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Doomsday101
12-17-2004, 12:08 PM
Believe it or not, there's only 75 days remaining until the frenzied shopping season cranks to life, and no, we're not talking about holiday gift-giving. Unless, of course, you happen to think that the highly anticipated first day of the NFL's free agency period feels a bit like unwrapping presents on Christmas morning.
Between now and March 2, the landscape of the league will go through plenty of changes, with names being subtracted from the ranks of potential free agents and contract extensions being awarded. But for now, here are the five players who we think would get the most business if they set up shop and started entertaining offers on free agency's opening day:

1. Edgerrin James, running back, Indianapolis -- Let's see now. The Colts have given the big dough to that Peyton Manning guy (seven years, $98 million), and struck a deal last week with stud receiver Marvin Harrison (seven years, $67 million). So which one of the Triplets hasn't been paid yet? That would be James, who currently leads the NFL in rushing with 1,395 yards and will be seeking his share of the loot.
Conventional wisdom says the Colts would be unwise to re-sign James and tie up so much of their salary cap on offense -- already they devote a higher percentage of their cap to that side of the ball than anyone else in the league. Especially since James' money could buy the Colts two or three quality players on defense, where Indianapolis faces the biggest challenge to its Super Bowl aspirations.
But team owner Jim Irsay is on record saying he can afford to retain all three of his glamour players on offense, and the Colts have the option of applying the franchise tag to James at the price of about $8 million in 2005. But should they? When is enough, enough on offense? Wouldn't Indy be better served to supplement its defense for once, and get by with any number of serviceable but less than spectacular running backs?
And here are the other factors that enter into the James decision: No matter what he might say for public consumption, everyone in the NFL knows James hates playing on artificial turf, is no fan of living for half the year in Indianapolis, and would love to play for Miami, where he attended college and resides in the offseason. Last we heard, the Dolphins could use a running back.

2. Drew Brees, San Diego, quarterback -- Brees certainly wasn't a preseason favorite to be on this list, because he wasn't even expected to be on the field after the Chargers obtained No. 4 pick Philip Rivers in a draft-day trade with the Giants. But a funny thing happened on the way to Brees' demotion. He caught fire starting in about Week 4, and now the soon-to-be-playoff-bound Chargers have a nice little problem on their hands.
What now appears likely is that San Diego will franchise Brees to the tune of about $9 million in 2005, and either explore trade options or retain both him and Rivers for at least one more year. There's no way given the Chargers' shaky recent quarterback history that San Diego can gamble solely on Rivers at this point and allow Brees to bolt. And it didn't hurt his standing in San Diego when star running back LaDainian Tomlinson came out last week and said he and the rest of his teammates want to see Brees as the Chargers starter in 2005.
Coming off his standout 2003 season, Seattle's Matt Hasselbeck looked like he'd be the biggest quarterbacking name in the potential free-agent pool. But with Hasselbeck regressing this season, and Brees throwing up 23 touchdowns, just six interceptions and a 102.7 rating, the fourth-year Charger would clearly be the most sought-after arm in the QB market.

3. Shaun Alexander, Seattle, running back -- What is it exactly that people don't like about Alexander? Critics say he runs a little soft at times and he can't be counted on to get the tough yards. But I say the guy's the Cris Carter of running backs: All he does is score touchdowns. In the past four seasons, Alexander has rushed for 56 touchdowns and scored 10 more via receptions. That's 66 touchdowns in 61 games, more than anyone in the NFL over that span except for Kansas City's Priest Holmes.
"The guy piles up touchdowns and yards, at least when (Seattle head coach) Mike Holmgren remembers to stick with his running game,'' said one league personnel man. "Alexander's numbers are great. You can't ignore the production.''
Not only is Alexander second in the league in rushing with 1,385 yards this season, with a gaudy 4.9-yard average carry, he has gained 5,313 yards since the beginning of 2001, and topped 1,300 yards three times in four years. He catches the ball out of the backfield (162 receptions since 2001) and rarely fumbles, losing only 10 in his first five NFL seasons. What's not to like?
Alexander may not make it to the unrestricted market, because Seattle will franchise one of their three big-name free agents -- Alexander, Hasselbeck and offensive tackle Walter Jones. Early indications are the Seahawks won't use their tag on Jones as they have in repeatedly, and Hasselbeck's disappointing season doesn't seem to warrant a franchise-level quarterback salary.

