View Full Version : Aide told Pelosi waterboarding had been used
Doomsday101
05-13-2009, 09:32 AM
WASHINGTON (CNN) -- A source close to House Speaker Nancy Pelosi now confirms that Pelosi was told in February 2003 by her intelligence aide, Michael Sheehy, that waterboarding was actually used on CIA detainee Abu Zubaydah.
This appears to contradict Pelosi's account that she was never told waterboarding actually happened, only that the administration was considering using it.
Sheehy attended a briefing in which waterboarding was discussed in February 2003, with Rep. Jane Harman, D-California, who took over Pelosi's spot as the ranking Democrat on the House Intelligence Committee.
This source says Pelosi didn't object when she learned that waterboarding was being used because she had not been personally briefed about it -- only her aide had been told.
The source said Pelosi supported a letter that Harman sent to the administration at the time raising concerns. The source asked not to be identified because of the sensitive nature of matters discussed in classified intelligence briefings.
Pelosi admits attending one briefing in September 2002, but at a news conference last month, she was adamant that she did not know waterboarding was used.
"At that or any other briefing, and that was the only briefing that I was briefed on in that regard, we were not -- I repeat, we were not -- told that waterboarding or any of these other enhanced interrogation methods were used, " Pelosi said on April 23.
Some Republicans have called for Pelosi to testify at congressional hearings.
The number two House Democrat -- Majority Leader Steny Hoyer, D-Maryland -- said Tuesday, "I think the facts need to get out" regarding what members of Congress had been told about harsh interrogations.
But when asked whether Pelosi testifying would be appropriate, Hoyer did not directly answer the question, saying, "The issue is what was done. If you don't have the facts pounded on the table, they (Republicans) are pounding on the table, or they are pounding on Speaker Pelosi. Take your pick. But they are doing so as a distraction, as a distraction from what was done in this case."
Yeagermeister
05-13-2009, 09:34 AM
And you expected her to be truthful? :lmao:
ABQCOWBOY
05-13-2009, 09:37 AM
WASHINGTON (CNN) -- A source close to House Speaker Nancy Pelosi now confirms that Pelosi was told in February 2003 by her intelligence aide, Michael Sheehy, that waterboarding was actually used on CIA detainee Abu Zubaydah.
This appears to contradict Pelosi's account that she was never told waterboarding actually happened, only that the administration was considering using it.
Sheehy attended a briefing in which waterboarding was discussed in February 2003, with Rep. Jane Harman, D-California, who took over Pelosi's spot as the ranking Democrat on the House Intelligence Committee.
This source says Pelosi didn't object when she learned that waterboarding was being used because she had not been personally briefed about it -- only her aide had been told.
The source said Pelosi supported a letter that Harman sent to the administration at the time raising concerns. The source asked not to be identified because of the sensitive nature of matters discussed in classified intelligence briefings.
Pelosi admits attending one briefing in September 2002, but at a news conference last month, she was adamant that she did not know waterboarding was used.
"At that or any other briefing, and that was the only briefing that I was briefed on in that regard, we were not -- I repeat, we were not -- told that waterboarding or any of these other enhanced interrogation methods were used, " Pelosi said on April 23.
Some Republicans have called for Pelosi to testify at congressional hearings.
The number two House Democrat -- Majority Leader Steny Hoyer, D-Maryland -- said Tuesday, "I think the facts need to get out" regarding what members of Congress had been told about harsh interrogations.
But when asked whether Pelosi testifying would be appropriate, Hoyer did not directly answer the question, saying, "The issue is what was done. If you don't have the facts pounded on the table, they (Republicans) are pounding on the table, or they are pounding on Speaker Pelosi. Take your pick. But they are doing so as a distraction, as a distraction from what was done in this case."
This is funny. According to the CIA, high ranking Congressional Members were briefed no less then 40 times on activities being used by the CIA on prisoners. This whole thing started because Pelosi pushed for indictments against Bush, Cheney and high ranking members of the intelligence committee. Funny how things work sometimes.
PosterChild
05-13-2009, 09:41 AM
WASHINGTON (CNN) -- A source close to House Speaker Nancy Pelosi now confirms that Pelosi was told in February 2003 by her intelligence aide, Michael Sheehy, that waterboarding was actually used on CIA detainee Abu Zubaydah.
