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stasheroo
03-17-2009, 09:34 PM
Here's my annual effort in futility, let me know what you guys think:
Stash's Dallas Cowboys 2009 Mock Draft
Round 2 : Duke Robinson - OG - Oklahoma - 65 335 lbs.
Massive drive-blocking mauler who plays with a mean streak. Capable of pancaking opponents. Has long arms for a guard. Solid short-area quickness for a player his size. Durable player with size, strength, and drive to compete immediately at the next level. Robinson is capable of contributing quickly to improving the Cowboys running game.
Round 3: Jason Watkins - OT - Florida - 66 317 lbs
Athletic left tackle prospect with quick feet to play at the NFL level. Effective in space and capable of getting to the second level. Versatile, has also played on the right side so he could begin his career as a swing tackle. Has long arms and excellent athleticism with considerable upside potential.
Round 4: Tony Fiammetta FB- Syracuse 60 246 lbs.
Solid, tough fullback who can block, catch, and run. Came into his own as a true fullback in 2008. Often used in motion so his versatility is also a plus. A team leader who will run through walls to help his team win. I feel he would be a considerable improvement over the average Deon Anderson and help the Cowboys 3-headed monster running game.
Round 4: Johnny Knox WR Abilene Christian 511 185 lbs.
Speed-burning deep threat with 2,227 yards and 30 touchdowns the past two seasons. Solid candidate for slot and kick return duties. Provides a nice contrast to the long-striders this team currently has at receiver. Will need some polish and time to adjust to the pro game, but the potential is certainly there. Recent 4.3 40 time has his stock on the rise.
Round 5: Rashad Johnson - FS Alabama - 511 195 lbs.
Smart, undersized player with excellent instincts and a nose for the ball. Great hands for the interception and makes the most of his opportunities. His three interceptions led the way for his teams victory over LSU. Hard worker and team leader who can make the defensive calls. His only downside is a lack of prototypical size.
Round 5: Stephen McGee QB Texas A & M 63 223 lbs.
Solid physical specimen with the smarts and leadership skills to develop into a solid NFL quarterback. Team-oriented player open to coaching, should make for an ideal developmental quarterback behind Tony Romo and could develop into a future starter.
Round 5: Jason Phillips - ILB - TCU 61 236 lbs.
Smart football player, son of a football coach. Capable of calling defensive plays. Tough player who plays through pain. Good speed for his size and good awareness in coverage. Could start out as special teams contributor while he develops. Recent injury is the reason hes still available in 5th round.
Round 6: Bradley Fletcher CB Iowa 61 195 lbs.
Terrific athletic ability and solid size for the position. Matches up well with bigger receivers. Solid special teams player who can contribute in that role while he develops his game as a cornerback.
Round 6: Jasper Brinkley ILB South Carolina 62 265 lbs.
Solid size and strength to play inside in a 3-4 system. Natural instincts and an aggressive blitzer. Recent struggles and injury have dropped his stock, but he still has the potential to develop into a solid inside presence.
Round 7: Lee Robinson OLB - Alcorn State - 62 243 lbs.
Team leader and solid character. Very productive player coming off a solid senior season. A bit raw, but a natural athlete, Robinson could fill a rush linebacker role while his overall game develops.
Round 7: Antonio Dixon DT Miami 63 326 lbs.
Solid nose tackle candidate with the strength to stack linemen and stuff the inside running game. Able to handle the double-team. Above average agility for a player his size. While not a full-time starter, he wont be asked to be in Dallas either, but could provide a breather for Ratliff at nose tackle.
SLATEmosphere
03-17-2009, 10:06 PM
LOL at the Rashad Johnson, Jason Phillips and Jasper Brinkley pick going in the 5th and 6th rounds...Watkins is slow and weak. The only picks I like is Duke and Phillips.
DaBoys4Life
03-17-2009, 10:59 PM
I stopped reading after a FB in the 4th.
Dash28
03-17-2009, 11:23 PM
Johnson most likely will go in round 2.
