Gun Permit Questions

[Maikeru-sama]

I just had a few questions about Guns and Gun Permits.

After spending the last 7 months thinking about and finally deciding to get a house, I believe I am very close to getting my first home.

One of the things I am worried about is Crime (Home Invasions) and thinking of getting a gun permit.

1) What is all involved in getting a gun permit (price, training etc etc)?

2) What type of gun is good for keeping in a home and fairly easy to use?

I have never shot a gun, so I am a complete novice :cool: .

[Jon88]

As far as I know you don't need one for your home, just to carry around.

[CowboyFan74]

If it's just for the house all you need is a shotgun, no permit required. 12 gauge, buckshot, 18inch barrell, pistol grip. Short and compact...

[Jon88]

A 12 guage pump is your best bet.

Between me and you, you can take the plug out and it can hold more shots. PM me for the details.

[Yeagermeister]

This is all you need. Don't let the cuteness fool you. She is fierce. :D

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v316/Yeagermeister/Dog%20Pictures/Sassy2.jpg

[ScipioCowboy]

I just had a few questions about Guns and Gun Permits.

After spending the last 7 months thinking about and finally deciding to get a house, I believe I am very close to getting my first home.

One of the things I am worried about is Crime (Home Invasions) and thinking of getting a gun permit.

1) What is all involved in getting a gun permit (price, training etc etc)?

2) What type of gun is good for keeping in a home and fairly easy to use?

I have never shot a gun, so I am a complete novice :cool: .

A permit is only required if you intend to carry the gun with you in public.

If you never intend to leave home with the gun, I suggest purchasing a 12 gauge, pump action shotgun. Initially, it only hold three shots; however, if you remove the plug, it can hold 8 plus 1 in the chamber.

I recommend pump actions for two reasons:

1) They're devastating at close range. This is preferable if you're attacked by someone hopped up on PCP.

2) They make a very loud and an immediately recognizable sound when they're chambered. Quick anecdote: As a young man, my father bought a pump action shotgun for home defense because he lived in a crime-ridden neighborhood. Unfortunately, his apartment was broken into before he could also buy ammunition. When he heard the intruder, my father worked the pumping mechanism as loudly as he could. The next sound he heard was hurried footsteps running down the fire escape.

If you do intend to carry the gun in public, you should purchase a 9mm, semi automatic handgun. There's a variety of makes, and any one should do well.

Because you've never fired a gun before, I suggest taking a safety course as soon as you purchase it.

[The Ominous]

No need for firearms.

My home is fully protected by a Shaman blessed David Buehler bobble-head.

[Hostile]

I just had a few questions about Guns and Gun Permits.

After spending the last 7 months thinking about and finally deciding to get a house, I believe I am very close to getting my first home.

One of the things I am worried about is Crime (Home Invasions) and thinking of getting a gun permit.

1) What is all involved in getting a gun permit (price, training etc etc)?

2) What type of gun is good for keeping in a home and fairly easy to use?

I have never shot a gun, so I am a complete novice :cool: .Hey Mike. For protecting your home, there is nothing better than a shotgun. No one will take a chance if you have one. No one can survive a shotgun.

When you buy a handgun they will do a background check on you. I know you and you don't have a thing to worry about there. They're going to ask you why you want a handgun. I highly recommend you don't joke around when they do or say something about using it for protection even if that is the purpose.

Instead say something about wanting to learn gun safety and to get trained properly in the use of firearms.

It being your first gun I recommend a 9 mm. Take it to the ranges and learn how to use it. If you go for a concealed permit you will need to prove you can safely handle that gun.

Take time to become familiar and comfortable with the gun. It pays off.

I once read that criminals hit 1 out of every 5 shots they fire, but cops hit 4 out of 5 they fire. The difference is the cops learn their weapons and respect them. Criminals aren't disciplined enough. They point and fire indiscriminately.

[lane]

pretty sad state of affairs that one has to worry about using a gun to ward off criminals in the good ol usa.

paranoia will destroy ya.

[adamc91115]

pretty sad state of affairs that one has to worry about using a gun to ward off criminals in the good ol usa.

paranoia will destroy ya.

Better safe than sorry.

Definitely buy a shotgun for home protection. A 20 gauge pump is good for a first timer. Very easy gun to handle.

[Maikeru-sama]

Thanks for the responeses.

If I do decide to get one, it will only be used for the home. I will make sure to get the proper training before purchasing any firearm. Eventually, I would like to take my own firearm to the practice facility, is that allowed or do you have to use their firearms.

Believe me, I dont want to buy a gun, but I don't want to take the chance that one day I will regret not having one ;) .

[BrAinPaiNt]

Saiga 12 Shotgun

[tomson75]

Saiga 12 Shotgun

A Kalashnikov based automatic shotgun for about the same price as a Mossberg 500 special purpose?

