Why are Barney Frank and Chris Dodd still in leadership positions?

[JBond]

These two individuals have been absolute failures. This is about accountability. Frank has been railing against AIG and paying for failure, yet isn't that what the American people are doing, paying Frank and Dodd for failure?

When will the Democrat party step up and do what is necessary for the best interests of the American people? There must be someone in the Democrat party that can do a better job than theses two clowns.

[Jarv]

These two individuals have been absolute failures. This is about accountability. Frank has been railing against AIG and paying for failure, yet isn't that what the American people are doing, paying Frank and Dodd for failure?

When will the Democrat party step up and do what is necessary for the best interests of the American people? There must be someone in the Democrat party that can do a better job than theses two clowns.

Dodd is involved with A LOT of shady dealings here in CT.

[BrAinPaiNt]

Since Franks is openly gay, everyone knows that he has the best gaydar on the hill and he probably has dirt on so many that they dare not cross him. :laugh2:

[Dallas]

Since Franks is openly gay, everyone knows that he has the best gaydar on the hill and he probably has dirt on so many that they dare not cross him. :laugh2:

http://www.afterelton.com/archive/elton/blog/uploads/2006/11/gaydar.PNG

[ninja]

Simply put, they are the best the Democrats have.

A better question: who are the absolute morons voting for these idiots?

[MetalHead]

Simply put, they are the best the Democrats have.

A better question: who are the absolute morons voting for these idiots?
There are some in this board.

[the fake norm hitzges]

Suddenly for some reason,Queen Pelosi doesnt wanna mention THE CULTURE OF CORRUPTION anymore.

HHHHHMMMMMMMMMMMM

[sbark]

Since Franks is openly gay, everyone knows that he has the best gaydar on the hill and he probably has dirt on so many that they dare not cross him. :laugh2:

.........so along the lines of J.Edgar Hoover, rumored to be gay, and had dirt on every politcian for 47 years up thru Nixon.........big History channel Doc.

get a kick out of Chris Wallace.......using Franks speech: Wep Barney Frank , more than once already

[BigWillie]

These two individuals have been absolute failures. This is about accountability. Frank has been railing against AIG and paying for failure, yet isn't that what the American people are doing, paying Frank and Dodd for failure?

When will the Democrat party step up and do what is necessary for the best interests of the American people? There must be someone in the Democrat party that can do a better job than theses two clowns.

For 8 years we were asking the same thing about Bush/Cheney. ;)

[burmafrd]

And in those 8 years those like YOU voted franks in FOUR TIMES.

[BrAinPaiNt]

And in those 8 years those like YOU voted franks in FOUR TIMES.

Change your sig and location...you are stateside now big guy.:starspin

[justbob]

And in those 8 years those like YOU voted franks in FOUR TIMES.

Heard you were back --congrats and THANKS:starspin

[SuspectCorner]

burm, I hope you're someplace where they have a lotta trees - shade's gotta be pretty rare and valuable commodity in a country like kuwait. You prolly own a lot of ballcaps.

[ABQCOWBOY]

For 8 years we were asking the same thing about Bush/Cheney. ;)


Yep. All the while, the economy prospered and the country was kept safe. Yep, it sucked alright.

[BrAinPaiNt]

Yep. All the while, the economy prospered and the country was kept safe. Yep, it sucked alright.

We were safe the whole time and the economy was great the whole time.

Wow.

[ABQCOWBOY]

We were safe the whole time and the economy was great the whole time.

Wow.


Yep, amazing to me too that so many complained about Bush under those circumstances as well.

It's a real head shaker.

[BigWillie]

Yep. All the while, the economy prospered and the country was kept safe. Yep, it sucked alright.

:lmao2:

[ABQCOWBOY]

:lmao2:


Everybody should be happy on St. Patrick's Day.

:)

[BrAinPaiNt]

Yep, amazing to me too that so many complained about Bush under those circumstances as well.

It's a real head shaker.

So I guess 9/11 never happened and we never had a financial crisis at the end of his administration.

Great stuff.

I see the W revisionist history mantra by his past flunkies is working on some.:laugh1:

[JBond]

So I guess 9/11 never happened and we never had a financial crisis at the end of his administration.

Great stuff.

I see the W revisionist history mantra by his past flunkies is working on some.:laugh1:

Of course there is another way to look at 911. If Clinton had not been such a puss Bin Laden would be rotting in a jail somewhere and 911 would have never happened. The fact is during the Bush administration they broke up numerous terror plots.

As far as the economy, that too can be strongly linked to the actions taken by democrats in the house and senate. Barney Frank and Chris Dodd should ring some bells for you.