AbeBeta
03-17-2009, 11:24 PM
FB?
1. we have one.
2. we likely use Barber and Choice in various "Richie Anderson" sets next year to replace the one we have for at least 10 snaps a game.
28 Joker
03-18-2009, 12:34 AM
I'd take Rashad Johnson over Delmas. The 2nd round pick is a good one. You addressed guard with the number 1 guard prospect.
I would like to see another fullback taken. I like Quinn Johnson, but the guy from Syracuse is good, too.
Jordan55
03-18-2009, 07:54 AM
Here's my annual effort in futility, let me know what you guys think:
Stash, appreciate the effort, I tend to agree with the others don't see Rashad Johnson falling into round 5.
stasheroo
03-18-2009, 08:13 AM
Stash, appreciate the effort, I tend to agree with the others don't see Rashad Johnson falling into round 5.
Thanks for the kind words.
Johnson was the toughest choice for me to make.
I originally had him in Round 3, but then felt neither Watkins, Fiammetta, nor Knox would last until round 5 at this point.
And I read that some scouts considered Johnson a 5th round prospect so I figured putting him there would give me the best chance to get the players I had hoped.
And given the fact that Hamlin has a big contract to play free safety, I thought it was the position I could wait on.
DaBoys4Life
03-18-2009, 10:18 AM
FB?
1. we have one.
2. we likely use Barber and Choice in various "Richie Anderson" sets next year to replace the one we have for at least 10 snaps a game.
Our FB should be cut.
stasheroo
03-18-2009, 10:35 AM
Our FB should be cut.
I personally think the team could do a lot better in that area and an upgrade would be a huge improvement for the offense.
DaBoys4Life
03-18-2009, 10:40 AM
I personally think the team could do a lot better in that area and an upgrade would be a huge improvement for the offense.
Yeah he's bit a good blocker he can't catch or rush and he missed the bblock that lead to Romo's injury enough reason for him to get cut.
jterrell
03-18-2009, 12:52 PM
Not a big fan of this mock Stash.
Nothing personal here just not sure I agree on priorities with you.
I do like Rashad Johnson a lot and if he is there at top of round 3 my guess is we'd take him in a heartbeat if we haven't already drafted a safety.
Not gonna bother with another SS/FS lecture but be sure that we will draft a guy who can play FS. If a guy has hard hitter and in the box type or struggles in coverage next to his name you can forget it.
Duke is our type guy and I could see us grab him at 51 for sure. We like guys who play football in the south and we like big monster OL.
Watkins is NOT our type of guy at all. We'd think of him at a blocking TE, lol. He needs to go to a finesse zone blocking scheme.
FB is a position where we carry all of one body. We don't hold it in high value and thus I don't see us using a pick as high as round 4 to address it. Cricket isn't great but he gets the job done when healthy. He is also one of our better special teamers. But even if we do upgrade the last consideration will be how good of a runner the guy is. We have 3 runners as is.
FWIW, Bennett has been working more and more out of the backfield so he can be on the field with Witten more often.
stasheroo
03-18-2009, 07:57 PM
Not a big fan of this mock Stash.
Nothing personal here just not sure I agree on priorities with you.
No problem. I appreciate the feedback anyway.
I do like Rashad Johnson a lot and if he is there at top of round 3 my guess is we'd take him in a heartbeat if we haven't already drafted a safety.
Yeah, like I said, I had him there originally but though they had a chance to get him later because of less than ideal size. He's a playmaker who I feel could be another Ed Reed.
Not gonna bother with another SS/FS lecture but be sure that we will draft a guy who can play FS. If a guy has hard hitter and in the box type or struggles in coverage next to his name you can forget it.
Agreed.
Duke is our type guy and I could see us grab him at 51 for sure. We like guys who play football in the south and we like big monster OL.
