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BAT
03-11-2009, 08:37 PM
All the talk of death and destruction has encouraged me to generate another! :D


Death & Destruction Mock

2nd Round:
Pat Chung S Oregon, 5'11 210 4.49

3rd Round:
James Casey FB Rice, 6'3 246 4.74

4th Round:
Paul Veikune OLB Hawaii, 6'3 257 4.79
Mitch King DL Iowa, 6'2 280 4.84

5th Round:
Zack Follett OLB Cal Berkeley, 6'2 236 4.68
Jason Williams ILB W Illinois 6'1 241 4.46

6th Round:
A.Q. Shipley C Penn State, 6'1 306 5.12
Ray Feinga OG Oregon, 6'5 337 5.30
Nathan Brown QB Central Ark, 6'1 220 4.93

7th Round:
Roy Miller NT Texas, 6'1 310 4.98
Lardarius Webb KR/DB 5'11 180 4.30


Violent collisons, leadership/character & playmaking galore!

SDogo
03-11-2009, 09:04 PM
All the talk of death and destruction has encouraged me to generate another! :D


Death & Destruction Mock

2nd Round:
Pat Chung S Oregon, 5'11 210 4.49

3rd Round:
James Casey FB Rice, 6'3 246 4.74

4th Round:
Paul Veikune OLB Hawaii, 6'3 257 4.79
Mitch King DL Iowa, 6'2 280 4.84

5th Round:
Zack Follett OLB Cal Berkeley, 6'2 236 4.68
Jason Williams ILB W Illinois 6'1 241 4.46

6th Round:
A.Q. Shipley C Penn State, 6'1 306 5.12
Ray Feinga OG Oregon, 6'5 337 5.30
Nathan Brown QB Central Ark, 6'1 220 4.93

7th Round:
Roy Miller NT Texas, 6'1 310 4.98
Lardarius Webb KR/DB 5'11 180 4.30


Violent collisons, leadership/character & playmaking galore!

ohhh man

well, I like the 5th and 6th rounds.

Put Conner back in at round 2, get rid of that King and Casey pick and your doing alright.

DaBoys4Life
03-11-2009, 09:07 PM
James Casey is a TE however, I wouldn't mind us drafting him at all he does everything on the offensive end. He's just witten + he can run. Nice mock one of the better ones IMO.

BAT
03-11-2009, 09:16 PM
James Casey is a TE however, I wouldn't mind us drafting him at all he does everything on the offensive end. He's just witten + he can run. Nice mock one of the better ones IMO.

Thanks! I know that Casey is projected to TE in the pros, but he really does not have a defined position. At 6'3 and just under 250, he is more suited to the H-Back or FB role. He would be a dangerous threat out of the backfield & he is dedicated enough & tough enough to lead block.


I was really torn between taking Chung in the 2nd, or Alex Mack. I actually like Mack better, but I don't see many options in the 6th for a S that could contribute immediately. Even Sammie Lee Hill may not be available that far into the draft (whom I also like).

SDogo
03-11-2009, 09:17 PM
James Casey is a TE however, I wouldn't mind us drafting him at all he does everything on the offensive end. He's just witten + he can run. Nice mock one of the better ones IMO.

Casey would never see the field, whats the point? Not saying I don't like him, but what a waste of a pick.

TE-He's not going to see action over Witten and Bennett
FB-Ok, he might get a handful of plays a game but how often does Dallas utilize the FB?
RB-No room

BAT
03-11-2009, 09:20 PM
ohhh man

well, I like the 5th and 6th rounds.

Put Conner back in at round 2, get rid of that King and Casey pick and your doing alright.


Love Barwin too, but gotta be realistic, its unlikely he slips that far. I love King & Casey, super productive & their intangibles are even greater. Only size and/or inexperience "limit" these overachievers.


I like the overachievers, especially the talented ones. Sprinkle a lot of nasty in there, and you get pet cats.

