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Woods

03-22-2009, 11:40 AM

dmoore

03-22-2009, 12:07 PM

DaBoys4Life

03-22-2009, 12:13 PM

I'm all for Casey he like Witten except he can run and pass the ball. This guy would be a great addition. We could cut anderson and curtis. Win freaking Win.

SDogo

03-22-2009, 12:43 PM

I'm all for Casey he like Witten except he can run and pass the ball. This guy would be a great addition. We could cut anderson and curtis. Win freaking Win.

The guy is not a lead blocker and Curtis was never resigned. Hannah is our 3rd string TE now.

SDogo

03-22-2009, 12:44 PM

I like him, but not really for Dallas. He's a weapon, but not one that is very needed or would get too many touches. I'd rather just get Bennett more involved in the offense. At FB, I think we should look for a big time lead blocker if we're going to bring somebody in.

my feelings exactly. Casey is going to go somewhere in the 2nd to early 3rd round and it's a waste of a pick that early for Dallas. Way to many other area's need looked at.

BAT

03-25-2009, 09:55 PM

my feelings exactly. Casey is going to go somewhere in the 2nd to early 3rd round and it's a waste of a pick that early for Dallas. Way to many other area's need looked at.

Honestly, I would rather have Casey than Rashad Johnson. Casey would actually compete for a starting position on offense (likely to win both FB & ST duties outright from Cricket IMO) and would be a ST demon.

Johnson is a good player, but where would he contribute? He will not beat out either Hamlin or Sensabaugh.

Bob Sacamano

03-26-2009, 12:23 PM

I like this guy alot, very explosive, a good athlete (4.48 shuttle, 7 3-cone), I think he could be spread out wide too

Woods

03-26-2009, 01:51 PM

Honestly, I would rather have Casey than Rashad Johnson. Casey would actually compete for a starting position on offense (likely to win both FB & ST duties outright from Cricket IMO) and would be a ST demon.

Johnson is a good player, but where would he contribute? He will not beat out either Hamlin or Sensabaugh.

That's what I was thinking about Casey as well.

He could possibly be a starter.

And another weapon on offense.

cowboyjoe

03-26-2009, 02:04 PM

yeah but we have more pressing needs now, OG, possibly OT, backup young QB, linebacker, NT, safety or cornerback, fullback

i do agree however when you do pick and casey is there, take him, you take the best player on the board when its your turn to draft, just dont reach

but with Witten, and Bennett, and promising Hannah, dont see a need at TE

dmoore

03-26-2009, 02:25 PM

I think the logic some of you are using is flawed. From what I've seen, Casey is going to be a 2-3rd round pick. He's not worth that high of a selection for the Dallas Cowboys. Sure, he could possibly start at FB/H-Back. How many touches do you think he'd get over a whole season, assuming he learns the offense quick and performs well? By my count, he'd be behind 3 RBs, 3 WRs (maybe 4), and 2 TEs on the totem pole for touches. Is the few touches he'd bring that much of an improvement over what we would get out of Cricket? Cricket has decent hands and is a fairly good lead blocker. He'll be a good pick for someone, but not us. You can make the argument that he'd allow us to do things with our offense that Cricket doesn't, but I don't think that holds much weight. No team is going to game plan for Casey when they have to worry about the rest of the guys we're lining up. They won't care if we split him out wide, they probably would be glad that they don't have to see Bennett. I have the feeling our offense is going to be a lot more vanilla than you Madden types would like. Or best chances for a successful season is behind the strength of our running game and using that to set up the intermediate passing game. Having Casey doesn't mean the offense will be improved.

Casey as a "starter" would not be more important to the team than a back-up safety. If one of our offensive weapons go down, we have 6 or 7 other guys that can step up and pick up the slack. If one of our starting safeties go down, it could cost of a ballgame or two.

BAT

03-26-2009, 09:44 PM

SDogo

03-26-2009, 10:00 PM

James Casey - TE - Player

Rice TE James Casey was timed at 4.80 and 4.79 in the forty-yard dash at his Pro Day on Thursday.

Casey actually lost time from his 4.71, 4.72 at the Combine, but he should still go in the first three rounds. Wide receiver scoring machine Jarett Dillard clocked in at 4.50 and 4.53 with a 40.5 inch vertical jump and a 10-foot, 11-inch broad jump.
Mar. 26 - 5:31 p.m. ET
Source: NFL.com

Seriously spread out wide? TE?

Come on, the guy is an average athlete with good hands. Not big enough to play FB, not fast enough to get seperation from LB's in the NFL.

He may go in the first three rounds but it's not pick Dallas can afford.

SDogo

03-26-2009, 10:03 PM

Casey on the other hand, is immediately "Romo friendly". He is tough, hard working, competitive and will do anything to the best of his ability. Cricket is no pro FB, not a starter at least. And Casey will be as good, if not better than Cricket at ST (Cricket's real value on this team). Casey is not just some unathletic overachiever, he is a true playmaker, plain and simple, you cannot have enough of those. I have no doubt Casey, with his sure hands & RAC ability, becomes a Romo favorite.

You have a serious over inflated vision of this kids play making ability. He may of been ok at Rice but his size, speed and skill set translate to a LIMITED roll player and special teams fixture in the NFL. Not some one Dallas needs to take in the first 3 rounds.

BAT

03-26-2009, 10:08 PM

You have a serious over inflated vision of this kids play making ability. He may of been ok at Rice but his size, speed and skill set translate to a LIMITED roll player and special teams fixture in the NFL. Not some one Dallas needs to take in the first 3 rounds.

I have an inflated "vision" of his playmaking ability? How many college TEs almost led the nation in catches? He was second. How many have double digit TDs AND over a 1,000 yards?

How many have scored multiple TDs running AND passing?

Its not me who is projecting him to go in the first 3 rounds. Its the experts. You may not comprehend his worth or recognize his talent, but I have nothing to do with his production, character, potential and especially his projection to succeed in the pros. How many LIMITED role players are PROJECTED to go in the first 3 rounds???

dmoore

03-26-2009, 10:08 PM

Rashad Johnson would not start even if Hamlin or Sensabaugh go down. Let's be real.

Rashad Johson needs to get on a pro weight program, first and foremost, THEN learn to play either safety spot. He will not beat out Watkins, Battle, or even Courtney Brown. Not to mention, Scandrick is waiting in the wings, the "Star" position is off the table right now, but you can bet, Scandrick will be in the thick of things if either Hamlin or Sensabaugh can't play.

Casey on the other hand, is immediately "Romo friendly". He is tough, hard working, competitive and will do anything to the best of his ability. Cricket is no pro FB, not a starter at least. And Casey will be as good, if not better than Cricket at ST (Cricket's real value on this team). Casey is not just some unathletic overachiever, he is a true playmaker, plain and simple, you cannot have enough of those. I have no doubt Casey, with his sure hands & RAC ability, becomes a Romo favorite.

