Obama Will Give (Apology) Speech to Muslim World On June 4 In Egypt

[Jordan55]

President Barack Obama will give an (apology) speech to the Muslim World from Egypt on June 4 and then travel to Europe where he will recognize German suffering during World War II.
Reuters reported:


U.S. President Barack Obama, who has pledged to rebuild U.S. relations with the Muslim world, will give a key speech on the issue in Egypt on June 4, White House spokesman Robert Gibbs said on Friday.
Obama already apologized to the Muslim World in his first interview with Al-Arabiya television as president.
President Bush liberated 50 million Muslims from two of the most brutal and violent regimes in the past century.

Of Course... Obama Will Recognize German Suffering During D-Day Anniversary Events
President Barack Obama will travel to the Buchenwald Concentration Camp during D-Day Anniversary events in Europe. The president plans on acknowledging German suffering during the anniversary ceremonies.
The Times Online reported, via JWF:


During the election campaign Mr Obama sought regularly to deflect any suggestion that his exotic multinational background meant that he lacked patriotism by pointing out how his maternal grandfather, Stanley Dunham, had “marched with Patton’s army” after the Normandy landings.

...Visiting a concentration camp will send an important message to Israel and Jewish voters back home — who have sometimes been suspicious towards him — that he fully recognises the horrors of the Holocaust.

But he will be aware of the sensibilities of his German hosts before the D-Day commemoration and by travelling to Dresden — a city destroyed by ferocious Allied bombing in February 1945 — Mr Obama will also acknowledge how Germany suffered during the Second World War.

I feel so much better as an American, keeping my head held high knowing that I didn't vote for this TOTUS :rolleyes:

[Doomsday101]

President Barack Obama will give an (apology) speech to the Muslim World from Egypt on June 4 and then travel to Europe where he will recognize German suffering during World War II.
Reuters reported:


U.S. President Barack Obama, who has pledged to rebuild U.S. relations with the Muslim world, will give a key speech on the issue in Egypt on June 4, White House spokesman Robert Gibbs said on Friday.
Obama already apologized to the Muslim World in his first interview with Al-Arabiya television as president.
President Bush liberated 50 million Muslims from two of the most brutal and violent regimes in the past century.

Of Course... Obama Will Recognize German Suffering During D-Day Anniversary Events
President Barack Obama will travel to the Buchenwald Concentration Camp during D-Day Anniversary events in Europe. The president plans on acknowledging German suffering during the anniversary ceremonies.
The Times Online reported, via JWF:


During the election campaign Mr Obama sought regularly to deflect any suggestion that his exotic multinational background meant that he lacked patriotism by pointing out how his maternal grandfather, Stanley Dunham, had “marched with Patton’s army” after the Normandy landings.

...Visiting a concentration camp will send an important message to Israel and Jewish voters back home — who have sometimes been suspicious towards him — that he fully recognises the horrors of the Holocaust.

But he will be aware of the sensibilities of his German hosts before the D-Day commemoration and by travelling to Dresden — a city destroyed by ferocious Allied bombing in February 1945 — Mr Obama will also acknowledge how Germany suffered during the Second World War.

I feel so much better as an American, keeping my head held high knowing that I didn't vote for this TOTUS :rolleyes:

Now I understand why Mrs. Obama talked being proud for the 1st time of being an American before her husband won, we are just a rotten country. :rolleyes:

[Jordan55]

And a warm follow up from our friends in Iran

At Friday prayers on May 1, 2009, Iranian Ayatollah Khatami criticized Obama's calls for talks and declared that Americans are not human beings...
And, "Death to America."
MEMRI reported, via ROP:


In his Friday, May 1, 2009 sermon at the Tehran University campus, Interim Tehran Friday prayer leader Ayatollah Ahmad Khatami criticized Washington for its call for talks with Tehran, saying, "The Iranian nation is the same nation that put all options of (former U.S. President George W.) Bush under table and into history's dustbin. (U.S. President Barack) Obama is now toeing Bush's line regarding Iran."