DaBoys4Life
03-11-2009, 09:20 PM
Casey would never see the field, whats the point? Not saying I don't like him, but what a waste of a pick.

TE-He's not going to see action over Witten and Bennett
FB-Ok, he might get a handful of plays a game but how often does Dallas utilize the FB?
RB-No room

Kick Casey for Deon it's an instant upgrade in blocking running and another receiver threat. He will line up anywhere on the offense. I think we will be using more 3 TE sets anyway Curtis is trash and so is Anderson. He is two positions in one definitely worth Oh my god if we draft this guy you will see. Just imagine two Jason wittens. One playing FB and the other playing TE. He can also throw the ball...

BAT
03-11-2009, 09:23 PM
Casey would never see the field, whats the point? Not saying I don't like him, but what a waste of a pick.

TE-He's not going to see action over Witten and Bennett
FB-Ok, he might get a handful of plays a game but how often does Dallas utilize the FB?
RB-No room


Actually, Dallas utilizes the H-Back a ton. FB might get used more if the position was more efficient, especially if Dallas is going to focus more on the running game next season.


Getting rid of Deon Anderson for a playmaker is reason enough for me.

Bob Sacamano
03-11-2009, 09:38 PM
why do you have Casey listed as a FB? he's more of a WR than he will ever be a FB

Bigtommyb
03-11-2009, 09:45 PM
My Revised MockDraft- with this weeks developments:
Rnds
2 - Ron Brace - BOST.COLL - DT -6'3 1/2 333 , IF Brace is gone Sean Smith -UT - CB/S - 6'3 210
3 - Brian Robiske - OU - WR - 6'2 210
4 - Jason Watkins - Fla - OT - 6'5 313
4 - Morty Ivy - WV - 6'2 240 - ILB
5 - Demetrius Byrd - LSU - 6'0 200 WR 4.4 SPEED
5 - Curtis Taylor - LSU - S - 6'2 210
6 - If Brace is gone Antonio Dixon - MIAMI -DT - 6'3 326 IF WE GET BRACE THEN:
Ray Feing - BYU - 6'4 337 -G -
7 - Zach Follet - CAL - 6'1 231- OLB - MOVE TO ILB AND ST PLAYER
7 - Jorrosko Lane - Texas A&M - 6'0 295 - FB
This gives us everything we need i changed the thinking of Qb after we get a viable BU.
Sean Smith is a CB/S HYBRID WHO IS A JUNIOR AND BY NEXTY YEAR SO WATCH OUT!
I WANT Brace but im not sure he 's there in the third neither will Smith,it's one or the other.
The lb's gives us depth we need and Watkins could be Flo's replacement ROBOISKE WAS SOLID AT THE COMBINE AND WOULD BE A STEAL THIRD RD.
I say let's roll with Olshansky, Hatcher and Bowen and we have a athletic 295lb in Marcus Dixon on the PS.
Taylor gives us size at the S spot. I would possibly pick Ray Feing in he fifth because Taylor would probBLY BE THERE IN THE 6TH. I also think with these extra picks move up higher in the second to get Brace or Sean Smith because they are Dallas primary needs....S and big willie mamoth(as NATE NEWTON SAYS)DT in the middle. Then you could possibly have the luxury of moving RATLIFF AROUND?

SDogo
03-11-2009, 09:50 PM
There are two players I want nothing to do with and you managed to find both of them.

Also, NO WAY Follet makes it to the 7th round

BAT
03-11-2009, 09:59 PM
why do you have Casey listed as a FB? he's more of a WR than he will ever be a FB

Like I said earlier ...

Thanks! I know that Casey is projected to TE in the pros, but he really does not have a defined position. At 6'3 and just under 250, he is more suited to the H-Back or FB role. He would be a dangerous threat out of the backfield & he is dedicated enough & tough enough to lead block.


Casey has spectacular hands & very nice body control, especially for his size, but his 4.74 makes him a tad slow for WR. His body type & physicality make him a natch for H-Back/FB.

