Obama - "We only have one President at a time."

[ABQCOWBOY]

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/first100days/2009/04/01/obama-team-tried-stop-israels-gaza-offensive-inauguration-report-says/


Obama Team Tried to Stop Israel's Gaza Offensive Before Inauguration, Report Says
A report in The New Yorker claims that Obama's transition team worked to persuade Israel to end its offensive in the Gaza Strip before Inauguration Day.


FOXNews.com
Wednesday, April 01, 2009

Despite Barack Obama's persistent pledges as president-elect that he would not meddle in foreign affairs while President Bush was in office, a new report in The New Yorker claims that his transition team worked to persuade Israel to end its offensive in the Gaza Strip before Inauguration Day.

The article also quoted a former intelligence official as saying former Vice President Dick Cheney started "getting messages from the Israelis about pressure from Obama" before Jan. 20.

In response, Cheney reportedly portrayed Obama as "pro-Palestinian" in conversations with the Israelis.

Cheney's then-adviser on national security disputed the story, saying an alleged conversation about the issue between Cheney and national security adviser-to-be Jim Jones "never, ever happened."

"It is a complete fabrication from beginning to end," former Cheney adviser John Hannah said in an e-mail to FOXNews.com.

But he did not dispute the specific claim that the Obama transition team was involving itself in Israeli affairs.

In the magazine article, Seymour Hersh reported that Obama's team worked to persuade Israel to stop bombing Gaza and withdraw its ground troops.

Such a move would seem to contradict the president-elect's public statements at the time.

Obama said in early January that he was "very concerned" about the loss of life in the region and would engage the issue as president, but until then was deferring to Bush in recognition that there is one president at a time. He was receiving briefings at the time from then-Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice, who was working to negotiate a cease-fire as one of her last acts in the post.

The White House did not return a request for comment on The New Yorker article.

Hersh said in a cable interview Monday that Cheney talked to Jones after hearing complaints about Obama's involvement from the Israelis.

In turn, Hersh said Jones talked to Obama about the best way to deal with the Israelis going forward.

Hannah disputed all the claims about Cheney's involvement.

"The statements that Mr. Hersh claims were made by Vice President Cheney during the Gaza crisis simply never happened. They are outright falsehoods, manufactured out of whole cloth by Mr. Hersh's anonymous sources," he said in the e-mail.

"Unfortunately, Mr. Hersh's sources have led him badly astray."

[cowboys#1]

lol foxnews lol

[trickblue]

lol foxnews lol

lol It's actually based on an article in The New Yorker lol

lol The New Yorker is known as a very left leaning publication lol

[vta]

lol It's actually based on an article in The New Yorker lol

lol The New Yorker is known as a very left leaning publication lol

:laugh1:

:spanking:

[Dallas]

lol foxnews lol


lol cowboys#1


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Drive-by lol


:spanking: Take your beating like a good little poster. AND YOU WILL LIKE IT !!

[Cajuncowboy]

What???? No freakin' Way! No Way Obama would lie about anything! You are a liar's liar to even think that The One would lie.

Dang you, Dang you all to Heck!


The nerve!




































:lmao:

Can't believe people bought into this guys jive.

[Joe Rod]

Go team Obama!

[ScipioCowboy]

lol It's actually based on an article in The New Yorker lol

lol The New Yorker is known as a very left leaning publication lol

lol denial lol

That was the quintessential smackdown, Trick!:)

[Bob Sacamano]

What???? No freakin' Way! No Way Obama would lie about anything! You are a liar's liar to even think that The One would lie.

Dang you, Dang you all to Heck!


The nerve!

:lmao:

Can't believe people bought into this guys jive.

it's that stupid grin

[SuspectCorner]

It wouldn't surprise me that members of the Obama transition team contacted Israeli officials urging that they peel off from the Palestine offensive before their position became absolutely untenable (which it ultimately is).

Bush was already a lame duck and a unilateral supporter of Israel from day one. And Obama was already fated to be up to his eyeballs from Inauguration Day as it was - largely thanks to the horrendous mismanagement of his predecessor. It'd almost be like stepping out of the path of an oncoming bus.