[ConcordCowboy]

Yep. All the while, the economy prospered and the country was kept safe. Yep, it sucked alright.

We were safe the whole time and the economy was great the whole time.

Wow.

So I guess 9/11 never happened and we never had a financial crisis at the end of his administration.

Great stuff.

I see the W revisionist history mantra by his past flunkies is working on some.:laugh1:

Come on ABQ...I mean really.

:laugh2:

[BrAinPaiNt]

Of course there is another way to look at 911. If Clinton had not been such a puss Bin Laden would be rotting in a jail somewhere and 911 would have never happened. The fact is during the Bush administration they broke up numerous terror plots.

As far as the economy, that too can be strongly linked to the actions taken by democrats in the house and senate. Barney Frank and Chris Dodd should ring some bells for you.

No...because 9/11 never happened and we never had a financial crisis at any time during W's administration.

I mean all was well.

Nothing ever happened.

:laugh2:

[JBond]

No...because 9/11 never happened and we never had a financial crisis at any time during W's administration.

I mean all was well.

Nothing ever happened.

:laugh2:

Both of those things happened, but the reason behind them is what educated people focus on.

By the way, you have done your usual excellent job of hijacking a thread. Well done. Diverting attention from the real problems is a tactic widely used by those with no defense or answers.

Back to Barney Frank and Dodd. Do you believe they should be free of criticism and blame for the major role they played in the collapse of the housing market and eventual downturn of the economy?

Aren't you a Ron Paul guy? You know how he feels about those two goofballs, right?

[burmafrd]

Brain has to take shots at Bush= he would wither away and die if he didn't.

[Jordan55]

Well I feel alot better one of the main culprits in this financial melt down is now going to reform it.
Barney to the rescue!!!!

The chairman of the House Financial Services Committee said Tuesday he hoped to begin writing legislation by early May on overhauling how the federal government regulates the nation's financial system.

But Rep. Barney Frank, D-Mass., said at a hearing that they were still at the stage of listening to different opinions on how best to make future financial meltdowns less likely. Lawmakers and witnesses questioned whether the Federal Reserve was the best vehicle to oversee a consolidated regulatory system and debated whether more regulation was even needed.

"This will be a lengthy process," Frank said.

A goal of regulatory reform is to create a systemic risk regulator responsible for monitoring financial markets and institutions in order to head off the kind of high-stakes practices that contributed to the economy's current miseries.

White House spokesman Robert Gibbs said President Barack Obama wants both financial regulation reform and a new "resolution authority" to deal with giants such as American International Group Inc. that get into complex financial trouble. He said the authority would be used "to break apart, unwind and finally resolve the issues that we face with systemic risk."

[BrAinPaiNt]

Both of those things happened, but the reason behind them is what educated people focus on.

By the way, you have done your usual excellent job of hijacking a thread. Well done. Diverting attention from the real problems is a tactic widely used by those with no defense or answers.

Back to Barney Frank and Dodd. Do you believe they should be free of criticism and blame for the major role they played in the collapse of the housing market and eventual downturn of the economy?

Aren't you a Ron Paul guy? You know how he feels about those two goofballs, right?

First of all...I do recall a certain memo saying who was going to attack us and with airplanes when W took office...but that is here nor there I guess.

Also I have made no hiding of what I think of Barney. If you have not paid attention that is on you not I because I have made it clear over the months.

Nobody should be free of blame...including the congress, the administration, the administration appointees, the businesses themselves and some of the consumers taking on much more than they could ever reasonable think they could pay back.

Now I know we are all supposed to leave W out of it and praise him for having a great economic run and totally being safe both of his terms but those pesky little facts just keep getting in the way.

[Jordan55]

http://media.townhall.com/Townhall/Car/b/cb0316wj20090316065205.jpg

[BrAinPaiNt]

Brain has to take shots at Bush= he would wither away and die if he didn't.

I have W...you have anyone that does not believe the way you believe...aka Libbys even if they are not libbys.

[burmafrd]

Ol Billie boy could have had OSama two or three different times and did squat in 6 years. He ignored them after Khobar Towers and the Kenya bombs and did nothing. Yet brain wants to blame Bush who was barely in office 8 months and had a late start due to the election mess.

[MetalHead]

Ol Billie boy could have had OSama two or three different times and did squat in 6 years. He ignored them after Khobar Towers and the Kenya bombs and did nothing. Yet brain wants to blame Bush who was barely in office 8 months and had a late start due to the election mess.
Don't let the facts get on the way of a good Bush bashing.