"Arab World Must Realize That Should Israel Gain Power, It Would Not Hesitate to Occupy Other Countries in the Region"

Khatami, an Iranian Assembly of Experts member, also encouraged the Arab world to cut ties with Israel, warned certain Arab leaders over their efforts to maintain close relations with it, and said that the Arab world must realize that should Israel gain power, it would not hesitate to occupy other countries in the region.

"'If America Was A Human Being, We Would Talk With It' - But You Are Not Human Beings, And This is the Same Nation It Was 30 Years Ago... And [Therefore] Say: 'Death to America!'"

In further comments on U.S.-Iran relations, Khatami said: "Praise to the Imam [Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini, founder of the Islamic Revolution in Iran] who said, 'If America was a human being, we would talk with it' - but you are not human beings, and this is the same nation it was 30 years ago... and [therefore] say: 'Death to America!'"

[DIAF]

President Barack Obama will give an (apology) speech to the Muslim World from Egypt on June 4 and then travel to Europe where he will recognize German suffering during World War II.
Reuters reported:


U.S. President Barack Obama, who has pledged to rebuild U.S. relations with the Muslim world, will give a key speech on the issue in Egypt on June 4, White House spokesman Robert Gibbs said on Friday.
Obama already apologized to the Muslim World in his first interview with Al-Arabiya television as president.
President Bush liberated 50 million Muslims from two of the most brutal and violent regimes in the past century.

Of Course... Obama Will Recognize German Suffering During D-Day Anniversary Events
President Barack Obama will travel to the Buchenwald Concentration Camp during D-Day Anniversary events in Europe. The president plans on acknowledging German suffering during the anniversary ceremonies.
The Times Online reported, via JWF:


During the election campaign Mr Obama sought regularly to deflect any suggestion that his exotic multinational background meant that he lacked patriotism by pointing out how his maternal grandfather, Stanley Dunham, had “marched with Patton’s army” after the Normandy landings.

...Visiting a concentration camp will send an important message to Israel and Jewish voters back home — who have sometimes been suspicious towards him — that he fully recognises the horrors of the Holocaust.

But he will be aware of the sensibilities of his German hosts before the D-Day commemoration and by travelling to Dresden — a city destroyed by ferocious Allied bombing in February 1945 — Mr Obama will also acknowledge how Germany suffered during the Second World War.

I feel so much better as an American, keeping my head held high knowing that I didn't vote for this TOTUS :rolleyes:

While the bolded part is true, you can't really tout that as a success just yet as things are largely worse than they were before. Still got corners to turn on those before both become orderly societies.

[Jordan55]

While the bolded part is true, you can't really tout that as a success just yet as things are largely worse than they were before. Still got corners to turn on those before both become orderly societies.

Diaf, I'm not touting any success their won't be any under this administration concerning foreign affairs but enlighten me why we are apologizing, I don't grasp it and this will be the second time. Mean while re-enforcing the Muslim perception, that were weakening, to think the jihadists just might have made the super power bow and kiss some Muslim posterior.
I can't remember any Muslim apologies after 9/11 in fact I tend to recall them dancing in the streets and celebrating.
They will never be orderly societies unfortunely to many religious factions, that is the truely sad part:rolleyes:

[ShiningStar]

While the bolded part is true, you can't really tout that as a success just yet as things are largely worse than they were before. Still got corners to turn on those before both become orderly societies.


Does this apply to some of Obamas so called successes regardless of things being worse than they were before?

[arglebargle]

Being reported as a given that it will be an apology: I just wonder who reporting this has seen the speech already to verify that.

Also, previously, I don't think that acknowledging we have been arrogant is an 'apology'.

[WoodysGirl]

Being reported as a given that it will be an apology: I just wonder who reporting this has seen the speech already to verify that.

Also, previously, I don't think that acknowledging we have been arrogant is an 'apology'.
The original post suggests it will be an apology....others just say he will be addressing the muslim world...and the one article I read doesn't suggest anything related to the content.

Link: http://www.mcclatchydc.com/politics/story/67822.html

[arglebargle]

"I can't remember any Muslim apologies after 9/11 in fact I tend to recall them dancing in the streets and celebrating." Jordan55

Some cerainly were. However your remembering is a bit off.



