Will Roy Not Tackle Like This Anymore?

[Encore]

I'm not sure if he's been told that he put another NFL Player out for the rest of the season, but will it start to get to him that he'll have to let up someone or try to tackle another way? Or will he just not care and still do what he does?

I'm afraid he'll become even more soft now. I still believe he doesn't try as hard because of Kelly Rowland. What pissed me off was during the T-Day game the annoucers said after the game he was playing host to 20-30 people for dinner. Well, In the back of his mind he knows that so he probably tried not to deliever any hits that would get him hurt, so he wouldn't miss the dinner or be in to much pain to enjoy it.

Thoughts?

[Derinyar]

I think Roy is an old school football player. I hope he wouldn't think about that stuff while hes on the field, and doubt that he does.

[Doomsday101]

I'm not sure if he's been told that he put another NFL Player out for the rest of the season, but will it start to get to him that he'll have to let up someone or try to tackle another way? Or will he just not care and still do what he does?

I'm afraid he'll become even more soft now. I still believe he doesn't try as hard because of Kelly Rowland. What pissed me off was during the T-Day game the annoucers said after the game he was playing host to 20-30 people for dinner. Well, In the back of his mind he knows that so he probably tried not to deliever any hits that would get him hurt, so he wouldn't miss the dinner or be in to much pain to enjoy it.

Thoughts?

I think Roy plays football and will bring a guy down anyway he can, him getting married I do not think has anything to do with what he does or does not do on the field.

[Dave_in-NC]

Injuries are part of the profession. Roy will make his living doing it any way he has to. Does he feel bad about it? I'm sure.

[Dangerous Dave]

[QUOTE=Encore]I'm not sure if he's been told that he put another NFL Player out for the rest of the season, but will it start to get to him that he'll have to let up someone or try to tackle another way? Or will he just not care and still do what he does?

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I'm sure he's worried sick that he MUST let up :muttley: :iggles:

[Dallas]

I'm not sure if he's been told that he put another NFL Player out for the rest of the season, but will it start to get to him that he'll have to let up someone or try to tackle another way? Or will he just not care and still do what he does?

I'm afraid he'll become even more soft now. I still believe he doesn't try as hard because of Kelly Rowland. What pissed me off was during the T-Day game the annoucers said after the game he was playing host to 20-30 people for dinner. Well, In the back of his mind he knows that so he probably tried not to deliever any hits that would get him hurt, so he wouldn't miss the dinner or be in to much pain to enjoy it.

Thoughts?


Thoughts? Really? Ok here is my thought. We could care less about Kelly and Roy and your feelings for them. This is the damned NFL and not some soap opera.

You dont even know the man yet you want to assume this will make him soft. You people need to realize this is a tough game and folks do get hurt. So what he drug the guy down by his shoulder pads. @#$% happens. Its not illegal to do so yet here you are crying nonsense about it. Some of you even made reference that he could be doing it intentionally.

:rolleyes:

[Doomsday101]

[QUOTE=Encore]I'm not sure if he's been told that he put another NFL Player out for the rest of the season, but will it start to get to him that he'll have to let up someone or try to tackle another way? Or will he just not care and still do what he does?

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I'm sure he's worried sick that he MUST let up :muttley: :iggles:

What is he doing? Guys get hurt, Roy plays physical, football is a physical game. He did not cheap shot TO he made a last ditch effort to bring TO down before he could get away for what could have been a hugh play for the eagles.

[jbz64]

It's not Roy's fault T.O.'s cleat got stuck on the turf. Roy just grabbed him anyway he could and that was from behind his pads.

[Doomsday101]

If someone want to talk cheapshot watch the tape of the Jacksonville/Green Bay game. The clothesline hit Donovin Darius put on Ferguson was clearly a cheapshot. Memories of Daryl Stingly went through my head when I saw that hit.

[diehard2294]

just pure instincts, he's done it before and if he compromises he will miss the tackle. I thought he pulled up on McNabb 's second run of the TD drive. I was pissed he did that.

[Banned_n_austin]

Roy will tackle hard like that all the time.

What's the matter with you?

