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WoodysGirl
04-11-2009, 01:41 PM
Sat Apr 11, 8:42 am ET
MOGADISHU (AFP) – Somali pirates holding a US captain hostage warned on Saturday that using force to free him would end in "disaster," as they prepared to move him following a deadly French raid on a separate boat.

After French commandos stormed a yacht held by other pirates in a raid that left one hostage and two gunmen dead, pirate commander Abdi Garad told AFP the American captive would be moved from the lifeboat where he was being held.

Only four pirates have been guarding Captain Richard Phillips on the lifeboat, and transferring him to a larger ship could give them better defences as the US military seeks to free him.

"There are not any developments still on the standoff with the American officials," Garad said by phone from the northern Somali pirate lair of Eyl.

"We are planning to transfer the hostage on to one of the ships our friends are holding around Garacad area so that we can wait," he added, referring to an area along Somalia's coast, though he did not specify which ship.

US Navy forces have been pouring into the region amid the standoff over the American, who was captain of a Danish-operated container ship carrying international aid that pirates tried to take this week.

"I'm afraid this matter is likely to create disaster because it's taking too long and we are getting information that the Americans are planning rescue tricks like the French commandos did," Garad said.

The attacks on the French yacht and the aid ship have further highlighted the hijackings wreaking havoc on one of the world's busiest shipping lanes.

Phillips has been held since Wednesday, when four pirates hijacked the Maersk Alabama, which was carrying 5,000 tonnes of UN aid destined for African refugees. They are demanding a ransom for his release.

The abductors were overpowered by the unarmed American crew, but they bundled Phillips onto the lifeboat.

On Friday, Phillips jumped into the water and tried to swim towards the nearby US destroyer the USS Bainbridge, prompting the pirates to jump in and recapture him.

Somali elders and parents of pirates holding the American were seeking to free the American on Saturday "without any guns or ransom," according to Andrew Mwangura of the East African Seafarers Assistance Programme.

"They have already travelled from inland Galkayo to Garacad at the seashore and are ready to travel by boat towards the scene," he said in a statement.

But a spokesman for Somalia's hardline Islamist group Shebab backed the recent rash of pirate attacks, blaming the international community for depleting the country's marine resources and dumping their waste here.

"I believe that the pirates are not wrong to hijack the ships because there is no reason for the international ships to use Somalia's waters," Sheikh Muktar Robow told reporters in the south-central Somali city of Baidoa.

The separate French raid came six days after the yacht, the Tanit, was seized in the pirate-infested Gulf of Aden and the operation freed three adults and a three-year-old child.

Florent Lemacon, owner of the yacht and the child's father, was killed.

French Defence Minister Herve Morin said ON Saturday an autopsy and investigation would determine what happened and "we cannot rule out" that the shot that killed Lemacon came from French commandos.

"I believe that it was the best possible decision," Morin said on French radio of the raid. "We did everything to save the hostages' lives."

The four ex-hostages -- Lemacon's wife Chloe, their three-year-old son Colin and two other adults -- were due in Paris on Sunday aboard a French-chartered plane, Morin told AFP.

A French presidential spokesman said earlier that the Tanit had been heading toward the coast and the pirates' threats were "becoming more and more specific."

Somali pirates have defied an international naval presence in the region to carry out hijackings.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20090411/ts_afp/somaliapiracyshipping_20090411124317

zrinkill
04-11-2009, 02:21 PM
I can taste the fear in their words ... and so can the Seals.

iceberg
04-11-2009, 04:36 PM
I can taste the fear in their words ... and so can the Seals.

someone should have warned them not to mess with us.

Rampage
04-11-2009, 05:23 PM
modern day Pirates..... now that's a good paying job. where do I sign up?

sbark
04-11-2009, 05:31 PM
Our problem is the value we put on human life vrs. what the terrorists do.......it helps them fight a war on a Burger King budget......

Give General Motors a contract to build the high-tech version of the Cigar Boats that JFK captained in WWII.......

2 birds with 1 stone........

mmillman
04-11-2009, 07:46 PM
Why can't the seals swim under the boat and toss some type of knock out gas in the boat? Something like the Russians did in that church.

zrinkill
04-11-2009, 07:48 PM
Why can't the seals swim under the boat and toss some type of knock out gas in the boat? Something like the Russians did in that church.


The Seals are not even there ...... just ask Diaf.

Jon88
04-11-2009, 08:18 PM
Why can't the seals swim under the boat and toss some type of knock out gas in the boat? Something like the Russians did in that church.

That would be a good idea. You could also cut a hole in the bottom of it and everyone would have to get out.

Hostile
04-11-2009, 09:04 PM
I would park a submarine right underneath the lifeboat and surface it lifting the lifeboat right onto the deck of the sub.

irvin4evs
04-11-2009, 11:10 PM
I would park a submarine right underneath the lifeboat and surface it lifting the lifeboat right onto the deck of the sub.

And then they kill the hostage out of principle.

The covert knockout gas is the most viable thing I can see, assuming there isn't a way to snipe the whole pirate crew over a few seconds.

DIAF
04-12-2009, 08:31 AM
The Seals are not even there ...... just ask Diaf.

It's funny, but your little attempt at snark totally fails. The SEALs weren't there yet. They arrived on a ship sometime late last night.

I expect that they will be called into action in very short order if this thing drags on any longer.

MetalHead
04-12-2009, 10:57 AM
Our problem is the value we put on human life vrs. what the terrorists do.......it helps them fight a war on a Burger King budget......

Give General Motors a contract to build the high-tech version of the Cigar Boats that JFK captained in WWII.......

2 birds with 1 stone........

About time someone calls them by what they really are.

DIAF
04-12-2009, 11:43 AM
Not that it matters, but pirates aren't terrorists. They are common criminals, hostage takers, people that are in it for the money.

BrAinPaiNt
04-12-2009, 11:47 AM
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2252/1862544845_cd72887c04.jpg?v=1194229507

TheBeast
04-12-2009, 12:14 PM
About time someone calls them by what they really are.

Man you are one brainwashed citizen.

"Terrorists" haha

DIAF
04-12-2009, 12:48 PM
its over. 3 pirates dead, 4th in custody.
Captain rescued.

http://www.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/africa/04/12/somalia.pirates/index.html

Once SEALs got down there, it was over.

zrinkill
04-12-2009, 03:10 PM
Once SEALs got down there, it was over.

Some of us already new that.

MetalHead
04-12-2009, 03:39 PM
Man you are one brainwashed citizen.

"Terrorists" haha

No,I'm not...it's just that my eyes are open.
I've done my homework.

Vintage
04-12-2009, 03:47 PM
Kill their children!!!!!!!!!

That'll show 'em!!!!!!!!!!!!

WarC
04-12-2009, 03:50 PM
Nice.

You always knew it was going to end this way, though. In a shootout. Not only is it the American way, but damn - The French sent their commandos in, and you just KNEW there was no way we weren't gonna bloody some noses after that.

And you know what? It's good. Victory, baby! This is why the USA is the USA.

zrinkill
04-12-2009, 04:09 PM
Kill their children!!!!!!!!!

That'll show 'em!!!!!!!!!!!!

:confused:

Vintage
04-12-2009, 05:51 PM
:confused:


Mine was said to mock posts made the other day.