He also felt a tingle down his leg over another trainwreck.

[BrAinPaiNt]

He also felt a tingle down his leg over another trainwreck.

I think you are in the wrong forum...This is not a Jerry Jones thread.

[Rogah]

So you do admit that Fox news is bias. So there is your right side bias.

They are the MSNBC of the right.When I determine a station's bias, I look at their news division - I don't include political commentary shows. So anything we get from Bill O'Reilly or Keith Olbermann during their evening shows is irrelevant. However, IMHO, when they do commentary and analysis during a news program then that can be considered bias.

Having said that, I absolutely agree FoxNews is biased. But I think NBC/MSNBC is significantly more biased than Fox is. For example, how many times have they given us "Green Week" where they do nothing but advance the environmentalist agenda?

CBS lost any shred of credibility they may have once had when they knowlingly presented forged documents "proving" President Bush went AWOL.

I agree with Burma that ABC may be the best of a bad lot, but I lost a lot of respect for them with the way they handled the election this past year. 2 examples come to mind:

1) I compared Charlie Gibson's interview of Palin with George Stephanopolous' interview of Obama, conducted within a week of each other. Gibson was very aggressive and clearly threw in a few "got'cha" questions. Meanwhile, Stephanopolous was as obsequious and fawning over Obama as I have ever seen an interviewer be. I have never seen an interviewer rush in to correct the interviewee the way Stephanopolous did with his (paraphrasing) "Sir, you meant to say 'my Christian faith' right?"

2) I remember after one of the Presidential debates, they had a 3 person panel analyze who did better. Stephanopolous was there, as was DeeDee Myers. IIRC, the 3rd person was a journalist with no political experience. So I have to say that when you have 3 people reviewing a debate, and 2 of those 3 were actual members of the Clinton Administration, I consider that more than just a little biased.

[BrAinPaiNt]

When I determine a station's bias, I look at their news division - I don't include political commentary shows. So anything we get from Bill O'Reilly or Keith Olbermann during their evening shows is irrelevant. However, IMHO, when they do commentary and analysis during a news program then that can be considered bias.

Having said that, I absolutely agree FoxNews is biased. But I think NBC/MSNBC is significantly more biased than Fox is. For example, how many times have they given us "Green Week" where they do nothing but advance the environmentalist agenda?

CBS lost any shred of credibility they may have once had when they knowlingly presented forged documents "proving" President Bush went AWOL.

I agree with Burma that ABC may be the best of a bad lot, but I lost a lot of respect for them with the way they handled the election this past year. 2 examples come to mind:

1) I compared Charlie Gibson's interview of Palin with George Stephanopolous' interview of Obama, conducted within a week of each other. Gibson was very aggressive and clearly threw in a few "got'cha" questions. Meanwhile, Stephanopolous was as obsequious and fawning over Obama as I have ever seen an interviewer be. I have never seen an interviewer rush in to correct the interviewee the way Stephanopolous did with his (paraphrasing) "Sir, you meant to say 'my Christian faith' right?"

2) I remember after one of the Presidential debates, they had a 3 person panel analyze who did better. Stephanopolous was there, as was DeeDee Myers. IIRC, the 3rd person was a journalist with no political experience. So I have to say that when you have 3 people reviewing a debate, and 2 of those 3 were actual members of the Clinton Administration, I consider that more than just a little biased.

During the election and specifically election night I would switch between the Cable News channels. I would go from one extreme in MSNBC to another in Fox. Now CNN is left leaning but I found they are nowhere near as bad in bias as MSNBC or FOX and nowhere near as bad as they used to be.

People always say that you should not go by the opinion/commentator shows like Hannity or Olberman. But IMO if you look at a news channels top rated programs you can get a good idea of what way that station leans. Tweety/Olberman/maddow you have a far left lean. O'Reilly/Beck/Hannity you have a far right lean.

Of course I will hear people say, well fox has Greta and Geraldo to show they are fair and not biased (oddly enough just after they say you can't use those types as a measuring stick) but MSNBC also has Morning Joe and joe is not a dem and his regular on the show is Pat Buchanan who is not a dem.

So again...I believe MSNBC is the far left leaning and Fox is the far Right leaning and I honestly don't see how anyone can argue that. However I actually see at least one in here that will fight tooth and nail to claim fox is not biased at all.