Why even ask a question like that?

You get praised for making tackles like that.

There's even a term for it, it's called "making plays".

[Everlastingxxx]

Coles and Portis better just get down if they get within a 5 foot radius of Roy.

[twa]

It is footballl,people get hurt all the time ,you play all out or get off the field.I understand injuries, both I and my son have been injured playing,you take that risk everytime you strap on the pads.ROY is a PLAYER :iggles:

[THEHEREAFTER]

Thoughts? Really? Ok here is my thought. We could care less about Kelly and Roy and your feelings for them. This is the damned NFL and not some soap opera.

You dont even know the man yet you want to assume this will make him soft. You people need to realize this is a tough game and folks do get hurt. So what he drug the guy down by his shoulder pads. @#$% happens. Its not illegal to do so yet here you are crying nonsense about it. Some of you even made reference that he could be doing it intentionally.

:rolleyes:

Thankyou... couldn't have said it better :iggles: :skins:

[Fletch]

PLEASE! Did Ronnie Lott ever take plays off and lighten up just because someone got injured by one of his tackles? I think not.

Roy is a warrior and arguably the best safety in the game. No way does he p****-foot around because he happened to hurt someone. It's a game where injuries occur.

[ghst187]

I imagine the answer to the original question or premise of the thread is "no." I don't think Roy will let up more. However with the political correctness and sesitivity (gayness) of the league now, they may try to modify the rules again and make them even worse than they are.
Remember, its a great play for a player to take out another one and makes all the highlight reels, however when its one of the league's favorites, its a tragedy and the rules should be changed (see Peyton Manning and his WRs getting manhandled in the playoffs last year then whining to the rules committee.)
So, I'm anxious to see if there's any fallout rule-wise from Roy's handicapping BO.

[boysfanindc]

What a waste of a thread, to suggest Roy did anything wrong is crazy, to suggest it will some how effect his game is more crazy and to suggest his relationship has anything to do with anything is well.

Never mind. :eek:

[Cbz40]

UMMMMMMMMMMM!!!! I guess we will be hearing next that the NFL should be turned into a Flag Football League.

Considering the rules for Defending WR's it almost has. :banghead:

[Nerm]

I don't think that Roy can feel bad about what he did. He just pulled the guy to the ground.

I hope Roy just thinks that all WR's should do what Pinkston did when Roy was around. Just don't try to catch the ball. Thats what all good DBs should think.

[Zman5]

Tell the WRs that if they don't want to get injured they should stop and just go down once they see Roy comming.


Isn't that the advice K. Johnson gave his cousin Chad?

[jay cee]

Thoughts? Really? Ok here is my thought. We could care less about Kelly and Roy and your feelings for them. This is the damned NFL and not some soap opera.

You dont even know the man yet you want to assume this will make him soft. You people need to realize this is a tough game and folks do get hurt. So what he drug the guy down by his shoulder pads. @#$% happens. Its not illegal to do so yet here you are crying nonsense about it. Some of you even made reference that he could be doing it intentionally.

:rolleyes:


He may not be intentionally hurting the guys, but he is intentionally pulling them down like that. I personally don't like to see him do that, but it is not illegal.

[Dallas]

He may not be intentionally hurting the guys, but he is intentionally pulling them down like that. I personally don't like to see him do that, but it is not illegal.


Personally. I hope he lays wood on every play and could care less if he knocks the stuffing out of some fool WR who is running the slant.


Knock his spleen out his teeth. Win us the blasted ballgame brother. :D

[scottsp]

Sorry folks, but we have people who want the players to wear flags. Might that even get a tad rough?

The players shall also enjoy a nice cup of tea at the half. Makes you feel all warm inside. Mmmmmmm.

Bill Cowher (in the Steeler locker room at the half): Okay guys, nice first half. We will get to our adjustments in a sec. But first things first.... Who's up for some orange pekoe?!

[5 Super Bowls]

I'm not sure if he's been told that he put another NFL Player out for the rest of the season, but will it start to get to him that he'll have to let up someone or try to tackle another way? Or will he just not care and still do what he does?