This thread isn't about Johnson. However, I'd rather have Dallas pick a safety they think highly of in the 2nd or 3rd round than waste a high pick on Casey. No knock on his ability, but he'd be a complete waste of a pick. We don't need him, and we're not even marginally better with him. Also, he's going to be 25 so I think his upside is limited. BPA is a good strategy to a point, but when the best player doesn't bring much value to your football team you go in another direction. If you don't like Cricket at FB, one can be found in the 7th or undrafted. Why use a 3rd, heck even a 4th or 5th, on a guy who won't touch the ball? Even looking 3 or 4 years out, he'll still be behind a bunch of guys. Safety depth >>>> "starting" FB/H-Back/weapon. At least for Dallas, that's the way things are.

dmoore

03-26-2009, 10:11 PM

Its not me who is projecting him to go in the first 3 rounds. Its the experts. You may not understand, but I have nothing to do with his production, character or his projection.

I have a strong feeling none of the *experts* would think he's worth a pick in the first 3 rounds for Dallas. That's what this message board is about. There's lots of players I like that have no chance of being Cowboys simply because they don't fit in with the direction this team is going to go in the draft.

SDogo

03-26-2009, 10:13 PM

I have an inflated "vision" of his playmaking ability? How many college TEs almost led the nation in catches? He was second. How many have double digit TDs AND over a 1,000 yards?

How many have scored multiple TDs running AND passing?

Its not me who is projecting him to go in the first 3 rounds. Its the experts. You may not comprehend his worth or recognize his talent, but I have nothing to do with his production, character, potential and especially his projection to succeed in the pros. How many LIMITED role players are PROJECTED to go in the first 3 rounds???

The TE's that did or were in the top 5, there are a dozen of them with in reach of the top spot, D2 TE's that put up better numbers and have better measurables not to mention 4 years younger.

Like I said, he may be a 2nd or 3rd round pick for some one but let that team have him that early. WAY to many depth issues on this team to be taking a 3rd TE/emergency QB (When you have 2 on the roster) or spot duty FB because he can't hold up playing it full time and we don't deploy a FB enough to justify it.

BAT

03-26-2009, 10:19 PM

This thread isn't about Johnson. However, I'd rather have Dallas pick a safety they think highly of in the 2nd or 3rd round than waste a high pick on Casey. No knock on his ability, but he'd be a complete waste of a pick. We don't need him, and we're not even marginally better with him. Also, he's going to be 25 so I think his upside is limited. BPA is a good strategy to a point, but when the best player doesn't bring much value to your football team you go in another direction. If you don't like Cricket at FB, one can be found in the 7th or undrafted. Why use a 3rd, heck even a 4th or 5th, on a guy who won't touch the ball? Even looking 3 or 4 years out, he'll still be behind a bunch of guys. Safety depth >>>> "starting" FB/H-Back/weapon. At least for Dallas, that's the way things are.

I cannot fault the argument that as an older player, he will be close to 30 when he is peaking, nor do I fault the argument that the position does not have sufficient value/importance to rank a 3rd rounder or earlier. There are other FB/H-Backs I like, but are obviously less proven, less productive.

What I will argue, is if Casey is rated higher than any of the remaining safeties, it would be a foolish to reach for that position. Reaching for a need is what got Jerry and the Cowboys in trouble in the late 90's. Drafting backups as well. Jerry and Stephen have recognized this and now draft towards BPA and fit. Drafting playmakers who are also leader/high character guys would be the best "mistake" the Cowboys could make.

Owens is gone. Roy Williams is unproven. Witten & the RBs will surely be the target of opposing D's. It would be nice to have another weapon for Romo, who is also a clear upgrade to Deon Anderson, in every way.

It is the rare team who has a playmaker at EVERY offensive skill position. Who do you scheme against? That is a nice problem to bring against opposing teams next season.

BAT

03-26-2009, 10:57 PM

Like I said, he may be a 2nd or 3rd round pick for some one but let that team have him that early. WAY to many depth issues on this team to be taking a 3rd TE/emergency QB (When you have 2 on the roster) or spot duty FB because he can't hold up playing it full time and we don't deploy a FB enough to justify it.

Your philosophy is to protect your depth, mine isn't. I will always take the playmaker, regardless of position.

Playmakers do not just fall out of the sky. If he is there, I take him. Even if the Cowboys do not take him, I just hope they do not reach for a player, just b/c it is a position of need. Especially if the need is for depth. Both Jerry and Stephen have said that drafting backups with the first 3 picks is no longer a viable strategy. They now draft players in those first 3 rounds to push a starter, preferrably one who has shown a propensity for playmaking. I, for one, am glad.

SDogo

03-27-2009, 05:44 AM

Your philosophy is to protect your depth, mine isn't. I will always take the playmaker, regardless of position.

Playmakers do not just fall out of the sky. If he is there, I take him. Even if the Cowboys do not take him, I just hope they do not reach for a player, just b/c it is a position of need. Especially if the need is for depth. Both Jerry and Stephen have said that drafting backups with the first 3 picks is no longer a viable strategy. They now draft players in those first 3 rounds to push a starter, preferrably one who has shown a propensity for playmaking. I, for one, am glad.

Problem is there is not a starter on this team he could push and at his given position he would be pushing a 2nd string TE he could not beat.

Woods

03-27-2009, 06:20 AM

I cannot fault the argument that as an older player, he will be close to 30 when he is peaking, nor do I fault the argument that the position does not have sufficient value/importance to rank a 3rd rounder or earlier. There are other FB/H-Backs I like, but are obviously less proven, less productive.

What I will argue, is if Casey is rated higher than any of the remaining safeties, it would be a foolish to reach for that position. Reaching for a need is what got Jerry and the Cowboys in trouble in the late 90's. Drafting backups as well. Jerry and Stephen have recognized this and now draft towards BPA and fit. Drafting playmakers who are also leader/high character guys would be the best "mistake" the Cowboys could make.

Owens is gone. Roy Williams is unproven. Witten & the RBs will surely be the target of opposing D's. It would be nice to have another weapon for Romo, who is also a clear upgrade to Deon Anderson, in every way.

It is the rare team who has a playmaker at EVERY offensive skill position. Who do you scheme against? That is a nice problem to bring against opposing teams next season.

I tend to agree with you.

If an equivalent Safety or LB is there, take the greater need position. Or trade down, if possible.

Just don't reach for a Safety or LB because we need one.

As for impact from a FB position (or H-Back), Moose is a good example. He was a 2nd round pick, if I remember correctly, even though he played FB.

I think a guy like Carey in the 3rd could be very good value. And he could be a similar weapon as Cooley, IMO. Also, He could line up as FB, WR, TE, etc.