On September 12 2001--one day after the attacks on New York and Washington--Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak appeared on Egypt's state television with his cabinet to condemn the attacks on America and all forms of terrorism. Mubarak also conveyed his condolences to President George W. Bush and the American people. Two days later, Mohammed Sayyed al-Tantawi, the Sheikh of Al-Azhar, Islam's most important seat of learning, also publicly denounced the attack. Tantawi said, "attacking innocent people is not courageous … and will be punished on the day of judgment."1 A few days later, on September 17, high-ranking government officials, including Prime Minister Atef Obeid and a number of other ministers, as well as the President's son Gamal Mubarak, visited the American Embassy in Cairo personally, paying their condolences to the US Ambassador and signing the official book of condolences. Official Cairo unequivocally denounced the attacks on America. The reaction from the Egyptian public, however, was much more complex

http://conconflicts.ssrc.org/archives/mideast/shehata/


For many of us, one of the most disturbing images of these past painful weeks has been that of the celebration of a few Palestinian youths after the tragedy.
This image has been played over and over again on CNN, thus reinforcing the myth that somehow the whole of the Arab and Muslim world rejoices at our pain.
Closer examination has revealed that that celebration was in fact a very limited phenomenon, limited to a few Palestinian villages. Almost every single head of state in the Muslim world has expressed grief and outrage over this tragedy, fully expressing sympathy with the Americans who have lost loved ones in this tragedy.

We believe that it is important that these images, these words, also receive national attention.

The picture to the right is a poignant image of two Palestinian women mourning the loss of life in the tragedies of September 11th.
- The terrorist act was strongly condemned by every single Palestinian organization including Fatah, the Democratic Front for the Liberation of Palestine, the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine, Hamas, Workers Unions and Committees, Human Right organizations (AlHaq, Law, Palestine Center for Human Rights), student associations, municipalities, mosques and churches, etc.

- The US Consul General in Jerusalem reported that he has received a huge stack of faxes from Palestinians and Palestinian organizations expressing condolences, grief and solidarity. He himself was pained to see that the media chose to focus on the sensational images of a few Palestinians rejoicing.

- The Palestine Legislative Council condemned the terrorist attack on the United States and sent an urgent letter of condolences to Mr. J Dennis Hasterd, Speaker of the House of Representatives.

- Palestinians in East Jerusalem held a candle-light vigils on 12 and 14 September to express their grief and solidarity with the American families struck by this tragedy. Mr. Abdel Qader Al-Husseini, son of the late Palestinian leader Faisal Al-Husseini led one of the vigils.

- Jerusalem University students, along with the President of the University and the Deans of the various Faculties, began a blood donation drive in East Jerusalem. Students and professors went to hospitals in order to donate blood for the American victims who need it.

- The 1 million Palestinian students in the Palestinian Territory, including East Jerusalem, stood five minutes in silence to express their solidarity with the hundreds of American children who have been struck by this strategy, which resembles in its shocking effects their daily sufferings. (see image to the right)

-In Iran, Tehran's main soccer stadium observed an unprecedented minute's silence in sympathy with the victims.

-Iran's Ayatollah Imami Kashani spoke of a catastrophic act of terrorism which could only be condemned by all Muslims, adding the whole world should mobilise against terrorism.

http://groups.colgate.edu/aarislam/response.htm#Expressions%20of%20grief%20and%20symp athy%20in%20the%20Arab%20and%20Muslim%20world:

Mustafa Mashhur, General Guide, Muslim Brotherhood, Egypt; Qazi Hussain Ahmed, Ameer, Jamaat-e-Islami Pakistan, Pakistan; Muti Rahman Nizami, Ameer, Jamaat-e-Islami Bangladesh, Bangladesh; Shaykh Ahmad Yassin, Founder, Islamic Resistance Movement (Hamas), Palestine; Rashid Ghannoushi, President, Nahda Renaissance Movement, Tunisia; Fazil Nour, President, PAS - Parti Islam SeMalaysia, Malaysia; and 40 other Muslim scholars and politicians:
“The undersigned, leaders of Islamic movements, are horrified by the events of Tuesday 11 September 2001 in the United States which resulted in massive killing, destruction and attack on innocent lives. We express our deepest sympathies and sorrow. We condemn, in the strongest terms, the incidents, which are against all human and Islamic norms. This is grounded in the Noble Laws of Islam which forbid all forms of attacks on innocents. God Almighty says in the Holy Qur'an: 'No bearer of burdens can bear the burden of another' (Surah al-Isra 17:15).”
MSANews, September 14, 2001, http://msanews.mynet.net/MSANEWS/200109/20010917.15.html;
Arabic original in al-Quds al-Arabi (London), September 14, 2001, p. 2, http://www.alquds.co.uk/Alquds/2001/09Sep/14%20Sep%20Fri/Quds02.pdf

etc

http://www.unc.edu/~kurzman/terror.htm

[arglebargle]

The original post suggests it will be an apology....others just say he will be addressing the muslim world...and the one article I read doesn't suggest anything related to the content.

Link: http://www.mcclatchydc.com/politics/story/67822.html

This story seems to be making the rounds of the usual suspects. Loads of high dudgeon before there's anything to justify it, in my opinion. I found it almost word for word here....

http://gatewaypundit.blogspot.com/2009/05/obama-will-give-apology-speech-to.html

[Royal Laegotti]

President Barack Obama will give an (apology) speech to the Muslim World from Egypt on June 4 and then travel to Europe where he will recognize German suffering during World War II.
Reuters reported:


U.S. President Barack Obama, who has pledged to rebuild U.S. relations with the Muslim world, will give a key speech on the issue in Egypt on June 4, White House spokesman Robert Gibbs said on Friday.
Obama already apologized to the Muslim World in his first interview with Al-Arabiya television as president.
President Bush liberated 50 million Muslims from two of the most brutal and violent regimes in the past century.

Of Course... Obama Will Recognize German Suffering During D-Day Anniversary Events
President Barack Obama will travel to the Buchenwald Concentration Camp during D-Day Anniversary events in Europe. The president plans on acknowledging German suffering during the anniversary ceremonies.
The Times Online reported, via JWF:


During the election campaign Mr Obama sought regularly to deflect any suggestion that his exotic multinational background meant that he lacked patriotism by pointing out how his maternal grandfather, Stanley Dunham, had “marched with Patton’s army” after the Normandy landings.

...Visiting a concentration camp will send an important message to Israel and Jewish voters back home — who have sometimes been suspicious towards him — that he fully recognises the horrors of the Holocaust.

But he will be aware of the sensibilities of his German hosts before the D-Day commemoration and by travelling to Dresden — a city destroyed by ferocious Allied bombing in February 1945 — Mr Obama will also acknowledge how Germany suffered during the Second World War.

I feel so much better as an American, keeping my head held high knowing that I didn't vote for this TOTUS :rolleyes:

I think I'll start getting bids to put a bomb shelter in my back yard.

[burmafrd]

argle you rather convienently leave out some critical facts about street demonstrations in many muslim countries that showed support for the 9/11 attackers. And lets face reality=much of what was said right after 9/11 was NOT followed up by ACTIONS. Many of the leaders of the muslim world have remained silent and have NOT taken action or even spoken out against the Al Queeda led extremists.

And DIAF I am NOT surprised that you toe the liberal line about how Iraq is now worse off then under Saddam.

[Jordan55]

Well, it’s official: President Barack Obama will deliver his long-rumored address to the Muslim world in Cairo on June 4th. Early reports suggest that Obama chose “The City of One-Thousand Minarets” for this speech to bolster U.S.-Egyptian ties, which have been chilly ever since the Bush administration called on the Mubarak regime to hold competitive elections in 2005.

If so, the irony is astounding. After all, showing respect for Islam and embracing Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak are mutually exclusive activities. Indeed, how does one show respect to Muslims while cozying up to a dictator who represses nearly 70 million of them? Alternatively, how does one reassure a secular Arab dictator of his relationship with Washington while also telling his citizens that the U.S. has a “stake” in their well being?