Interesting.

[BrAinPaiNt]

A Kalashnikov based automatic shotgun for about the same price as a Mossberg 500 special purpose?

Interesting.

I imagine the Saiga would be a little more but I could be wrong.

[tomson75]

I imagine the Saiga would be a little more but I could be wrong.

They are, but depending on where you look, it seems as if you could get one for around 300 bucks...about what you'd pay for the Mossberg if you didn't know where to look. Looks like the Saiga would run you around 500 if you paid full price.

...but that's just what I picked up from 2 minutes of research. I could be way off.

[Hostile]

Thanks for the responeses.

If I do decide to get one, it will only be used for the home. I will make sure to get the proper training before purchasing any firearm. Eventually, I would like to take my own firearm to the practice facility, is that allowed or do you have to use their firearms.

Believe me, I dont want to buy a gun, but I don't want to take the chance that one day I will regret not having one ;) .Actually you are encouraged to bring your own firearm to most facilities. The idea is to get you familiar with your own weapon so you respect it.

In taking your gun to the facility you have to have it unloaded and in plain site. If it is a clip gun, magazine out and slide open. If it is a wheel gun, wheel open. Never transport your gun and ammo together. Put the gun on the seat in plain view or on the dashboard. Keep ammo in the trunk. This way police can never assume you have ill intentions.

Those rules change once you own a concealed weapons permit. They teach you how to inform an officer that you have a licensed weapon concealed.

There is nothing wrong with owning a gun Mike. Don't let social pressures steer you towards unreasonable stereotypes. Hundreds of thousands, even millions of us are not the lunatics anti gun agendas make us out to be.

[burmafrd]

Pump Actions do make a distinct sound and that is good- however most home invasions are by people who would not care and are so far over the edge they would keep coming anyway. My personal recomendation is a double barreled 12 gauge shotgun for this reason: You do not have to work an action to fire TWICE. A 12 GAUGE loaded with 00 shot will stop pretty much anything that will come at you with just one barrel. Also its very easy to reload- just break it open and insert the shells. True you have to reload after 2 shots but that is part of the decision to make.
Practice with it- get to know your weapon and each one is a little different. Get used to the noise and recoil.
And by the way NOTHING is more intimidating then looking down the barrel of a 12 Gauge Shotgun- especially TWO BARRELS.
One other thing- this weapon is also cheaper then a pump action.

[Maikeru-sama]

So if I have the Shotgun and the Ammo separate while on route to a Shooting Range, I don't have to have a permit for it?

As I stated, I have never owned a gun and don't really like them. However, in my apartment, there is only one entry and I live on the 3rd Floor, so I never really worry about crime.

When I get my house, there will be alot more space and alot more entry points. So if everyone else has a gun, I think it may be prudent to get me one too.

It looks like I will be moving to Murphy, TX, which is not exactly the crime captial of the world, but from my experience, your life can be at risk anywhere you live.

[MetalHead]

Go to Academy,they have good deals in home protection shotguns.
I picked up a Mossberg Maverick 12 gauge for under $200.The Home protection version from the standard one has a shorter barrell.
It's cool that those shotguns come with a nice "Made in America" sticker.
That way you just place the sticker in your back sliding door,eye level,so the fools who dare rob you will know what time it is.
If you like handguns and dont want to spend a lot,go for the Taurus 24/7 PRO...I own a .45 ACP and I love the thing.It has a 12 round mag +1 in the chamber.Or you can go for the 9mm with a 17 round capacity...man I love those things.

[Hostile]

So if I have the Shotgun and the Ammo separate while on route to a Shooting Range, I don't have to have a permit for it?

As I stated, I have never owned a gun and don't really like them. However, in my apartment, there is only one entry and I live on the 3rd Floor, so I never really worry about crime.

When I get my house, there will be alot more space and alot more entry points. So if everyone else has a gun, I think it may be prudent to get me one too.

It looks like I will be moving to Murphy, TX, which is not exactly the crime captial of the world, but from my experience, your life can be at risk anywhere you live.You should unload any gun when traveling in a car, and separate the ammunition from the weapon. That way you cannot be accused of any nefarious plans.

You do not need a permit for a shotgun at all. For a handgun you will.

If you honestly do not like guns then don't feel obligated to buy one. There are other ways you could protect your home.

A dog

An Alarm system

A Digital Surveillance system

A baseball bat

Bars on the windows

Better locks

Guns are not the only home protection solution. Millions of people survive without them. You can too.