I'm not saying this is a need position. All I'm saying if he's your clear top guy in that round, and you can't trade down, take him rather than reaching.

SDogo

03-27-2009, 06:55 AM

I tend to agree with you.

If an equivalent Safety or LB is there, take the greater need position. Or trade down, if possible.

Just don't reach for a Safety or LB because we need one.

As for impact from a FB position (or H-Back), Moose is a good example. He was a 2nd round pick, if I remember correctly, even though he played FB.

I think a guy like Carey in the 3rd could be very good value. And he could be a similar weapon as Cooley, IMO. Also, He could line up as FB, WR, TE, etc.

I'm not saying this is a need position. All I'm saying if he's your clear top guy in that round, and you can't trade down, take him rather than reaching.

When Moose was drafted we had no FB and a offense that utilized the position.

Again, I'm not sure where the idea that Casey has the agility or speed to line up at WR. His latest 40 time only proves that and even at Rice against top notch compition he struggled to get separation. He would get chewed up in the NFL by DB's and struggle against most LB's that he would see playing TE.

We do not need to reach for a S or LB but if we take Casey in the 2nd or 3rd we would be reaching for a position of non need. There will be several OL, WR, DL, DB's or even RB and QB's that will rank higher that I would rather take over Casey and RB is the only position we don't have a need for s starter or for depth.

My problem with Casey is he does not have a true position, does not have the athletic ability to set himself apart in the NFL, has only 2 years off college football expierence at a "small" school, has not faced the level of compition you like to see, is going to be 25 years old in September, played in a spread attack at Rice which inflated his numbers, he has almost zero expierence lining up at TE which is what he is projected to play in the NFL and he is not a great blocker.

I don't doubt the guys toughness or his high character and I don't doubt he could be a solid player in the right system for the right team. If this discussion was about what we though of Casey in the NFL I would say he is a high risk/reward project for some team that can afford to develop him although because of his age has limited upside but this discussion is about Casey and if he's the right pick for Dallas and it's just not a match that makes any sense.

Woods

03-27-2009, 07:58 AM

When Moose was drafted we had no FB and a offense that utilized the position.

Again, I'm not sure where the idea that Casey has the agility or speed to line up at WR. His latest 40 time only proves that and even at Rice against top notch compition he struggled to get separation. He would get chewed up in the NFL by DB's and struggle against most LB's that he would see playing TE.

We do not need to reach for a S or LB but if we take Casey in the 2nd or 3rd we would be reaching for a position of non need. There will be several OL, WR, DL, DB's or even RB and QB's that will rank higher that I would rather take over Casey and RB is the only position we don't have a need for s starter or for depth.
My problem with Casey is he does not have a true position, does not have the athletic ability to set himself apart in the NFL, has only 2 years off college football expierence at a "small" school, has not faced the level of compition you like to see, is going to be 25 years old in September, played in a spread attack at Rice which inflated his numbers, he has almost zero expierence lining up at TE which is what he is projected to play in the NFL and he is not a great blocker.

I don't doubt the guys toughness or his high character and I don't doubt he could be a solid player in the right system for the right team. If this discussion was about what we though of Casey in the NFL I would say he is a high risk/reward project for some team that can afford to develop him although because of his age has limited upside but this discussion is about Casey and if he's the right pick for Dallas and it's just not a match that makes any sense.

OK, I better understand your opinion with what I've bolded in your quote.

If you think Casey is a reach in the 2nd or 3rd round, then I completely understand your position.

cowboyjoe

03-27-2009, 11:55 AM

Casey throws in another wrinkle

Versatile back shows off arm to NFL scouts
By MEGAN MANFULL Copyright 2009 Houston Chronicle
March 26, 2009, 11:41PM
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NFL scouts time quarterback Chase Clement as he participates in a drill during Rice’s pro day at Rice Stadium on Thursday.

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AP | USA Today Top 25 | BCS Rice football coach David Bailiff watched closely as James Casey threw passes during the team’s pro day Thursday.

With a total of 35 NFL scouts littering the field at Rice Stadium, Casey launched one pass after another toward his targets downfield. It was Casey’s idea to throw, showcasing yet another of his talents. And scouts kept a watchful eye, realizing just why Bailiff had hoped Casey would return to Rice for one more season and become the Owls’ starting quarterback.

“He threw the ball pretty well,” said C.O. Brocato, Tennessee Titans national coordinator of college scouting. “He threw the long ball down the road. That isn’t any problem.

“I thought he was just what he was. Runs good routes, catches the ball, nothing fancy. Just plays football. And that’s what I like — football players.”

It was the first time scouts were able to see Casey throw, and it was the highlight of a pro day in which 28 NFL teams sent scouts. Three other Owls — Jarett Dillard, Chase Clement and Brian Raines — also participated. UH will hold its pro day for NFL scouts today.

Casey, who is slated to be drafted as an H-back or tight end, was aggressive in his pro day — asking to throw some passes and even running the 40-yard dash again. He recorded a faster 40 time on some stopwatches than he had at the NFL scouting combine in February, and his strong arm and accuracy also interested those watching.

Afterward, Casey admitted it was difficult to walk away from Rice knowing he could have been the quarterback next season.

Age factors into decision
“I told the team what made the decision the hardest was that I would have liked to come back and play quarterback,” said Casey, who was a quarterback in high school. “ But my age (24) being a big deal and being married, I just thought it was best to come out now.”

Bailiff looks forward to seeing where Casey lands and just how his new team utilizes his many talents. The third-year coach would have liked him at quarterback, though. He has been impressed with Casey’s arm since he first saw him throw two years ago after a spring practice.

“I’d never seen anyone throw the football like he was throwing the football,” Bailiff said. “I mean, in my life and at NFL training camps, I’d never seen anything like it.”

That’s why Bailiff immediately started having Casey attend meetings with the quarterbacks, despite the fact Casey was practicing at defensive end at the time. Bailiff had Casey continue meeting with the quarterbacks every day last season in hopes of having him take over for Clement next season.

While Casey won’t get that opportunity at Rice , he does hope an NFL team takes a chance on him and possibly lets him throw the ball once in a while.

Second-round candidate
“I was really hoping to go out and show my versatility and be able to go out and do some throwing,” said Casey, who is projected to be a second-round draftee. “A lot of teams probably didn’t care for it, because they don’t run the wildcat stuff. But maybe there were some teams who were excited to see it, and maybe they envision being able to try me out at it and use me there.”

megan.manfull@chron.com

Woods

03-27-2009, 12:04 PM

Second-round candidate
“I was really hoping to go out and show my versatility and be able to go out and do some throwing,” said Casey, who is projected to be a second-round draftee. “A lot of teams probably didn’t care for it, because they don’t run the wildcat stuff. But maybe there were some teams who were excited to see it, and maybe they envision being able to try me out at it and use me there.”