I'm afraid he'll become even more soft now. I still believe he doesn't try as hard because of Kelly Rowland. What pissed me off was during the T-Day game the annoucers said after the game he was playing host to 20-30 people for dinner. Well, In the back of his mind he knows that so he probably tried not to deliever any hits that would get him hurt, so he wouldn't miss the dinner or be in to much pain to enjoy it.

Thoughts?

Big reach IMO

I watched Darren pull up on a hit last year that he probably would have been fined for had he gone through with it. I don't like the way this league is going. Too many panty wastes too me.

BTW
I went to a dove hunt this year and the host asked everyone if they wanted a pad to protect their shoulder.

Those that said yes had to wear a Maxi Pad on their shoulder until dinner. Pretty much the same thing this league is turning into. :banghead:

[phdefense]

Big reach IMO

I watched Darren pull up on a hit last year that he probably would have been fined for had he gone through with it. I don't like the way this league is going. Too many panty wastes too me.

BTW
I went to a dove hunt this year and the host asked everyone if they wanted a pad to protect their shoulder.

Those that said yes had to wear a Maxi Pad on their shoulder until dinner. Pretty much the same thing this league is turning into. :banghead:

So do you believe that football players should not wear pads or helmets either?

[Zman5]

He may not be intentionally hurting the guys, but he is intentionally pulling them down like that. I personally don't like to see him do that, but it is not illegal.


Isn't that what he is paid to do? Stop other players from advancing once he gets hold of them.

How else are you supposed to do that once you get hold of a 220lb guy from behind who's running full speed?

[5 Super Bowls]

So do you believe that football players should not wear pads or helmets either?

That wouldn't bother me.

Never Happen

I think a part of the reason some of the injuries occur on big hits is because with good equipment you can deliver a hit without getting hurt.

But on a serious note the illegal contact crap has to go and the head hunting has to go, but a solid hit should not be punished. Ronnie Lott would have lost money playing football these days. JMO

[scottsp]

Isn't that what he is paid to do? Stop other players from advancing once he gets hold of them.

How else are you supposed to do that once you get hold of a 220lb guy from behind who's running full speed?

You tag him. Touch him and say, "YOU'RE IT!" And then he gives the ball to you! Then you run with it!

Doesn't that sound much better? The game is way too violent. These big boys should frolic instead.

[jay cee]

Personally. I hope he lays wood on every play and could care less if he knocks the stuffing out of some fool WR who is running the slant.


Knock his spleen out his teeth. Win us the blasted ballgame brother. :D


Yeah, I'm right with you on that. I love to see those big hits. It's that little pull down tackle that he likes to use when he can't get the big hit that's been causing the more serious injuries.

[jay cee]

Isn't that what he is paid to do? Stop other players from advancing once he gets hold of them.

How else are you supposed to do that once you get hold of a 220lb guy from behind who's running full speed?


That's not the only way to make tackles. It is actually not a very good technique to use. Roy can get away with it because he has such strong hands. It's the same tackle that he was trying when Chris Brown stiff armed him to the ground against the Titans.

Sometimes it's the only play you can make, I remember when Bo Jackson got pulled down like that, it ended his career. But it was really the only chance the defender had to get him down. It is usually done as a desperation move by the defender.

But Williams does it when he can use other more sure tackling techniques. Like I said in another thread Calico was almost out of bounds when Williams pulled him down, a push out of bounds would have been just as effective.

[Tuna Helper]

Yeah, I'm sure Roy loses sleep over TO's injury while he ponders what he could have done differently. :rolleyes:

Let's just put a skirt on TO and convert the game to flag football.

I would actually feel bad for TO, but the Irvin incident makes me realize that this is a slight equalizer.

Besides, the bastid danced on our star at midfield. Payback is a !

[Fletch]

Yeah, I'm sure Roy loses sleep over TO's injury while he ponders what he could have done differently. :rolleyes:

Let's just put a skirt on TO and convert the game to flag football.

I would actually feel bad for TO, but the Irvin incident makes me realize that this is a slight equalizer.

Besides, the bastid danced on our star at midfield. Payback is a !

