Do we still draft a safety with our 2nd rounder?

[SLATEmosphere]

With the addition of Sensabaugh and now Scandrick playing some "star"..is it safe to say that we won't be picking Delmas or Chung now??

[newlander]

Great post and question. I think it allows us to take literally the best player available. Sure, we still need a ILB,safety, WR, NT, Oline, etc....but we don't have to reach now. I would still vote for safety if those two guys were there. Because then it gives us unbelievable flexibility with scandrick in the slot, etc....But that really depends on which ILB is there at #51 too. I still think we have a real need there too.

[unionjack8]

i think we still go safety if one of chung, moore or dlemas is there. I think Sensabaugh is a good backup guy, good ST guy but not someone i want to rely on to start.

Plus he's only signed for one yearand we need to look to the future. Killa isnt it, Watkins isnt, Brown isnt, Battle isnt. Hamlin is ok at one spot, Scandrick has the special "star" spot, sliding to nickle CB but IMO we still need a starting SS. Give me Moore, Delmas or Chung.

[SLATEmosphere]

Will Sensabaugh play SS during dime and nickel packages with Orlando in the slot?

[cowboyjoe]

we can do now what you should do in the draft, draft best player available

best scenario for the cowboys now is to resign burnett some way, then your not reaching at all,

and resign keith davis too, if have to take one, go with keith davis, we need him on special teams and he can help a liittle at safety

[28 Joker]

In my opinion, the Cowboys will not draft Chung. He's overrated (imo) and dropping. Bunting has dropped Chung to # 77. That is in the third round. Delmas has some concussion issues. However, he plays FS and some team that didn't sign a safety might still draft him in round 2. Bunting has dropped Delmas to #69.

Williams Moore is the wildcard. He ran a 4.49 at his pro day. He's starting to get healthy. I think Dallas would like him over Chung and Delmas. However, I don't know where Dallas would see his value. Bunting llikes Moore and has dropped him to # 67.

The strong safeties should fall in this draft. However, a team like the Patriots, who have three 2nd round picks, may use one on Moore before he falls out of round 2. The Saints and Eagles have spent a lot of time with Moore, too.

Sherrod Martin is rising fast, but many teams view him as a CB in a very weak CB class.

[Woods]

With the addition of Sensabaugh and now Scandrick playing some "star"..is it safe to say that we won't be picking Delmas or Chung now??

One guy I think is very intriguing is Byrd the CB from Oregon.

IF Scandrick really will be playing the STAR full-time, we need another CB along with Newman and Jenkins and Ball.

I think at 51 he is fair value.

And I think it's easier picking up a quality CB in the 2nd and an additional Safety in the 4th than vice-versa.

[SLATEmosphere]

Well I like it because we don't have to reach for anyone. If Delmas or Smith are there, great, if not, then we go BPA like Duke Robinson or Nicks/Robiskie. Looks like Gerald is pushing back Scandrick from that "star" postition. Might have him stay in the nickel where he's best IMO

[Rampage]

nope. we're not taking a safety in the 2nd now.

[DaBoys4Life]

nope. we're not taking a safety in the 2nd now.

Agreed.

[SLATEmosphere]

Agreed.

Need to change your mock there DaBoys..:) Let me guess..Jarron Gilbert now? I hope it isn't.

[DaBoys4Life]

Need to change your mock there DaBoys..:) Let me guess..Jarron Gilbert now? I hope it isn't.

I was thinking Micheal Johnson and I'm bout to update now. I think I may need to go WR though.

[SLATEmosphere]

I was thinking Micheal Johnson and I'm bout to update now. I think I may need to go WR though.

I'm really leaning towards a WR now too..Nicks or Robiskie would look awfully tempting..

[28 Joker]

I always forget Chip Vaugn. He's rated right behind Moore. Bunting has him at number 81. He's faster than Moore. He ran a 4.42, I think.

[BAT]

I always forget Chip Vaugn. He's rated right behind Moore. Bunting has him at number 81. He's faster than Moore. He ran a 4.42, I think.

But Vaughn could be worse than Roy in coverage. Very stiff. And Moore is also poor in coverage (man to man), lacks instincts. Only good when he is playing deep center field.


