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ConcordCowboy
05-01-2009, 02:27 PM
Amid Swine Flu Outbreak, Racism goes Viral

Anti-immigrant hatred spreads on talk radio, Web sites


“No contact anywhere with an illegal alien!” conservative talk show host Michael Savage advised his U.S. listeners this week on how to avoid the swine flu. “And that starts in the restaurants" where he said, you “don’t know if they wipe their behinds with their hands!”

And Thursday, Boston talk radio host Jay Severin was suspended after calling Mexican immigrants "criminalians" during a discussion of swine flu and saying that emergency rooms had become "essentially condos for Mexicans."

That’s tepid compared to some of the xenophobic reactions spreading like an emerging virus across the Internet. “This disgusting blight is because MEXICANS ARE PIGS!” an anonymous poster ranted on the “prison planet” forum, part of radio host and columnist Alex Jones’ Web site.

There is even talk of conspiracy. Savage speculated that terrorists are using Mexican immigrants as walking germ warfare weapons. “It would be easy,” he said, “to bring an altered virus into Mexico, put it in the general population, and have them march across the border.”

As more than 140 cases of H1N1 virus, known as swine flu, have been confirmed across the United States — from San Diego to New York City — the growing public health concern has also exposed fear and hate.

Fear and blame are counterproductive and even dangerous in any disease outbreak because the more stigmatized any group feels, the more reluctant people in that group may be to seek medical care. That only helps propagate the disease.

The attempt to scapegoat Mexicans, immigrants and Hispanic Americans is no surprise to Latino rights groups, who are now mobilizing a countereffort.

‘Ignorant beyond the pale’

Angelica Salas, executive director of the Coalition for Humane Immigrant Rights of Los Angeles, called such comments “racist and ignorant beyond the pale … these so-called commentators shame themselves turning public health concerns into an immigrant bashing fest.”

“What we have seen is that the anti-immigrant groups are using this to shamelessly to promote their agenda,” said Liany Arroyo, director of the Institute for Hispanic Health at the National Council of La Raza.

While the war of words is mainly between the conservative commentariat and Latino advocacy groups, individual Mexican-Americas are beginning to worry.

“Our people are calling us and they are concerned,” said Florencia Velasco Fortner, chief executive officer of Dallas Consilio of Hispanic Organizations, an umbrella of affiliated service groups. “Even our staff members are starting to get a little discouraged. There was anti-immigrant sentiment prior to this and this adds fuel to the fire.”

The Consilio has mounted its own education campaign to teach Dallas-area Hispanic audiences proper disease prevention and hygiene techniques. Because many are uninsured and may avoid seeking medical care, the Consilio is also helping them find non-profit clinics and encouraging them to visit these immediately if they develop symptoms rather than waiting until they are severely ill.

As swine flu fears have spread, the backlash has also affected some Mexican restaurants’ business, possibly fueled by disparaging comments like those of Savage questioning the hygiene of workers.

Jennifer Pesqueira, whose family has owned and operated El Indio Mexican restaurants in San Diego since 1940, said her business has seen a 20 percent drop in business since the outbreak began.

Activist groups have advised their communities to be aware and on guard. “Board members put an alert out,” said Jan Hanvik, executive director of Clemente Soto Velez Cultural and Educational Center in New York. “It was a heads up, saying ‘pay attention.’ ”

Blaming ‘the other’
Fearmongering and blame are almost a natural part of infectious disease epidemics, experts say.

“This is a pattern we see again and again,” said Amy Fairchild, chair of sociomedical sciences at Columbia University's Mailman School of Public Health in New York City. “It’s ‘the other,’ the group not seen as part of the nation, the one who threatens it in some way that gets blamed for the disease.”

Often, a disease outbreak is an excuse to vent pre-existing prejudices. “It’s fear of people we do not know or who look different,” said Dr. Howard Markel, a medical historian at the University of Michigan and author of “When Germs Travel: Six Major Epidemics That Have Invaded America Since 1900 and the Fears They Have Unleashed.” “You take the fear of the unknown that already exists and then combine that with a real or perceived threat that is contagious disease and it’s explosive.”

During the medieval Black Plague, Europeans blamed Jews, saying they poisoned the wells. In an 1892 cholera pandemic, the U.S. blamed immigrant European Jews. In the flu of 1918, Markel said, “Italians blamed the Spanish. The Spanish blamed the Italians. For HIV it was gay men and Haitians.”

Americans “have a history of trying to keep ourselves ‘pure,’ ” Fairchild explained. “You saw it after the Civil War when slaves were denied citizenship, in the late 19th and early 20th centuries when we were alarmed over southern and eastern European immigrants. There were fears that they would pollute America’s germ plasm, make us a weak nation of imbeciles.”

Americans have time and again responded to emergencies by clamoring to shut the borders and pull up the bridges.

“I’ve blogged for years about the spread of contagious diseases from around the world into the U.S. as a result of uncontrolled immigration,” conservative columnist Michelle Malkin wrote on her Web site. “9/11 didn’t convince the open-borders zealots to put down their race cards and confront reality. Maybe the threat of their sons or daughters contracting a deadly virus spread from south of the border to their Manhattan prep schools will.” (The cluster of New York school students who first contracted H1N1 brought the virus back from Mexico. The school is in Queens.)