4. John Abraham, New York Jets, defensive end -- The most talented player in the Jets defensive lineup, Abraham has developed into one of the game's top five pass-rushing ends. He's got difference-making speed off the edge, a top-notch motor and he can be moved all over the field to great effectiveness. Of the Jets' celebrated four first-round picks in 2000 -- Bill Parcells' last draft with the team -- Abraham has been the most consistent and productive player.
Despite missing New York's most recent game, at Pittsburgh, Abraham is tied for eighth in the league in sacks with 9 1/2, and he has 38 1/2 sacks in his past 51 games -- from the start of 2001 on. Opponents now regularly start their game-planning against the Jets by trying to neutralize Abraham, but his combination of speed and size puts him in a class with Dwight Freeney, Julius Peppers and Simeon Rice among the NFL's finest speed rushers.
With Abraham as the centerpiece of new Jets coordinator Donnie Henderson's unit, New York's defense has dramatically improved this year, ranking seventh overall (288.6) in yards allowed, and second in points surrendered (14.8). And Abraham isn't just a pass rusher who ignores run defense. He can play the run effectively as well, and New York this season is sixth in rushing defense, giving up 101.3 yards per game.

5. Plaxico Burress, Pittsburgh, receiver -- Cincinnati's T.J. Houshmandzadeh (58 catches for 800 yards) and Carolina's Muhsin Muhammad (69 for 1,060 yards, 11 touchdowns) are free-agent-to-bes with better numbers, but neither one would draw the attention or command the salary that Burress would if he makes it to the open bidding process.
Burress has missed the past three games due to injury, and with the Steelers running the ball so effectively this season, his statistics are a ho-hum 32 catches for 601 yards and four touchdowns. But he has an eye-popping 18.8-yard average catch, and before his injury was just starting to develop a real rapport with Pittsburgh rookie quarterback Ben Roethlisberger.
At 6-5, 226 pounds, Burress has the size that NFL teams drool over. Though the underrated Hines Ward remains Pittsburgh's go-to receiver, Burress, with his ability to tower over and out-jump most every cornerback, is a rare talent who Pittsburgh no doubt wants to retain. Roethlisberger already seemed to be learning that on most routes he could throw it high and let Burress go up and get it, conjuring up shades of Randall Cunningham to Randy Moss in Minnesota in 1998.

Don Banks covers pro football for SI.com.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2004/writers/don_banks/12/17/top5.free.agents/index.html?cnn=yes

Peterman60
12-17-2004, 12:16 PM
Drew Brees, has one good season and he a top 5 FA....amazing. :rolleyes:

Doomsday101
12-17-2004, 12:17 PM
Drew Brees, has one good season and he a top 5 FA....amazing. :rolleyes:

How quick things change in this league

Portland Fanatic
12-17-2004, 12:17 PM
Drew Brees, has one good season and he a top 5 FA....amazing. :rolleyes:
I'm not buying it either...bet he chokes in playoffs....

Doomsday101
12-17-2004, 12:19 PM
I think each one of these FA are re-signed by their current teams

TheSkaven
12-17-2004, 12:20 PM
Drew Brees, has one good season and he a top 5 FA....amazing. :rolleyes:
You're talking about a league that is starving for quarterbacks.

slick325
12-17-2004, 12:21 PM
Thanks for the post Dooms. Kind of interesting that Banks mentioned the franchise tag for James, Brees, Alexander and even stated with regard to Buress "if he makes it to the open bidding process" but never mentioned the tag with Abraham. I wonder if Bryan Thomas is proving to be more than servicable and with Ellis locked up the Jets front office may entertain spending their money on the RT or giving Santana Moss an extension before he enters the final year of his contract in 2005. We'll see.

Quicksilver
12-17-2004, 12:48 PM
I resent them calling Manning, Harrison and Edge the "Triplets".

Get your own catchy moniker!

D#1Cowboyfan
12-17-2004, 12:59 PM
Let's sign Plaxico Burrees and Draft Mike Williams... Trade Quincy Morgan for a draft choice...

Thoughtz?

BrAinPaiNt
12-17-2004, 01:01 PM
I resent them calling Manning, Harrison and Edge the "Triplets".

Get your own catchy moniker!
How about the Greedy Three.

Because Two of them already have got big contracts and if the third does then they may even get worse on defense as they can't pay anyone decent.

Doomsday101
12-17-2004, 01:14 PM
How about the Greedy Three.

Because Two of them already have got big contracts and if the third does then they may even get worse on defense as they can't pay anyone decent.

I'm sure we will see both Manning and Harrison have their contracts redone many times over to make cap space, no doubt in the end it will catch up to them just as it did with Dallas.

Quicksilver
12-17-2004, 01:18 PM
I'm sure we will see both Manning and Harrison have their contracts redone many times over to make cap space, no doubt in the end it will catch up to them just as it did with Dallas.

They could always get cap advice from Danny Snyder. He seems to operate under a capless cap every offseason.

Doomsday101
12-17-2004, 01:25 PM
They could always get cap advice from Danny Snyder. He seems to operate under a capless cap every offseason.

He has a different cap than the other teams, it is the redskins rule. LOL

Chocolate Lab
12-17-2004, 01:44 PM
I'm almost positive that TJ Housmanzada was tendered as a RFA last year at his original 7th round draft choice last year...

Mattsdad
12-17-2004, 01:59 PM
I wouldnt mind seeing P. Burress here in Dallas. Thoughts?

Fletch
12-17-2004, 02:08 PM
Plaxico would make a heck of a WR for the Cowboys. I could definitely live with that.

I tell you what, the way the Cowboys are playing, I can see us losing our last three games giving us a 5-11 record and picking somewhere between 5 and 7. With that in mind, I could possibly see Mike Williams falling to #5 overall, possibly even Derrick Johnson.

How quick this thread went from free agent talk to draft talk. :banghead:

Quicksilver
12-17-2004, 02:09 PM
Plaxico would make a heck of a WR for the Cowboys. I could definitely live with that.

I tell you what, the way the Cowboys are playing, I can see us losing our last three games giving us a 5-11 record and picking somewhere between 5 and 7. With that in mind, I could possibly see Mike Williams falling to #5 overall, possibly even Derrick Johnson.

How quick this thread went from free agent talk to draft talk. :banghead:



Williams wont fall, not with Leinhart returning to USC for his senior season.

nice thought though

ghst187
12-17-2004, 03:36 PM
I resent them calling Manning, Harrison and Edge the "Triplets".

Get your own catchy moniker!

Ditto here, that's why i always root against them. It's offensive.
Last I checked, there wasn't a championship ring among them. Win a championship and then maybe we'll start allowing the comparisons to our true "triplets."

hardcorebob
12-17-2004, 04:10 PM
While reading a sports illustraded magazine (the current one with Peyton Manning on the cover) they were saying the Colts would trade E James for a 1st pick if they feel that they couldn't retain his services. I think he would be worth a first round IMO with his current talent, but with his history of knee problems, I'd think long and hard before I pulled the trigger. It would be nice to have 2 great RB's on one team, can you guys imagine that?

Natedawg44
12-17-2004, 04:11 PM
There is alot of talk about Plax, but I think Jerry Porter is a better choice. He's more explosive and could probably be had for cheaper. Plax has been a headcase at times in the past.

dbair1967
12-17-2004, 04:15 PM
would love to see us land Abraham, but it aint gonna happen...he's gonna be franchised tagged and because of his off field stuff and injury question, I wouldnt trade for him...would definitely want him if he gets to be a true UFA

David

MichaelWinicki
12-17-2004, 04:18 PM
Doom...

You :bastid:

I thought you wrote all those descriptions!

I was reading them and thought, "You know Doom is brighter than he looks... this stuff is pretty good".

Then I get to the end and find out otherwise.

(sigh).

Doomsday101
12-17-2004, 04:19 PM
Doom...

You :bastid:

I thought you wrote all those descriptions!

I was reading them and thought, "You know Doom is brighter than he looks... this stuff is pretty good".

Then I get to the end and find out otherwise.

(sigh).

I am bright (My momma told me so) but did not write the artical. LOL

MichaelWinicki
12-17-2004, 04:23 PM
I am bright (My momma told me so) but did not write the artical. LOL


Well if mom says so then I'm on board with it...

But remember Hos' mother said the same to him and we know how that turned out. ;)

Doomsday101
12-17-2004, 04:25 PM
Well if mom says so then I'm on board with it...

But remember Hos' mother said the same to him and we know how that turned out. ;)

Momma would not lie now would she? I is bright I know I is.

MichaelWinicki
12-17-2004, 04:28 PM
Momma would not lie now would she? I is bright I know I is.

LOL!

I would normally say I would have someone vouch for you like say Juke, but you are brighter than he.

I think your momma said that too! :)

Doomsday101
12-17-2004, 04:30 PM
LOL!

I would normally say I would have someone vouch for you like say Juke, but you are brighter than he.

I think your momma said that too! :)

She told me life was like a box of chocolates "If you don't eat them all up them people will take them from you"

Eskimo
12-17-2004, 04:39 PM
Let's sign Plaxico Burrees and Draft Mike Williams... Trade Quincy Morgan for a draft choice...

Thoughtz?

No, Plax. No one can deny his obvious physical gifts - top 5 of all WRs in the league. However, this guy is a serious headcase with major work ethic issues in the past. The bust potential is way, way too high for a multi-year big dollar contract.

Eskimo
12-17-2004, 04:44 PM
There is alot of talk about Plax, but I think Jerry Porter is a better choice. He's more explosive and could probably be had for cheaper. Plax has been a headcase at times in the past.

Plax has been a headcase in the recent past.

I wouldn't mind bringing in Porter as I think he can be a very good #2 WR in this league. We could ditch the waste of space Quincy Morgan.

A top 3 of Keyshawn, Porter, and Glenn could be pretty good.

My preferred solution would still be to draft Mike Williams.

I guess my real ideal would be ditching Keyshawn and going Mike Williams, Porter and Glenn - that could be a serious trio. Imagine lining up Julius, Witten, MWilliams, Porter and Glenn? Serious firepower, speed and playmaking ability in that group.

I like it - make it happen.

Eskimo
12-17-2004, 04:45 PM
Plaxico would make a heck of a WR for the Cowboys. I could definitely live with that.

I tell you what, the way the Cowboys are playing, I can see us losing our last three games giving us a 5-11 record and picking somewhere between 5 and 7. With that in mind, I could possibly see Mike Williams falling to #5 overall, possibly even Derrick Johnson.

How quick this thread went from free agent talk to draft talk. :banghead:

Plax is too much feast or famine to invest big bucks in. This guy is a serious headcase.

He'll make someone look like a genius or a retard.

Nerm
12-17-2004, 05:24 PM
No, Plax. No one can deny his obvious physical gifts - top 5 of all WRs in the league. However, this guy is a serious headcase with major work ethic issues in the past. The bust potential is way, way too high for a multi-year big dollar contract.

I agree. You can also add in the fact that he was playing opposite of Ward, who is a great WR. How often do good #2 WR's make a big impact after going to a new team to be "the man"? I don't see Plax as a great #1 WR. He has the tools, but I would hate to see Dallas spend that much on a guy who doesn't have his head on straight. He reminds me of Bryant (who I liked)... with a little more talent and a much larger cap figure.

Too much risk.

TooStupid
12-17-2004, 05:40 PM
Plax has been a headcase in the recent past.

I wouldn't mind bringing in Porter as I think he can be a very good #2 WR in this league. We could ditch the waste of space Quincy Morgan.

A top 3 of Keyshawn, Porter, and Glenn could be pretty good.

My preferred solution would still be to draft Mike Williams.

I guess my real ideal would be ditching Keyshawn and going Mike Williams, Porter and Glenn - that could be a serious trio. Imagine lining up Julius, Witten, MWilliams, Porter and Glenn? Serious firepower, speed and playmaking ability in that group.

I like it - make it happen.All that talent would be great... But 1 question, who would be airing it to them?

Eskimo
12-17-2004, 05:55 PM
All that talent would be great... But 1 question, who would be airing it to them?

As BP has deftly pointed out, you take good talent when it is available. Eventually you will put together a good, complete team by this manner.

Just go out and get the QB when one that fits your needs is available with an acceptable price tag.

My preferred solution would be for:

Vet QB in his late 20s or early 30s
Decent QB, can win you some games, won't lose you many
Doesn't cost too much
Able to step aside when Henson is ready

Someone like Kitna would be ideal if he springs loose from the Bengals. Hasselback and Brees are too young and will cost too much, IMO, because I believe Henson is the future of this franchise at QB.

If you're in the camp that doesn't want to wait on Henson, then I would suggest going hard after Hasselback if he isn't franchised. Brees carries too high of a bust risk for the contract he is likely to be rewarded. Hasselbak has played at a high level for 2.5 years, is fairly young and healthy, has good athletic ability, has a decent arm and has been able to overcome the adversity of his WRs constantly dropping his passes. He will cost you, though - probably 5-7 year deal, $15-20M signing bonus, $6-8M/yr.

TooStupid
12-17-2004, 06:07 PM
As BP has deftly pointed out, you take good talent when it is available. Eventually you will put together a good, complete team by this manner.

Just go out and get the QB when one that fits your needs is available with an acceptable price tag.

My preferred solution would be for:

Vet QB in his late 20s or early 30s
Decent QB, can win you some games, won't lose you many
Doesn't cost too much
Able to step aside when Henson is ready

Someone like Kitna would be ideal if he springs loose from the Bengals. Hasselback and Brees are too young and will cost too much, IMO, because I believe Henson is the future of this franchise at QB.

If you're in the camp that doesn't want to wait on Henson, then I would suggest going hard after Hasselback if he isn't franchised. Brees carries too high of a bust risk for the contract he is likely to be rewarded. Hasselbak has played at a high level for 2.5 years, is fairly young and healthy, has good athletic ability, has a decent arm and has been able to overcome the adversity of his WRs constantly dropping his passes. He will cost you, though - probably 5-7 year deal, $15-20M signing bonus, $6-8M/yr.
I'm definitely willing to wait for Henson because I do see potential, It just REALLY sucks in the meantime.

marsbennett
12-17-2004, 06:20 PM
Give me Hasselbeck, Abraham, and James.

marsbennett
12-17-2004, 06:24 PM
Williams wont fall, not with Leinhart returning to USC for his senior season.

nice thought though


He will not, but we can easily move up in the draft.

Eskimo
12-17-2004, 06:43 PM
He will not, but we can easily move up in the draft.

It is very hard to project where Williams would have wound up last draft, let alone this draft. There is a camp that seems to believe he is too slow and will have a hard time getting separation against NFL CBs. Then there is the other side that believes he has plenty of game speed and has such incredible ball skills and hands to go along with his size that he won't need much separation anyway.

Depending on who you asked he was rated the #1 WR down to about #5 in the last draft (Some had Fitz, Roy Williams, Reggie Williams and Clayton ahead of him from what I recall).

It will be even harder to rate him this year because no one knows how much the year out of ball has cost him. If he runs well (mid 4.5s), I think he's a top 10 for sure even with the layoff. If he runs really well (high 4.4s/low4.5s) he is a top-5. He may be a top-5 regardless of how well he runs if a GM is enamoured with him.

He is the #1 player in this draft, IMO.

Grevus
12-17-2004, 09:46 PM
1. Edgerrin James,
2. Drew Brees
3. Shaun Alexander
4. John Abraham
5. Plaxico Burress[/url][/QUOTE]


I don't want the boys to spend any money on a RB and I don't think Brees will go into FA. Abraham is the key. If the boys can somehow sign him, this would make a world of difference. I would also love to see Burress in a cowboys uniform, but it's not going to happen.

silverbear
12-18-2004, 12:06 AM
If it wasn't for football, he'd be in jail... he's a sociopath, plain and simple...

jterrell
12-18-2004, 09:28 AM
The article is cutesy and all but why bother?

What good is a list of free agents that won' be free?

Burress probably will be free because Pitt has been frugal and Burress is a bit of a whiner/malcontent. He can play but he isn't going to pass Ward as the goto guy. Pitt can simply draft a WR in round 1 or maybe even 2 and let that guy battle Randel-El for time next year.

Brees, Abraham, James? Chances are very, very high they get re-signed or tagged. Edge? Yea Edge. The Dolphins love that guy. They would gladly trade a high pick fror him. So the Colts could tag him at least long enough to get him swapped off to the Phins. Abraham? Even the GROZ knuckleheads think eh could rush the passer here under Zimmer so you know the guy is good. Teams don't let elite pass rushers wlak in free agency unless they are old. Abraham is a kiddie. And the Jets know who drafted him. They won't let him even consider leaving town.

With JUJo here we aren't gonna add Alexander.

So we are left with really just Burress to consider. I'd love to add him if the price is right but will it be? Probably not. I can't see paying him like a top 10 WR because he clearly isn't one at this point. He is very big and very skilled but he is inconsistent and whiny.

I'd rather look at the FA WRs like Jerry Porter and the Bengal mentionned in the article TJ whatisname. That TJ kid is a good returner who caught a fair share of balls this year. A nice 2/3 type who could help out the depth chart without crippling your wallet.

We won't be going CB in round 1 it appears so that means 2 other positions will be addressed. WR seeems somewhat logical as Edwards,Williams both carry round 1 grades from 5 to 20 where we should pick twice.

So in sum I'm just not sure this list helps us much. What we need is a long list of the top 30 free agents where we can targeting 20 of them. So we need a Stephen Jones article. Maybe he can use a pen name. LOL.