I think Duke could step right in at LG and allow Kosier to serve in a utility lineman role. And he would also add to increasing the physicality of this team and its' running game (which I feel they need)
Watkins is NOT our type of guy at all. We'd think of him at a blocking TE, lol. He needs to go to a finesse zone blocking scheme.
I think Watkins has the ability to develop into a solid LT and a year in a pro strength training program could do wonders for him. I think the raw skills are there. And I don't see how they can do better where they're drafting.
FB is a position where we carry all of one body. We don't hold it in high value and thus I don't see us using a pick as high as round 4 to address it. Cricket isn't great but he gets the job done when healthy. He is also one of our better special teamers. But even if we do upgrade the last consideration will be how good of a runner the guy is. We have 3 runners as is.
And I see that as part of the problem. This team should hold it in high value. When you've got a good one, it makes your running game much better. My think is why have 'just a guy' when you can have the best one in the draft and add another dimension to your offense?
FWIW, Bennett has been working more and more out of the backfield so he can be on the field with Witten more often.
I'd prefer Bennett do what he's best at and the team get a fullback who can already do what they're looking for in the backfield.
But that's just my opinion and what I would do.
Thanks again for the response!
MichaelWinicki
03-18-2009, 08:10 PM
I don't like the thought that guys drafted in rounds 2 & 3 probably won't see the field this year.
The guys that fill positions that could see the field this year... NT, FS, CB, ILB aren't picked until later.
Sorta arse backwards.
And we still don't have a decent back-up center.
PokerPro
03-18-2009, 08:12 PM
Round 2 : Duke Robinson - OG - Oklahoma - 65 335 lbs.
I actually had him going to us in my mock if he fell.
Round 3: Jason Watkins - OT - Florida - 66 317 lbs
WAY too early for Watkins, he's like a 5th round prospect.
Round 4: Tony Fiammetta FB- Syracuse 60 246 lbs.
Can't see us using a 4th rounder ona F.B., can't picture him much better then Anderson anyway.
Round 4: Johnny Knox WR Abilene Christian 511 185 lbs.
Not bad, I coud live with it.
Round 5: Rashad Johnson - FS Alabama - 511 195 lbs.
He's a 2nd round prospect, again, what site are you using to gauge these rounds for the player?
Round 5: Stephen McGee QB Texas A & M 63 223 lbs.
I don't mind it.
Round 5: Jason Phillips - ILB - TCU 61 236 lbs.
AGAIN, he was a 2nd round prospect, got hurt but is still a 3rd round prospect at worst.
Round 6: Bradley Fletcher CB Iowa 61 195 lbs.
O.K. I guess.
Round 6: Jasper Brinkley ILB South Carolina 62 265 lbs.
Will be LONG GONE!
Round 7: Lee Robinson OLB - Alcorn State - 62 243 lbs.
Don't knwo much about him
Round 7: Antonio Dixon DT Miami 63 326 lbs.
I like his upside, but a few problems, we won't be using two picks on I.L.B., and we'll be using one of our top 3 picks on a N.T. in my opinion, and I don't like F.B. in round 4 either.
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Stash, I got your back on upgrading the FB position. So much so that I had Dallas taking one in round 3. LOL
Their comments for you are pretty tame, compared to all the "death" and "suicide" talk that accompanied mine. LOL
stasheroo
03-18-2009, 08:36 PM
I don't like the thought that guys drafted in rounds 2 & 3 probably won't see the field this year.
The guys that fill positions that could see the field this year... NT, FS, CB, ILB aren't picked until later.
Sorta arse backwards.
I can see your point. But my thinking was that Robinson could start this season, adding another physical component to the line. And that would allow Kosier to be the team's top backup lineman. Watkins wouldn't start obviously, but I think he's got the tools to be the team's future left tackle in a year. And for that, I would be willing to wait. But obviously other people don't have the same opinion of him.
Personally, I don't see a FS doing a whole lot this year anyway. The team paid Hamlin huge money to do that and signed Sensabaugh to take over at SS. I don't envision a rookie safety having a huge impact in '09.