Good post!

[Zman5]

That's not the only way to make tackles. It is actually not a very good technique to use. Roy can get away with it because he has such strong hands. It's the same tackle that he was trying when Chris Brown stiff armed him to the ground against the Titans.

Sometimes it's the only play you can make, I remember when Bo Jackson got pulled down like that, it ended his career. But it was really the only chance the defender had to get him down. It is usually done as a desperation move by the defender.

But Williams does it when he can use other more sure tackling techniques. Like I said in another thread Calico was almost out of bounds when Williams pulled him down, a push out of bounds would have been just as effective.

When you are chasing someone who is big and running at full speed, only sure thing you can do is grab what you can and try to stop their foward progress anyway you can until you can bring them down or slow them down enough until help arrives.

Trying to push someone out of bounds isn't "more sure tackling" techniques when you are chasing someone.

[Dangerous Dave]

What is he doing? Guys get hurt, Roy plays physical, football is a physical game. He did not cheap shot TO he made a last ditch effort to bring TO down before he could get away for what could have been a hugh play for the eagles.

Doomsday, I was trying to be sarcastic. There was no cheap shot. RW dragged TO down and TO's leg got caught underneath him. Those are the breaks. (no pun intended)

I actually think RW made a tremendous play to stop him from breaking(again no pun intended) a long one.

[Doomsday101]

Doomsday, I was trying to be sarcastic. There was no cheap shot. RW dragged TO down and TO's leg got caught underneath him. Those are the breaks. (no pun intended)

I actually think RW made a tremendous play to stop him from breaking(again no pun intended) a long one.

I agree on Roy tackle nothing cheapshot about it on the other hand what happened to Ferguson in the GB/Jack was a cheapshot

[InmanRoshi]

Most NFL Players are married, and I'm sure most of the Cowboys were having T-Day festivities with their families after the game.

I don't see how Roy is so unique, other than he's marrying a celebrity so people care about it more (for some reason).

[Danny White]

Looking at the play, I think if Roy had not made that tackle, TO could have gone all the way. TO routinely breaks out of half-hearted tackles and then is off to the races. Coming from behind the way he was, it was the only really effective tackle Roy could have made.

But looking at the play, Shanle fell down, and Greg Lewis blocked Frazier on his butt and Lewis looked like he was in position to block Nguyen as well. If Roy had whiffed on the tackle I think TO would have made it to the corner and been dancing in the endzone.

It was a very good tackle.

[Aikmaniac]

Looking at the play, I think if Roy had not made that tackle, TO could have gone all the way. TO routinely breaks out of half-hearted tackles and then is off to the races. Coming from behind the way he was, it was the only really effective tackle Roy could have made.

But looking at the play, Shanle fell down, and Greg Lewis blocked Frazier on his butt and Lewis looked like he was in position to block Nguyen as well. If Roy had whiffed on the tackle I think TO would have made it to the corner and been dancing in the endzone.

It was a very good tackle.

Very true.

BTW, why aren't any of the NFL analysts talking about this "questionable" tackle? Because it's football and that's what you're paid to do. It was just a freak accident.

[jay cee]

When you are chasing someone who is big and running at full speed, only sure thing you can do is grab what you can and try to stop their foward progress anyway you can until you can bring them down or slow them down enough until help arrives.
I agree. That's why Williams looked like an idiot for trying that technique on Chris Brown while coming in from the side rather than chasing him from behind.

He had every opportunity to drive into, wrap up and take Brown down. He instead tried that technique that is usually only used in desperation, and allowed Brown to stiff arm him down to the ground.

Trying to push someone out of bounds isn't "more sure tackling" techniques when you are chasing someone.
Again we agree, but when the guy is heading out of bounds at full speed, I would guess that you are less likely to cause him a season ending injury. And there was no way Calico was a threat to score on that play, so it's not like Williams was desperately trying to make a touchdown saving tackle.

Don't think that I was posting this as an attack on Williams. I would have loved to see him knock TO out with a big hit. I'm just not a fan of that technique. But I also realize sometimes you have to get the guy down anyway you can.