In short, if Obama believes that the choice between Muslim publics and their secular authoritarian leaders is another “false” one, he’s about to be disappointed. Make no mistake: the moment our Agent of Change is seen standing next to Misr Stability, millions of Muslims will conclude – rightly – that Obama is no different from his Hosni-loving predecessors. Actually, many Muslims might conclude that Obama is worse, since none of his predecessors had the temerity to claim that their relationship with Mubarak was in the name of cross-cultural respect.

This is public diplomacy at its most asinine.

[MetalHead]

When are they going to have the million muslim march protesting their extremists?

[theogt]

Being reported as a given that it will be an apology: I just wonder who reporting this has seen the speech already to verify that.

Also, previously, I don't think that acknowledging we have been arrogant is an 'apology'.

The original post suggests it will be an apology....others just say he will be addressing the muslim world...and the one article I read doesn't suggest anything related to the content.

Link: http://www.mcclatchydc.com/politics/story/67822.htmlMisleading thread titles by the wingnuts?

Nooooooooooooooo, you don't say.

[bbgun]

I'd be much more appalled if he in any way apologized for the Dresden bombings at the upcoming D-Day commemoration.

[STAR GAZER]

I hope Obama isn't all carrot and no stick. I guess we will have to wait and see. My beef with the Bush administration, is that it was all stick and no carrot.

[WoodysGirl]

Egypt's Muslim Brotherhood dismisses Obama speech

Sat May 9, 9:34 am ET
CAIRO (Reuters) – Egypt's Muslim Brotherhood dismissed Saturday U.S. President Barack Obama's plan to deliver a speech to the Muslim world from Egypt as part of a plan to keep Arab and Muslim states divided.

Deputy leader Mohamed Habib said overtures by the United States to countries like Syria and Iran, and recent visits by U.S. officials to Egypt and Saudi Arabia, indicated the speech would be used to further the superpower's pro-Israeli agenda.

"The U.S. administration is trying to use each of these countries individually to serve the American agenda and American interests, in addition to securing, promoting, protecting and guaranteeing the superiority of the Zionist entity (Israel)," Habib told Reuters.

The Brotherhood is Egypt's largest and most powerful opposition group, and seeks an Islamic state through democratic means. It disavowed violence decades ago and is officially banned, but operates relatively openly.

Obama will deliver a speech to the Muslim world in Egypt on June 4 in which he will seek to repair ties that were severely damaged under his predecessor George W. Bush.

"The statements are rosy, but politics is not built on statements as much as it's based on practices on the ground. Let's wait and see," Habib said.

The Brotherhood controls roughly a fifth of seats in Egypt's lower house of parliament. The group played a seminal role in the development of Islamist ideology and political groups around the Muslim world.

(Reporting by Aziz El-Kaissouni; editing by Robert Woodward)

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20090509/ts_nm/us_obama_muslims_brotherhood

[BigWillie]

Misleading thread titles by the wingnuts?

Nooooooooooooooo, you don't say.

The spelling and grammar of the 'articles' should have been enough to tell you how much to believe those those things. :p:

[trickblue]

The spelling and grammar of the 'articles' should have been enough to tell you how much to believe those those things. :p:

I I guess guess you you have have a a point point...

[iceberg]

President Barack Obama will give an (apology) speech to the Muslim World from Egypt on June 4 and then travel to Europe where he will recognize German suffering during World War II.
Reuters reported:

U.S. President Barack Obama, who has pledged to rebuild U.S. relations with the Muslim world, will give a key speech on the issue in Egypt on June 4, White House spokesman Robert Gibbs said on Friday.
Obama already apologized to the Muslim World in his first interview with Al-Arabiya television as president.
President Bush liberated 50 million Muslims from two of the most brutal and violent regimes in the past century.