“People who do not really know anything are creating ideas that don’t really exist,” said Sergio Ornelas, owner of a bi-national publishing and advertising business in El Paso. “I am worried these kinds of articles and comments might create panic.”

Fighting racism with information
Blame-the-victim reactions can be fought with clear, accurate information about the disease and about how it is spreading, said Dr. Larry Kline, a San Diego physician and member of the United States-Mexico Border Health Commission. “People get snippets of information here and there, and unfortunately much of it is inaccurate. That makes things ripe for blame and blame and fear never helped anybody.”

Tamping down blame and fear isn’t just the right thing to do morally, experts agree, it’s also the right thing to do medically. Germs, Markel stressed, don’t care about skin color or national origins or borders.

“These are naturally occurring events,” he said. “We expect flu pandemics every 30 to 40 years. It’s the cost of living in a world of emerging infectious diseases. That’s the folly of prejudice. They are wherever humans are.”

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/30467300

Bob Sacamano
05-01-2009, 02:30 PM
immigrants don't like it? well they're welcome to turn right around and get the...**** out

JBond
05-01-2009, 02:50 PM
I don't think there are many anti-immigrant people on this board. I know I'm not.

Now illegal immigration is a totally different story. Throw their disease ridden arses out and lock down the border.

iceberg
05-01-2009, 02:57 PM
this is the problem you get when you make it trendy to be discriminated against. : )

ABQCOWBOY
05-01-2009, 03:08 PM
this is the problem you get when you make it trendy to be discriminated against. : )

This is as fine a statement as has been made on this board in some time, IMO.

It's OK to discriminate against people with wealth. It's OK to discriminate against hard working people who believe in the ideas of the Free Market. The list is growing longer by the day, it seems.

Now, that trend is turning towards a segmant of people who this Administration wants to cater to and it's not OK.

It was never OK but then it was and now it's not.

Excellent Point Ice.

iceberg
05-01-2009, 03:44 PM
This is as fine a statement as has been made on this board in some time, IMO.

It's OK to discriminate against people with wealth. It's OK to discriminate against hard working people who believe in the ideas of the Free Market. The list is growing longer by the day, it seems.

Now, that trend is turning towards a segmant of people who this Administration wants to cater to and it's not OK.

It was never OK but then it was and now it's not.

Excellent Point Ice.

hey, sometimes it happens. : )

The30YardSlant
05-01-2009, 04:26 PM
If the immigrants don't like it they can get the **** out

vta
05-01-2009, 04:45 PM
Something strange, and worth noting; the washing after wiping made me remember it.

Some time ago, I worked in a company that had a warehouse; that warehouse was full of Mexicans and South Americans.

In the mens room, there were gobs of soiled toilet tissue in the trash can. When I asked about it, I was told that in Mexico, they don't flush their TP, they stuff it in the can. Made for one heck of an unsavory place to go to - I'd rather go behind a dumpster.

So I drew up a funny sign, with smiling toilet and frowning trash can, stating in Spanish that toilets love poopy TP and trash cans hate it.

Needless to say, I don't want to disparage Mexicans as anything in particular, but apparently a certain demographic does behave like this.

Makes you consider why staph infection is frequently found in those filthy buffet joints that for some reason remain open for business...

ninja
05-01-2009, 06:34 PM
Show me a pretty mexican girl and I will show you a thousand guys not afraid of swine flu or afraid to mix it up with an immigrant.

Illegal aliens? The border is always open for pretty girls.

CanadianCowboysFan
05-01-2009, 06:37 PM
immigrants don't like it? well they're welcome to turn right around and get the...**** out

that's an enlightened view of the world.

iceberg
05-01-2009, 07:23 PM
Show me a pretty mexican girl and I will show you a thousand guys not afraid of swine flu or afraid to mix it up with an immigrant.

Illegal aliens? The border is always open for pretty girls.

hispanic women can be hot man - gotta agree with ya on that one.

now my real question is - how many cases of swine flu are out there and are my odds of getting it better or worse than the lottery?

ninja
05-01-2009, 07:39 PM
now my real question is - how many cases of swine flu are out there and are my odds of getting it better or worse than the lottery?

I think the probability of getting run over by a truck is a lot higher than swine flu.

How about the young lady who became allergic to water after giving birth to her son. Talk about bad luck. She can only bath for ten seconds every week and can only drink Diet Coke. She can't even hold her baby because the tears may land on her. 1 in 300 million get this from what I heard.

iceberg
05-01-2009, 07:50 PM
I think the probability of getting run over by a truck is a lot higher than swine flu.

How about the young lady who became allergic to water after giving birth to her son. Talk about bad luck. She can only bath for ten seconds every week and can only drink Diet Coke. She can't even hold her baby because the tears may land on her. 1 in 300 million get this from what I heard.

wow. we better start up a collection and save these people!

i understand the need for caution, but we just seem so willing to panic these days it's amazing.

burmafrd
05-01-2009, 07:51 PM
No, canadian, its a very pragmatic and practical point of view. They are here illegally so frankly I could care less what they think. Take your liberal whinning and slink back north where you belong.

DIAF
05-02-2009, 10:31 AM
Michael Savage being a bigoted racist ******* ? Wow, color me surprised.