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masomenos

05-05-2009, 03:19 PM

News is more about entertainment than reporting, so I'm sure it was intentional. You cut and edit to your talking points because the audience wants to agree with the anchor, it justifies their beliefs and makes them feel intelligent. All of the major news networks are a joke, Fox is just as bad as CNN, is just as bad as MSNBC. It's a shame.

DFWJC

05-05-2009, 03:20 PM

Can't watch the clip right now from work...but let's say it was both lazy and intentional. :)
I mean what does it matter? It's all sad thses days. We know Fox is biased to the right but pretty much everyone else is biased left. The further from the center these networks are, the more likely convenient editing will occur.

To the left we have: MSNBC, NBC, CBS, CNN...maybe ABC.
On the right you have... Fox...with an equivalent position on the other side of the scale as maybe NBC or CBS....so also pretty biased.

JBond

05-05-2009, 03:21 PM

Media Matters is funded by the Democracy Alliance which is funded by George Soros and his brother. Just so everyone's understands where you are getting this from.

All the news is slanted. Take Obama's tax hikes. The lap dog media calls them closing loopholes. The correct term would be tax increases. They all play the game. FOX is out to make money just like the rest of them.

zrinkill

05-05-2009, 03:27 PM

Wonder if you were this upset about the Bush AWOL lies?

Every News channel does this kinda crap or worse.

Take everything any of them say with a grain of salt.

masomenos

05-05-2009, 03:32 PM

Media Matters is funded by the Democracy Alliance which is funded by George Soros and his brother. Just so everyone's understands where you are getting this from.

Exactly, if you go to the Media Matters website the only stories you see are those against Limbaugh and Fox. As if those two are the only ones guilty of falsifying the news.

DFWJC

05-05-2009, 03:40 PM

Media Matters is funded by the Democracy Alliance which is funded by George Soros and his brother. Just so everyone's understands where you are getting this from.
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And there cannot possibly be a more powerfully corrupt and agenda-driven group than that. Soros borders on the devil himself...if you are someone who wants the USA to remain an independently sovereign nation. He absolutey hates this country and dreams of a one world order to things. No attempt to even hide it really...so I do give him credit for that much.
:D ...jmo, of course.

Doomsday101

05-05-2009, 03:49 PM

O'Reily factor and Hannity is not news they are opinion shows for entertainment. Just as Campbell Brown is or Keith Oberman.

DIAF

05-05-2009, 03:50 PM

O'Reily factor and Hannity is not news they are opinion shows for entertainment. Just as Campbell Brown is or Keith Oberman.

And this is why cable network news SUCKS.

Doomsday101

05-05-2009, 03:52 PM

And this is why cable network news SUCKS.

If they sucked they would not be doing as well in the ratings as they do. If I want to watch news I will watch CNN and FOX but I know the difference between news and entertainment programs.

Heisenberg

05-05-2009, 03:53 PM

And this is why cable network news SUCKS.

It doesn't suck if you realize what you're getting. I don't watch Olbermann unless I want to hear a left-leaning slant on the news of the day and lots of opinion.

PosterChild

05-05-2009, 03:54 PM

And there cannot possibly be a more powerfully corrupt and agenda-driven group than that. Soros borders on the devil himself...if you are someone who wants the USA to remain an independently sovereign nation. He absolutey hates this country and dreams of a one world order to things. No attempt to even hide it really...so I do give him credit for that much.
:D ...jmo, of course.

Yeah,Soros is a social engineer. A bit of a wealthy crusader or King maker, but, good grief...in general, in regards to these networks, I vow and I swear I'm always amazed that ppl think Cable "news" outlets are anything but entertainment vehicles. Do they have various biases? Sure, but their top priority is to pander to their respective audiences. And retain them. They do most effectively via infotainment! Ever watch FNC during the day? They sound like short tennis skirt wearing women gossiping at a country club. That's not an accident--they know who they're talking to during the day...they care about ad revenue and little else. This apparent blatant bias is nothing more than each outlet carving out their mkt niche and slapping it on a plate to present to the ad agencies to savor.

You're better off aggregating information you need via the net, filtered by sources you trust. Like Daily Kos, fer example...<--------j/k

DIAF

05-05-2009, 03:55 PM

If they sucked they would not be doing as well in the ratings as they do. If I want to watch news I will watch CNN and FOX but I know the difference between news and entertainment programs.

Reality TV sucks and yet it kills in the ratings. Just because news "does well" in ratings doesn't mean its more or less accurate. It's just more or less ENTERTAINING.

Doomsday101

05-05-2009, 04:16 PM

Reality TV sucks and yet it kills in the ratings. Just because news "does well" in ratings doesn't mean its more or less accurate. It's just more or less ENTERTAINING.