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Another wildcat candidate? :)

He does seems like an excellent football player. Seems like he can do it all at various positions.

Anyway, it will be interesting to see how he fares in the NFL.

SDogo

03-27-2009, 08:06 PM

OK, I better understand your opinion with what I've bolded in your quote.

If you think Casey is a reach in the 2nd or 3rd round, then I completely understand your position.

Yeah, I'm not sure where the opinion came that I felt we had to draft a S or LB. I kind of figured out what was going on after reading all the posts again.

Also don't get me wrong, if Casey is sitting there in the 4th I would hope Dallas would jump all over him. Unless some guys really started to slide that would be great value for Dallas.

Woods

04-03-2009, 01:50 PM

Guys, I think Dallas really likes this guy . . . .

per Mosley

If you're trying to determine who the Cowboys will select at No. 51, I'd memorize the names on this list from Todd Archer. And the tight end from Rice, James Casey, is a guy the Cowboys' personnel department loves. It's just that the team's sort of stacked at that position right now.

RS12

04-03-2009, 02:37 PM

Woods

04-03-2009, 02:42 PM

Again Charean Williams said the three guys Jerry likes with wild cat possibilities are Pat White, McGee, and Casey all FWIW. I just hope if they take Casey early he does not turn into Eric Bjornsen the rerun. Another guy with no true position who was gonna be the next Novacek.

I'm increasingly thinking we will take either an OL (likely OC/OG) or LB in Round 2.

If Casey falls to Round 3, it wouldn't surprise me if the staff want Casey.

dmoore

04-03-2009, 03:59 PM

Why would we take a guy just to play in the wildcat? Just because some teams run it doesn't mean everybody needs to. If it's that big a deal, but Crayton under center. Casey would be a wasted pick, even in round 3. Nothing against him, but we just have absolutely no need for his services.

SDogo

04-03-2009, 05:44 PM

silverbear

04-03-2009, 11:24 PM

IMO, Casey is a very intriguing prospect.

I don't see him as a typical in-line TE because he doesn't have the necessary size.

However, I'm wondering if he could play H-Back/FB?

He does have decent size to play that role, and I'd guess he could always put on another 10 lbs or so, if necessary.

I thought he could create multiple mis-matches against defenses for us.

We could go with 1 TE (Witten) and play him at FB, or split him wide at WR on occasion, or go with a 3 TE set and pass or run out of it.

I think he could offer a LOT more versatility than Cricket, for example.

From what I've read, he can block in space as well.

Also, he has no character issues and is serious about the game.

Casey is a brilliant talent that the Cowboys have reportedly fallen in love with, but I don't see him as a good fit in Dallas...

The reason for that can be summed up in two words-- Jason Witten... Casey has Witten-esque abilities as a receiving TE, but the Boys already have one of those... it would be hard for them to properly utilize two of them...

Still, you have to love his versatility, he can line up in the slot, he can run the ball, he can even throw it... with his strong arm, he'd be a fascinating candidate to run the Wildcat offense...

Casey will be a second or third rounder, and as long as the Boys have Jason, I can't justify them going for a TE that early (and Casey will never offer much as a blocker, certainly not what Witten does)...

But for a team that doesn't have a Pro Bowl caliber TE, James would offer 75-80 catch a season potential...

silverbear

04-03-2009, 11:25 PM

The guy is not a lead blocker and Curtis was never resigned. Hannah is our 3rd string TE now.

Which means the Boys could use either a lead blocking FB, or a pure blocking TE...

SDogo

04-04-2009, 06:40 AM

Which means the Boys could use either a lead blocking FB, or a pure blocking TE...

I agree and Casey offers neither. Third TE yes but you won't get much as a blocker.

dbair1967

04-04-2009, 06:58 AM

BAT

04-05-2009, 12:37 AM

Casey is a brilliant talent that the Cowboys have reportedly fallen in love with, but I don't see him as a good fit in Dallas...

The reason for that can be summed up in two words-- Jason Witten...

Casey will be a second or third rounder, and as long as the Boys have Jason, I can't justify them going for a TE that early (and Casey will never offer much as a blocker, certainly not what Witten does)...

And yet the Cowboys have drafted more than one that early (2nd rounders) with Witten on the roster. Not saying they will do so again, but there is certainly precedent. Besides, the poster was discussing a hybrid position H-Back/FB, not necessarily drafting Casey as a pure TE.

Cowboys also drafted Moose Johnston in the 2nd or 3rd if I recall.

SDogo

04-05-2009, 05:57 AM

And yet the Cowboys have drafted more than one that early (2nd rounders) with Witten on the roster. Not saying they will do so again, but there is certainly precedent. Besides, the poster was discussing a hybrid position H-Back/FB, not necessarily drafting Casey as a pure TE.

Cowboys also drafted Moose Johnston in the 2nd or 3rd if I recall.

Yeah, the 2nd round of the 89' draft. You remember that team right? At the moment he was drafted he became one of our most talented ball carriers and athletic weapons.

Big difference between now and then.

dbair1967

04-05-2009, 09:34 AM

[QUOTE]And yet the Cowboys have drafted more than one that early (2nd rounders) with Witten on the roster. Not saying they will do so again, but there is certainly precedent. Besides, the poster was discussing a hybrid position H-Back/FB, not necessarily drafting Casey as a pure TE.

Yeah, we drafted him there for two reasons. 1, we run alot of 2 TE sets and needed a solid #2, and 2, he was probably the highest rated player on the board when we took him. Adding another TE this early now makes no sense because they clearly have two outstanding ones already here.

Cowboys also drafted Moose Johnston in the 2nd or 3rd if I recall.

They drafted him in the 2nd because he was a freight train a a lead blocker and showed the versaility to also catch the ball. Casey couldnt block out my sister, much less NFL defensive players.

He just doesnt have a position here...he'd be a total wasted pick.

Bob Sacamano

04-05-2009, 09:54 AM

damnit dbair, learn how to quote

BAT

04-05-2009, 12:35 PM

Yeah, the 2nd round of the 89' draft. You remember that team right? At the moment he was drafted he became one of our most talented ball carriers and athletic weapons.

Big difference between now and then.

Yes, I remember that '88-89 team, what of it? The team was bad and rebuilding, but there were greater needs and still took a FB in the 2nd. That is still a high pick, even today. The following year, even w/a 2nd round FB on the roster, Jimmy brought in Alonzo Highsmith. Gotta improve, always, even if it is at positions many fans do not think highly of.

And Moose didn't become a fixture at starter until 1990 I believe, he took a few seasons to transition from a running FB to a blocking one.

BAT

04-05-2009, 12:55 PM

[QUOTE=BAT;2717010]

Yeah, we drafted him there for two reasons. 1, we run alot of 2 TE sets and needed a solid #2, and 2, he was probably the highest rated player on the board when we took him. Adding another TE this early now makes no sense because they clearly have two outstanding ones already here.