This appears to contradict Pelosi's account that she was never told waterboarding actually happened, only that the administration was considering using it.
Sheehy attended a briefing in which waterboarding was discussed in February 2003, with Rep. Jane Harman, D-California, who took over Pelosi's spot as the ranking Democrat on the House Intelligence Committee.
This source says Pelosi didn't object when she learned that waterboarding was being used because she had not been personally briefed about it -- only her aide had been told.
The source said Pelosi supported a letter that Harman sent to the administration at the time raising concerns. The source asked not to be identified because of the sensitive nature of matters discussed in classified intelligence briefings.
Pelosi admits attending one briefing in September 2002, but at a news conference last month, she was adamant that she did not know waterboarding was used.
"At that or any other briefing, and that was the only briefing that I was briefed on in that regard, we were not -- I repeat, we were not -- told that waterboarding or any of these other enhanced interrogation methods were used, " Pelosi said on April 23.
Some Republicans have called for Pelosi to testify at congressional hearings.
The number two House Democrat -- Majority Leader Steny Hoyer, D-Maryland -- said Tuesday, "I think the facts need to get out" regarding what members of Congress had been told about harsh interrogations.
But when asked whether Pelosi testifying would be appropriate, Hoyer did not directly answer the question, saying, "The issue is what was done. If you don't have the facts pounded on the table, they (Republicans) are pounding on the table, or they are pounding on Speaker Pelosi. Take your pick. But they are doing so as a distraction, as a distraction from what was done in this case."
I just love colorful metaphors.
BrAinPaiNt
05-13-2009, 11:08 AM
Pelosi pretty much deserves all the criticism she can get because she is a clown. She only makes it easier for people to criticize her.
ShiningStar
05-13-2009, 11:31 AM
Pelosi pretty much deserves all the criticism she can get because she is a clown. She only makes it easier for people to criticize her.
No, she deserves it because she brings it on herself. Being a clown is just icing on a cake she serves to the public.
sacase
05-13-2009, 11:34 AM
Here comes the dems rally wagon! LOL What tools
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0509/22439.html
Democrats: CIA is out to get us
TAGS: Congress, Senate, Dick Durbin, Democrats, Carl Levin, Dianne Feinstein, CIA
By MANU RAJU | 5/12/09 6:28 PM EDT
Dems, including Sens. Dick Durbin, Dianne Feinstein and Carl Levin, charge that the CIA has released documents about congressional briefings on waterboarding in order to deflect blame away from itself.
Photo: AP
Democrats charged Tuesday that the CIA has released documents about congressional briefings on harsh interrogation techniques in order to deflect attention and blame away from itself.
“I think there is so much embarrassment in some quarters that people are going to try to shift some of the responsibility to others — that’s what I think,” said Sen. Carl Levin (D-Mich.), who sat on the Senate Intelligence Committee and was briefed on interrogation techniques five times between 2006 and 2007.
Illinois Sen. Dick Durbin, the No. 2 Democrat in the Senate, said he finds it “interesting” that a document detailing congressional briefings was released just as “some of the groups that have been responsible for these interrogation techniques were taking the most criticism.”
burmafrd
05-13-2009, 01:19 PM
Well unless they can show those are false documents then it does not matter when they were released. BUT you once again have the libs attacking the messenger in hope that the sheep forget the message. Why stop doing what has worked so well for them?
DFWJC
05-13-2009, 01:49 PM
Of course she knew. It's comical to think otherwise.
ConcordCowboy
05-13-2009, 01:52 PM
She's lying...lets Waterboard her.
Jordan55
05-13-2009, 01:55 PM
Fw: Thought for the day
An interesting letter in the Australian Shooter Magazine this week:
If you consider that there has been an average of 160,000 troops in the
Iraq theater of operations during the past 22 months, and a total of 2112
deaths, that gives a firearm death rate of 60 per 100,000 soldiers.
The firearm death rate in Washington , DC is 80.6 per 100,000 for the same
period. That means you are about 25 per cent more likely to be shot and
killed in the US capital, which has some of the strictest gun control laws
in the US , than you are in Iraq .
Conclusion?
The US should pull out of Washington .