The news is accurate these programs are not news they are talk shows. Something I agree with them much of the time they will take things 1 step to far where I disagree but knowing the difference between news broadcast and shows as was show in the clip above are 2 different things.

arglebargle

05-05-2009, 04:17 PM

Exactly, if you go to the Media Matters website the only stories you see are those against Limbaugh and Fox. As if those two are the only ones guilty of falsifying the news.

It's not like you are going to find any stories about their errors on any Murdoch owned outlet.

It's pretty much the case that your opponents will be the most serious about vetting your screw ups. That is why it is useful to read arguements on both sides of the issues. Then make up your mind.

I was reading an article on science by a well known researcher, and he said there was nothing better for a scientist than a dedicated enemy. No one would check your work as thoroughly, searching for errors in methodology or computation.

Of course, that's probably a bit easier to stomach when you are actually trying to get to the bottom of how something works, and not trying to win ratings or political contests.

DFWJC

05-05-2009, 04:26 PM

Yeah,Soros is a social engineer. A bit of a wealthy crusader or King maker, but, good grief...in general, in regards to these networks, I vow and I swear I'm always amazed that ppl think Cable "news" outlets are anything but entertainment vehicles. Do they have various biases? Sure, but their top priority is to pander to their respective audiences. And retain them. They do most effectively via infotainment! Ever watch FNC during the day? They sound like short tennis skirt wearing women gossiping at a country club. That's not an accident--they know who they're talking to during the day...they care about ad revenue and little else. This apparent blatant bias is nothing more than each outlet carving out their mkt niche and slapping it on a plate to present to the ad agencies to savor.

You're better off aggregating information you need via the net, filtered by sources you trust. Like Daily Kos, fer example...<--------j/k

Many good points.
To me it crosses the line not when regular entertainment shows are on, but when they are actually reporting the news. Furthermore, this pandering is no longer limited to cable networks, but is now a staple for regular network news.

Funny line on the Kos...it could never get more biased than that.:D

ConcordCowboy

05-05-2009, 05:13 PM

It doesn't suck if you realize what you're getting. I don't watch Olbermann unless I want to hear a left-leaning slant on the news of the day and lots of opinion.

I watch Olbermann...so he can tell me just how damn crazy the Right Wing is.

PosterChild

05-05-2009, 05:14 PM

Many good points.
To me it crosses the line not when regular entertainment shows are on, but when they are actually reporting the news. Furthermore, this pandering is no longer limited to cable networks, but is now a staple for regular network news.

Funny line on the Kos...it could never get more biased than that.:D

Yep. And it's not so much that I'm advocating against cable "news' really, I watch it occasionally because it is sometimes infotaining, I just really like ppl to grasp what they're seeing and why it's presented as it is. It's not so much that they are so fervently slanted but are playing to those who may be...imo i should say. Course the screaming about biases and abuses and deception is entertaining in itself..haha

DFWJC

05-05-2009, 05:20 PM

I watch Olbermann...so he can tell me just how damn crazy the Right Wing is.

He has a real talent for that.:chop:

ConcordCowboy

05-05-2009, 05:32 PM

He has a real talent for that.:chop:

I loved Ben Affleck on SNL parodying Keith and how he would swing from side to side...Hilarious.

Heisenberg

05-05-2009, 05:53 PM

I loved Ben Affleck on SNL parodying Keith and how he would swing from side to side...Hilarious.

Ha yes. Doing entire spins in his chair and then stopping and yelling at the camera? Hilarious.

Rogah

05-05-2009, 05:56 PM

I am not sure if this is just lazy or intentional.I only watched the first example, and I can say it's not a matter of laziness or bias, it is a matter of time. Airtime is a very precious commodity in the newsroom. Segments are scheduled down to the second, and both questions and answered are regularly truncated. Believe it or not, they do the same thing at MSNBC too.

CowboyWay

05-05-2009, 06:58 PM

No matter what news you watch, its a pretty sad state of affairs that you can't watch a news show objectively anymore.

Someone call Walter Cronkite and get him back in the booth.

JBond

05-05-2009, 10:41 PM

No matter what news you watch, its a pretty sad state of affairs that you can't watch a news show objectively anymore.

Someone call Walter Cronkite and get him back in the booth.

Walter Cronkite? Are you serious? He was in a one man propaganda machine for the Dems.

PosterChild

05-05-2009, 10:45 PM

Walter Cronkite? Are you serious? He was in a one man propaganda machine for the Dems.

Nahhh, Humour. And ever so sly. I like it.

theogt

05-05-2009, 10:49 PM

I actually think this makes sense to edit it this way -- and it makes Gore look more favorable.

theogt

05-05-2009, 10:50 PM

I watch Olbermann...so he can tell me just how damn crazy the Right Wing is.Seriously, if you watch Olbermann and enjoy it, you're a nutcase. Just like if you watch O'Reilly and enjoy it.