Of Course... Obama Will Recognize German Suffering During D-Day Anniversary Events
President Barack Obama will travel to the Buchenwald Concentration Camp during D-Day Anniversary events in Europe. The president plans on acknowledging German suffering during the anniversary ceremonies.
The Times Online reported, via JWF:

During the election campaign Mr Obama sought regularly to deflect any suggestion that his exotic multinational background meant that he lacked patriotism by pointing out how his maternal grandfather, Stanley Dunham, had “marched with Patton’s army” after the Normandy landings.

...Visiting a concentration camp will send an important message to Israel and Jewish voters back home — who have sometimes been suspicious towards him — that he fully recognises the horrors of the Holocaust.

But he will be aware of the sensibilities of his German hosts before the D-Day commemoration and by travelling to Dresden — a city destroyed by ferocious Allied bombing in February 1945 — Mr Obama will also acknowledge how Germany suffered during the Second World War.

I feel so much better as an American, keeping my head held high knowing that I didn't vote for this TOTUS :rolleyes:

obama is a pop culture president. he's trying to fix everything and will in the end fix nothing.

he never focused.

[WarC]

I'd be much more appalled if he in any way apologized for the Dresden bombings at the upcoming D-Day commemoration.

I might be wrong on this but I believe the Brits bombed Dresden.

[WarC]

Egypt's Muslim Brotherhood dismisses Obama speech

The Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt was one of the very FIRST so called "wahabbist" extremist fundamentalist movements in the middle east, they are the grand daddy of all the Sunni delineated extremist groups like Al Qaeda, etc.

[WarC]

On the topic of "German suffering";

As one example, on the eastern front following the German army's surrender to the Soviets, the German commander von Paulus still had 91,000 able German men under his command, and this was the number of soldiers who surrendered to the Soviets after they were surrounded and cut off.

Less than 9,000 of them made it back to Germany at the end of the war!! The rest died in the massive POW and workers camps in Russia.

Also, this is very little known, but German POWs on the western front were routinely gathered up and used as slave labor in France and other liberated territories before the end of the war.

The "de-nazification" in post-war Germany is also a subject of some controversy, George Patton wrote pretty extensively of those processes as he was the post-war leader of Bavaria for a short while and oversaw (and heavily criticized) the large-scale political purges in Germany of people who arguably in his own words "paid lip service" to the Nazis inorder to maintain their occupations and professions and livelihoods.

However, in the end, the kinds of suffering endured there were like the sufferings of any of the major contributing nations on both sides of that war...Terrible all around...

[ThaBigP]

President Barack Obama will give an (apology) speech to the Muslim World from Egypt on June 4 and then travel to Europe where he will recognize German suffering during World War II.
Reuters reported:


U.S. President Barack Obama, who has pledged to rebuild U.S. relations with the Muslim world, will give a key speech on the issue in Egypt on June 4, White House spokesman Robert Gibbs said on Friday.
Obama already apologized to the Muslim World in his first interview with Al-Arabiya television as president.
President Bush liberated 50 million Muslims from two of the most brutal and violent regimes in the past century.

Of Course... Obama Will Recognize German Suffering During D-Day Anniversary Events
President Barack Obama will travel to the Buchenwald Concentration Camp during D-Day Anniversary events in Europe. The president plans on acknowledging German suffering during the anniversary ceremonies.
The Times Online reported, via JWF:


During the election campaign Mr Obama sought regularly to deflect any suggestion that his exotic multinational background meant that he lacked patriotism by pointing out how his maternal grandfather, Stanley Dunham, had “marched with Patton’s army” after the Normandy landings.

...Visiting a concentration camp will send an important message to Israel and Jewish voters back home — who have sometimes been suspicious towards him — that he fully recognises the horrors of the Holocaust.

But he will be aware of the sensibilities of his German hosts before the D-Day commemoration and by travelling to Dresden — a city destroyed by ferocious Allied bombing in February 1945 — Mr Obama will also acknowledge how Germany suffered during the Second World War.

I feel so much better as an American, keeping my head held high knowing that I didn't vote for this TOTUS :rolleyes:

You can't make this stuff up...

Not sure if everybody knows, or if somebody already pointed out, but Obama *did* cancel his Normandy trip in order to avoid offending Germans...