Bigtommyb
03-11-2009, 10:03 PM
There are two players I want nothing to do with and you managed to find both of them.

Also, NO WAY Follet makes it to the 7th round

I agree with Follett, but he can be picked higher? My fourth to seven will be determined by who gets picked where? Who are the guys?

BAT
03-11-2009, 10:08 PM
I would love to take Follett in the 7th, but I agree with Bob, not going to happen. The kid literally explodes into offensive players, with cataclysmic results.


One of my favorite players in the draft for that reason.



Also not a big fan of Brace. Don't think he replaces Rat at NT. And no need to slide Rat to DE with both Spears & Olshansky there.

SLATEmosphere
03-11-2009, 10:18 PM
Gunna be honest...I don't like it all. Picking Chung is going to be a huge mistake. I can already see some of you complaining about how poorly he is in coverage. Just isn't worth it. NEXT!.

Bigtommyb
03-11-2009, 10:30 PM
I would love to take Follett in the 7th, but I agree with Bob, not going to happen. The kid literally explodes into offensive players, with cataclysmic results.


One of my favorite players in the draft for that reason.



Also not a big fan of Brace. Don't think he replaces Rat at NT. And no need to slide Rat to DE with both Spears & Olshansky there.


I agreed about Follett, but your 4 to 7 can change completely depending on previous picks. I don't want him completly replacing? I am saying this gives us flexibility. So what is it you don't like about Brace. Olshansky,of what i have heard is better run stopper so my thinking is in pass situations mix it up? I am sorry guys we need a big body in the middle, I love Rat, but eventually he will brake down, because he is naturally to small,it's inevitable.

BAT
03-11-2009, 10:31 PM
Gunna be honest...I don't like it all. Picking Chung is going to be a huge mistake. I can already see some of you complaining about how poorly he is in coverage. Just isn't worth it. NEXT!.


LOL. Of course you would, not that your avatar has any bearing on your preference or anything. Actually, I am a little hesitant about Chung myself, but he is a very safe choice. The safer choice would be Alex Mack, who I like a little better_who not only has great leadership, technique, work ethic and other top notch intangibles but he's also versatile enough to play at any of the interior line positions.

DaBoys4Life
03-11-2009, 10:35 PM
Also not a big fan of Brace.

So it seems me and bob aren't the only ones...

SLATEmosphere
03-11-2009, 11:04 PM
So it seems me and bob aren't the only ones...

So that's 3 now? Congrats,He also didn't call him fat and overrated like you fools. He just isn't high on him. Big difference.

Bigtommyb
03-11-2009, 11:29 PM
Kick Casey for Deon it's an instant upgrade in blocking running and another receiver threat. He will line up anywhere on the offense. I think we will be using more 3 TE sets anyway Curtis is trash and so is Anderson. He is two positions in one definitely worth Oh my god if we draft this guy you will see. Just imagine two Jason wittens. One playing FB and the other playing TE. He can also throw the ball...

Why would you pick a OT with the second round pick? I like the DE's but three of them? We have pressing needs at saftey and corner,let alone on the dl. I am with getting depth at Ol ,but not before i am getting a Dl or S. Ol in the third or fourth.

BAT
03-12-2009, 03:30 AM
Why would you pick a OT with the second round pick? I like the DE's but three of them? We have pressing needs at saftey and corner,let alone on the dl. I am with getting depth at Ol ,but not before i am getting a Dl or S. Ol in the third or fourth.


Not following you here. Not sure what you are referring to, 4life was referrencing James Casey, who is not an OT.

DaBoys4Life
03-12-2009, 08:36 AM
Not following you here. Not sure what you are referring to, 4life was referrencing James Casey, who is not an OT.

I'm having trouble following also maybe he's referring to the mock in my sig IDK.

SDogo
03-12-2009, 08:44 AM
So it seems me and bob aren't the only ones...


Add me

DaBoys4Life
03-12-2009, 08:48 AM
Add me

and the Anti Ron Brace fan club grows!