It makes sense if they draft Casey to play FB/H-Back/Wildcat QB. No one is proposing bringing Casey in to displace Witten or Bennett.

They drafted him in the 2nd because he was a freight train a a lead blocker and showed the versaility to also catch the ball. Casey couldnt block out my sister, much less NFL defensive players.

He just doesnt have a position here...he'd be a total wasted pick.

Moose was NOT known as a freight train lead blocker in college, he was a running FB. His transition from being a runner to a lead blocker was easier b/c he was such a physical runner, EXACTLY what Casey is known for as well. Casey is not just a great receiver, he is a physical runner (as a RB and as a receiver after the catch).

And if Casey is such a wasted pick, why are the Cowboys even considering him? They surely know that he is projected to go in the 2nd-3rd round range. I think he falls to the 3rd, even 4th, myself.

Woods

04-05-2009, 01:48 PM

[QUOTE=dbair1967;2717174]

Moose was NOT known as a freight train lead blocker in college, he was a running FB. His transition from being a runner to a lead blocker was easier b/c he was such a physical runner, EXACTLY what Casey is known for as well. Casey is not just a great receiver, he is a physical runner (as a RB and as a receiver after the catch).

And if Casey is such a wasted pick, why are the Cowboys even considering him? They surely know that he is projected to go in the 2nd-3rd round range. I think he falls to the 3rd, even 4th, myself.

BAT,

Clearly the Cowboys are interested in this guy. I doubt we take him in the 2nd, but it wouldn't shock me if we take this guy in the 3rd, or if he falls to the 4th.

And I don't see him as a replacement for Bennett or Witten. But rather an H-Back type who adds a different dimension to the team.

The main problem the Cowboys have is that they need 2 LBs (ILB and OLB), a DT, a Safety (or two), etc.

I think so much depends on who slips to Round 3. For example, if Sidbury is there at 69, I think the Cowboys would have a tough time passing him up. (Though I think Sidbury will be gone before 69.)

Then there are players like D Scott. Do the Cowboys view him as someone they take at 69, or more of a bottom of the 3rd type?

Anyway, I DO think the Cowboys consider Casey at 69 depending on who else is there.

SDogo

04-05-2009, 02:43 PM

Yes, I remember that '88-89 team, what of it? The team was bad and rebuilding, but there were greater needs and still took a FB in the 2nd. That is still a high pick, even today. The following year, even w/a 2nd round FB on the roster, Jimmy brought in Alonzo Highsmith. Gotta improve, always, even if it is at positions many fans do not think highly of.

And Moose didn't become a fixture at starter until 1990 I believe, he took a few seasons to transition from a running FB to a blocking one.

It was rebuilding with a head coach who had a run first philosophy, no talent, no OL.

These are two different teams with two different philosophies.

By the way Coleman was a RB, I'm not sure what he has to do with anything. We already had Agee as a FB when we drafted moose. When Coleman was brought in we just drafted Emmitt. We had no idea what we had at that time.

SDogo

04-05-2009, 02:47 PM

[quote=dbair1967;2717174]

Moose was NOT known as a freight train lead blocker in college, he was a running FB. His transition from being a runner to a lead blocker was easier b/c he was such a physical runner, EXACTLY what Casey is known for as well. Casey is not just a great receiver, he is a physical runner (as a RB and as a receiver after the catch).

And if Casey is such a wasted pick, why are the Cowboys even considering him? They surely know that he is projected to go in the 2nd-3rd round range. I think he falls to the 3rd, even 4th, myself.

You gotta make up your mind. One moment your saying he is a finesse guy who makes people miss and the next your talking about him like he is Earl Campbell.

AS far as the Cowboys being interested. Yes, they are doing their job. He is a player that could fall anywhere from the 2nd to 4th round. They need to look at him.

Do you think because they have not met with Aaron Curry they are not interested? You can't read every thing into what you hear. It gives us the fans some thing to talk about but at some point you need to put 2 and 2 together for yourself.

Bob Sacamano

04-05-2009, 02:51 PM

NFLDS says Casey is Wes Welker meets Dallas Clark, says he needs to be an H-back or in the slot, not a TE because he's not that big

SDogo

04-05-2009, 02:58 PM

NFLDS says Casey is Wes Welker meets Dallas Clark, says he needs to be an H-back or in the slot, not a TE because he's not that big

I think that's been established. He's not big enough to be a true TE, you have to keep off the interior line and out of traffic meaning either you split him out wide or spot duty at H-Back.

If you want a 4.6 guy split out wide that's on you but to me that leaves H-Back that don't require to block meaning you can get rid of Cricket that has been mentioned so that defeats that purpose so now your either going to carry only 2 TE's or make on of the three RB's inactive or I guess you can go think at WR, OL, LB, DB or DL..........

In some offenses this not an issue but were talking about the Cowboys.

Woods

04-05-2009, 02:58 PM

NFLDS says Casey is Wes Welker meets Dallas Clark, says he needs to be an H-back or in the slot, not a TE because he's not that big

Yes, that's what we are talking about, a H-back type role, slot role. He's too small to be a TE.

Bob Sacamano

04-05-2009, 03:10 PM

just wanted to point out how awesome Casey is

SDogo

04-05-2009, 03:10 PM

just wanted to point out how awesome Casey is

point taken

ddh33

04-05-2009, 08:56 PM

If he's a weapon that you think can help your team and your QB, and you think he's the best player on your board, you take the guy.

This is someone who can help your team. He can play a little TE, a little FB, a little WR, and even a little QB just for fun.

I can't really imagine him being the 51st player in this draft, but I'd be interested in the third.

SDogo

04-05-2009, 09:19 PM

BAT

04-06-2009, 03:14 PM

[quote=BAT;2717355]

You gotta make up your mind. One moment your saying he is a finesse guy who makes people miss and the next your talking about him like he is Earl Campbell.

AS far as the Cowboys being interested. Yes, they are doing their job. He is a player that could fall anywhere from the 2nd to 4th round. They need to look at him.

Do you think because they have not met with Aaron Curry they are not interested? You can't read every thing into what you hear. It gives us the fans some thing to talk about but at some point you need to put 2 and 2 together for yourself.

You must be thinking of someone else. I never said he was a finesse runner. He is 250 lbs, and he has always run through tacklers, not around them.

Maybe you are thinking about his WR-like catching ability.

In any event, I also like Marcus Mailei and Marquez Branson for the same roles. Neither are as good as Casey, but both bring elements that would upgrade the position (FB & ST) w/out overdrafting (7th-UDFA).

