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SALADIN
12-19-2004, 04:53 PM
:cunning: Julius Jones and uh...ummm :huh:

let's see...we got some O-linemen who haven't played yet but ...:nervous:

and uhhhh....then there's that one guy who can play QB,WR, & KR but he seldom plays

OH YEAH! that TE who was suppose to be a hell of a blocker, what's his name? :doh:

A few CB's we can count on next year after rehabing their knee's :cry2:

canters
12-19-2004, 04:55 PM
:cunning: Julius Jones and uh...ummm :huh:

let's see...we got some O-linemen who haven't played yet but ...:nervous:

and uhhhh....then there's that one guy who can play QB,WR, & KR but he seldom plays

OH YEAH! that TE who was suppose to be a hell of a blocker, what's his name? :doh:

A few CB's we can count on next year after rehabing their knee's :cry2:
If JJ stays healthy, I think history will judge it too be a good draft. I think Rogers will play sooner or later and be a solid pro,,,same for Peterman.

SALADIN
12-19-2004, 05:06 PM
If JJ stays healthy, I think history will judge it too be a good draft. I think Rogers will play sooner or later and be a solid pro,,,same for Peterman.

Well, I guess 1 out of 7 ain't too shabby for some but for a team with so many holes it's pretty pathetic.

You may be right about Rogers but this is the same 2nd rounder who couldn't beat out a FA who wasn't even good enough to make the traveling squad.

He can ONLY get better :(

AJM1613
12-19-2004, 05:10 PM
In three seasons you will most likely have three starters (G, T and HB). Maybe four (QB).

That's a good draft.

Oh_Canada
12-19-2004, 05:13 PM
Rogers couldn't even play this week ahead of Kurt Vollers!!

How can a second round pick lineman not start over a free agent career backup type!

Gaede
12-19-2004, 05:14 PM
earlier in the year people were calling JJ a bust because he's always injured. Now that's completely changed

Drafts take more than one year to judge.

Look at the 2002 draft-and how long it took us to find out about these guys, Ross, Bryant, Gurode, Hunter (?)

canters
12-19-2004, 05:16 PM
earlier in the year people were calling JJ a bust because he's always injured. Now that's completely changed

Drafts take more than one year to judge.

Look at the 2002 draft-and how long it took us to find out about these guys, Ross, Bryant, Gurode, Hunter (?)

How true!

SALADIN
12-19-2004, 05:23 PM
In three seasons you will most likely have three starters (G, T and HB). Maybe four (QB).

That's a good draft.

Starter doesn't always equel quality. K. Garmon, A. Gurode, B. Davis, E. Ekuban, K. Larimore, and E. Bjornson were all drafted and started.

My point is here goes yet another season in which the draft picks have had little to no impact during the course of the season.

AGAIN!

Why does Lacewell still have a job?

big dog cowboy
12-19-2004, 05:31 PM
Some of you guys are killing me. We got at least 3 starters for sure maybe 4. That doesn't count anything we get out of the pick we gained from Buffalo by trading down. What happened to the "wait at least 3 years" rule for grading drafts??????

SALADIN
12-19-2004, 06:10 PM
Some of you guys are killing me. We got at least 3 starters for sure maybe 4. That doesn't count anything we get out of the pick we gained from Buffalo by trading down. What happened to the "wait at least 3 years" rule for grading drafts??????

No one ever assinged a letter grade to this draft, nor did I say that any of this years picks would be bust. Maybe someday they will develope.

But AGAIN! My point is that yet another year has past with the rookie picks contributing little to nothing to THIS YEAR. 1 out of 6 or 7 of the picks that actually contribute each of their rookie year is only part of the reason this team has been mediocure at best the last 7-8 years. And its not like they've had to beat out H.O.F.er's or All Pro's.

Maybe I'm the only one who likes Nestle Quick, instant ice tea, cup o' soup or microwave popcorn. Perhaps its just me who skips the foreplay.

Go ahead and keep your fingures crossed and hope that ONE DAY the will contribute in 3 or 4 years (like so many in the past have done :rolleyes: ). Good luck with all of that.

AJM1613
12-19-2004, 06:37 PM
If it means anything, the only rookie that is contributing on our team is a 6th round pick dimeback/punt returner, and a backup fullback.

Rookie help isn't required.

SuspectCorner
12-19-2004, 06:41 PM
how are you gonna grade a draft after eight months? sheeeesh! bet you can't wait for henson to get out there so you can proclaim the final judgment on him after a coupla passes.

SALADIN
12-19-2004, 06:43 PM
If it means anything, the only rookie that is contributing on our team is a 6th round pick dimeback/punt returner, and a backup fullback.

Rookie help isn't required.

Stay out of this AJM!!! and quit rubbing it in.

Your team is 13-1, won the confrence again, swept us again, has home field advantage through out and has been in the NFC Championship for the last 3 years.

Why the hell would the Eagles need a rookie to contribute when all the other All Pro's are getting it done?

:iggles:

Go figure out a salary cap or something

SALADIN
12-19-2004, 06:50 PM
how are you gonna grade a draft after eight months? sheeeesh! bet you can't wait for henson to get out there so you can proclaim the final judgment on him after a coupla passes.

What the hell is everyone reading? Didn't I just say that I didn't grade the draft and that the point I was making is that while these picks may develope after 3 or 4 years, the Cowboys seldom if every have any contribution from their rookie classes.

?

Am I speaking Cantonese? I stated that in 3 different post? How much more can I simplify that?

READ THE EFF'N POST AND USE YOUR COMPREHENSION SKILLS!!!

ghst187
12-19-2004, 07:22 PM
man i hope that Rogers can start at RT for us and move Tucker into the RG position for Gurode. I'd keep Gurode as back up for Allen and Tucker until we can upgrade. Tucker's natural position is Guard anyway.

SALADIN
12-19-2004, 07:27 PM
man i hope that Rogers can start at RT for us and move Tucker into the RG position for Gurode. I'd keep Gurode as back up for Allen and Tucker until we can upgrade. Tucker's natural position is Guard anyway.

I hope that someday we can use 5th and 6th round picks as back ups and use the 2nd and 3rds as QUALITY starters. Not just a body to plug into a spot.

Yeah, and what was so good about Warhop when BP brought him in? He coached an Arizona team that did what?

Who's KC's O-Line coach?

Juke99
12-19-2004, 07:28 PM
:cunning: Julius Jones and uh...ummm :huh:

let's see...we got some O-linemen who haven't played yet but ...:nervous:

and uhhhh....then there's that one guy who can play QB,WR, & KR but he seldom plays

OH YEAH! that TE who was suppose to be a hell of a blocker, what's his name? :doh:

A few CB's we can count on next year after rehabing their knee's :cry2:


An excellent use of Trick's smileys...

Well done indeed...

:bravo:

SuspectCorner
12-19-2004, 07:35 PM
What the hell is everyone reading? Didn't I just say that I didn't grade the draft and that the point I was making is that while these picks may develope after 3 or 4 years, the Cowboys seldom if every have any contribution from their rookie classes.

?

Am I speaking Cantonese? I stated that in 3 different post? How much more can I simplify that?

READ THE EFF'N POST AND USE YOUR COMPREHENSION SKILLS!!!
just the glimpse we got of julius jones (not to mention the extra 1st rounder we picked up) is enough to make me okay with the last draft. julius jones lends credence to bill parcells. i still have the utmost confidence in the coach.

SALADIN
12-19-2004, 07:46 PM
just the glimpse we got of julius jones (not to mention the extra 1st rounder we picked up) is enough to make me okay with the last draft. julius jones lends credence to bill parcells. i still have the utmost confidence in the coach.

and all I'm saying tot is that it would be nice if the draft picks who weren't hurt cracked the starting line up.

JJ, T-New, Witten, and Roy were nice although being 1st day picks you kind of expect that but just once I'd like to see a 4th, 5th, 6th or 7th surprise me.

The coaches, front office, and especially the scouting department can never seem to get it right.

Derinyar
12-19-2004, 08:16 PM
We have had a few impact rookies in the last few years. You could almost consider Al Johnson in that role this year also, due to his early injury last year.

Eventually, I think we do have the first three picks this year starting and contributions from the 4th and 5th. Ryan is getting PT now with the injuries at TE and isn't great but also isn't horrible.

I think our real problems on this team all go back to the Galloway trade and the way it made JJ overreact and reach in the next two drafts. Don't we only have one starter out of those two drafts currently on this team, or is it two? Dat looks like the only really good pick in those two years.