Then of course you got libby bot burm who always blabs on about stuff he can pretty much never prove even when direct proof of the contrary has been shown to him time and time again.:D

[ZeroClub]

To be fair...I say "oh god" before Mathews speaks also...

Good one. :)

I like Mathews, in moderation. But then, I like MSNBC, unlike most people here.

I think Chris Mathews and Vice-President Joe Biden share the propensity to (occasionally) blurt something out that just doesn't work out very well socially. Both of them speak with some emotion, too. They are different people with different strengths and weaknesses, but they do remind me of each other... a little bit, anyway.

[Bach]

I think you are in the wrong forum...This is not a Jerry Jones thread.

Then i guess BigDFan won't be showing up. Shucks.

[BrAinPaiNt]

Then i guess BigDFan won't be showing up. Shucks.

Nor 5countem5...or does he just argue in TO threads...I get them confused sometimes.

[burmafrd]

As usual Brain has none when it comes to being blind about bias in the media.
Fox leans right for sure but nowhere NEAR as much as MSNBC leans left.
AND Brain does not talk about NBC or CBS or CNN = to him FOX NEWS has just as much impact AS ALL THE REST COMBINED.
So frankly brain is a joke.

[WoodysGirl]

As usual burmafrd has none when it comes to being blind about brain's position on bias in the media.

So frankly burmafrd is a joke.

;) :p:

[BrAinPaiNt]

As usual Brain has none when it comes to being blind about bias in the media.
Fox leans right for sure but nowhere NEAR as much as MSNBC leans left.
AND Brain does not talk about NBC or CBS or CNN = to him FOX NEWS has just as much impact AS ALL THE REST COMBINED.
So frankly brain is a joke.

Again...AGAIN.

Show me where I have said that FOX news is bias enough to take over for ABC, CBS and NBC combined? Please show me that. Show it.

Can you show where I have said that?

Please?

If you can not than I am going to say you are flat out full of BS, which you are anyways, but this would just prove it.

Show it.

So sir...YOU are the joke because you apparently can not read or comprehend and you can not back up your claims.

But again I give you the chance.

Show me where I have said that NBC, ABC and CNN combined are not as bad as FOX. Or that I have ever claimed that the rest of them are not biased to the left.

Show me.

Quit talking the talk and walk the walk.

Because if you can not, i guess that means you are either delusional or just telling a lie.

Your Choice.

[Jarv]

Gotta love Tweety for the humor, mostly unintentional.

He can get so involved in some things that he is almost panting or drooling. That or he thinks he makes a funny joke and yells out HA or starts laughing while a guest just kind of scratches their head.

Where someone like Hannity and Olberman just grate on my nerves...Someone like Tweety just makes me laugh because he is so awkward in ways.

Why do you call him Tweety ? I think its funny, just wondering where it came from ?

[DIAF]

To be fair, I groaned as well when I saw Jindal walking from the hallway to the podium. Talk about cheesy. I'll give matthews a pass on that one. It reminded me of Stewie's one-man show from the ep of Family Guy where he's walking across the stage and then pauses and goes, "Oh! I didn't see you there.." to the audience. It was awful. The theatrics AND the speech. Jindal needs a public speaking coach if he wants to be considered in 2012, dude was just dreadful with prepared remarks.

[BrAinPaiNt]

Why do you call him Tweety ? I think its funny, just wondering where it came from ?

Reminds me of Tweety bird...I think it is the shape of his head or something.

[ConcordCowboy]

http://photos-f.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-ak-sf2p/v649/112/125/698406745/n698406745_1932221_4053427.jpg

[the fake norm hitzges]

The Citizen and the Media

David L Lamon

The intended purpose of this letter is for you the citizen to see where you and I stand as citizens getting accurate information from the MSM or main stream media CBS, NBC, ABC, CNBC, and throw in both CNN and Fox. That’s right even Fox restricts vital information from coming forth to “we the people”. For instance, why doesn’t Fox considered by most to be the voice for conservative people report or demand Obama prove he is a natural born citizen and why doesn’t Fox report about the millions of dollars Obama is spending on the various law firms to keep this information away from the American people? If he doesn’t have anything to hide then why not settle this issue once and for all and provide the orginal birth certificate proving he was born in Hawaii? Until he does there can only be one reason, he ain’t! Why doesn’t Fox scrutinize Obama’s cabinet appointments and tell it like it is about these communist. And no that is not an extreme expression, only a completely accurate statement.