LOL. But good to see you come around, I would also take him if he fell to the 4th, amazing value there.

dbair1967

04-06-2009, 04:37 PM

dbair1967

04-06-2009, 04:38 PM

damnit dbair, learn how to quote

:laugh2:

dbair1967

04-06-2009, 04:40 PM

just wanted to point out how awesome Casey is

Just imagine how awesome an offense with Tebow at QB and Casey at every other position would be.

They would probably ban that team from the NFL. It would score 10 tds a week easily.

Bob Sacamano

04-06-2009, 05:06 PM

Just imagine how awesome an offense with Tebow at QB and Casey at every other position would be.

They would probably ban that team from the NFL. It would score 10 tds a week easily.

:bow: then we could ressurerect the wish-bone

that would be bad ***

Bob Sacamano

04-06-2009, 05:49 PM

Casey also sextuplets as a deep-snapper

I don't care how we do it, but I want him on the Cowboys

dbair1967

04-06-2009, 06:53 PM

Casey also sextuplets as a deep-snapper

I don't care how we do it, but I want him on the Cowboys

I heard he could also be a 15 sack a yr guy as a spot OLB

BAT

04-06-2009, 07:06 PM

I heard he could also be a 15 sack a yr guy as a spot OLB

He started out as a LB at Rice! Fo real.

Bob Sacamano

04-06-2009, 07:07 PM

I heard he could also be a 15 sack a yr guy as a spot OLB

I heard Tim Tebow held his hand growing up

DaBoys4Life

04-06-2009, 07:11 PM

He could play QB he did it in HS and at Rice a little bit Wild Cat with James Casey FTW!

BAT

04-06-2009, 07:32 PM

[QUOTE=BAT;2717355]

You need to go back and read scouting reports on him then, because he was highly regarded for his blocking skills.

I don't need to, I actually watched a few of his games, some live. I was there when the Orange went undefeated in the regular season by beating VT, 32-30. Johnston ran for over a hundred yards, in a SINGLE half.

Johnston is ranked 12th ALL TIME as a rusher in Syracuse history. Nothing to sneeze at when the guys in front of him include Jim Brown, Ernie Davis, Larry Csonka, Joe Morris, etc.

http://www.rankopedia.com/ZoneID=3/4658/Greatest-Rusher-in-Syracuse-Football-History/Step1/15439.htm

Johnston played closer to a true FB in '89 and while he was a good blocker, Syracuse just did not use him like that very much, especially in their fancy pitch option game that they ran. Johnston was revered, at the college level, for his tough running style moreso than his blocking.

Woods

04-22-2009, 03:18 AM

Time to *bump* up the James Casey thread.

I think he's a real possibility.

He offers a lot more from the FB position than Cricket.

BAT

04-22-2009, 04:31 AM

Macnalty

04-22-2009, 06:19 AM

I like Casey but still not sure if his unique skill set is a real asset to the cowboys, him seems like the swiss army knife of draft picks. I just hope he can master one particular position, and that is the rub, what is his best role? This may say more about what is available to us picking so late in the second round than the talent of Casey. I personally would rather have McGee for the 3rd QB, a real wide receiver(tall and fast if possible starting to come around on Varden), and good LB from this draft(no clear consensus). The CB/Safety/OL/DT positions are weak after the first 25 players according to the media snoops so I think those should be our reaches in the later rounds. I hope we still pick best player available at the time no matter the need.
This offense we have is still viable it is not an old glue horse waiting out its life, a nightmare to defense if we get on track and pure pleasure for a fan when hitting on all cylinders. This season is up to the coaching, we have all the talent needed, rookies will be hard pressed to penetrate the starting lineup in my opinion. I have my fingers crossed for Garrett and Wade and will give them the benefit until the writing starts appearing on the wall. Go Cowboys

Woods, you know what is the amazing part? Cowboys have needs at QB (3rd string & wildcat), slot receiver and FB. In any other draft that would require 3, likely FOUR, picks/players to fulfill those needs.

Drafting Casey covers every single one of those positions. That's ONE guy to fill 4 needs. Math is simple. I am sure the shrewd business man Jerry Jones sees the bargain here.

Woods

04-22-2009, 06:31 AM

Woods, you know what is the amazing part? Cowboys have needs at QB (3rd string & wildcat), slot receiver and FB. In any other draft that would require 3, likely FOUR, picks/players to fulfill those needs.

Drafting Casey covers every single one of those positions. That's ONE guy to fill 4 needs. Math is simple. I am sure the shrewd business man Jerry Jones sees the bargain here.

Hey, I know he played some defense as well at Rice.

He can probably play Safety too.

Our draft is done. :laugh1:

Not a serious note, I think that Casey can realistically play H-Back, FB, play the slot on occasion, and play some wildcat, and some WR even.

If we're going this route, I prefer Casey to P White, because I think the learning curve for Casey is a lot faster.

Woods

04-22-2009, 06:40 AM

Anyway, if we draft him, it will be fun to look at all the previous responses on Casey. It makes this time of the year a lot of fun.

(I'm just worried we may taking Pat White.)

silverbear

04-22-2009, 08:13 AM

This thread isn't about Johnson. However, I'd rather have Dallas pick a safety they think highly of in the 2nd or 3rd round than waste a high pick on Casey. No knock on his ability, but he'd be a complete waste of a pick.

Lemme guess-- last year you thought that Bennett was a "complete waste of a pick" too... after all, we already had Witten, right??

All you've proven with this post is that you lack imagination... I think of Casey on this team, playing FB, and I get visions of Roy at WR, Austin stretching the field, Crayton working underneath, Witten being Witten, Bennett offering a threat as the 2nd TE, Felix or Casey swinging out of the backfield...

And that's not even factoring in Casey's potential as a Wildcat QB, thus making things even more problematic for opposing defensive coordinators... or how happy we'd all be if, God forbid, Witten were to get hurt... we'd be able to move Casey to TE, and have him and Bennett still on the field...

What have you got against a diversified passing attack, anyway??

silverbear

04-22-2009, 08:16 AM

I have a strong feeling none of the *experts* would think he's worth a pick in the first 3 rounds for Dallas.

Did you miss the part where the COWBOYS' "experts" are sending a contingent down to work Casey out??

I'm pretty sure they know how he grades in this draft, so if they're sniffing around that strong, that suggests that no matter what YOU think, THEY think he'd be worth an early pick...

And when push comes to shove, the COWBOYS' "experts" have the only opinion that really counts...

There's lots of players I like that have no chance of being Cowboys simply because they don't fit in with the direction this team is going to go in the draft.

At this point, I have serious doubts that you're really clued in as to what direction this team is going to go in the draft...

silverbear

04-22-2009, 08:20 AM

The TE's that did or were in the top 5, there are a dozen of them with in reach of the top spot, D2 TE's that put up better numbers and have better measurables not to mention 4 years younger.

