This is Funny and Scary at the Same Time

[Hostile]

I have a sister-in-law whose father is a 90 year old rancher. Not former rancher, rancher. He still gets up and works every single day.

He is a very good man, but he is kind of no nonsense. He will tell you exactly what he thinks even if it hurts your feelings. If he doesn't like your clothes, he will tell you. If he thinks something is stupid he will say so. In other words he is not too afraid to say exactly what he thinks even if it causes an uproar.

He is also a staunch conservative Republican.

Apparently that is exactly what happened last week. He answered the phone and it was a political survey. Several of the questions had to do with President Obama. Let me just say that he was less than kind about the President. I don't want to go into specifics because it might offend someone.

The next day twp Secret Service Agents knocked on his door and he was questioned at length for a couple of hours before they determined that this 90 year old man was no threat to the President. He just doesn't like him.

Be careful how you answer surveys.

[JBond]

Did he make threats or just voice his displeasure with Obama? It would be a sad day if the SS is investigating people just because the believe Obama is an ***.

[vta]

He is a very good man, but he is kind of no nonsense. He will tell you exactly what he thinks even if it hurts your feelings. If he doesn't like your clothes, he will tell you. If he thinks something is stupid he will say so. In other words he is not too afraid to say exactly what he thinks even if it causes an uproar.


I like him already.

The next day twp Secret Service Agents knocked on his door and he was questioned at length for a couple of hours before they determined that this 90 year old man was no threat to the President. He just doesn't like him.

Be careful how you answer surveys.

That's ****ing despicable.

[Rackat]

I like him already.



That's ****ing despicable.
Agreed on both counts.

[zrinkill]

I am not surprised.

I have heard some scary things.

[ABQCOWBOY]

Can't ever happen in America. That's not what this administration is about.

It's amazing to me how things happen and people seem to look the other way. One day you wake up and before you know it, your living in a brave new world but it can't happen to us. That's not what this is all about.

The worm has turned.

[Sam I Am]

I have a sister-in-law whose father is a 90 year old rancher. Not former rancher, rancher. He still gets up and works every single day.



Thats just like my grandfather. He is 90 and has had Ephazma for 10 years, yet he still ranches and mows every single acre of his land with a tractor, builds / re-builds fences and porches.

He is a no nonsense guy too, but he is a very hard man and not very nice one at that. I know nothing of his political status, (if he even has one) but I'm sure he doesn't like Obama. No need to even ask that.

I saw him about a month ago when I was in Dallas to see my other grandfather (much better man) before he passed away. It was the first time I have seen him in 16 years. It took my dad some serious arm twisting to get me to go.

[Hostile]

Did he make threats or just voice his displeasure with Obama? It would be a sad day if the SS is investigating people just because the believe Obama is an ***.What he said was interpreted as a threat. I am not sure his exact words, but I am told he was asked what he thought of President Obama, and he replied in some version that he wished Obama would die. He did not say he'd like to kill him or anything like that. It's kind of hard for me to fathom them needing 2 hours to question a 90 year old man as to whether he was a serious threat to the President. He hasn't left his home town to drive more than 30 miles in 5 years.

Like I said, he minces no words.

[arglebargle]

Can't ever happen in America. That's not what this administration is about.

It's amazing to me how things happen and people seem to look the other way. One day you wake up and before you know it, your living in a brave new world but it can't happen to us. That's not what this is all about.

The worm has turned.

If you think this hasn't been happening for a while now, you have not been paying attention.

Not to mention that there are always some real dangers out there, and the Secret Service, by definition, is manned by paranoids....

[joseephuss]

What he said was interpreted as a threat. I am not sure his exact words, but I am told he was asked what he thought of President Obama, and he replied in some version that he wished Obama would die. He did not say he'd like to kill him or anything like that. It's kind of hard for me to fathom them needing 2 hours to question a 90 year old man as to whether he was a serious threat to the President. He hasn't left his home town to drive more than 30 miles in 5 years.

Like I said, he minces no words.

Maybe SS just hung out with him for 2 hours. They have their formal questions that they have to ask, but that doesn't mean they spent the whole 2 hours grilling him. Maybe they all sat around for 2 hours drinking coffee or whiskey.

I am pretty sure that when you use terms like "I wish he was dead" that it is going to raise some flags. It may just be standard operating procedure that they have to do some sort of follow up. It doesn't matter who is in office, either. I am sure the same things happened when Bush, Clinton, the elder Bush and so on and so on were in office. I remember stories of people being arrested at Bush rallies wearing t-shirts with a line through the W and stories about people being arrested at Clinton rallies while he was in office. It happens.