[poke]

Hostiles prior post of other ways to protect your home is good advice.

an alarm system is a must for me here in Arlington. just as important in my mind are the signs and stickers I have in my yard and on doors and windows.

my alarm siren is so loud that when i accidentally set it off I wanna leave the house in a hurry !

i own guns and i am including a link that pretty well outlines Texas law on carrying and owning a gun here. Keep in mind that it is on Wiki, but to the best of my knowledge it is correct.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_laws_in_the_United_States_(by_state)#Texas (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_laws_in_the_United_States_%28by_state%29#Texas )

in a nutshell, in Texas you dont need a permit to own most guns. (long guns or handguns).

read the entire article about texas gun laws, in recent years new laws have been passed that give gun owners the right to carry a gun in their car without any kind of permit.

like i said I think this Wiki entry pretty accurately shows our laws.

all of the indoor gun ranges i have been to around here require you to wear eye and ear protection, if you dont have any they will rent you some.

[CowboyWay]

A permit is only required if you intend to carry the gun with you in public.

If you never intend to leave home with the gun, I suggest purchasing a 12 gauge, pump action shotgun. Initially, it only hold three shots; however, if you remove the plug, it can hold 8 plus 1 in the chamber.

I recommend pump actions for two reasons:

1) They're devastating at close range. This is preferable if you're attacked by someone hopped up on PCP.

2) They make a very loud and an immediately recognizable sound when they're chambered. Quick anecdote: As a young man, my father bought a pump action shotgun for home defense because he lived in a crime-ridden neighborhood. Unfortunately, his apartment was broken into before he could also buy ammunition. When he heard the intruder, my father worked the pumping mechanism as loudly as he could. The next sound he heard was hurried footsteps running down the fire escape.

If you do intend to carry the gun in public, you should purchase a 9mm, semi automatic handgun. There's a variety of makes, and any one should do well.

Because you've never fired a gun before, I suggest taking a safety course as soon as you purchase it.

I agree with every word of this post. Nobody on the planet doesnt recognize the sound of a shotgun being "pumped". Someone inside your house hears this, and they are GONE.

No permit required for a shotgun. Or a handgun either as long as you keep it in your home.

[burmafrd]

Cowboy a LOT of people have NEVER heard or would recognize a pump action being worked. Including druggies and crazies.

[Dallas]

For family and home protection, may I suggest the following shotgun?


The AA-12

Yes it is the worlds deadliest shotsoffun...er shotgun. :p: It is also 12ga, so you can buy ammo quickly and easily at any Wal-Mart.

p4ebtj1jR7c


http://www.wearesurvivalmachines.com/shared/images/aa12_L.jpg

[burmafrd]

Now that would probably also result in the total destruction of your home as well as the certain demise of all intruders.

[tomson75]

Man...I gotta see if my old man can hook me up with a session with one of those aa-12's.

[Hostile]

Man...I gotta see if my old man can hook me up with a session with one of those aa-12's.If he can and you can take a friend I have a ticket to the Redskins game at Fed Ex with your name on it.

I want to shoot that sucker bad. Ever since Danny White posted the original link to that video.

[tomson75]

If he can and you can take a friend I have a ticket to the Redskins game at Fed Ex with your name on it.

I want to shoot that sucker bad. Ever since Danny White posted the original link to that video.

I'm dead serious. I'll ask him tomorrow when I call him. He still has a ton of friends in important places in the military. More so in the Marines and Navy...I don't know if the Marines commissioned this bad boy or not.

Edit...they obviously did...that's a Marine shooting one in the pic above.

[burmafrd]

There have been rumors that Delta Force uses them (with that bunch nothing surprises me).

[Temo]

For family and home protection, may I suggest the following shotgun?


The AA-12

Yes it is the worlds deadliest shotsoffun...er shotgun. :p: It is also 12ga, so you can buy ammo quickly and easily at any Wal-Mart.

p4ebtj1jR7c




That looks sweet.

[MetalHead]

That looks sweet.

It certainly does.
I have fired a large variety of weapons.
Desert Eagles .50s,Benelly autoloaders,and an array of handguns.HKs,.44 Magnums,Sigmas,you name it.
Also the standard Army AR15,M60 and he M203 grenade launcher and the AT4 anti tank weapon.

The HK MP5 is a beauty...love it.

[CowboyFan74]

For family and home protection, may I suggest the following shotgun?


The AA-12

Yes it is the worlds deadliest shotsoffun...er shotgun. :p: It is also 12ga, so you can buy ammo quickly and easily at any Wal-Mart.

p4ebtj1jR7c


http://www.wearesurvivalmachines.com/shared/images/aa12_L.jpg


200yds? 175 meters? Holy freaken cow!!! We need those to clean up our borders....

[kmp77]

p4ebtj1jR7c


That's one of the coolest guns ever made. I saw that episode and my jaw dropped.

[Hostile]

I'm dead serious. I'll ask him tomorrow when I call him. He still has a ton of friends in important places in the military. More so in the Marines and Navy...I don't know if the Marines commissioned this bad boy or not.

Edit...they obviously did...that's a Marine shooting one in the pic above.Uh, don't forget a fellow cycling junkie.