Like I said, he may be a 2nd or 3rd round pick for some one but let that team have him that early. WAY to many depth issues on this team to be taking a 3rd TE/emergency QB (When you have 2 on the roster) or spot duty FB because he can't hold up playing it full time and we don't deploy a FB enough to justify it.

If the Boys were to draft Casey, you'd see them use a FB a lot more often... if you think they'd spend an early pick on him and not use him, well, I'll be kind here, and say I find that laughable...

Really, it's quite ridiculous of you (and others in this thread) to assert this strongly that the Boys won't draft Casey, when they're showing so much interest in him... if that was true, why send that contingent to work him out, just a coupla days before the draft...

To me, that's an indicator of STRONG interest... which means that you (and others in this thread) are willfully ignoring the signals the Boys are sending...

silverbear

04-22-2009, 08:21 AM

Your philosophy is to protect your depth, mine isn't. I will always take the playmaker, regardless of position.

Jimmy Johnson always said that... but what the heck does HE know??

Rush 2112

04-22-2009, 08:27 AM

If we were sending a contingent to work him out would it be splattered all over the web?

silverbear

04-22-2009, 08:30 AM

silverbear

04-22-2009, 08:33 AM

Casey throws in another wrinkle

Joe, buddy, I don't mean to give you a hard time, but for the love of God, when you paste an article like this, could you PLEASE delete all the filler crap?? It only takes a second, you just drag your mouse over the section you don't want to keep, so that the entire section is highlighted, then hit the backspace key...

There was more filler garbage than article here, man...

silverbear

04-22-2009, 08:35 AM

Yeah, I'm not sure where the opinion came that I felt we had to draft a S or LB. I kind of figured out what was going on after reading all the posts again.

Also don't get me wrong, if Casey is sitting there in the 4th I would hope Dallas would jump all over him. Unless some guys really started to slide that would be great value for Dallas.

I wouldn't draft Casey in the second, but if he's still there at pick 69, I'd have his card up to the podium in about 3 seconds...

silverbear

04-22-2009, 08:37 AM

Why would we take a guy just to play in the wildcat?

Now you're just being willfully obtuse, hoss... we wouldn't draft Casey "just to play in the wildcat", that would be something he did OCCASIONALLY... we'd be drafting him to play fullback, sometimes slide into the slot as a receiver, then and only then to play the Wildcat QB...

silverbear

04-22-2009, 08:39 AM

And yet the Cowboys have drafted more than one that early (2nd rounders) with Witten on the roster. Not saying they will do so again, but there is certainly precedent. Besides, the poster was discussing a hybrid position H-Back/FB, not necessarily drafting Casey as a pure TE.

Cowboys also drafted Moose Johnston in the 2nd or 3rd if I recall.

BAT, after thinking seriously about this, I have come around 180 degrees... I now think that in the 3rd round, drafting Casey would be a brilliant move...

silverbear

04-22-2009, 08:43 AM

If we were sending a contingent to work him out would it be splattered all over the web?

Mosley's got a big mouth, but unless you think he made it up, that's exactly what happened-- we sent a contingent and it got splattered all over the web...

cowboyjoe

04-22-2009, 09:04 AM

Joe, buddy, I don't mean to give you a hard time, but for the love of God, when you paste an article like this, could you PLEASE delete all the filler crap?? It only takes a second, you just drag your mouse over the section you don't want to keep, so that the entire section is highlighted, then hit the backspace key...

There was more filler garbage than article here, man...

sorry bear, i missed it buddy,

Rush 2112

04-22-2009, 09:06 AM

Mosley's got a big mouth, but unless you think he made it up, that's exactly what happened-- we sent a contingent and it got splattered all over the web...

I'm not saying it didn't happen.......I'm just saying it doesn't make sense that we would make it known to the whole world.

I actually like Casey a lot, but nothing in his background says FB.

The other issue is we already have a lot of mouths to feed on O.

Roy, MBIII, Felix, Choice, Bennet, Austin, Crayton.

BAT

04-22-2009, 11:36 AM

You know, I love McGee too. But let's be honest, the kid is raw as heck. He has little experience out of a pro set. Same as Casey. Yes, I think Casey can be just as good as the 3rd QB. He is bigger, better as a running QB, better out of the wildcat, and he has the stronger arm. McGee is tough & has great upside, but he has been injured a LOT. Casey is as healthy as a horse and his upside, never mind actual production, is HIGHER.

This kid has such character and work ethic that Jerry could ask him to mop the floors and he would do it. His intangibles are not just high, they are elite. Isn't that the Cowboys new philosophy? Just draft football players. :D

I like Casey but still not sure if his unique skill set is a real asset to the cowboys, him seems like the swiss army knife of draft picks. I just hope he can master one particular position, and that is the rub, what is his best role? This may say more about what is available to us picking so late in the second round than the talent of Casey. I personally would rather have McGee for the 3rd QB, a real wide receiver(tall and fast if possible starting to come around on Varden), and good LB from this draft(no clear consensus). The CB/Safety/OL/DT positions are weak after the first 25 players according to the media snoops so I think those should be our reaches in the later rounds. I hope we still pick best player available at the time no matter the need.
This offense we have is still viable it is not an old glue horse waiting out its life, a nightmare to defense if we get on track and pure pleasure for a fan when hitting on all cylinders. This season is up to the coaching, we have all the talent needed, rookies will be hard pressed to penetrate the starting lineup in my opinion. I have my fingers crossed for Garrett and Wade and will give them the benefit until the writing starts appearing on the wall. Go Cowboys

Woods

04-22-2009, 03:42 PM

You know, I love McGee too. But let's be honest, the kid is raw as heck. He has little experience out of a pro set. Same as Casey. Yes, I think Casey can be just as good as the 3rd QB. He is bigger, better as a running QB, better out of the wildcat, and he has the stronger arm. McGee is tough & has great upside, but he has been injured a LOT. Casey is as healthy as a horse and his upside, never mind actual production, is HIGHER.

This kid has such character and work ethic that Jerry could ask him to mop the floors and he would do it. His intangibles are not just high, they are elite. Isn't that the Cowboys new philosophy? Just draft football players. :D

Tom C said we're looking to draft football players this weekend, and IMO, Casey is just that, a football player.

And for those who say how will we get the ball to so many options . . . . well, that's a great problem to have.

And as for all of our options, last season Felix was hurt, Barber was hurt, Hurd was out, Stanback was in and out, Austin was in and out, Witten was injured but played through the pain, R Williams had a bad foot and couldn't even cut, etc., etc.

I mean, players get injured. You've got to be really lucky to have all of the starters healthy for a full season.

You draft playmakers when you get the chance. Worst case, it puts you in a great position to make a trade down the line as well.

jchap2k

04-22-2009, 03:48 PM

Post from DMN blog by Todd Archer

Checking out Rice's James Casey
2:37 PM Wed, Apr 22, 2009 | Permalink | Yahoo! Buzz
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As you know someone who used to occupy this space wrote yesterday the Cowboys will hold a private workout in Houston with Rice tight end James Casey, and I've been able to confirm such a meeting will take place.