It sounds silly and in this specific case it really is silly, but their job is to protect the president. Unless they do some sort of follow up how are they supposed to tell which ones are non threats and which ones may be actual threats.

[JBond]

What he said was interpreted as a threat. I am not sure his exact words, but I am told he was asked what he thought of President Obama, and he replied in some version that he wished Obama would die. He did not say he'd like to kill him or anything like that. It's kind of hard for me to fathom them needing 2 hours to question a 90 year old man as to whether he was a serious threat to the President. He hasn't left his home town to drive more than 30 miles in 5 years.

Like I said, he minces no words.

Good thing Obama does not allow water boarding. I will not be the least surprised if the SS starts visiting people for what they write on the internet. I remember Google was complicit with the Chinese during the crack down before the Olympics. We know how tight Obama and google are.

[Wheat]

What he said was interpreted as a threat. I am not sure his exact words, but I am told he was asked what he thought of President Obama, and he replied in some version that he wished Obama would die. He did not say he'd like to kill him or anything like that. It's kind of hard for me to fathom them needing 2 hours to question a 90 year old man as to whether he was a serious threat to the President. He hasn't left his home town to drive more than 30 miles in 5 years.

Like I said, he minces no words.

You 100% sure he didn't say something that involved killing him? I mean, I don't want to suggest he would mean it. But my Granny is 96. Some of the stuff she says would have been generally accept 50 years ago. But today seems downright racist and really dangerous if she wasn't overall a sweet sweet lady.

[TheCount]

What he said was interpreted as a threat. I am not sure his exact words, but I am told he was asked what he thought of President Obama, and he replied in some version that he wished Obama would die. He did not say he'd like to kill him or anything like that. It's kind of hard for me to fathom them needing 2 hours to question a 90 year old man as to whether he was a serious threat to the President. He hasn't left his home town to drive more than 30 miles in 5 years.

Like I said, he minces no words.

:laugh2::laugh2::laugh2:

Well there's being honest and there's that, I wonder (but doubt) if it was overheard on the phone line or whether he was "reported" by the people taking surveys.

[ABQCOWBOY]

If you think this hasn't been happening for a while now, you have not been paying attention.

Not to mention that there are always some real dangers out there, and the Secret Service, by definition, is manned by paranoids....

Perhaps, but let me just point out that their were no shortage of people who wished death on GW on a daily basis. If you think that their feet were held to the fire, OK. That's fine but I did not see it.

This man did not make a threat. He was called in his own home and asked what his opinion was. If he said, "I wish he would die.", does it not seem odd that the SS would show up on his door step?

[arglebargle]

Perhaps, but let me just point out that their were no shortage of people who wished death on GW on a daily basis. If you think that their feet were held to the fire, OK. That's fine but I did not see it.

This man did not make a threat. He was called in his own home and asked what his opinion was. If he said, "I wish he would die.", does it not seem odd that the SS would show up on his door step?

Apparantly you missed some of the shenanigans with government detractors getting on the 'no fly' list. And I have heard of people who publicly voiced certain statements getting a visit from the SS twenty years ago.

I don't disagree that it's a little worrisome, but this sort of thing has gone on for quite a while now. With modern methods of intelligence gathering, it can be done so much more easilly. It's also easier to have something mis-reported as a threat.

Also, I do agree that the SS probably knew within ten or twenty minutes that this was a wild goose chase, but they had to pad their time numbers for the accountants. I can easilly imagine the rancher in question to be a pretty entertaining guy to interview as well.

[Wheat]

Perhaps, but let me just point out that their were no shortage of people who wished death on GW on a daily basis. If you think that their feet were held to the fire, OK. That's fine but I did not see it.

This man did not make a threat. He was called in his own home and asked what his opinion was. If he said, "I wish he would die.", does it not seem odd that the SS would show up on his door step?

You are 100% sure of that? You checked the transcript and that's all that said.?

Jeez, again. He's from a few generations ago. Stuff that is said might not seem like a big deal to him, and a lot of others. But if you took away the face and the voice and only looked at the words. You might read something that gets this type of reaction.

[BrAinPaiNt]

I remember the Secret Service came to our town and not only visited with a local, but took the local away for a few days for questioning before letting him go.

This guy was a Doctor that sent a pretty salty letter to the President and apparently the SS took it very serious.

This was when W was president.

Either way, the Secret Service has a job to do and with Ronny getting shot some years ago, with abortion Drs getting killed, with other political situations leading to murder and bombings over the years...I would rather the Secret Service be a little paranoid.