At one time, I thought the team would look for a true NT and move Ratliff to DE. But with Olshansky's signing, I think they like the current from 3 and will look for a NT prospect later - if at all - and let Anderson or Siavii and the rookie battle it out for the backup role in camp.
As for CB, with the Sensabaugh signing, I don't know how much work a rookie corner would get. Hamlin, Sensabaugh, Newman, and Jenkins/Scandrick will start with the loser of Jenkins/Scandrick being the nickel guy.
And the team is saying that they expect Brooking to be a 3 down player so a rookie would have to be special to see extended time there as well.
At least that's how I see things.
But a fullback would start and if he brings what the teams needs, he'd play a lot. And I envision Knox as both slot receiver and an explosive return man who could be the player they hoped Stanbak would be. His quickness and cutting abilitity would be a great complement to the long-striders this team currently has at receiver.
And we still don't have a decent back-up center.
I was hoping that Kosier could handle that role, or that if Procter does return, that it would be solely at backup center.
That was my line of thinking and why I made the choices I did.
stasheroo
03-18-2009, 08:51 PM
I actually had him going to us in my mock if he fell.
WAY too early for Watkins, he's like a 5th round prospect.
Most rankings I see have him going between round 3 and round 4. Sporting News likes him in Round 3.
Can't see us using a 4th rounder ona F.B., can't picture him much better then Anderson anyway.
You're probably right and they probably won't. But I feel they should. And I feel that Fiammetta could be special and a team leader while Anderson is just a guy and just happy to be here.
Not bad, I coud live with it.
Knox is a favorite prospect of mine. I think his explosiveness could be just what both this offense and the return games need.
He's a 2nd round prospect, again, what site are you using to gauge these rounds for the player?
In this case, again Sporting News. They have him in Round 4 and I was taking the chance that he'd be there in Round 5. Arguably a bit of a stretch on my part.
I don't mind it.
I think he fits the profile of everything you'd want in a backup/developmental quarterback.
AGAIN, he was a 2nd round prospect, got hurt but is still a 3rd round prospect at worst.
I'm seeing him listed at rounds 3-4 before the injury. I believe that would be enough to drop him down at least a round.
O.K. I guess.
I think Fletcher makes for a nice developmental cornerback.
Will be LONG GONE!
All the rankings I've seen value Brinkley as a 7th rounder. The only overestimating I've seen is on the message boards.
Don't knwo much about him
He's a good pass rusher who needs work on his overall game. And I think the Cowboys would be a nice fit.
I like his upside, but a few problems, we won't be using two picks on I.L.B., and we'll be using one of our top 3 picks on a N.T. in my opinion, and I don't like F.B. in round 4 either.]
You may be right. This is just what I would do were I in charge.
Thanks for the feedback!
PokerPro
03-18-2009, 09:11 PM
[quote=stasheroo;2694822]Most rankings I see have him going between round 3 and round 4. Sporting News likes him in Round 3.
Sporting News is the WORST SITE EVER!
I just read an article someone posted from there and they said Knox and Deon butler, two guys who ran sub 4.4 at the combines were NOT FAST and Derrick Williams, a guy who is suppsoed to be fast but ran a 4.58 at the combine WAS FAST, so that makes me think someone's smoking some good drugs over at sporting news to say a guy who runs a 4.58 they sayd he's really fast and two guys who run 4.3 something are NOT FAST!
In this case, again Sporting News. They have him in Round 4 and I was taking the chance that he'd be there in Round 5. Arguably a bit of a stretch on my part.
I would stay FAR AWAY from the sporting news, HORRIBLE HORRIBLE draft site, TOTALLY CLUELESS IMO!
All the rankings I've seen value Brinkley as a 7th rounder. The only overestimating I've seen is on the message boards.
He'll get picked between rounds 3-5, NO LATER!