Yeagermeister
05-13-2009, 02:04 PM
Fw: Thought for the day
An interesting letter in the Australian Shooter Magazine this week:
If you consider that there has been an average of 160,000 troops in the
Iraq theater of operations during the past 22 months, and a total of 2112
deaths, that gives a firearm death rate of 60 per 100,000 soldiers.
The firearm death rate in Washington , DC is 80.6 per 100,000 for the same
period. That means you are about 25 per cent more likely to be shot and
killed in the US capital, which has some of the strictest gun control laws
in the US , than you are in Iraq .
Conclusion?
The US should pull out of Washington .
:bow:
bbgun
05-13-2009, 02:10 PM
You know you're in trouble when a Lib shill like Jon Stewart is making fun of you. Now we know why Congress's approval ratings were lower than W's.
ABQCOWBOY
05-13-2009, 02:13 PM
She's lying...lets Waterboard her.
CC, eventually, I knew you would come around.
:D
DFWJC
05-13-2009, 02:41 PM
She's lying...lets Waterboard her.
:rolleyes: :nolook: She saw nothing.
She heard nothing....:liarliar:
trickblue
05-13-2009, 02:47 PM
:rolleyes: :nolook: She saw nothing.
She heard nothing....:liarliar:
I'm adding an assist for me...
http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t106/OnlyObvious/misc/SgtSchultz.jpg
bbgun
05-13-2009, 02:50 PM
I'm adding an assist for me...
http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t106/OnlyObvious/misc/SgtSchultz.jpg
He could never resist Cockroach's delicious strudel. Then again, who could?
Jordan55
05-13-2009, 03:16 PM
Sold out by her own party, let the truth be told
In the rush to defend Nancy Pelosi after the Speaker lied about her knowledge of enhanced-interrogation techniques and got caught by a CIA leak in the falsehood, Dianne Feinstein offered a defense that certainly looks broad enough to cover the Bush administration as well. She insisted that Pelosi’s acceptance of waterboarding and other EITs should be considered in the context of the aftermath of 9/11 — which is, by the way, what Dick Cheney and other members of the Bush administration have said all along (via The Corner):
Senate Intelligence Committee Chairwoman Dianne Feinstein, a Democrat, backed Pelosi.
“I think it’s a tempest in a teapot really to say: Well, Speaker Pelosi should have known all of this, she should have stopped this, she should have done this or done that,” she said.
“I don’t want to make an apology for anybody, but in 2002, it wasn’t 2006, 07, 08 or 09. It was right after 9/11, and there were in fact discussions about a second wave of attacks.”
Well … yeah. In fact, that’s why the CIA and the Bush administration felt that they had to get the information they needed in a hurry. Al-Qaeda had conducted major operations against American targets at least every two to three years since the first World Trade Center attack in 1993, and in 2002-3 the presumption was that another was on its way — and apparently it was. Cheney has strongly implied that waterboarding KSM stopped a major attack on Southern California, and DNI Dennis Blair and the CIA have corroborated that in general terms.
Under those circumstances, the CIA conducted the interrogations under the purview of Congress, and specifically Nancy Pelosi, Jane Harman, Jay Rockefeller, and other Democrats as well as their Republican counterparts. Not until much later did anyone register serious objections (Jane Harman), and Pelosi refused to add her name to Harman’s memo.
Pelosi lied to keep her left-wing support in place. Feinstein tried to defend Pelosi, but this may wind up damaging both of them among the MoveOn/International ANSWER wing of the Democratic Party. At least Feinstein did the damage telling the truth.
DFWJC
05-13-2009, 04:03 PM
Nice summation Jordan55
MetalHead
05-13-2009, 08:04 PM
Pelosi pretty much deserves all the criticism she can get because she is a clown. She only makes it easier for people to criticize her.
She'll be cast in the next Batman movie as the Joker's deranged mom.
JBond
05-14-2009, 11:10 AM
She'll be cast in the next Batman movie as the Joker's deranged mom.
Like this?
http://patdollard.com/wp-content/uploads/pelosi-clown.jpg
BrAinPaiNt
05-14-2009, 11:12 AM
She'll be cast in the next Batman movie as the Joker's deranged mom.
No thanks...I would rather she get less camera time instead of more.:laugh2:
MetalHead
05-14-2009, 06:01 PM
No thanks...I would rather she get less camera time instead of more.:laugh2:
Point taken.
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