[BrAinPaiNt]

Ol Billie boy could have had OSama two or three different times and did squat in 6 years. He ignored them after Khobar Towers and the Kenya bombs and did nothing. Yet brain wants to blame Bush who was barely in office 8 months and had a late start due to the election mess.

Actually they did miss Bin Laden by an hour or so with missile strikes. But at the end of the day Slick Willy could not get him and funny thing, or sad thing, is that neither could W when they invaded the country. Still Bin Laden is alive. So I don't know how you can crow about Willy missing him when you got the same result with W.:laugh1:

Now you want to say....it's not fair cause old BP is blaming W and he was only in office for 8 months....yet at the same time you and others are ragging on Obama for the economic crisis and he has been in office not even half of 8 months.

So which is it...8 months or before and they get no blame or under half of that and get blame all the way...make up your mind here.

[BrAinPaiNt]

Don't let the facts get on the way of a good Bush bashing.

:laugh1: Burm and facts go together like chuck norris and richard simmons.

The only fact is that anyone that does not agree with Burm is a libby in his fantasy world.

So...Shhh.

[burmafrd]

I guess you are out of it brain. You do remember Billie Boy being offered Osama and madeline dumbright saying we had no reason to take him- after he ahd been ID's by NSA as being part of the creation of the taliban and his involvement with other terror bombings...

You are the one living in a fantasy world if you think Billie boy did anything except get blow jobs by monica

[BrAinPaiNt]

I guess you are out of it brain. You do remember Billie Boy being offered Osama and madeline dumbright saying we had no reason to take him- after he ahd been ID's by NSA as being part of the creation of the taliban and his involvement with other terror bombings...

You are the one living in a fantasy world if you think Billie boy did anything except get blow jobs by monica

And I have said in the past he missed the boat on that one...but your boy W sure missed the boat as well...he took the eye off the prize and flat out said Bin Ladin was no longer a priority and he was no longer worried about him less than one year after 9/11.

And the fact...let me say that word again...FACT is he has not gotten OBL either.

So the end results are the same...OBL is still out there.

W made a funny remark that he was not going to fire a $2 million dollar missile into a tent to hit a camel in the butt...which was making fun of Clintons attempt to take out OBL. So instead what W does is spend much MUCH more, wind up having many soldiers die and divert his attention to Iraq with...just the fact again...the same results that clinton got.

I know that sucks to hear the truth and the facts...but at least you are stateside now.:)

[trickblue]

And I have said in the past he missed the boat on that one...but your boy W sure missed the boat as well...he took the eye off the prize and flat out said Bin Ladin was no longer a priority and he was no longer worried about him less than one year after 9/11.

In fairness... he should not have been an issue for W...

[BigWillie]

Actually they did miss Bin Laden by an hour or so with missile strikes. But at the end of the day Slick Willy could not get him and funny thing, or sad thing, is that neither could W when they invaded the country. Still Bin Laden is alive. So I don't know how you can crow about Willy missing him when you got the same result with W.:laugh1:

Now you want to say....it's not fair cause old BP is blaming W and he was only in office for 8 months....yet at the same time you and others are ragging on Obama for the economic crisis and he has been in office not even half of 8 months.

So which is it...8 months or before and they get no blame or under half of that and get blame all the way...make up your mind here.

I was watching a documentary about this whole saga. One thing they reported that was not widely known is that Clinton also had intel that OBL was staying at a Afghan presidential palace. They went as far to say that it was the best intel they received over the years about OBL and his whereabouts. They decided against bombing because a Mosque was directly next to this palace. They feared the anger from the Muslim world would outweigh the benefits of actually killing OBL. And it was not just Clinton who decided this, but his entire cabinet was against the idea of bombing.

[burmafrd]

Of course Brain thinks its the same= 8 years or eight months. No surprise there at all= anything to put as much blame on Bush as he can.

The MSM have burried it pretty well the number of times that Clinton and company were warned about AL Queeda and Osama and company and pretty much ignored them. Bottom line is he had YEARS to do something while Bush had barely = actually not even 8 months = yet brain things the blame is the same.

[BrAinPaiNt]

Of course Brain thinks its the same= 8 years or eight months. No surprise there at all= anything to put as much blame on Bush as he can.

The MSM have burried it pretty well the number of times that Clinton and company were warned about AL Queeda and Osama and company and pretty much ignored them. Bottom line is he had YEARS to do something while Bush had barely = actually not even 8 months = yet brain things the blame is the same.

No No NO don't try to twist this you dirty libby lover.