Like I said, I'd stay FAR AWAY from a website that claims the two W.R.'s who ran the fastest at the combines, they say they are NOT FAST and a WR. who ran a 4.58 WAS FAST, that speaks VOLUMES on the credibility of their site.
irvin4evs
03-19-2009, 12:13 AM
he missed the bblock that lead to Romo's injury enough reason for him to get cut.
You are the ultimate embodiment of knee-jerk insanity.
anyway, LOL @ Johnson in the 5th
MichaelWinicki
03-19-2009, 09:41 AM
I can see your point. But my thinking was that Robinson could start this season, adding another physical component to the line. And that would allow Kosier to be the team's top backup lineman. Watkins wouldn't start obviously, but I think he's got the tools to be the team's future left tackle in a year. And for that, I would be willing to wait. But obviously other people don't have the same opinion of him.
Personally, I don't see a FS doing a whole lot this year anyway. The team paid Hamlin huge money to do that and signed Sensabaugh to take over at SS. I don't envision a rookie safety having a huge impact in '09.
At one time, I thought the team would look for a true NT and move Ratliff to DE. But with Olshansky's signing, I think they like the current from 3 and will look for a NT prospect later - if at all - and let Anderson or Siavii and the rookie battle it out for the backup role in camp.
As for CB, with the Sensabaugh signing, I don't know how much work a rookie corner would get. Hamlin, Sensabaugh, Newman, and Jenkins/Scandrick will start with the loser of Jenkins/Scandrick being the nickel guy.
And the team is saying that they expect Brooking to be a 3 down player so a rookie would have to be special to see extended time there as well.
At least that's how I see things.
But a fullback would start and if he brings what the teams needs, he'd play a lot. And I envision Knox as both slot receiver and an explosive return man who could be the player they hoped Stanbak would be. His quickness and cutting abilitity would be a great complement to the long-striders this team currently has at receiver.
I was hoping that Kosier could handle that role, or that if Procter does return, that it would be solely at backup center.
That was my line of thinking and why I made the choices I did.
But at guard you're forgetting Holland is on the roster and has started many games in the NFL-- and he looked good before he got hurt.
At OT we still have Free... Could we use another OT if McQ isn't going to pan-out? You bet.
But, what if Ratliff is hurt? We have less depth at that starting position than any other on the team outside of FB, which is a position that can be worked around-- you can't "work around" NT.
I can't see the club not investing in another NT somewhere between the 2nd and 4th rounds.
stasheroo
03-19-2009, 10:38 AM
But at guard you're forgetting Holland is on the roster and has started many games in the NFL-- and he looked good before he got hurt.
At OT we still have Free... Could we use another OT if McQ isn't going to pan-out? You bet.
But, what if Ratliff is hurt? We have less depth at that starting position than any other on the team outside of FB, which is a position that can be worked around-- you can't "work around" NT.
I can't see the club not investing in another NT somewhere between the 2nd and 4th rounds.
I see where you're coming from and I actually feel you're right about NT. My original thought was to go with Ron Brace. But from the moves the Cowboys are making, it looks to me like they're planning to keep Ratliff at nose tackle and hope to get a backup from Anderson or Siavii.
Bob Sacamano
03-19-2009, 10:57 AM
sorry stash, it sucks
stasheroo
03-19-2009, 11:06 AM
sorry stash, it sucks
No problem.
I appreciate the feedback anyway.
Bob Sacamano
03-19-2009, 11:08 AM
No problem.
I appreciate the feedback anyway.
get mad, that's our thing man
stasheroo
03-19-2009, 11:16 AM
get mad, that's our thing man
Fine.
You don't know what you're talking about!
You suck!
That is a perfect mock and you're clueless!
(better?)
Bob Sacamano
03-19-2009, 11:21 AM
Fine.
You don't know what you're talking about!
You suck!
That is a perfect mock and you're clueless!
(better?)
screw you stash!
stasheroo
03-19-2009, 12:40 PM
screw you stash!
and all is well.....
P.S. Don't make me start up the Matt Jones talk again!
(you've been warned!)
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