And why is it a stretch to believe that Cheney would undercut Obama's position to the Israeli's? This actually fits Cheney's MO to a "T". For anybody who's been paying attention these last eight years - it's much more of a stretch to believe Cheney DIDN'T do this. But don't take it from me. Let my pal Hans break it down for ya':

CVldccu5RmQ

[Cajuncowboy]

It wouldn't surprise me that members of the Obama transition team contacted Israeli officials urging that they peel off from the Palestine offensive before their position became absolutely untenable (which it ultimately is).

Bush was already a lame duck and a unilateral supporter of Israel from day one. And Obama was already fated to be up to his eyeballs from Inauguration Day as it was - largely thanks to the horrendous mismanagement of his predecessor. It'd almost be like stepping out of the path of an oncoming bus.

And why is it a stretch to believe that Cheney would undercut Obama's position to the Israeli's? This actually fits Cheney's MO to a "T". For anybody who's been paying attention these last eight years - it's much more of a stretch to believe Cheney DIDN'T do this. But don't take it from me. Let my pal Hans break it down for ya':


Waaaaaaaaaa! Cry me a river.

This is the same Hans Blix who said that Saddam wasn't giving him and his inspectors the the access they needed to determine if he had WMD or not.

Then got all ticked off when we went to remove him based on intel and HIS report.

Oh right, this was at the same time when Saddam was bribing YOU PAL and the UN. Yep, he's a great guy. :rolleyes:

[SuspectCorner]

Waaaaaaaaaa! Cry me a river.

This is the same Hans Blix who said that Saddam wasn't giving him and his inspectors the the access they needed to determine if he had WMD or not.

Then got all ticked off when we went to remove him based on intel and HIS report.

Oh right, this was at the same time when Saddam was bribing YOU PAL and the UN. Yep, he's a great guy. :rolleyes:

Cajun, with all due respect - where do you come up with the notion that Saddam was bribing Hans Blix? This is a new one to me.

And aren't you overlooking a not-so-minor detail in your recollections of Blix? He asserted that the WMD weren't there - despite his own initial gut feeling that they would be. And constant pressure from the US-UK to locate them.

So, were the grail of Iraq WMD ultimately uncovered and I just missed that day's news?

Oh, they weren't?!

Yes, that's right. They weren't.

[Cajuncowboy]

Cajun, with all due respect - where do you come up with the notion that Saddam was bribing Hans Blix? This is a new one to me.

And aren't you overlooking a not-so-minor detail in your recollections of Blix? He asserted that the WMD weren't there - despite his own initial gut feeling that they would be. And constant pressure from the US-UK to locate them.

So, were the grail of Iraq WMD ultimately uncovered and I just missed that day's news?

Oh, they weren't?!

Yes, that's right. They weren't.

Here ya go you one man Punch and Judy act...

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/3722270.stm

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/saddam-may-have-bribed-head-of-un-oilforfood-programme-560806.html

http://www.socialaffairsunit.org.uk/blog/archives/000171.php

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,134874,00.html

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/1473594/Saddam-bribed-politicians-around-world.html

Get the picture?

Click and read, click and read, click and read.

[SuspectCorner]

Here ya go you one man Punch and Judy act...

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/3722270.stm

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/saddam-may-have-bribed-head-of-un-oilforfood-programme-560806.html

http://www.socialaffairsunit.org.uk/blog/archives/000171.php

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,134874,00.html

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/1473594/Saddam-bribed-politicians-around-world.html

Get the picture?

Click and read, click and read, click and read.


Hans Blix had no role whatsoever in "Oil for Food" - that was Benon Sevan. Blix was the chief UN weapons inspector in Iraq. Two separate UN functions related only in that they both dealt with Iraq.

The UN was among many players tainted in Oil for Food. Even the US was implicated, with the Bush Administration knowingly looking the other way as countries like Turkey and Jordan circumvented the embargo.

http://www.cnn.com/2005/WORLD/meast/02/02/iraq.oil.smuggle/index.html

http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9505E7DB1531F937A15757C0A9639C8B 63

http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/A30725-2005Feb16?language=printer



Also, your first link relies heavily on the Duelfer report - now let's recall his findings:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A12115-2004Oct6.html

[Cajuncowboy]

Hans Blix had no role whatsoever in "Oil for Food" - that was Benon Sevan. Blix was the chief UN weapons inspector in Iraq. Two separate UN functions related only in that they both dealt with Iraq.