SDogo
03-12-2009, 08:51 AM
and the Anti Ron Brace fan club grows!

I just don't see where all the hype comes from. Lazy fat guys are a dime a dozen. Playing next to Raji you would think with all the single blocking this guy saw if he was so good he would of had more of an impact. I watched BC games that for the whole game you never knew he was there.

DaBoys4Life
03-12-2009, 08:58 AM
I just don't see where all the hype comes from. Lazy fat guys are a dime a dozen. Playing next to Raji you would think with all the single blocking this guy saw if he was so good he would of had more of an impact. I watched BC games that for the whole game you never knew he was there.

That's what I'm saying.

Bob Sacamano
03-12-2009, 04:51 PM
I just don't see where all the hype comes from. Lazy fat guys are a dime a dozen. Playing next to Raji you would think with all the single blocking this guy saw if he was so good he would of had more of an impact. I watched BC games that for the whole game you never knew he was there.

I wish people would go beyond the fact that the Ron Brace is 330lbs.

if you watch him, all he does is absorb blocks, that's it

Vintage
03-12-2009, 05:19 PM
I wish people would go beyond the fact that the Ron Brace is 330lbs.

if you watch him, all he does is absorb blocks, that's it

So he's a blocker magnet, eh?

Bob Sacamano
03-12-2009, 06:45 PM
So he's a blocker magnet, eh?

apparently the best ever

Vintage
03-12-2009, 06:47 PM
apparently the best ever


Unpossible.

Brandon Noble.

Bob Sacamano
03-12-2009, 07:05 PM
Unpossible.

Brandon Noble.

the blocker magnet by which all blocker magnets are measured by

BAT
03-12-2009, 09:20 PM
Ron Brace and his thread hi-jackers.

irvin4evs
03-13-2009, 11:58 AM
All the talk of death and destruction has encouraged me to generate another! :D


Death & Destruction Mock

2nd Round:
Pat Chung S Oregon, 5'11 210 4.49

3rd Round:
James Casey FB Rice, 6'3 246 4.74

4th Round:
Paul Veikune OLB Hawaii, 6'3 257 4.79
Mitch King DL Iowa, 6'2 280 4.84

5th Round:
Zack Follett OLB Cal Berkeley, 6'2 236 4.68
Jason Williams ILB W Illinois 6'1 241 4.46

6th Round:
A.Q. Shipley C Penn State, 6'1 306 5.12
Ray Feinga OG Oregon, 6'5 337 5.30
Nathan Brown QB Central Ark, 6'1 220 4.93

7th Round:
Roy Miller NT Texas, 6'1 310 4.98
Lardarius Webb KR/DB 5'11 180 4.30


Violent collisons, leadership/character & playmaking galore!

I don't like a FB pick, but that 4th round and 2nd round would make me giddy.

BAT
03-16-2009, 10:23 PM
I don't like a FB pick, but that 4th round and 2nd round would make me giddy.

Well, it looks like you don't have to worry about Casey, he has steadily moved into the 2nd round.


Veikune may not be there either. Probably a 3rd or higher now. Going to have to redo this mock more than likely.

PokerPro
03-18-2009, 08:49 PM
All the talk of death and destruction has encouraged me to generate another! :D


Death & Destruction Mock

2nd Round:
Pat Chung S Oregon, 5'11 210 4.49

3rd Round:
James Casey FB Rice, 6'3 246 4.74

4th Round:
Paul Veikune OLB Hawaii, 6'3 257 4.79
Mitch King DL Iowa, 6'2 280 4.84

5th Round:
Zack Follett OLB Cal Berkeley, 6'2 236 4.68
Jason Williams ILB W Illinois 6'1 241 4.46

6th Round:
A.Q. Shipley C Penn State, 6'1 306 5.12
Ray Feinga OG Oregon, 6'5 337 5.30
Nathan Brown QB Central Ark, 6'1 220 4.93

7th Round:
Roy Miller NT Texas, 6'1 310 4.98
Lardarius Webb KR/DB 5'11 180 4.30


Violent collisons, leadership/character & playmaking galore!