I would also say that it is not wise to send nasty gram letters (with possibly threats) or take surveys and wish death on someone like the POTUS and expect not to get questioned on it...if they did not question, they would not be doing their jobs.

Stupid is and Stupid does IMO.

[ABQCOWBOY]

You are 100% sure of that? You checked the transcript and that's all that said.?

Jeez, again. He's from a few generations ago. Stuff that is said might not seem like a big deal to him, and a lot of others. But if you took away the face and the voice and only looked at the words. You might read something that gets this type of reaction.

So, are you saying that because he's old, he probably said something other then what has been outlined in this thread?

I'm basing this off what Hos has reported. I have never known Hos to tell less then the truth so I am inclinded to believe what he has posted. Could he be in error? Sure, that's always a possability for anyone but it is my opinion that what has been relayed is probably more accurate then not.

You can say that I'm believing what I want to believe, hearing what I want to hear. It's your judgement to make.

I have no reason not to believe Hos. I guess it's a matter of perspective. I see things that you are not seeing.

[Wheat]

I remember the Secret Service came to our town and not only visited with a local, but took the local away for a few days for questioning before letting him go.

This guy was a Doctor that sent a pretty salty letter to the President and apparently the SS took it very serious.

This was when W was president.

Either way, the Secret Service has a job to do and with Ronny getting shot some years ago, with abortion Drs getting killed, with other political situations leading to murder and bombings over the years...I would rather the Secret Service be a little paranoid.

I would also say that it is not wise to send nasty gram letters (with possibly threats) or take surveys and wish death on someone like the POTUS and expect not to get questioned on it...if they did not question, they would not be doing their jobs.

Stupid is and Stupid does IMO.

Its an ugly world out there. That's for sure. Its a world where another old man with a criminal past walked into the holocaust museum downtown and opened fire. I'm sure they would have loved to have stopped him, and not hassled this other gentleman. But, when you have 300 million people. You follow your leads. I am guessing he wasn't arrested, and never had a criminal past either. So, no harm. No foul.

[DIAF]

Apparantly you missed some of the shenanigans with government detractors getting on the 'no fly' list. And I have heard of people who publicly voiced certain statements getting a visit from the SS twenty years ago.

I don't disagree that it's a little worrisome, but this sort of thing has gone on for quite a while now. With modern methods of intelligence gathering, it can be done so much more easilly. It's also easier to have something mis-reported as a threat.

Also, I do agree that the SS probably knew within ten or twenty minutes that this was a wild goose chase, but they had to pad their time numbers for the accountants. I can easilly imagine the rancher in question to be a pretty entertaining guy to interview as well.

Yeah, you always hear of 1 or 2 of these stories on national news every year or so no matter who was president. Usually they get on the news because it was either a kid or someone's little old grandma or something. No telling how many times it actually happens. If you just google "Bush threat secret service", you'll find a bunch of similar incidents, including one involving rapper Eminem.

So yeah, other people did have their feet held to the fire.

Bottom line: don't be dumb enough to say something like that out loud in public.

[Wheat]

So, are you saying that because he's old, he probably said something other then what has been outlined in this thread?

I'm basing this off what Hos has reported. I have never known Hos to tell less then the truth so I am inclinded to believe what he has posted. Could he be in error? Sure, that's always a possability for anyone but it is my opinion that what has been relayed is probably more accurate then not.

You can say that I'm believing what I want to believe, hearing what I want to hear. It's your judgement to make.

I have no reason not to believe Hos. I guess it's a matter of perspective. I see things that you are not seeing.


I'm saying that older folks have a knack for saying things that aren't socially acceptable a lot more than younger folks. I used my own grandmother as an example.

How easily can "I wish he was dead" turn into "I wish somebody would kill him"?

I am not doubting Hos at all. He's been an awesome Mod and poster. I'm just saying that phrasing and tense can change a meaning quickly and he probably said something that on paper looks very dangerous.

[ABQCOWBOY]

I'm saying that older folks have a knack for saying things that aren't socially acceptable a lot more than younger folks. I used my own grandmother as an example.

How easily can "I wish he was dead" turn into "I wish somebody would kill him"?

I am not doubting Hos at all. He's been an awesome Mod and poster. I'm just saying that phrasing and tense can change a meaning quickly and he probably said something that on paper looks very dangerous.

How sure are you that what you outline has occured? They call you up and ask for your opinion. He didn't seek a venu from which to pulpit. I wish he was dead or I wish somebody would kill him are not different to me. You make a distinction between, wishing somebody dropped dead as opposed to wishing somebody would kill him?

No. I don't see it.