The UN was among many players tainted in Oil for Food. Even the US was implicated, with the Bush Administration knowingly looking the other way as countries like Turkey and Jordan circumvented the embargo.

http://www.cnn.com/2005/WORLD/meast/02/02/iraq.oil.smuggle/index.html

http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9505E7DB1531F937A15757C0A9639C8B 63

http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/A30725-2005Feb16?language=printer



Also, your first link relies heavily on the Duelfer report - now let's recall his findings:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A12115-2004Oct6.html

:lmao2:

So Blix had NO contact or no one else had influence over him?

This people is how Obama got elected.

Gullibility.

[Rogah]

lol It's actually based on an article in The New Yorker lol

lol The New Yorker is known as a very left leaning publication lol:lmao2: :lmao: :bow:

[ABQCOWBOY]

It wouldn't surprise me that members of the Obama transition team contacted Israeli officials urging that they peel off from the Palestine offensive before their position became absolutely untenable (which it ultimately is).

Bush was already a lame duck and a unilateral supporter of Israel from day one. And Obama was already fated to be up to his eyeballs from Inauguration Day as it was - largely thanks to the horrendous mismanagement of his predecessor. It'd almost be like stepping out of the path of an oncoming bus.

And why is it a stretch to believe that Cheney would undercut Obama's position to the Israeli's? This actually fits Cheney's MO to a "T". For anybody who's been paying attention these last eight years - it's much more of a stretch to believe Cheney DIDN'T do this. But don't take it from me. Let my pal Hans break it down for ya':

CVldccu5RmQ

I find it very interesting that the Left would deny the fact that the Obama Administration put pressure on the Government to pass Stimulus, to influence economic directions prior to his taking office in Jan., would lay it all at the feet of FP Bush, while at the same time look to this and say it is understandable.

Just another example of Double Standards.

[SuspectCorner]

:lmao2:

So Blix had NO contact or no one else had influence over him?

This people is how Obama got elected.

Gullibility.

We all have contacts. We're all subject to some spheres of influence. Will an actual point be forthcoming from you,cajun?

And now I'm being called out on the subject of gullibility - by a Bush apologist. I like it. This is fun. :)

[JBond]

lol It's actually based on an article in The New Yorker lol

lol The New Yorker is known as a very left leaning publication lol

:lmao2:

[ShiningStar]

Man people siding with Hans Blix, thats just tooo funny. The guy couldnt find WMD"s as they were being pulled out of the back of the warehouses. Couldnt find a missile in a missle silo and people want to side with this guy.

[heavyg]

Cajun, with all due respect - where do you come up with the notion that Saddam was bribing Hans Blix? This is a new one to me.

And aren't you overlooking a not-so-minor detail in your recollections of Blix? He asserted that the WMD weren't there - despite his own initial gut feeling that they would be. And constant pressure from the US-UK to locate them.

So, were the grail of Iraq WMD ultimately uncovered and I just missed that day's news?

Oh, they weren't?!

Yes, that's right. They weren't.


They weren't there because we sat on our butts negotiating with that idiot while he moved them out of the country. What do you think all those trucks were doing going in and out of there for 2-3 months before we finally went in?

[ShiningStar]

They weren't there because we sat on our butts negotiating with that idiot while he moved them out of the country. What do you think all those trucks were doing going in and out of there for 2-3 months before we finally went in?


Flowers!!! Dont you know they were in the flower business. tons and tons of flowers and nothing more.

[Cajuncowboy]

We all have contacts. We're all subject to some spheres of influence. Will an actual point be forthcoming from you,cajun?

And now I'm being called out on the subject of gullibility - by a Bush apologist. I like it. This is fun. :)

What good would a point be to you? You can't comprehend them anyway. If you don't get it then you are lost. Bush apologist? Sorry, just because I agree with most of his positions doesn't mean I'm an apologist. I have had my issues with him and have made them clear.

But your gullibility is thinking he wasn't influenced. But hey, in your own words, he's your "Pal".

I don't expect much from you.

[Cajuncowboy]

They weren't there because we sat on our butts negotiating with that idiot while he moved them out of the country. What do you think all those trucks were doing going in and out of there for 2-3 months before we finally went in?

It's this guys kind of stupidity that got us into this problem to start with.