I stopped reading after F.B. in round 3.

PokerPro
03-18-2009, 08:59 PM
All the talk of death and destruction has encouraged me to generate another! :D


Death & Destruction Mock

2nd Round:
Pat Chung S Oregon, 5'11 210 4.49

3rd Round:
James Casey FB Rice, 6'3 246 4.74

4th Round:
Paul Veikune OLB Hawaii, 6'3 257 4.79
Mitch King DL Iowa, 6'2 280 4.84

5th Round:
Zack Follett OLB Cal Berkeley, 6'2 236 4.68
Jason Williams ILB W Illinois 6'1 241 4.46

6th Round:
A.Q. Shipley C Penn State, 6'1 306 5.12
Ray Feinga OG Oregon, 6'5 337 5.30
Nathan Brown QB Central Ark, 6'1 220 4.93

7th Round:
Roy Miller NT Texas, 6'1 310 4.98
Lardarius Webb KR/DB 5'11 180 4.30


Violent collisons, leadership/character & playmaking galore!


We will be using one of our top 3 picks on a N.T., if Ratliff gets hurt we don't have ANYONE on our roster to step in and play, thus N.T. is a top priority in one of our top 3 picks.

We also need another C.B. cause if anyone of our top 3 corners gets hurt, we relly don[t have anyone to step in as a 3rd nickle corner also, so expect a C..B. to be taken in round 4 or 5.
Also we have Ware/Spencer/Ellis, only room for ONE O.L.B. on the roster, can't picture using a 4th and a 5th on O.L.B. and DEFINATELY can't see us drafting any FB. let alone one with our 2nd pick in this draft in round 3 considering there's not a F.B. coming out that's ranked higher then round 6.

Who is Jamses Casey anyway?
I can't find him listed ANYWHERE!

DaBoys4Life
03-18-2009, 09:00 PM
We will be using one of our top 3 picks on a N.T., if Ratliff gets hurt we don't have ANYONE on our roster to step in and play, thus N.T. is a top priority in one of our top 3 picks.

We also need another C.B. cause if anyone of our top 3 corners gets hurt, we relly don[t have anyone to step in as a 3rd nickle corner also, so expect a C..B. to be taken in round 4 or 5.
Also we have Ware/Spencer/Ellis, only room for ONE O.L.B. on the roster, can't picture using a 4th and a 5th on O.L.B. and DEFINATELY can't see us drafting any FB. let alone one with our 2nd pick in this draft in round 3 considering there's not a F.B. coming out that's ranked higher then round 6.

Who is Jamses Casey anyway?
I can't find him listed ANYWHERE!

James Casey is a TE from Rice go to nfldraftscout.com and check he's ranked 51 overall.

PokerPro
03-18-2009, 09:05 PM
No wonder I couldn't find him, I didn't research any T.E. since I can't see us taking one, maybe a 7th rounder, but that's it.
To draft a T.E. in round 3 to convert to F.B. when we reallly don't use the F.B. that much anyway to me is not good drafting.

BAT
03-19-2009, 12:10 AM
Who is Jamses Casey anyway?
I can't find him listed ANYWHERE!


Seriously, educate yourself if you are going to comment on a subject, the experience becomes infinitely more enjoyable, for all parties.

5mics
03-19-2009, 05:14 AM
So he's a blocker magnet, eh?
Perfecto! Occupying 2-3 blockers at a time would be perfect! :)

5mics
03-19-2009, 05:15 AM
I agreed about Follett, but your 4 to 7 can change completely depending on previous picks. I don't want him completly replacing? I am saying this gives us flexibility. So what is it you don't like about Brace. Olshansky,of what i have heard is better run stopper so my thinking is in pass situations mix it up? I am sorry guys we need a big body in the middle, I love Rat, but eventually he will brake down, because he is naturally to small,it's inevitable.
Oh man....now you've done it :lmao2: