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trickblue
05-04-2009, 08:24 AM
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EDITORIAL: Pelosi confronts justice
Laws apply to lawmakers, too
By | Sunday, May 3, 2009

House Speaker Nancy Pelosi is working to buffer lawmakers from federal investigators. This is a bad idea. Special legal protections for politicians encourage unethical conduct.

Irvin B. Nathan, general counsel of the House of Representatives, sent a letter to Attorney General Eric H. Holder Jr. on Monday about establishing a protocol on how to handle "hopefully rare searches and electronic surveillance involving members of Congress." Mr. Nathan previously failed to negotiate such an agreement with the George W. Bush administration when Republicans controlled the House. His return to this effort isn't surprising given the number of congressional Democrats facing accusations of ethical misconduct.

Democrats facing scrutiny include the chairman of the House Appropriations Subcommittee on Defense, John P. Murtha of Pennsylvania, for his close ties to the defense lobby firm PMA Group, which is under federal investigation; House Ways and Means Chairman Charles B. Rangel of New York about a number of tax issues; Rep. Jesse L. Jackson Jr. of Illinois over his reported effort to persuade ousted Illinois Gov. Rod R. Blagojevich to appoint him to fill President Obama's former Senate seat; and Rep. Jane Harman of California, who reportedly was taped in 2005 by the National Security Agency purportedly agreeing to help seek leniency for two accused Israeli spies in exchange for help in lobbying her appointment to chair the House Intelligence Committee.

Mrs. Pelosi, California Democrat, on Thursday invoked the separation of powers as justification for the move. Mrs. Pelosi, who has acknowledged being aware previously of Mrs. Harman's controversial dialogue, claims the stance is a matter of principle. "Whether it's invading an office or wiretapping a conversation, it's important for us to have the separation of powers and the respect for individual liberties, again, while not harboring information that would be useful under the speech [or] debate clause," she said.

The speech or debate clause of the U.S. Constitution states that "for any Speech or Debate in either House, [lawmakers] shall not be questioned in any other Place." The Supreme Court limited the scope of the provisions in 1972's United States v. Brewster to actions that are an integral part of "the due functioning of the legislative process." When there is controversy over how to implement this principle, the U.S. Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia endorses having the legislative and executive branches hash out their differences.

In 2007, the Court of Appeals found that searching then-Rep. William J. Jefferson's office was not inherently unconstitutional but that FBI agents had crossed the line by viewing every record in the Louisiana Democrat's office. The court stated that "the core activity protected by the Clause - speech in either chamber of the Congress - is a public act. In essence, therefore, what the Clause promotes is the Member's ability to be open in debate - free from interference or restriction - rather than any secrecy right."

There is a long history of self-serving efforts to protect congressional privilege in the face of ethical scandals despite the clear limits set by the courts. The speaker's spokesman told us that negotiations with the Department of Justice are simply intended to clarify what is appropriate in terms of notifying members about searches and tapped conversations. "Members can't expect sanctuary in their offices," he added. We agree, but Mrs. Pelosi's effort makes it appear as if that is exactly what she is seeking. No deal should give lawmakers leniency from federal officers investigating corruption on Capitol Hill.

mmillman
05-04-2009, 08:40 AM
House Minority Whip Eric Cantor and former governors Jeb Bush (Fla.) and Mitt Romney (Mass.) -- along with more than 100 attendees -- crowded in a pizza joint in Arlington on Saturday to make the case that the party is down but not out.

"It is about time to be an inclusive as we can," said Cantor recently of the town halls, which are being organized by a new group -- that he is leading -- known as the National Council for a New America. "What we are aiming to do it to join together in hopes of beginning a conversation with the American people."

The formation of the National Council comes within days of another upstart GOP group -- known as Resurgent Republic -- comprised of a number of top elected officials and consultants within the party that is designed to provide data via polling and focus groups to guide a series of policy pronouncements.

"This is a matter of trying to pull some of the finest minds in the country together to craft a creative and energetic new message," explained pollster Whit Ayres, one of the co-founders of the group. "The idea is to think forward not backward."

These twin developments are a recognition by the establishment wing of the party that the Republican brand is in absolutely dire shape and could relegate the GOP to permanent minority status unless change comes -- and comes quickly.

Self-identifying Republicans are at their lowest ebb in decades -- just 21 percent of Americans called themselves Republicans in the most recent Washington Post/ABC survey -- and independents continue to be more inclined to support Democrats.

That same poll showed that social issues -- like gay marriage -- are of declining potency in a political context. Forty-nine percent of the sample said they supported the idea of gay people being allowed to marry while 46 percent opposed it, a drastic shift from a 2006 Post/ABC poll where opposition (58 percent) to gay marriage far outstripped support (36 percent) for the idea.

Can a series of town halls or focus groups launch Republicans from their minority status politically? Absolutely not. And, in truth, much depends on how President Obama performs over the coming years. If Obama is perceived to be succeeding in leading the country out of the recession then it's hard to imagine the country clamoring for alternative solutions.

But the formation of the National Council and Resurgent Republic suggests that some within the party believe they know what ails it and are beginning to take steps to solve the problems that have plagued the GOP over the past several elections.

The critical question is whether the base of the Republican Party -- its most vocal and conservative element -- will follow along with these new efforts or reject them as an attempt to moderate the message to appeal to independents.

The answer to that question will likely determine the success or failure not just of these two groups but also of the GOP as a whole in the 2010 and 2012 election.

Jarv
05-04-2009, 12:13 PM
mmillman...

How are these 2 post related ?

What ugly Nancy is proposing seems very serious, like a pre-clude to cover ups.

JBond
05-04-2009, 12:55 PM
Why aren't federal investigators allowed all the same powers to conduct an investigation against politicians that they are able to use against citizens?

trickblue
05-04-2009, 01:43 PM
Why aren't federal investigators allowed all the same powers to conduct an investigation against politicians that they are able to use against citizens?

I'll assume that's a rhetorical question... ;)