Pat Chung is the only SS I want that early. Unless Sean Smith falls.

[SLATEmosphere]

I always forget Chip Vaugn. He's rated right behind Moore. Bunting has him at number 81. He's faster than Moore. He ran a 4.42, I think.

Get off the Vaughn and Moore train please. They have good straightline speed, but terrible game and lateral speed.

[5mics]

With the addition of Sensabaugh and now Scandrick playing some "star"..is it safe to say that we won't be picking Delmas or Chung now??

I'm thinking not necessarily anymore; which is fine w/ me cuz I prefer a NT w/ our 2nd rounder.....

[silverbear]

With the addition of Sensabaugh and now Scandrick playing some "star"..is it safe to say that we won't be picking Delmas or Chung now??

I wouldn't... I'd draft a safety, but not that early...

Unless William Moore falls that far, I think he might be a good gamble on greatness... but right now, I'd like the Boys to go OL with the 2nd round pick... if either Duke Robinson or Alex Mack fell that far, they'd be perfect for the Boys...

From what I'm reading, my pet cat is falling down the charts, because he's not yet ready to work out after suffering a knee injury... that would be Jonathan Casillas, the 6-1, 225 pound OLB from Wisconsin who runs a sub-4.5 40 when healthy... I think that Casillas' size and speed are reminiscent of a young Darren Woodson (who also made the switch from OLB to S in the pros), and he might even be available in the 5th round, though I'd spend the Boys second 4th rounder on him...

[silverbear]

I'm really leaning towards a WR now too..Nicks or Robiskie would look awfully tempting..

For WR, I'm targeting Jarett Dillard, Quan Cosby or Johnny Knox in the middle rounds... Jarett was a touchdown machine in college, setting an NCAA record for WRs with 60 TDs... Cosby has good speed, is fearless, a willing blocker, and a capable kick returner... Knox is blazing fast, and the Boys can use some more speed at WR...

The common thread with all of them is that they're smaller WRs, with the quickness to play in the slot... the Boys have a ton of big wideouts, it might be advantageous to add a Smurf who can play some...

[dallasfaniac]

Jarett was a touchdown machine in college, setting an NCAA record for WRs with 60 TDs.

I'm still trying to decide what I think of this kid. On a scale of David Ball to Jerry Rice, where would I rank him kind of thing.

[silverbear]

I'm still trying to decide what I think of this kid. On a scale of David Ball to Jerry Rice, where would I rank him kind of thing.

I see him as a solid slot receiver in the NFL, and he'd probably be best served by going to a team that runs the West Coast offense...

[dallasfaniac]

I see him as a solid slot receiver in the NFL, and he'd probably be best served by going to a team that runs the West Coast offense...

I like Dillard, I'm just overly cautious I guess. David White Rice Ball broke Jerry Rice's TD record in 2006 and had a slow time in the 40, going undrafted when many sites had him projected him around a 5th rounder. Dillard breaks David Ball's record by 2, also had a slow 40 time at the combine and projects to round 3-4.

I like Dillard who should make a roster rather than dropping out in the CFL as well as the other guys on your list, but I would add Mike Thomas, who is my personal favorite. He may climb into the 2nd as he puts up the good numbers, performed well in both East-West and SeniorBowl and had terrific performance at the combine. The only knock is his 5'-8", which might mean not being seen with 6'-7" OL in the way in the NFL.

[silverbear]

I like Dillard, I'm just overly cautious I guess. David White Rice Ball broke Jerry Rice's TD record in 2006 and had a slow time in the 40, going undrafted when many sites had him projected him around a 5th rounder. Dillard breaks David Ball's record by 2, also had a slow 40 time at the combine and projects to round 3-4.

Uhhh, a 4.52 40 isn't especially fast, but it's not slow either... that's what Dillard ran at the Combine, and I'm betting he gets it down into the 4.48-4.49 range at his Pro Day workout...

Ball ran a 4.65... big difference...