You want to blame Obama for everything under the moon and he has not been in office but 2-3 months.

However if someone brings up 9/11 under W's watch you claim...he was only in office 8 months.

So if it is ok for someone to get off the hook for only being in office 8 months why is it not the same for you with Obama who has been in office only 2-3 months?

Hmmmm.

[Jordan55]

http://www.ibdeditorials.com/IMAGES/cartoons/toon031809.gif

[BigWillie]

No No NO don't try to twist this you dirty libby lover.

You want to blame Obama for everything under the moon and he has not been in office but 2-3 months.

However if someone brings up 9/11 under W's watch you claim...he was only in office 8 months.

So if it is ok for someone to get off the hook for only being in office 8 months why is it not the same for you with Obama who has been in office only 2-3 months?

Hmmmm.

All's quiet in reply to this post. Wonder why?

:)

[ABQCOWBOY]

No No NO don't try to twist this you dirty libby lover.

You want to blame Obama for everything under the moon and he has not been in office but 2-3 months.

However if someone brings up 9/11 under W's watch you claim...he was only in office 8 months.

So if it is ok for someone to get off the hook for only being in office 8 months why is it not the same for you with Obama who has been in office only 2-3 months?

Hmmmm.

Since it has come by special request, I will try to respond to this post.

It is a fair point you bring BP but you have to understand that the key, at least in my opinion, is that it doesn't matter how the crisis arrives. It matters how you deal with it. I know that you and I don't see eye to eye on Former President Bush and his actions in the Middle East but, I also know that at the end of the day, we have commen goals. Those goals are to have a strong and prosperous nation. FP Bush delt with a very difficult situation to the best of his abilities and for better or worse, he will live with his legacy. The question of how long President Obama has been in office is more relivant to this issue then perhaps many care to admit but maybe not for the same reasons many might believe. In a very short period of time, he is changing the landscape of our country. Is it Socialisam? I think it's a bit early to define it as such but I also think that it's getting very close to a point where you can define it as such with no worry of mislabeling.

FP Bush didn't ask for the War but it happened on his watch so it's his responsability, for better or worse. President Obama may not have asked for the recession but it's his, for better or worse. The question I have is, Where is President Obama leading us? Is it really a better place? Is it really the best direction for our Country? Many of these programs, as you well know, are perminant. That means more drain on our economy that is never going away. Is that what we really need and is it fair for the rest of the country to have to pay for all of these special needs situations created by a state, for example, like California? I don't believe it should be the role of the federal government to decide this for us. That is just my opinion.

[Jordan55]

Chris Dodd confesses: Yes, I slipped in the AIG bonus protection…’cuz Treasury made me
Fall, fall on your sword, ye Purveyor of Hypocritical Indignation.

Via CNN, unscrupulous borrower and No. 1 AIG benefactor Chris Dodd admits that yes, yes, he did support AIG bonus protections before he was against them:

Senate Banking committee Chairman Christopher Dodd told CNN’s Dana Bash and Wolf Blitzer Wednesday that he was responsible for adding the bonus loophole into the stimulus package that permitted AIG and other companies that received bailout funds to pay bonuses.

On Tuesday, Dodd denied to CNN that he had anything to do with the adding of that provision.
CNN isn’t the only one he made the false claim to, according to a reader who phoned his office yesterday. Wendy N. e-mailed:

I’ve just recently discovered your web page, and I LOVE IT! It’s a great source of information. Speaking of which, after reading “Chris Dodd: For AIG bonuses before he was against them,” I decided to phone Chris Dodd’s office. Apparently, they’re calling Rich Edson and David Freddeso liars, as the person on the phone insisted that Chris Dodd added an amendment that would NOT allow bonuses to be paid with TARP funds, and that “somebody else” in committee added the exemption, NOT Senator Dodd. Go figure?!

Thanks again,
Wendy N.
Chris Dodd: Lying crapweasel, bailout lackey, winner of Kabuki Theater of AIG outrage lifetime achievement award

[Jarv]

Dodd and the Obuya administration put the loophole in that allowed the AIG bonuses. How many millions did that cost the tax payers ? Millions lost should cause him to resign or be fired.

Then Rell can appoint a nice republican senator...:)

[BigWillie]

Since it has come by special request, I will try to respond to this post.