Read the quotes from media people below and you will see if you want the facts you must go to the internet while you still can because the democrats are crafting language for a bill even as I write to squelch information on the internet. This is by the way in addition to the so-called “Fairness Doctrine”. The fix is in folks, the dissent we do hear is strictly to deceive us or tickle our ears into believing we have a voice until total control becomes public knowledge and nothing we do as citizens can change it. I understand this is hard to accept considering how we have enjoyed living a good life all our lives but until enough of us accept the facts as they are and in a hurry its only going to get worse. The quickest way to stop the rampage is for all of us to write our congressmen and senators and demand he show proof of his citizenship. It will take at least I estimate 30 million Americans to accomplish this.

The courts are throwing out challenge after challenge to his citizenship saying “we the people” don’t have the standing to force this information or for the court to bother itself with this. If the citizen of the U.S. doesn’t then who does. Even some military personnel are filing suits to obtain this information and they are being denied on the same grounds. These are people that are being shot at on a daily basis. You would think they have a right to know if their commander-in-chief in legit wouldn’t you?

Media

Richard Salant—Former president of CBS News__Our job is to give people not what they want, but what we decide they ought to have.

John Swinton—Former Chief of Staff New York Press Club__There is no such thing, at this date of the world’s history in America, as an independent press. You know it and I know it. You wouldn’t dare write your honest opinions, and if you did, you know beforehand, that it would never appear in print. The business of journalists is to destroy the truth; to lie outright; to pervert; to vilify, to fawn at the feet of mammon, and to sell his country and his race for his daily bread. You know it and I know it and what folly this toasting of an independent press. We are the tools and vassals of rich men behind the scenes. We are the jumping jacks; they pull the strings and we dance. Our talents, our possibilities, and our lives are all the property of other men. We are intellectual prostitutes. Winston Churchill said, “The worst crime is not to tell the truth to the public. The crime endures, flourishes, and overwhelms.

Bernard Goldberg—Commentator on CBS 48 Hours television program__We in the press like to say we’re honest brokers of information, and it’s just not true. The press does have an agenda.

Paul Watson—Co-founder of Greenpeace__It doesn’t matter what is true; it only matters what people believe is true….You are what the media define you to be.

Benjamin Crowninshield Bradlee—Former Executive Editor Washington Post__To hell with the news. I’m no longer interested in news. I’m interested in causes. We don’t print the truth. We don’t pretend to print the truth.

Additional Useful Information

Dr. Gene Schroder in his book Constitution Fact or Fiction: tells us that through the insidious, yet steady encroachment of ‘emergency powers,’ the government has now achieved the ability to rule the people by statute or decree, without the vote or consent of the ruled. Since 1933 America has continued under the ‘unconstitutional dictatorship’ of war and emergency powers. Don McAlvany reports: Executive order 12919, released by President Clinton on June 6, 1994, spells out some of the powers that the president assumes under a national emergency. In it he assumes the power to control all transportation, all forms of energy, all farm equipment, all fertilizer, all food resources, all health resources, all metals and minerals, and all water resources. The only so-called emergency power of the Constitution reads as follows: the privilege of the Writ of Habeas Corpus is the fundamental instrument for safeguarding individual freedom against arbitrary and lawless state action. The Writ of Habeas Corpus shall not suspended, unless when in Cases of Rebellion or Invasion the public safety may require it. (Article 1, Section 9) Since the clause in question resides in Article 1, it was obviously intended that only the legislature should make such a declaration. Any President who would assume ‘commander in chief’ powers, ‘war powers,’ declare ‘emergencies’ to assume powers not delegated by the Constitution should be laughed at as a buffoon.

[iceberg]

Doesn't matter. If libs try and tar FOX NEWS then MSNBC should get the same treatment. As should CBS and NBC. ABC is not quite as bad, and CNN seems to have gotten a little better at being more balanced.
Love how Brain is claiming that there is bias on both sides- I ask where does the right side bias come from other then FOX NEWS? The left is well supported by all the other alphabet networks. Is FOX NEWS so powerfull it equals ALL THE REST?

i love how my conservative brethren speak up.

say what's on their mind in a manner that's not simply the same a different day, but really an effort to put stupidity down and move on.

evolve.

cause you see, that's where you make the biggest strides in life. evolving. getting past your own fears to see new ones later on down the road. i love the vocal on "my side" when they can express themselves in a manner that truly takes that next step to understanding.

something more.

where we need to go.

so far you're a f'in waste of time dude.