ConcordCowboy

05-06-2009, 06:05 AM

Seriously, if you watch Olbermann and enjoy it, you're a nutcase. Just like if you watch O'Reilly and enjoy it.

Or Listen to Rush or watch Fox News or watch Hardball...

That same thing could be said about anyone on this board including you I'm sure.

I like Keith and make no apologies for it.

Jordan55

05-06-2009, 06:22 AM

Or Listen to Rush or watch Fox News or watch Hardball...

That same thing could be said about anyone on this board including you I'm sure.

I like Keith and make no apologies for it.

Yeah you and what ten other loons?:D

ConcordCowboy

05-06-2009, 06:31 AM

Yeah you and what ten other loons?:D

The list is long but distinguished...like my...

:D

Jordan55

05-06-2009, 06:39 AM

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theogt

05-06-2009, 12:13 PM

Or Listen to Rush or watch Fox News or watch Hardball...

That same thing could be said about anyone on this board including you I'm sure.

I like Keith and make no apologies for it.Rush is a good comparison. If you listen to and enjoy Rush, you're a political extremist. Fox News as a whole, not so much. It has it's commentators, but as a news channel it's roughly similar to the others such that it wouldn't speak to your credibility/sanity if you watched it.

And I don't think Hardball fits either, but I haven't watched it in years. At least then it wasn't too politically biased one way or the other.

ConcordCowboy

05-06-2009, 02:14 PM

Rush is a good comparison. If you listen to and enjoy Rush, you're a political extremist. Fox News as a whole, not so much. It has it's commentators, but as a news channel it's roughly similar to the others such that it wouldn't speak to your credibility/sanity if you watched it.

And I don't think Hardball fits either, but I haven't watched it in years. At least then it wasn't too politically biased one way or the other.

It's not about fitting or not.

I'm saying that there will be people here that think someone is a Nutcase for watching Hardball.

Or posting something from MSNBC...even when it's only a news story and not a commentary from them.

Or for watching Fox...or whatever.

Or listening to Ann Coulter. (This I agree with) :D

In other words...YOU are a Nutcase to some.

Just because I like Keith doesn't mean that I don't realize that he goes overboard sometimes.

You take the good with the bad and you filter out the overboard BS and move on.

burmafrd

05-06-2009, 02:16 PM

liking Olberman pretty much puts the screws to being considered any kind of an intellectual.

Rogah

05-06-2009, 02:20 PM

I actually think this makes sense to edit it this way -- and it makes Gore look more favorable.I have to confess that this was the reaction I had as well. They took out 35 seconds of him calmly responding (i.e. the boring part), and put in the response where he passionately (but articulately) denies any sort of personal gain from his environmental lobbying.

theogt

05-06-2009, 02:30 PM

It's not about fitting or not.

I'm saying that there will be people here that think someone is a Nutcase for watching Hardball.

Or posting something from MSNBC...even when it's only a news story and not a commentary from them.

Or for watching Fox...or whatever.

Or listening to Ann Coulter. (This I agree with) :D

In other words...YOU are a Nutcase to some.

Just because I like Keith doesn't mean that I don't realize that he goes overboard sometimes.

You take the good with the bad and you filter out the overboard BS and move on.The only people that think someone is a nutcase for watching MSNBC or Fox News are the nutcases.

Just because someone thinks that something is the case, doesn't mean it's reasonble. But it is within reason to claim that anyone who watches and enjoys someone like Olbermann, Coulter or O'Reilly is a political extremist/nutjob.

DFWJC

05-06-2009, 02:40 PM

It's not about fitting or not.

I'm saying that there will be people here that think someone is a Nutcase for watching Hardball.

Or posting something from MSNBC...even when it's only a news story and not a commentary from them.

Or for watching Fox...or whatever.

Or listening to Ann Coulter. (This I agree with) :D

In other words...YOU are a Nutcase to some.

Just because I (admit) like Keith doesn't mean that I don't realize that he goes overboard sometimes.

You take the good with the bad and you filter out the overboard BS and move on.

The 1st step is always the hardest CC! You are now on your way to sobriety. Don't do it!

ConcordCowboy

05-06-2009, 02:45 PM

The only people that think someone is a nutcase for watching MSNBC or Fox News are the nutcases.

Just because someone thinks that something is the case, doesn't mean it's reasonble. But it is within reason to claim that anyone who watches and enjoys someone like Olbermann, Coulter or O'Reilly is a political extremist/nutjob.

Well just because you think you have a reasonable claim doesn't make it true.

But if you're going to make me a nut...make it Brazilian.

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