It is a fair point you bring BP but you have to understand that the key, at least in my opinion, is that it doesn't matter how the crisis arrives. It matters how you deal with it. I know that you and I don't see eye to eye on Former President Bush and his actions in the Middle East but, I also know that at the end of the day, we have commen goals. Those goals are to have a strong and prosperous nation. FP Bush delt with a very difficult situation to the best of his abilities and for better or worse, he will live with his legacy. The question of how long President Obama has been in office is more relivant to this issue then perhaps many care to admit but maybe not for the same reasons many might believe. In a very short period of time, he is changing the landscape of our country. Is it Socialisam? I think it's a bit early to define it as such but I also think that it's getting very close to a point where you can define it as such with no worry of mislabeling.

FP Bush didn't ask for the War but it happened on his watch so it's his responsability, for better or worse. President Obama may not have asked for the recession but it's his, for better or worse. The question I have is, Where is President Obama leading us? Is it really a better place? Is it really the best direction for our Country? Many of these programs, as you well know, are perminant. That means more drain on our economy that is never going away. Is that what we really need and is it fair for the rest of the country to have to pay for all of these special needs situations created by a state, for example, like California? I don't believe it should be the role of the federal government to decide this for us. That is just my opinion.

If you can dodge bullets like you dodge questions you'll be like stinkin' Keanu Reeves.

http://jimbocyberdoc.files.wordpress.com/2008/03/matrix_l.jpg

[MetalHead]

:laugh1: Burm and facts go together like chuck norris and richard simmons.

The only fact is that anyone that does not agree with Burm is a libby in his fantasy world.

So...Shhh.

spoken like a true obama voter.

[Dallas]

If you can dodge bullets like you dodge questions you'll be like stinkin' Keanu Reeves.

http://jimbocyberdoc.files.wordpress.com/2008/03/matrix_l.jpg

Big thought into this post. You need new material btw. This is the 2nd time you have used this on the boards.

Google more images maybe.

[BrAinPaiNt]

spoken like a true obama voter.

Too bad I did not vote for him, but of course it is becoming pretty common thing for you to be wrong.

Facts is Facts....and again you missed them.

[ABQCOWBOY]

If you can dodge bullets like you dodge questions you'll be like stinkin' Keanu Reeves.

http://jimbocyberdoc.files.wordpress.com/2008/03/matrix_l.jpg


Tell you what. If you can manage an intelligent question, I will do my best to answer it.

[BigWillie]

Big thought into this post. You need new material btw. This is the 2nd time you have used this on the boards.

Google more images maybe.

Dallas make a post that makes me say "huh"?

Do me a favor -- click my name, search my posts and look for the same thing. When you feel silly enough come back and apologize to me. I'll give you a pat on the butt and tell you it's okay, then we can go back to our regularly scheduled programming of the biggest Republican circle jerk in the history of the internet. Mmmkay?

Tell you what. If you can manage an intelligent question, I will do my best to answer it.

Feisty. Me likes.

Although you still did not answer his question -- again.

[Dallas]

Dallas make a post that makes me say "huh"?

Do me a favor -- click my name, search my posts and look for the same thing. When you feel silly enough come back and apologize to me. I'll give you a pat on the butt and tell you it's okay, then we can go back to our regularly scheduled programming of the biggest Republican circle jerk in the history of the internet. Mmmkay?



Feisty. Me likes.

Although you still did not answer his question -- again.

How pathetic. Are you telling me that this is all the content you expect to bring to this forum?

I got your apology bro. :rolleyes: You go around touching men on the butt often? That's your thing?

How long have you had these tendencies? Have you told your parents?

[ABQCOWBOY]

Dallas make a post that makes me say "huh"?

Do me a favor -- click my name, search my posts and look for the same thing. When you feel silly enough come back and apologize to me. I'll give you a pat on the butt and tell you it's okay, then we can go back to our regularly scheduled programming of the biggest Republican circle jerk in the history of the internet. Mmmkay?



Feisty. Me likes.

Although you still did not answer his question -- again.


I suppose if BP felt as if I did not answer his question, he would reply. That's how it works. Now, if you have a question, I'm happy to respond like wise.

[BigWillie]

How pathetic. Are you telling me that this is all the content you expect to bring to this forum?

I got your apology bro. :rolleyes: You go around touching men on the butt often? That's your thing?

How long have you had these tendencies? Have you told your parents?

Maybe. But maybe I should strive to take your job of making stupid accusations to attempt to beat a poster down. But then I wouldn't keep the job I have now which is resident pisser offer. And yes, pisser offer is a real job.

Touching men on the butt can be my thing. Although I prefer the more muscular kind. Call me crazy on that.

Ah, I would tell them. But I can't tell who the man is in my parents relationship. If I knew who to call 'dad' I may talk to them once in a while, but I chose to avoid those creepy bastids for the most part.

Homophobia much? I guess stereotypes are true.