The announcement of the visit:

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/2009/03/26/2009-03-26_president_obama_to_visit_normandy_beache.html

The cancellation of the visit a few days later:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/barackobama/5096803/Barack-Obama-rejects-Normandy-trip-to-avoid-offending-Germany.html

[Viper]

The Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt was one of the very FIRST so called "wahabbist" extremist fundamentalist movements in the middle east, they are the grand daddy of all the Sunni delineated extremist groups like Al Qaeda, etc.

The Muslim Brotherhood is the head of the beast, all others fall under this group. To simplify it, The brotherhood is GM, al qaeda is pontiac, hamas is Buick...ect...

[theogt]

You can't make this stuff up...

Not sure if everybody knows, or if somebody already pointed out, but Obama *did* cancel his Normandy trip in order to avoid offending Germans...

The announcement of the visit:

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/2009/03/26/2009-03-26_president_obama_to_visit_normandy_beache.html

The cancellation of the visit a few days later:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/barackobama/5096803/Barack-Obama-rejects-Normandy-trip-to-avoid-offending-Germany.htmlOf course, there's nothing in the article you link to showing that the cancellation was to "avoid offending Germans," rather the White House claimed the trip was cancelled due to "logistic."

[iceberg]

Of course, there's nothing in the article you link to showing that the cancellation was to "avoid offending Germans," rather the White House claimed the trip was cancelled due to "logistic."

this the same whitehouse that said obama didn't bow to the king?

[theogt]

this the same whitehouse that said obama didn't bow to the king?I don't know anything about that, but I don't see how someone could make the claim that the WH was placating the Germans based on the article that was posted.

[iceberg]

I don't know anything about that, but I don't see how someone could make the claim that the WH was placating the Germans based on the article that was posted.

all i'm saying is i don't believe what the whitehouse says cause they lie a lot. you can speculate a lot of directions, but i'd not really rely on what they tell me.

[theogt]

all i'm saying is i don't believe what the whitehouse says cause they lie a lot. you can speculate a lot of directions, but i'd not really rely on what they tell me.That's certainly reasonable. I wouldn't rely on what they say either. But that doesn't have much impact on what I posted.

[Jordan55]

this the same whitehouse that said obama didn't bow to the king?

Or the same one, who said our current President was unaware of the tea party protests conducted on April 15, this is an administration we can all believe in:rolleyes:
The transparency promise is the best!:)

[vta]

"The statements are rosy, but politics is not built on statements as much as it's based on practices on the ground. Let's wait and see," Habib said.]

Best line of the whole lot.
He gets it.

[Jordan55]

And the BS continues, first it's the FAIRNESS DOCTRINE, now the question is do we bailout failing left wing media newspapers?

Last night at the White House Correspondents Dinner Barack Obama prepared the country for the inevitable liberal newspaper bailout.
There's just no way Democrats are going to allow the liberal media to go under.
Inquisitr.com and Free Republic reported:


At the annual White House Correspondents Dinner in Washington DC Saturday evening (May 9), President Barack Obama ended on a serious note, pledging his undying support for journalists and specifically newspapers.

President Obama spoke about media job losses and changes in the industry, then quoted Jefferson, “if he had the choice between Government with newspapers or newspapers without Government, he’d choose the latter.” The gushing was perhaps understandable at a press function, but it’s what he said next that foretold of a newspaper bailout.

Obama told the crowd “Your ultimate success is essential to success of our democracy” before shortly saying “Government without a tough and vibrant media is not an option for the United States of America.”

The notable thing in context is that Obama primarily in the speech talks about newspapers, with other media outlets being mentioned second (collectively), or when making a joke (for example, noting that Jefferson hadn’t seen Cable News.) It would appear from the speech clearly that Obama holds the mainstream media, and particularly newspapers above online media. It is clear that when he talked about “tough and vibrant media” that he is referring to mainstream media, and newspapers in particular.

He concludes with the line that the problems in the media industry are “problems worth solving,” which sounds an awful lot like the final word that there’s going to be a newspaper bailout.