As part of our draft series, I talked with Rice coach Dave Bailiff about his wide receiver, Jarrett Dillard, earlier this week. At the end of the conversation, I asked Bailiff about Casey and here's what he had to say:

"His upside, I'm not sure where his limit is. When we came in he was on the depth chart on defense. That first spring we only had four defensive linemen so we had to leave him there. I kept telling him after practices, 'I'm going to move you to offense,' but we couldn't do it then because we couldn't break a huddle without him. He would practice on defense and then after he would throw and catch as a receiver, meet with the quarterbacks. With about five games left in the '07 season he really started to make a difference offensively. He became somebody we relied on. Then this year if anyone did double Jarrett, we had James standing there in single coverage. They complemented each other well. He's the first here, last to leave type of guy. Very passionate about the game and not just playing it but his ability to influence the entire football team.

"James returned punts for us this year. That lets you know how athletic he is. I've never been around one like him. He was our backup deep snapper. He played quarterback, running back, tight end, wide out. Two years ago against Southern Miss all of our defensive ends were hurt and we asked him if he remembered any of the defense and he said, 'Give me a wrist band. I remember it all,' and he had a sack and a tackle for a loss. He was a triple major at Rice. Brilliant student."

Woods

04-22-2009, 03:53 PM

Bob Sacamano

04-22-2009, 03:55 PM

bring in Casey!

Chief

04-22-2009, 04:05 PM

Watching the clips in the other thread, he reminds me of a USFL back named Todd Fowler, whom Dallas got from the Houston Gamblers. He also resembles a young Todd Christensen, whom Dallas drafted and later ended up with the Raiders.

Woods

04-22-2009, 04:06 PM

Chief

04-22-2009, 04:08 PM

If we draft Casey and he has a career like Todd Christensen, we'll definitely be lucky!

Yep, Dallas drafted Christensen as a tight end after he played fullback at BYU, but he didn't want to switch and became a headache. He finally moved to tight end with the Raiders and the rest is history.

Bob Sacamano

04-22-2009, 04:10 PM

Yep, Dallas drafted Christensen as a tight end after he played fullback at BYU, but he didn't want to switch and became a headache. He finally moved to tight end with the Raiders and the rest is history.

then I guess Casey isn't Christensen then:p:

Chief

04-22-2009, 04:17 PM

then I guess Casey isn't Christensen then:p:

You got that right. :)

Of course, I'm looking at him athletically.

The intangible stuff puts him in Tim Tebow's class.

Well, almost.

Woods

04-22-2009, 04:23 PM

You got that right. :)

Of course, I'm looking at him athletically.

The intangible stuff puts him in Tim Tebow's class.

Well, almost.

Chief,

I have to say, it really seems that we're intent on drafting some wildcat type athlete. Whether it's Casey, or P White, or McGee . . . . and we've looked into other guys as well.

I guess JJ could be doing this all for show, but he's sure putting a lot of effort into it then.

It really seems we're going to be trying to draft one of these types of guys.

Chief

04-22-2009, 04:28 PM

Chief,

I have to say, it really seems that we're intent on drafting some wildcat type athlete. Whether it's Casey, or P White, or McGee . . . . and we've looked into other guys as well.

I guess JJ could be doing this all for show, but he's sure putting a lot of effort into it then.

It really seems we're going to be trying to draft one of these types of guys.

It seems that way.

With all the talk about getting another wide receiver, and the apparent search for a wildcat type, this doesn't bode well for Isaiah Stanback. I wonder if they've given up on him.

DaBoys4Life

04-22-2009, 04:31 PM

Casey is the man!!!!!!!!

Woods

04-22-2009, 04:39 PM

It seems that way.

With all the talk about getting another wide receiver, and the apparent search for a wildcat type, this doesn't bode well for Isaiah Stanback. I wonder if they've given up on him.

I remember watching a game last season, and one of the announcers said that the problem with Stanback's shoulder is that even with surgery, even with a harness, that it can pop out anytime.

But I'd guess that the last WR spot is going to be a fight between Stanback and possibly the guy on the PS and another draft pick.

One spot is clearly available due to TO's departure at WR.

And if it's Casey, he may replace Cricket. If it's Pat White, then Stanback could be in more trouble, IMO.

I think Stanback still has a shot, but his shoulder worries me.

silverbear

04-22-2009, 07:33 PM

sorry bear, i missed it buddy,

LOL... I ain't mad at ya, my eyes were just spinnin' in my skull as I tried to read that...

And without meaning to be condescending, I thought that maybe you didn't know how to delete the filler, how easy it is...

silverbear

04-22-2009, 07:36 PM

I'm not saying it didn't happen.......I'm just saying it doesn't make sense that we would make it known to the whole world.

Perhaps you've already seen where Todd Archer confirmed Mosley's report...

There are apparently some loose lips within the Cowboys organization, and Jerry probably ought to put a stop to it...

I actually like Casey a lot, but nothing in his background says FB.

Well, the Boys apparently see SOMETHING in his background that suggests to them he could play FB... and with the versatility he's already shown, I wouldn't bet against him being able to play MLB, if he decided he wanted to... :D

The other issue is we already have a lot of mouths to feed on O.

Roy, MBIII, Felix, Choice, Bennet, Austin, Crayton.

There's an issue I could live with...

BAT

04-22-2009, 07:41 PM

Well, the Boys apparently see SOMETHING in his background that suggests to them he could play FB... and with the versatility he's already shown, I wouldn't bet against him being able to play MLB, if he decided he wanted to... :D

I had to smile at the point in the story where they run out of pass rushers due to injury in the middle of the game and the coach asks Casey if he still remembered the defense, Casey tells the coach to give him a wrist band b/c he knows it. Then proceeds to go out and get a sack and tackle for loss.

:D Classic

Rush 2112

04-23-2009, 05:20 AM

Perhaps you've already seen where Todd Archer confirmed Mosley's report...

There are apparently some loose lips within the Cowboys organization, and Jerry probably ought to put a stop to it...

Well, the Boys apparently see SOMETHING in his background that suggests to them he could play FB... and with the versatility he's already shown, I wouldn't bet against him being able to play MLB, if he decided he wanted to... :D

There's an issue I could live with...

Sometimes smoke is just smoke.

I bet he never plays FB full time in the NFL.

Motion TE yes...............but FB never.

CATCH17

04-23-2009, 08:32 AM

bring in Casey!

Get it done Jerry!

I'll help clean up the tears on the zone Saturday if you do.

BAT

04-23-2009, 11:22 AM

Get it done Jerry!

I'll help clean up the tears on the zone Saturday if you do.

:laugh1: :p: :starspin