I like Dillard who should make a roster rather than dropping out in the CFL as well as the other guys on your list, but I would add Mike Thomas, who is my personal favorite. He may climb into the 2nd as he puts up the good numbers, performed well in both East-West and SeniorBowl and had terrific performance at the combine. The only knock is his 5'-8", which might mean not being seen with 6'-7" OL in the way in the NFL.

That's the thing, I think Thomas goes before I'd look at a WR... Hos sold me on him, but I have other plans for the 2nd and 3rd round picks...

[Yeagermeister]

Yes, Scandrick isn't moving to safety Ball is. That should last all of one day.

[jterrell]

Sensabaugh was signed to a one year deal to buy time for a rookie.

We will still draft a safety but it may not be in round 2. It will be the earliest spot where we get good value.

Its not like we signed Sensabaugh to a 5 year deal.

[jterrell]

Uhhh, a 4.52 40 isn't especially fast, but it's not slow either... that's what Dillard ran at the Combine, and I'm betting he gets it down into the 4.48-4.49 range at his Pro Day workout...

Ball ran a 4.65... big difference...



That's the thing, I think Thomas goes before I'd look at a WR... Hos sold me on him, but I have other plans for the 2nd and 3rd round picks...

I can assure you Mike Thomas does not get drafted before round 4.

Thomas is a Skyler Green type player without the injury concerns. He doesn't look very natural at all at WR. Dillard is a vastly better WR and prospect.

[DFWJC]

I've seen Chung going anywhere between early 2nd all the way us in the 3rd. I say we stick to our board at this point and take the BPA approach according to our board--which takes into account our needs.

[DFWJC]

For WR, I'm targeting Jarett Dillard, Quan Cosby or Johnny Knox in the middle rounds... Jarett was a touchdown machine in college, setting an NCAA record for WRs with 60 TDs... Cosby has good speed, is fearless, a willing blocker, and a capable kick returner... Knox is blazing fast, and the Boys can use some more speed at WR...

The common thread with all of them is that they're smaller WRs, with the quickness to play in the slot... the Boys have a ton of big wideouts, it might be advantageous to add a Smurf who can play some...

I agree with this post on all accounts. If we can get any of those three without reaching, I would be happy. Middle rounds should work if that is where they are on our draft boards. Jarett is a real playmaker with great hands and hops and so-so speed. Cosby reminds me a little of Hines Ward. Knox is jsut a flat our burner.

[jday]

With the addition of Sensabaugh and now Scandrick playing some "star"..is it safe to say that we won't be picking Delmas or Chung now??
I'm not sure how everyone is ignoring our drastic need at CB at this point. With the release of Pacman, the trade of Anthony Henry, and the possible transition of Scandrick, that leaves us with only 2 starter quality CB's; Ball should not have even made the 53 roster over Oglesby, but that's for a different thread. Nevertheless, with all the teams moving to the 3-4, I still say the Cowboys address Safety, but a 3-4 ready NT or hybrid in the Ratliff mold, should come first, then CB, then we can probably address Safety and ILB both in the 4th round.

[Sitting Bull]

I'm not sure how everyone is ignoring our drastic need at CB at this point. With the release of Pacman, the trade of Anthony Henry, and the possible transition of Scandrick, that leaves us with only 2 starter quality CB's; Ball should not have even made the 53 roster over Oglesby, but that's for a different thread. Nevertheless, with all the teams moving to the 3-4, I still say the Cowboys address Safety, but a 3-4 ready NT or hybrid in the Ratliff mold, should come first, then CB, then we can probably address Safety and ILB both in the 4th round.

I agree, CB is a draft need on par with S, OL and LB. But it still depends on what we do with Killa and FA. We're almost in position to really take BPA. Between Chung, Byrd and Unger, I'm feeling Oregon could figure in to our first pick.

[Woods]

I agree, CB is a draft need on par with S, OL and LB. But it still depends on what we do with Killa and FA. We're almost in position to really take BPA. Between Chung, Byrd and Unger, I'm feeling Oregon could figure in to our first pick.

Between the three names you just mentioned, I'd lean towards Byrd. (I have to re-do my mock draft.)

I think it's more difficult to pick up a quality CB later in this Draft than a quality Safety.

Plus, Byrd is an excellent player who produced at Oregon.