[TheCount]

The best part is that I'm sure this guy that already wishes the President would drop dead is now absolutely convinced Obama is out to get him. Getting a visit from the SS probably didn't ease his dislike for the man.

[ABQCOWBOY]

The best part is that I'm sure this guy that already wishes the President would drop dead is now absolutely convinced Obama is out to get him. Getting a visit from the SS probably didn't ease his dislike for the man.

That's probably true Count.

[joseephuss]

I remember the Secret Service came to our town and not only visited with a local, but took the local away for a few days for questioning before letting him go.

This guy was a Doctor that sent a pretty salty letter to the President and apparently the SS took it very serious.

This was when W was president.

Either way, the Secret Service has a job to do and with Ronny getting shot some years ago, with abortion Drs getting killed, with other political situations leading to murder and bombings over the years...I would rather the Secret Service be a little paranoid.

I would also say that it is not wise to send nasty gram letters (with possibly threats) or take surveys and wish death on someone like the POTUS and expect not to get questioned on it...if they did not question, they would not be doing their jobs.

Stupid is and Stupid does IMO.

I would think the SS will still act on questionable letters sent to W even now that he is out of office. That goes for the other former presidents as well. It doesn't always make it right, but they have done it in the past and will continue to do it.

[Wheat]

How sure are you that what you outline has occured? They call you up and ask for your opinion. He didn't seek a venu from which to pulpit. I wish he was dead or I wish somebody would kill him are not different to me. You make a distinction between, wishing somebody dropped dead as opposed to wishing somebody would kill him?

No. I don't see it.

You've never heard somebody say "I hope somebody gives him "his""? I don't think an old man was visited for nothing. By MISTAKE he PROBABLY said something that again, looked worse than it was. That's it. Even in retelling the story, he probably didn't remember the exact phrasing of what he said.

[joseephuss]

How sure are you that what you outline has occured? They call you up and ask for your opinion. He didn't seek a venu from which to pulpit. I wish he was dead or I wish somebody would kill him are not different to me. You make a distinction between, wishing somebody dropped dead as opposed to wishing somebody would kill him?

No. I don't see it.

We don't know what was really said. At least not 100% word for word. I trust Hos, but he heard the story after the fact. It is possible something in the story was changed before they told him. It is the whole purple elephants thing. You whisper something in one persons ear, they turn and repeat it in the next ear and so on and when you get to the end the story is slightly altered.

Or maybe it is just much simpler than that. Maybe they just check on all people that use the words dead and president in the same sentence. This means I will now get a visit from the SS and so will others on this board.

[ABQCOWBOY]

You've never heard somebody say "I hope somebody gives him "his""? I don't think an old man was visited for nothing. By MISTAKE he PROBABLY said something that again, looked worse than it was. That's it. Even in retelling the story, he probably didn't remember the exact phrasing of what he said.

I think we've been over this. I see something you clearly do not.

This doesn't seem hard.

[ABQCOWBOY]

We don't know what was really said. At least not 100% word for word. I trust Hos, but he heard the story after the fact. It is possible something in the story was changed before they told him. It is the whole purple elephants thing. You whisper something in one persons ear, they turn and repeat it in the next ear and so on and when you get to the end the story is slightly altered.

Or maybe it is just much simpler than that. Maybe they just check on all people that use the words dead and president in the same sentence. This means I will now get a visit from the SS and so will others on this board.

Maybe. The fact of the matter is that he did not go out and call somebody to declare this. They called him and he gave his opinion. I can't see how that is wrong.

[JBond]

I would think the SS will still act on questionable letters sent to W even now that he is out of office. That goes for the other former presidents as well. It doesn't always make it right, but they have done it in the past and will continue to do it.

I lived down the street from Nixon in Saddle River NJ. They shut down the entire block when some nut job tried to break into his house. Turned out he was just a common punk and had no idea who's house he was trying to break into. By the way Nixon was an excellent neighbor. Never saw or heard a peep from his place.

[JBond]

Maybe. The fact of the matter is that he did not go out and call somebody to declare this. They called him and he gave his opinion. I can't see how that is wrong.

The message is be nice to the telemarketers. They may have connections.

[joseephuss]

Maybe. The fact of the matter is that he did not go out and call somebody to declare this. They called him and he gave his opinion. I can't see how that is wrong.

I agree. Like I said, I don't think what the SS did in this specific case is right, but they have done similar things in the past. It is not something new or unheard of.

[Wheat]

I agree. Like I said, I don't think what the SS did in this specific case is right, but they have done similar things in the past. It is not something new or unheard of.

Agreed.

