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BlueWave
12-20-2004, 09:17 AM
How fast people forget what Drew Henson did on the last drive of the game against the Ravens. He looked like a seasoned veteran who is ready to make the move to NFL QB. His passes were crisp and on target. His decisions were clean and correct. He managed to take the team the length of the field, without throwing an incompletion, against the best defense in the NFL, and finish the drive off with a perfect TD pass that caused Raven defenders to show a great level of disgust. Ed Reed was beside himself. They did not want that Rookie QB to score on them.

How fast people forget that Drew Henson is one of only two Rookie QB's to start and win this season in the NFL. Now, I know it might look like he won by default (it was tied), but isn't it interesting that CBS posted it on National TV Saturday that Roetholosberger was the only Rookie QB to start and win an NFL game this season. It's officially listed as a win for Henson, and he is officially a Rookie. How fast people forget.

It's funny how one subpar half of football against Chicago (not entirely on him), and every supposed NFL insider is claiming that Henson is not a franchise QB. Didn't he look like an NFL QB against the Ravens, or are we just supposed to forget that? Did his arm all of the sudden get weak. Did he all of the sudden go from the smartest QB to ever enter the NFL, to a complete moron. Did his accuracy all of the sudden go Vick? Did his great athletic ability all of the sudden disappear and leave him with Testaverde like skills?

Maybe he can't catch up with the speed of the game, right? He looked plenty caught up in Baltimore. We'll never know about Chicago because he was not given a chance to throw unless it was third and long in the face of a blitz. And, if the speed of the game is the problem, how can he fix that? Buy a Playstation? Because he sure isn't getting caught up on the sidelines. Europe? If he gos to Europe, you can mark him off as the QB next season.

As sure as I post here, I post here now...as Cowboys fans, I think it's time to get cover Hensons back. He will be the franchise QB of this team for many years to come, I'll guarantee it. The only question is, are you with him, or against him?

There is going to be a lot of so-called insiders and experts, eating a lot fo so-called crow. I will be the first one laughing. :D

Doomsday101
12-20-2004, 09:19 AM
How fast people forget what Drew Henson did on the last drive of the game against the Ravens. He looked like a seasoned veteran who is ready to make the move to NFL QB. His passes were crisp and on target. His decisions were clean and correct. He managed to take the team the length of the field, without throwing an incompletion, against the best defense in the NFL, and finish the drive off with a perfect TD pass that caused Raven defenders to show a great level of disgust. Ed Reed was beside himself. They did not want that Rookie QB to score on them.

How fast people forget that Drew Henson is one of only two Rookie QB's to start and win this season in the NFL. Now, I know it might look like he won by default (it was tied), but isn't it interesting that CBS posted it on National TV Saturday that Roetholosberger was the only Rookie QB to start and win an NFL game this season. It's officially listed as a win for Henson, and he is officially a Rookie. How fast people forget.

It's funny how one subpar half of football against Chicago (not entirely on him), and every supposed NFL insider is claiming that Henson is not a franchise QB. Didn't he look like an NFL QB against the Ravens, or are we just supposed to forget that? Did his arm all of the sudden get weak. Did he all of the sudden go from the smartest QB to ever enter the NFL, to a complete moron. Did his accuracy all of the sudden go Vick? Did his great athletic ability all of the sudden disappear and leave him with Testaverde like skills?

Maybe he can't catch up with the speed of the game, right? He looked plenty caught up in Baltimore. We'll never know about Chicago because he was not given a chance to throw unless it was third and long in the face of a blitz. And, if the speed of the game is the problem, how can he fix that? Buy a Playstation? Because he sure isn't getting caught up on the sidelines. Europe? If he gos to Europe, you can mark him off as the QB next season.

As sure as I post here, I post here now...as Cowboys fans, I think it's time to get cover Hensons back. He will be the franchise QB of this team for many years to come, I'll guarantee it. The only question is, are you with him, or against him?

There is going to be a lot of so-called insiders and experts, eating a lot fo so-called crow. I will be the first one laughing. :D

I'm a big Henson fan but the Ravens game did not mean that much when it was out of reach, I do not doubt the Ravens did not want Dallas to score but the same intensity was not there either. I do have very high hopes regarding Henson and think he will develope into a quality QB given time.

Quicksilver
12-20-2004, 09:20 AM
Great post Blue!

Im with you.....

Henson showed me NOTHING to diminish the excitment I have for the guy. I think as soon as Parcells gets out of the way, we're gonna have a franchise guy in Henson.

Doomsday101
12-20-2004, 09:21 AM
Great post Blue!

Im with you.....

Henson showed me NOTHING to diminish the excitment I have for the guy. I think as soon as Parcells gets out of the way, we're gonna have a franchise guy in Henson.

I do not think Parcells is in the way, he is being patient with Henson and allowing him the time he needs before throwing him out there.

Jimz31
12-20-2004, 09:24 AM
How fast people forget what Drew Henson did on the last drive of the game against the Ravens. He looked like a seasoned veteran who is ready to make the move to NFL QB. His passes were crisp and on target. His decisions were clean and correct. He managed to take the team the length of the field, without throwing an incompletion, against the best defense in the NFL, and finish the drive off with a perfect TD pass that caused Raven defenders to show a great level of disgust. Ed Reed was beside himself. They did not want that Rookie QB to score on them.

How fast people forget that Drew Henson is one of only two Rookie QB's to start and win this season in the NFL. Now, I know it might look like he won by default (it was tied), but isn't it interesting that CBS posted it on National TV Saturday that Roetholosberger was the only Rookie QB to start and win an NFL game this season. It's officially listed as a win for Henson, and he is officially a Rookie. How fast people forget.

It's funny how one subpar half of football against Chicago (not entirely on him), and every supposed NFL insider is claiming that Henson is not a franchise QB. Didn't he look like an NFL QB against the Ravens, or are we just supposed to forget that? Did his arm all of the sudden get weak. Did he all of the sudden go from the smartest QB to ever enter the NFL, to a complete moron. Did his accuracy all of the sudden go Vick? Did his great athletic ability all of the sudden disappear and leave him with Testaverde like skills?

Maybe he can't catch up with the speed of the game, right? He looked plenty caught up in Baltimore. We'll never know about Chicago because he was not given a chance to throw unless it was third and long in the face of a blitz. And, if the speed of the game is the problem, how can he fix that? Buy a Playstation? Because he sure isn't getting caught up on the sidelines. Europe? If he gos to Europe, you can mark him off as the QB next season.

As sure as I post here, I post here now...as Cowboys fans, I think it's time to get cover Hensons back. He will be the franchise QB of this team for many years to come, I'll guarantee it. The only question is, are you with him, or against him?

There is going to be a lot of so-called insiders and experts, eating a lot fo so-called crow. I will be the first one laughing. :D

Come on......you are going to honestly allow ONE drive against the Ravens be the determinant for you as far as being a franchise QB?

You want everybody to remember the Ravens game, but you want us to forget the Bears game?

I still have a feeling that the "franchise QB" still isn't even on this team.

No way in heck am I going to throw all of my eggs in the basket of a guy that hasn't played foorball in over 3 years.....had minimal experience in college.....and while in college, only 4 of the 8 games started would even be considered "great", as you just did.

Sorry, just ain't gonna do it.

BlueWave
12-20-2004, 09:26 AM
I'm a big Henson fan but the Ravens game did not mean that much when it was out of reach, I do not doubt the Ravens did not want Dallas to score but the same intensity was not there either. I do have very high hopes regarding Henson and think he will develope into a quality QB given time.

Did you see Ed Reed after the TD. It was obvious they did not want Henson to score.

Even if it was in an out-of-reach game, the passes were still crisp and fast, the reads were still good, showed great field management, ect. You just cannot fake that. It was an NFL game, and he drove the field. Why couldn't Testaverde drive the field, the game was essentially out of reach on his last possesion, was it not?

BlueWave
12-20-2004, 09:29 AM
You want everybody to remember the Ravens game, but you want us to forget the Bears game?

Instead, everyone is going to forget the Ravens drive, but remember the Bears game, right?

I think it falls in between, even though I think he was not put in position to succeed in the Bears game.

But, if we look at it your way, then the Ravens game meant nothing. Those passes and great plays were all but an illusion.

dbair1967
12-20-2004, 09:29 AM
.....had minimal experience in college.....and while in college, only 4 of the 8 games started would even be considered "great", as you just did.

Sorry, just ain't gonna do it.

you keep posting this in virtually every thread where Henson is mentioned, but what were his stats for all 8 games, do you have them?

What QB honestly plays "great" EVERY week? Is that how you gauge your opinion? If so you must believe everyone sux...Michigan doesnt play a sisters of the poor schedule, so having "great" games half the time would be considered a positive

also, while he only had 8 starts at Michigan he did play in ALOT more games, as he was so talanted that they had him split time with Tom Brady in alot of games

David

Doomsday101
12-20-2004, 09:30 AM
Did you see Ed Reed after the TD. It was obvious they did not want Henson to score.

Even if it was in an out-of-reach game, the passes were still crisp and fast, the reads were still good, showed great field management, ect. You just cannot fake that. It was an NFL game, and he drove the field. Why couldn't Testaverde drive the field, the game was essentially out of reach on his last possesion, was it not?

I saw the game I also know that the intensity is never the same when the game is out of reach. You can believe what you choose but the fact is it is easier for any backup QB to come in when the game is out of reach. As I said I'm a big Henson fan as well but the reality of it is it is not the same when you come into a game that is already over with.

Jimz31
12-20-2004, 09:31 AM
Did you see Ed Reed after the TD. It was obvious they did not want Henson to score.

Even if it was in an out-of-reach game, the passes were still crisp and fast, the reads were still good, showed great field management, ect. You just cannot fake that. It was an NFL game, and he drove the field. Why couldn't Testaverde drive the field, the game was essentially out of reach on his last possesion, was it not?

And why could he not do it against the Bears? Oh yeah.....he only got to throw when there was a blitz on.....that's right.

Let's just not declare him THE franchise guy right now. Let's also not write him off either. Both ways are idiotic.

ghst187
12-20-2004, 09:31 AM
I didn't think the Bears game was that bad. The Bears have a good defense and they blitzed the heck out of Henson as all defenses do to young QBs. Plus, Henson wasn't given very many pass plays. I thought the play calling opened up a lot once they brought VT into the game. I'm not a conspiracy theory guy but it looked the odds for success were much in favor of VT by way of play-calling on our part.
I still don't think Henson looked like a Rookie in that game. The guy is always composed and collected.

Jimz31
12-20-2004, 09:35 AM
you keep posting this in virtually every thread where Henson is mentioned, but what were his stats for all 8 games, do you have them?

What QB honestly plays "great" EVERY week? Is that how you gauge your opinion? If so you must believe everyone sux...Michigan doesnt play a sisters of the poor schedule, so having "great" games half the time would be considered a positive

also, while he only had 8 starts at Michigan he did play in ALOT more games, as he was so talanted that they had him split time with Tom Brady in alot of games

David

Yes, I had the stats, and you can get them as well. Go research him and see what you find.

You will be surprised at the schedule as well.

The reason that I post it is due to the FACT that everybody wants to make him out to be some guy that just tore the league up.....quite frankly, he didn't. Go research it and you tell me what you think.

Yeah, he was sooooo talented that he did NOT beat out a guy that was drafted late in the draft. Yeah Brady turned out good, but face it, he was drafted where he was for a reason. Revisionist history does no one any good.

Again, go look up who his "great" games were against and tell me if those are "cream of the crop" teams.

Jimz31
12-20-2004, 09:36 AM
you keep posting this in virtually every thread where Henson is mentioned, but what were his stats for all 8 games, do you have them?

What QB honestly plays "great" EVERY week? Is that how you gauge your opinion? If so you must believe everyone sux...Michigan doesnt play a sisters of the poor schedule, so having "great" games half the time would be considered a positive

also, while he only had 8 starts at Michigan he did play in ALOT more games, as he was so talanted that they had him split time with Tom Brady in alot of games

David

Oh yeah, and I only post them when Henson is being proclaimed the FRANCHISE guy.....when nobody knows yet if the FRANCHISE guy is even on the team at this point.

BlueWave
12-20-2004, 09:36 AM
I saw the game I also know that the intensity is never the same when the game is out of reach. You can believe what you choose but the fact is it is easier for any backup QB to come in when the game is out of reach. As I said I'm a big Henson fan as well but the reality of it is it is not the same when you come into a game that is already over with.

Your missing the enire point. Did you see the passes he threw in the game. Regardless of the defense and how intense they were or were not, he threw some major league passes on that drive. The out pattern to Keyshawn Johnson was thrown low and outside where only Johnson could catch it. It wasn't coincedense, he did it in the preseason several times as well. All QB's are taught to throw the out low and outside, only the good ones can do it consistently. It's not the first time he's been that accurate. You see, there is more to it than just the overall outcome of the drive. You have to look at every play and every pass. If you do that, you will see things that show evidence that he is going to be good.

Jimz31
12-20-2004, 09:38 AM
Your missing the enire point. Did you see the passes he threw in the game. Regardless of the defense and how intense they were or were not, he threw some major league passes on that drive. The out pattern to Keyshawn Johnson was thrown low and outside where only Johnson could catch it. It wasn't coincedense, he did it in the preseason several times as well. All QB's are taught to throw the out low and outside, only the good ones can do it consistently. It's not the first time he's been that accurate. You see, there is more to it than just the overall outcome of the drive. You have to look at every play and every pass. If you do that, you will see things that show evidence that he is going to be good.

Did you see that pass in the Bears game? It was only where the defender could catch it and run it into the end-zone. LOL. It wasn't coincidence either.....he threw INT's during the pre-season as well. Talk about accurate...the CB didn't have to make a circus catch either.....right in his bread-basket.

Yes, like you said, look at every play and every pass.

BlueWave
12-20-2004, 09:38 AM
Oh yeah, and I only post them when Henson is being proclaimed the FRANCHISE guy.....when nobody knows yet if the FRANCHISE guy is even on the team at this point.

Jimz31, would you like some mustard with that crow? I won't forget your order and I will personally see it is delivered directly to you.

Doomsday101
12-20-2004, 09:41 AM
Your missing the enire point. Did you see the passes he threw in the game. Regardless of the defense and how intense they were or were not, he threw some major league passes on that drive. The out pattern to Keyshawn Johnson was thrown low and outside where only Johnson could catch it. It wasn't coincedense, he did it in the preseason several times as well. All QB's are taught to throw the out low and outside, only the good ones can do it consistently. It's not the first time he's been that accurate. You see, there is more to it than just the overall outcome of the drive. You have to look at every play and every pass. If you do that, you will see things that show evidence that he is going to be good.

I'm not missing anything here, Henson threw some good passes in the Ravens game but again it is still different coming off the bench in a game that is out of reach than it is to come in as a starter and every QB who has played this game will say the same thing it is a different animal all together. As for this ideal that Bill set Henson up for failure in the Bears game is a load a cr@p. I think Henson will be a good QB but for god sake people need to cool their heals and show some patients

Jimz31
12-20-2004, 09:44 AM
Jimz31, would you like some mustard with that crow? I won't forget.

The only thing that I have predicted is that I don't know if the franchise guy is on the team or not.

I HOPE that he is...that would mean the search is over.

However, I am not going to put all of my eggs into ONE basket....especially considering his time away, etc.

Crow? Why the need to assume that you are either FOR or AGAINST a player? Why does everybody have to say he is IT? I won't say that he is IT until I see him play a full season and even after that one season, it's gonna be rough for a while.

BlueWave
12-20-2004, 09:45 AM
I'm not missing anything here, Henson threw some good passes in the Ravens game but again it is still different coming off the bench in a game that is out of reach than it is to come in as a starter and every QB who has played this game will say the same thing it is a different animal all together. As for this ideal that Bill set Henson up for failure in the Bears game is a load a cr@p. I think Henson will be a good QB but for god sake people need to cool their heals and show some patients

I'm not saying he set him up for failure, but Parcells sure looked smarter than everyone after that didn't he? How many times did Henson throw on first down? One time. Most of his pass plays were called on second and long and especially on third and lon in the face of an all out blitz. It's just the facts.

Let me ask you this, if you were starting a Rookie QB for the first time, and you knew the defense would come after him hard, especially on third and long situations, wouldn't you let him throw on first down a few times to help him get his feet under him? Funny how Parcells didn't see it that way, huh?

Quicksilver
12-20-2004, 09:47 AM
I do not think Parcells is in the way, he is being patient with Henson and allowing him the time he needs before throwing him out there.

yeah ok Dooms. Parcells man crush on Testes isnt getting in the way of Hensons development?

Drink up!

Jimz31
12-20-2004, 09:49 AM
yeah ok Dooms. Parcells man crush on Testes isnt getting in the way of Hensons development?

Drink up!

Of course it is. Henson or Romo should have been starting since week 7 or 8. Been saying this for awhile.

Yet, I want Henson to fail. :rolleyes: :confused: :banghead:

Doomsday101
12-20-2004, 09:50 AM
I'm not saying he set him up for failure, but Parcells sure looked smarter than everyone after that didn't he? How many times did Henson throw on first down? One time. Most of his pass plays were called on second and long and especially on third and lon in the face of an all out blitz. It's just the facts.

Let me ask you this, if you were starting a Rookie QB for the first time, and you knew the defense would come after him hard, especially on third and long situations, wouldn't you let him throw on first down a few times to help him get his feet under him? Funny how Parcells didn't see it that way, huh?

What is funny is listening to this drival your spilling. Henson will get his shot but he is not ready plain and simple and until people understand this I'm guessing I will continue to read this type of crud over and over again. I was at the Bears /Cowboys game and what hurt Henson is not being able to read and react quickly which is what led to the int for the TD, he hit the outside and waited too long before he released the ball which gave the DB ample time to read the play and make the int. Parcells did nothing in that game to handicapp Henson

Quicksilver
12-20-2004, 09:51 AM
Of course it is. Henson or Romo should have been starting since week 7 or 8. Been saying this for awhile.

Yet, I want Henson to fail. :rolleyes: :confused: :banghead:

Ive never accused you of wanting Henson to fail.

Kittymama
12-20-2004, 09:51 AM
Let's just not declare him THE franchise guy right now. Let's also not write him off either. Both ways are idiotic.

What he said. Maybe we should let him start, um, 2 or 3 games (ideally more) before we start declaring him ANYTHING (good or bad)!!! Drew Brees is in year 4, & he only now is scaring up interest.

Doomsday101
12-20-2004, 09:52 AM
yeah ok Dooms. Parcells man crush on Testes isnt getting in the way of Hensons development?

Drink up!

It looks like you have been drinking with post like this. There is no man crush on VT but Henson is not ready and that is a fact that many can't seem to deal with. Henson's time will come until then if Dallas has to go with a more established vet then they will.

Quicksilver
12-20-2004, 09:53 AM
What is funny is listening to this drival your spilling. Henson will get his shot but he is not ready plain and simple and until people understand this I'm guessing I will continue to read this type of crud over and over again. I was at the Bears /Cowboys game and what hurt Henson is not being able to read and react quickly which is what led to the int for the TD, he hit the outside and waited too long before he released the ball which gave the DB ample time to read the play and make the int. Parcells did nothing in that game to handicapp Henson

Tell me Dooms...

How many rookie QB's step on the field their first start and look "ready".

Its a process.

BlueWave
12-20-2004, 09:54 AM
What is funny is listening to this drival your spilling. Henson will get his shot but he is not ready plain and simple and until people understand this I'm guessing I will continue to read this type of crud over and over again. I was at the Bears /Cowboys game and what hurt Henson is not being able to read and react quickly which is what led to the int for the TD, he hit the outside and waited too long before he released the ball which gave the DB ample time to read the play and make the int. Parcells did nothing in that game to handicapp Henson


So a Rookie QB made a Rookie mistake. Happens all the time, to all of them. Favre still does it to this day. That one pass is reason to give up on him?

What part of what I posted is "drival"?

Doomsday101
12-20-2004, 09:54 AM
Tell me Dooms...

How many rookie QB's step on the field their first start and look "ready".

Its a process.

How many rookies where away from the game for 3 years? Playing is part of the process no doubt about it and Henson will get those chances and will be better prepaired for the fact he has not been rushed into action just to make same lame ars fan happy.

DallasKnight
12-20-2004, 09:55 AM
Come on......you are going to honestly allow ONE drive against the Ravens be the determinant for you as far as being a franchise QB?

You want everybody to remember the Ravens game, but you want us to forget the Bears game?

I still have a feeling that the "franchise QB" still isn't even on this team.

No way in heck am I going to throw all of my eggs in the basket of a guy that hasn't played foorball in over 3 years.....had minimal experience in college.....and while in college, only 4 of the 8 games started would even be considered "great", as you just did.

Sorry, just ain't gonna do it.


And you are going to let ONE half against the Bears determine whether or not Henson can be an NFL QB. Were you around Aikman's first and second years? Watching him, I had serious doubts about him too. Let Henson have time to develop before you give up on him.

I STILL think CHutch can and will be a quality NFL QB. He still needs time to develop too. We didn't give it to him, maybe the Bears will.

BlueWave
12-20-2004, 09:56 AM
How many rookies where away from the game for 3 years? Playing is part of the process no doubt about it and Henson will get those chances and will be better prepaired for the fact he has not been rushed into action just to make same lame ars fan happy.

He's been back in football for more than a year now. It's time to send that crap to pasture.

Doomsday101
12-20-2004, 09:56 AM
So a Rookie QB made a Rookie mistake. Happens all the time, to all of them. Favre still does it to this day. That one pass is reason to give up on him?

What part of what I posted is "drival"?

The ideal that a person who is never at camp is not in meeting knows that Henson is ready to be thrown to the wolfs that is the part that is drivel. Henson is not ready and it is not hard to see, he is not just a rookie QB he is a rookie QB who has been away from the game and will need ample time to get accustom to the NFL.

lcharles
12-20-2004, 09:57 AM
Ya know, in a weird kind of way, this post makes me feel better. :confused:

I just really want somebody besides Vinnie.

Quicksilver
12-20-2004, 09:58 AM
How many rookies where away from the game for 3 years? Playing is part of the process no doubt about it and Henson will get those chances and will be better prepaired for the fact he has not been rushed into action just to make same lame ars fan happy.

thats a pretty lame excuse for halting the development of a young QB.

So because he hasnt played in 3 years youre going to hold him on the sideline until he hasnt played for 5 years to let him knock the rust off?

BS!

Doomsday101
12-20-2004, 09:58 AM
He's been back in football for more than a year now. It's time to send that crap to pasture.

How do you know, your not there you do not see what the staff sees during the week, Parcells is doing what he feels is in the best interest of Henson. I do not think Parcells hates Henson are is doing anything to hinder Henson.

Doomsday101
12-20-2004, 10:00 AM
thats a pretty lame excuse for halting the development of a young QB.

So because he hasnt played in 3 years youre going to hold him on the sideline until he hasnt played for 5 years to let him knock the rust off?

BS!

Think what you want but Parcells is not just going to throw him out there because you think it is the best thing. Henson will continue to learn and be better because of it not inspite of it.

BlueWave
12-20-2004, 10:01 AM
The ideal that a person who is never at camp is not in meeting knows that Henson is ready to be thrown to the wolfs that is the part that is drivel. Henson is not ready and it is not hard to see, he is not just a rookie QB he is a rookie QB who has been away from the game and will need ample time to get accustom to the NFL.

And how do you expect him to get that "ample" time, in front of a Playstation? He's been back in football since November of 2003. It's time to get him some REAL reps so he can show the doubters what he can do.

BlueWave
12-20-2004, 10:03 AM
thats a pretty lame excuse for halting the development of a young QB.

So because he hasnt played in 3 years youre going to hold him on the sideline until he hasnt played for 5 years to let him knock the rust off?

BS!

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Doomsday101
12-20-2004, 10:04 AM
And how do you expect him to get that "ample" time, in front of a Playstation? He's been back in football since November of 2003. It's time to get him some REAL reps so he can show the doubters what he can do.

No practice and film work go a long way in perpairing a player so when he gets into the game he has a better understanding of what he is looking at. I think Parcells is doing what he feels is best for Henson but what I hear from fans is not a matter of what is best for Henson it is too prove their own stupid point of views be it for Henson or aginst Henson. Drew's time will come but until the patients needs to be shown.

BlueWave
12-20-2004, 10:06 AM
How do you know, your not there you do not see what the staff sees during the week, Parcells is doing what he feels is in the best interest of Henson. I do not think Parcells hates Henson are is doing anything to hinder Henson.

Neither do you.

What's in Parcells best interest might not be what is in our best interest. We are here for the long haul, Parcells is here for two years. As long as Henson doesn't get a chance to show what he can do, Parcells can bring in another short-term veteran for next year. A lot of good that will do us once he is gone.

BlueWave
12-20-2004, 10:08 AM
No practice and film work go a long way in perpairing a player so when he gets into the game he has a better understanding of what he is looking at. I think Parcells is doing what he feels is best for Henson but what I hear from fans is not a matter of what is best for Henson it is too prove their own stupid point of views be it for Henson or aginst Henson. Drew's time will come but until the patients needs to be shown.

Peyton Mannins says it takes ten games to get the feel for the NFL game speed. It took Eli five games to start being competitive in an NFL game, and he will be ready to win next year. Yet, you think Henson can do it by "watching film" :o .

He must really be a great one then.

Doomsday101
12-20-2004, 10:10 AM
Neither do you.

What's in Parcells best interest might not be what is in our best interest. We are here for the long haul, Parcells is here for two years. As long as Henson doesn't get a chance to show what he can do, Parcells can bring in another short-term veteran for next year. A lot of good that will do us once he is gone.

Then there is no need to continue this conversation if you think Parcells is just trying to hurt Henson, Bill traded a 3rd to get him with the plan of I want to hurt this kid? give me a break!!! There was a lot of talk from the get go that Henson would not see any action at all this year. I fully support Henson and look forward to him playing but that will happen when they feel he is ready to take on this task and not before that time. If that hacks off some fans well then so be it

Charles
12-20-2004, 10:10 AM
How fast people forget what Drew Henson did on the last drive of the game against the Ravens. He looked like a seasoned veteran who is ready to make the move to NFL QB. His passes were crisp and on target. His decisions were clean and correct. He managed to take the team the length of the field, without throwing an incompletion, against the best defense in the NFL, and finish the drive off with a perfect TD pass that caused Raven defenders to show a great level of disgust. Ed Reed was beside himself. They did not want that Rookie QB to score on them.
How easily we forget that the score was 30-3 with 10 minutes to go in the 4th Qtr when Henson took the field. Its wishful thinking to assume the Ravens were pissed or disgusted when the game was already in the books. If you really think the Ravens were still playing within their game plan then I’ll assume you didn’t watch the Ravens confuse Peyton Manning last night for 2 ½ Qtrs. If the Ravens put any effort into going after Henson in the last 10 minutes of that game it would have been ugly. They held Julius Jones to 2.7 yards per carry on 31 attempts.

How fast people forget that Drew Henson is one of only two Rookie QB's to start and win this season in the NFL. Now, I know it might look like he won by default (it was tied), but isn't it interesting that CBS posted it on National TV Saturday that Roetholosberger was the only Rookie QB to start and win an NFL game this season. It's officially listed as a win for Henson, and he is officially a Rookie. How fast people forget.
How easily you forget that a 2 time HOF head coach recognized that Henson couldn’t pick up any blitzes. He realized that Henson was in over his head and if he kept him in after the 2nd half (giving Lovie Smith a chance to adjust his defense) it would have got uglier. Parcells was right, it took only Vinny’s presence under center to make the Bears defense back-off. Henson didn’t do anything to earn that win, but infact he did the exact opposite bu giving up a INT for a TD. I don’t blame him because every young NFL Qb prospect will have their ups and downs, but making case for Henson that he won that game like Big Ben has done for the Steelers is wishful thinking. I think he’ll have to learnhow to recognize a Sam blitz before he’ll ever win a game.

It's funny how one subpar half of football against Chicago (not entirely on him), and every supposed NFL insider is claiming that Henson is not a franchise QB.
I totally agree that one subpar half of football in his 1st start after a 3 ½ year lay-off from competitive football shouldn’t be an indicator, but its also laughable that fans and mediots would anoint a QB as the franchise before he proves that he has what it takes. I guess we’ll believe anything or the mediots will say anything to get ratings or sell magazines.

Didn't he look like an NFL QB against the Ravens, or are we just supposed to forget that?
It goes both ways. Just because he sucked against the Bears doesn’t mean he won’t be a franchise QB and just because he played well against a Ravens defense in garbage time doesn’t mean he’ll be an NFL QB. Didn’t we see what happened when the Bears defense had a game plan.


Did his arm all of the sudden get weak.
Does it really matter whether his arm is strong or weak.

Did he all of the sudden go from the smartest QB to ever enter the NFL, to a complete moron. Did his accuracy all of the sudden go Vick?
Chad Hutchinson is a Stanford guy. What does smartness have to do with anything. Either he’ll learn how to play or he won’t.
Vick’s accuracy is good enough to lead an 5-11 team to a 11-3 record. Vicks accuracy in his 2nd year as a starter was good enough to go into Lambeau field in the play-offs and win a divisional play-off game. Henson shouldn’t be mentioned in the same sentence as Michael Vick, atleast not yet.


Did his great athletic ability all of the sudden disappear and leave him with Testaverde like skills?
Maybe he can't catch up with the speed of the game, right? He looked plenty caught up in Baltimore. We'll never know about Chicago because he was not given a chance to throw unless it was third and long in the face of a blitz. And, if the speed of the game is the problem, how can he fix that? Buy a Playstation? Because he sure isn't getting caught up on the sidelines. Europe? If he gos to Europe, you can mark him off as the QB next season.
Parcells is a creature of habit. If Henson beats out every QB on the roster he will start. Parcells teams are a hierarchy. Players climb their way to the top. Parcels doesn’t ANNOINT players or start players just because some fans and the media think he might be a franchise player. He has to earn it then he has to prove it.

As sure as I post here, I post here now...as Cowboys fans, I think it's time to get cover Hensons back. He will be the franchise QB of this team for many years to come, I'll guarantee it. The only question is, are you with him, or against him?

There is going to be a lot of so-called insiders and experts, eating a lot fo so-called crow. I will be the first one laughing. :D
I’ve got Henson back too, but I am realistic. He could easily become a bust. Players with better physical tools and better collegiate stats to back-up their physical abilities have failed before. I hope he gets over the hump, but reality is that franchise QBs come around once every 10-15 season for the lucky teams.
I think it’s just sad that some fans are ready to run the greatest thing (Parcells) that has happened to the Cowboys since last Superbowl out of town because he refuses to hand over the reins to a player that hasn’t earned or proven squat.

Suddenly Nick Saban is the next great thing. I bet every expert thought Steve Spurrier was going to be great.

Doomsday101
12-20-2004, 10:13 AM
Peyton Mannins says it takes ten games to get the feel for the NFL game speed. It took Eli five games to start being competitive in an NFL game, and he will be ready to win next year. Yet, you think Henson can do it by "watching film" :o .

He must really be a great one then.

Henson no doubt will run into problems and hopefully when he does get his chance we will have a better cast around him to help him out. Dallas messed up when we threw both Hutch and Carter when neither was ready, not even close to being ready and I do not want to see the same mistakes happen for the 3rd time. Henson day will come and he will be better prepaired when he does get his chance.

Woods
12-20-2004, 10:18 AM
Henson no doubt will run into problems and hopefully when he does get his chance we will have a better cast around him to help him out. Dallas messed up when we threw both Hutch and Carter when neither was ready, not even close to being ready and I do not want to see the same mistakes happen for the 3rd time. Henson day will come and he will be better prepaired when he does get his chance.

Amen.

And who knows, maybe Henson starts one of the last two games of the season.

Quicksilver
12-20-2004, 10:21 AM
How easily we forget that the score was 30-3 with 10 minutes to go in the 4th Qtr when Henson took the field. Its wishful thinking to assume the Ravens were pissed or disgusted when the game was already in the books. If you really think the Ravens were still playing within their game plan then I’ll assume you didn’t watch the Ravens confuse Peyton Manning last night for 2 ½ Qtrs. If the Ravens put any effort into going after Henson in the last 10 minutes of that game it would have been ugly. They held Julius Jones to 2.7 yards per carry on 31 attempts.

How easily you forget that a 2 time HOF head coach recognized that Henson couldn’t pick up any blitzes. He realized that Henson was in over his head and if he kept him in after the 2nd half (giving Lovie Smith a chance to adjust his defense) it would have got uglier. Parcells was right, it took only Vinny’s presence under center to make the Bears defense back-off. Henson didn’t do anything to earn that win, but infact he did the exact opposite bu giving up a INT for a TD. I don’t blame him because every young NFL Qb prospect will have their ups and downs, but making case for Henson that he won that game like Big Ben has done for the Steelers is wishful thinking. I think he’ll have to learnhow to recognize a Sam blitz before he’ll ever win a game.

I totally agree that one subpar half of football in his 1st start after a 3 ½ year lay-off from competitive football shouldn’t be an indicator, but its also laughable that fans and mediots would anoint a QB as the franchise before he proves that he has what it takes. I guess we’ll believe anything or the mediots will say anything to get ratings or sell magazines.

It goes both ways. Just because he sucked against the Bears doesn’t mean he won’t be a franchise QB and just because he played well against a Ravens defense in garbage time doesn’t mean he’ll be an NFL QB. Didn’t we see what happened when the Bears defense had a game plan.

Does it really matter whether his arm is strong or weak.

Chad Hutchinson is a Stanford guy. What does smartness have to do with anything. Either he’ll learn how to play or he won’t.
Vick’s accuracy is good enough to lead an 5-11 team to a 11-3 record. Vicks accuracy in his 2nd year as a starter was good enough to go into Lambeau field in the play-offs and win a divisional play-off game. Henson shouldn’t be mentioned in the same sentence as Michael Vick, atleast not yet.


Parcells is a creature of habit. If Henson beats out every QB on the roster he will start. Parcells teams are a hierarchy. Players climb their way to the top. Parcels doesn’t ANNOINT players or start players just because some fans and the media think he might be a franchise player. He has to earn it then he has to prove it.

I’ve got Henson back too, but I am realistic. He could easily become a bust. Players with better physical tools and better collegiate stats to back-up their physical abilities have failed before. I hope he gets over the hump, but reality is that franchise QBs come around once every 10-15 season for the lucky teams.
I think it’s just sad that some fans are ready to run the greatest thing (Parcells) that has happened to the Cowboys since last Superbowl out of town because he refuses to hand over the reins to a player that hasn’t earned or proven squat.

Suddenly Nick Saban is the next great thing. I bet every expert thought Steve Spurrier was going to be great.

How easily you forget that your avatar should be burned.

How easily you forget that Ive forgoten anything you said. :confused:

wileedog
12-20-2004, 10:21 AM
Come on......you are going to honestly allow ONE drive against the Ravens be the determinant for you as far as being a franchise QB?

You want everybody to remember the Ravens game, but you want us to forget the Bears game?

I still have a feeling that the "franchise QB" still isn't even on this team.

No way in heck am I going to throw all of my eggs in the basket of a guy that hasn't played foorball in over 3 years.....had minimal experience in college.....and while in college, only 4 of the 8 games started would even be considered "great", as you just did.

Sorry, just ain't gonna do it.

I'm intrigued enough by the Raven's game and Drew's past history to say that Drew deserves the shot. I also have nothing against Romo, and he should be in the mix as well - competition is always good.

I'm realistic enough about the Bears game to realize that while Drew has that dreaded 'potential', he still is a ways away from being ready to be a starting QB in this league. That's why I'm ok with Bill taking the kid gloves approach with him this season.

Either way, wasting a high round pick on a QB this draft when the team has so many other glaring needs is not the right way to go this offseason IMO (if that's what you are implying about your eggs in the basket). Drew has been scouted to be as good or better than anyone coming out this year, there's no reason not to try and build around him as much as possible and hope he succeeds - just like any other young, talented QB.

Get a better vet backup than Vinny, works Drew's arse off this offseason, and give him the ball in TC next year.

jdnalls
12-20-2004, 10:26 AM
Did you see that pass in the Bears game? It was only where the defender could catch it and run it into the end-zone. LOL. It wasn't coincidence either.....he threw INT's during the pre-season as well. Talk about accurate...the CB didn't have to make a circus catch either.....right in his bread-basket.

Yes, like you said, look at every play and every pass.
Wow, your right. Henson finished pre-season 21 of 33 for 217 yards AND 1 INT. Man, that's just horrible play from Henson. :rolleyes:

Charles
12-20-2004, 10:30 AM
How easily you forget that Ive forgoten anything you said. :confused:
Why am I not surprised. Forgetfulness and confusion classic symptoms of :drunk:

BlueWave
12-20-2004, 10:36 AM
How easily we forget that the score was 30-3 with 10 minutes to go in the 4th Qtr when Henson took the field. Its wishful thinking to assume the Ravens were pissed or disgusted when the game was already in the books. If you really think the Ravens were still playing within their game plan then I’ll assume you didn’t watch the Ravens confuse Peyton Manning last night for 2 ½ Qtrs. If the Ravens put any effort into going after Henson in the last 10 minutes of that game it would have been ugly. They held Julius Jones to 2.7 yards per carry on 31 attempts.

Did you even watch the game. Did you not see the reaction of the Ravens defense when a Rookie QB drove the length of the field and scored on them. You, my friend are assuming incorrectly.


How easily you forget that a 2 time HOF head coach recognized that Henson couldn’t pick up any blitzes. He realized that Henson was in over his head and if he kept him in after the 2nd half (giving Lovie Smith a chance to adjust his defense) it would have got uglier. Parcells was right, it took only Vinny’s presence under center to make the Bears defense back-off. Henson didn’t do anything to earn that win, but infact he did the exact opposite bu giving up a INT for a TD. I don’t blame him because every young NFL Qb prospect will have their ups and downs, but making case for Henson that he won that game like Big Ben has done for the Steelers is wishful thinking. I think he’ll have to learnhow to recognize a Sam blitz before he’ll ever win a game.

Maybe if you 2 time HOF HC would have thrwon on first down a few times, he wouldn't have had to pick up the blitz on every play. And just how do you expect a young QB to learn to pick up a blitz without seeing the field and getting experience. Done wonders for Eli, and he'll be ready next year. We, well we will still be trying to figure out our QB situation.

I totally agree that one subpar half of football in his 1st start after a 3 ½ year lay-off from competitive football shouldn’t be an indicator, but its also laughable that fans and mediots would anoint a QB as the franchise before he proves that he has what it takes. I guess we’ll believe anything or the mediots will say anything to get ratings or sell magazines.

They do it all the time. Nothing new here. Doesn't mean he shouldn't get a shot to prove it one way or another, before idiots like Irvin try to proclaim him as a loss.

It goes both ways. Just because he sucked against the Bears doesn’t mean he won’t be a franchise QB and just because he played well against a Ravens defense in garbage time doesn’t mean he’ll be an NFL QB. Didn’t we see what happened when the Bears defense had a game plan.

Only on third and long.


Does it really matter whether his arm is strong or weak.

Yes it does. If it didn't, there would be a lot of unemployed football scouts around the world.

Chad Hutchinson is a Stanford guy. What does smartness have to do with anything. Either he’ll learn how to play or he won’t.

Have you seen Aaron Brooks play lately. You can have all the physical tools in the world, if you don't have it in the head, you will never reach the ultimate goal. Dumb QB's don't win championships.

Vick’s accuracy is good enough to lead an 5-11 team to a 11-3 record. Vicks accuracy in his 2nd year as a starter was good enough to go into Lambeau field in the play-offs and win a divisional play-off game. Henson shouldn’t be mentioned in the same sentence as Michael Vick, atleast not yet.

I love it, another Vick "proclaimer". The guy completes 30% of his passes so far in his career, and he is considered a great QB. He has worse numbers than Harrington, and they are calling Harrington a bust. Oh, you say he does it by running? When was the last time a QB won a championship in the NFL by running. This isn't Conference USA. There is a reason teams don't run the option. I'm willing to bet Tomlinson could complete 30% of his passes and run for 60 yards a game of more if you moved him to QB, but do you think he could win a championship at QB? If you gave Vick a 10 shots at the side of a barn, he'd hit it 3 times. Let's see how well he runs at age 30, especially with the way he gets hit.

Parcells is a creature of habit. If Henson beats out every QB on the roster he will start. Parcells teams are a hierarchy. Players climb their way to the top. Parcels doesn’t ANNOINT players or start players just because some fans and the media think he might be a franchise player. He has to earn it then he has to prove it.


That's obvious, his habits are named Richie Anderson, Vinny Tesaverde, Dedric Ward.......great habits to have. :o


I’ve got Henson back too, but I am realistic. He could easily become a bust. Players with better physical tools and better collegiate stats to back-up their physical abilities have failed before. I hope he gets over the hump, but reality is that franchise QBs come around once every 10-15 season for the lucky teams.
I think it’s just sad that some fans are ready to run the greatest thing (Parcells) that has happened to the Cowboys since last Superbowl out of town because he refuses to hand over the reins to a player that hasn’t earned or proven squat.

And playing a 41 year old QB who will be long gone soon is the answer? Can't tell if he is a franchise QB unless he plays.

tyke1doe
12-20-2004, 11:08 AM
I think what we can deduce from the Ravens game is that Henson has skills. With a little time and experience, he may be able to make a quantum leap in his ability to lead this team.

The fact that Ravens defenders were "mad" tells us nothing about their intensity necessarily. It's quite possible to relax or let up and still think that even playing at a monicum of your talent you should be able to defeat someone.

And then to get "mad" when you don't.

The Bears game was a better indication of what to expect of Henson. The Ravens didn't blitz Henson like the Bears did, primarily because a team generally "calls of the dogs" when they're comfortably in the lead and because the Ravens get good pressure with their front four.

If Henson were to start, he can expect to see a defensive game similar to the Bears game than the Ravens game.

Still, the Ravens game gave us a glimpse of what Henson could do. But also remember Chad Hutchinson also beat the Redskins during his first season with the Cowboys. I guess that showed us he was destined for greatness. :rolleyes:

BlueWave
12-20-2004, 11:12 AM
I think what we can deduce from the Ravens game is that Henson has skills. With a little time and experience, he may be able to make a quantum leap in his ability to lead this team.

The fact that Ravens defenders were "mad" tells us nothing about their intensity necessarily. It's quite possible to relax or let up and still think that even playing at a monicum of your talent you should be able to defeat someone.

And then to get "mad" when you don't.

The Bears game was a better indication of what to expect of Henson. The Ravens didn't blitz Henson like the Bears did, primarily because a team generally "calls of the dogs" when they're comfortably in the lead and because the Ravens get good pressure with their front four.

If Henson were to start, he can expect to see a defensive game similar to the Bears game than the Ravens game.

Still, the Ravens game gave us a glimpse of what Henson could do. But also remember Chad Hutchinson also beat the Redskins during his first season with the Cowboys. I guess that showed us he was destined for greatness. :rolleyes:

The Bears game was flawed in the fact that Henson was not given the opportunity to pass the ball on QB friendly downs (first down and ten). Now I'm not going to debate why, but you throw any Rookie into a game and consistently put him in situation where he will be blitzed and blitzed hard, and he will not look good. You be the judge of why the plays were called that way, but, the only way to get a better read is more playing time.

OLDSCHOOL
12-20-2004, 11:50 AM
Come on......you are going to honestly allow ONE drive against the Ravens be the determinant for you as far as being a franchise QB?

You want everybody to remember the Ravens game, but you want us to forget the Bears game?

I still have a feeling that the "franchise QB" still isn't even on this team.

No way in heck am I going to throw all of my eggs in the basket of a guy that hasn't played foorball in over 3 years.....had minimal experience in college.....and while in college, only 4 of the 8 games started would even be considered "great", as you just did.

Sorry, just ain't gonna do it.


You are right the QB we will eventually draft and develop into a franchise QB is not on the team yet.

OLDSCHOOL
12-20-2004, 11:52 AM
I saw the game I also know that the intensity is never the same when the game is out of reach. You can believe what you choose but the fact is it is easier for any backup QB to come in when the game is out of reach. As I said I'm a big Henson fan as well but the reality of it is it is not the same when you come into a game that is already over with.


Dooms, you are banging your head against a brick wall, that guy is not listening

Charles
12-20-2004, 11:54 AM
Did you even watch the game. Did you not see the reaction of the Ravens defense when a Rookie QB drove the length of the field and scored on them. You, my friend are assuming incorrectly.
Yes I watched the game. I live in the DC area. I get to watch all of the ravens games. I listen to there post game shows. I watch there local Pre game shows. I read there local papers. Basically I'll assume I am more informed about the Ravens than you are. They get pissed every time someone scores a TD on them. Just because Ed Reed might have been mad about a TD drive late in garbage time doesn't mean Henson has proven he's a franchise type QB. Heath Shuler had a great TD drive against the '95 Cowboys defense in a victory for the Redskins against the Boys at Texas Stadium.

One drive doesn't make a QB.



Maybe if you 2 time HOF HC would have thrwon on first down a few times, he wouldn't have had to pick up the blitz on every play. And just how do you expect a young QB to learn to pick up a blitz without seeing the field and getting experience. Done wonders for Eli, and he'll be ready next year. We, well we will still be trying to figure out our QB situation.
Bluewave questioning Parcells decisions. Everyone is entitled to their opinions. But everyone can't back it up with the credentials Parcells has earned. Howie Long said it best. If I want to know how to invest money I'll go to jerry Jones, If I want to learn how to build and rebuild 4 franchises over a 20 year span I'll go to Bill Parcells, if I wan to see blind faith in a player who hasn't proven squat or earned squat I'll read Bluwaves posts on the QB position in Dallas.



They do it all the time. Nothing new here. Doesn't mean he shouldn't get a shot to prove it one way or another, before idiots like Irvin try to proclaim him as a loss.
Of course the media annoint players all the time. It doesn't chane the fact that prospects still have to EARN and PROVE IT. it's not rocket science. It takes simple common sense.


Yes it does. If it didn't, there would be a lot of unemployed football scouts around the world.
And Joe Montana who fell to the 3rd Rd would have never found employment. Weak armed Chad Pennington would be backing up strong armed Quincy Carter. :cool:


Have you seen Aaron Brooks play lately. You can have all the physical tools in the world, if you don't have it in the head, you will never reach the ultimate goal. Dumb QB's don't win championships.
I agree they win 4 SuperBowl Championships and get to act even dumber on Sunday Morning Football shows.


I love it, another Vick "proclaimer". The guy completes 30% of his passes so far in his career, and he is considered a great QB. He has worse numbers than Harrington, and they are calling Harrington a bust. Oh, you say he does it by running? When was the last time a QB won a championship in the NFL by running. This isn't Conference USA. There is a reason teams don't run the option. I'm willing to bet Tomlinson could complete 30% of his passes and run for 60 yards a game of more if you moved him to QB, but do you think he could win a championship at QB? If you gave Vick a 10 shots at the side of a barn, he'd hit it 3 times. Let's see how well he runs at age 30, especially with the way he gets hit.

Interesting phenomenon.

Blind faith for a player that hasn't done squat.

Infact, Vick has completed 53.8% of his passes. I am not surprised you would exxaggerate to prove a stupid point. that is a 20% shave :D

Trashing a player that has earned the respect of many in the NFL. Trashing the stats of a player that has proven he can win in most hostile environment against a HOF QB. Quaterbacking does not mean pretty stats. Quaterbacking is leading an offense to a Victory one way or the other. Even the great John Elway needed a great run to seal his first SuperBowl Victory (see the helicopter spin to pick up a 1st down).

You have some serious issues bro.




That's obvious, his habits are named Richie Anderson, Vinny Tesaverde, Dedric Ward.......great habits to have. :o

And playing a 41 year old QB who will be long gone soon is the answer? Can't tell if he is a franchise QB unless he plays.
If Henson is not good enough to surplant Vinny, then tough luck. Henson will have the entire off-season to get his game together. if he earnes the starting spot then he'll have to prove hehas what it takes to keep it. That has been Parcells style. He doesn't give handouts. Cream will rise to the top. If Henson is a franchise type QB then why are you worried. Parcells wants to win. If Henson proves he gives Parcells the best chance to win then he'll get his shot after he's earned it.

Don't you want Henson to earn then prove he has what it takes?

OLDSCHOOL
12-20-2004, 12:05 PM
Man, this thread was hilarious, especially the fellas that believe Henson should be playing right now.

The guy is not ready, he has a whole lot of catching up to do. When he had his chance he showed the NFL world that he was not close to being ready.

His play in preseason was bad, in the Bears game it was bad, too. That last drive against the Ravens? If anyone is hanging their hat on that drive they are %*&&^

Quicksilver
12-20-2004, 12:09 PM
Man, this thread was hilarious, especially the fellas that believe Henson should be playing right now.

The guy is not ready, he has a whole lot of catching up to do. When he had his chance he showed the NFL world that he was not close to being ready.

His play in preseason was bad, in the Bears game it was bad, too. That last drive against the Ravens? If anyone is hanging their hat on that drive they are %*&&^

you'll be laughing too in a couple of weeks when Drew is starting.

Jimz31
12-20-2004, 01:43 PM
Wow, your right. Henson finished pre-season 21 of 33 for 217 yards AND 1 INT. Man, that's just horrible play from Henson. :rolleyes:

JD....seriously, have you been reading from the beginning. My post was a "mirror" post. The exact same thing that he said, just in reverse and nothing was untrue about it.

I never said that he DID play horrible.

Just saying quit declaring him THE man. Just like people should quit saying that he ISN'T.

Doomsday101
12-20-2004, 02:16 PM
Dooms, you are banging your head against a brick wall, that guy is not listening

Oldschool, I'm one who has high hopes for Henson and I'm not writing him off as you seem to be doing. I guess I fall between the 2 sides on this issue. I think Henson can develope into a quality QB but it is going to take some time and if in the meantime Dallas feels the need to bring in a vet QB to run things then do it. I'm in no hurry to rush Henson into the mix his time will come and I think he will be better off because he was not rushed into action.

OLDSCHOOL
12-20-2004, 04:48 PM
you'll be laughing too in a couple of weeks when Drew is starting.


hahahaha, I sure will be laughing if he is starting in a couple of weeks. He can start all he wants for the Cowboys flag football team, in a couple of weeks, the season will be over by one week.

This weekend, and the next, we are done. By your post he'll be starting on the 9th of Jan.

Hahahaha, I'll be watching.

HTownCowboysFan
12-20-2004, 06:04 PM
What a load of crap.

I was at the game, and the Raven were playing so vanilla on D, that I could have jumped out of the stands, suited up, and led the team to at least a first down. They were so disinterested it was beyond pathetic.

With that said, I hope beyond all hope that he is "The Man." But he is NOT ready to play and I fear that he is another "Chutch."

How fast people forget what Drew Henson did on the last drive of the game against the Ravens. He looked like a seasoned veteran who is ready to make the move to NFL QB. His passes were crisp and on target. His decisions were clean and correct. He managed to take the team the length of the field, without throwing an incompletion, against the best defense in the NFL, and finish the drive off with a perfect TD pass that caused Raven defenders to show a great level of disgust. Ed Reed was beside himself. They did not want that Rookie QB to score on them.

How fast people forget that Drew Henson is one of only two Rookie QB's to start and win this season in the NFL. Now, I know it might look like he won by default (it was tied), but isn't it interesting that CBS posted it on National TV Saturday that Roetholosberger was the only Rookie QB to start and win an NFL game this season. It's officially listed as a win for Henson, and he is officially a Rookie. How fast people forget.

It's funny how one subpar half of football against Chicago (not entirely on him), and every supposed NFL insider is claiming that Henson is not a franchise QB. Didn't he look like an NFL QB against the Ravens, or are we just supposed to forget that? Did his arm all of the sudden get weak. Did he all of the sudden go from the smartest QB to ever enter the NFL, to a complete moron. Did his accuracy all of the sudden go Vick? Did his great athletic ability all of the sudden disappear and leave him with Testaverde like skills?

Maybe he can't catch up with the speed of the game, right? He looked plenty caught up in Baltimore. We'll never know about Chicago because he was not given a chance to throw unless it was third and long in the face of a blitz. And, if the speed of the game is the problem, how can he fix that? Buy a Playstation? Because he sure isn't getting caught up on the sidelines. Europe? If he gos to Europe, you can mark him off as the QB next season.

As sure as I post here, I post here now...as Cowboys fans, I think it's time to get cover Hensons back. He will be the franchise QB of this team for many years to come, I'll guarantee it. The only question is, are you with him, or against him?

There is going to be a lot of so-called insiders and experts, eating a lot fo so-called crow. I will be the first one laughing. :D

Hostile
12-20-2004, 08:26 PM
How fast people forget what Drew Henson did on the last drive of the game against the Ravens. He looked like a seasoned veteran who is ready to make the move to NFL QB. His passes were crisp and on target. His decisions were clean and correct. He managed to take the team the length of the field, without throwing an incompletion, against the best defense in the NFL, and finish the drive off with a perfect TD pass that caused Raven defenders to show a great level of disgust. Ed Reed was beside himself. They did not want that Rookie QB to score on them.

How fast people forget that Drew Henson is one of only two Rookie QB's to start and win this season in the NFL. Now, I know it might look like he won by default (it was tied), but isn't it interesting that CBS posted it on National TV Saturday that Roetholosberger was the only Rookie QB to start and win an NFL game this season. It's officially listed as a win for Henson, and he is officially a Rookie. How fast people forget.

It's funny how one subpar half of football against Chicago (not entirely on him), and every supposed NFL insider is claiming that Henson is not a franchise QB. Didn't he look like an NFL QB against the Ravens, or are we just supposed to forget that? Did his arm all of the sudden get weak. Did he all of the sudden go from the smartest QB to ever enter the NFL, to a complete moron. Did his accuracy all of the sudden go Vick? Did his great athletic ability all of the sudden disappear and leave him with Testaverde like skills?

Maybe he can't catch up with the speed of the game, right? He looked plenty caught up in Baltimore. We'll never know about Chicago because he was not given a chance to throw unless it was third and long in the face of a blitz. And, if the speed of the game is the problem, how can he fix that? Buy a Playstation? Because he sure isn't getting caught up on the sidelines. Europe? If he gos to Europe, you can mark him off as the QB next season.

As sure as I post here, I post here now...as Cowboys fans, I think it's time to get cover Hensons back. He will be the franchise QB of this team for many years to come, I'll guarantee it. The only question is, are you with him, or against him?

There is going to be a lot of so-called insiders and experts, eating a lot fo so-called crow. I will be the first one laughing. :DOutstanding post.

My faith in how good Henson will be has never wavered. Not even Parcells psychological games will change that.