We don't know what he said. They felt it was dangerous. They checked it out.

Done and Done.

[ABQCOWBOY]

I agree. Like I said, I don't think what the SS did in this specific case is right, but they have done similar things in the past. It is not something new or unheard of.

I guess we will see.

[TheCount]

The message is be nice to the telemarketers. They may have connections.

Yes, people taking political surveys may indeed have political connections. Crazy, right?

[joseephuss]

I guess we will see.

Indeed we shall. In fact I ratted you out, so you should be getting a visit pretty soon. Let us all know how it goes. :p:

[ABQCOWBOY]

Indeed we shall. In fact I ratted you out, so you should be getting a visit pretty soon. Let us all know how it goes. :p:

Not a problem. If they want to know what I think of this administration, they better have way more then two hours to kill.

[Maikeru-sama]

I bet this type of stuff happens all the time, under any administration.

[Aikbach]

When i was in college a Waco Homicide Detective, a Texas Ranger and a Secret Service detective all called me on the same day.

An acquaintance of mine had a fight with his melodramatic girlfriend who called the police on him, they searched his computer on account of what I guess amounted to email "harassment" because the verbal spat was on-line.

Anyhow on his desktop they found a "Hit list" which was obviously either a joke or a sarcastic way of venting because on this list was:

Brad Pitt, his girlfriend, President Bush, myself and a couple of other people and celebrities in the news.

Given Baylor University's proximity to Crawford and President Bush's regular presence in the region and on campus this was not taken lightly and the subsequent investigation launched by law enforcement.

Its semi-humorous as what assassin would assemble a hit list that consisted of the President and then proceeded to me-- still i was a little alarmed that a guy i barely knew had designated me to a hit list, private joke or otherwise.

[joseephuss]

When i was in college a Waco Homicide Detective, a Texas Ranger and a Secret Service detective all called me on the same day.

An acquaintance of mine had a fight with his melodramatic girlfriend who called the police on him, they searched his computer on account of what I guess amounted to email "harassment" because the verbal spat was on-line.

Anyhow on his desktop they found a "Hit list" which was obviously either a joke or a sarcastic way of venting because on this list was:

Brad Pitt, his girlfriend, President Bush, myself and a couple of other people and celebrities in the news.

Given Baylor University's proximity to Crawford and President Bush's regular presence in the region and on campus this was not taken lightly and the subsequent investigation launched by law enforcement.

Its semi-humorous as what assassin would assemble a hit list that consisted of the President and then proceeded to me-- still i was a little alarmed that a guy i barely knew had designated me to a hit list, private joke or otherwise.

Most assassins are not stable minded, so it would not be surprising that any hit list they would generate would seem rather humorous in a dark, weird way.

[Wheat]

When i was in college a Waco Homicide Detective, a Texas Ranger and a Secret Service detective all called me on the same day.

An acquaintance of mine had a fight with his melodramatic girlfriend who called the police on him, they searched his computer on account of what I guess amounted to email "harassment" because the verbal spat was on-line.

Anyhow on his desktop they found a "Hit list" which was obviously either a joke or a sarcastic way of venting because on this list was:

Brad Pitt, his girlfriend, President Bush, myself and a couple of other people and celebrities in the news.

Given Baylor University's proximity to Crawford and President Bush's regular presence in the region and on campus this was not taken lightly and the subsequent investigation launched by law enforcement.

Its semi-humorous as what assassin would assemble a hit list that consisted of the President and then proceeded to me-- still i was a little alarmed that a guy i barely knew had designated me to a hit list, private joke or otherwise.


That would be alarming to me too. Especially if you didn't know him that well.

[jwhardin]

When I worked for the Secretary of Defense in the early 70's, my family stayed in GA. Some men show up asking my wife questions about why she was calling the office of the SecDef, of course it was me she was calling.

[Hoofbite]

The best part is that I'm sure this guy that already wishes the President would drop dead is now absolutely convinced Obama is out to get him. Getting a visit from the SS probably didn't ease his dislike for the man.

Haha, I can only imagine what his answer would be now.

[Jarv]

I remember the Secret Service came to our town and not only visited with a local, but took the local away for a few days for questioning before letting him go.

This guy was a Doctor that sent a pretty salty letter to the President and apparently the SS took it very serious.

This was when W was president.

Either way, the Secret Service has a job to do and with Ronny getting shot some years ago, with abortion Drs getting killed, with other political situations leading to murder and bombings over the years...I would rather the Secret Service be a little paranoid.

I would also say that it is not wise to send nasty gram letters (with possibly threats) or take surveys and wish death on someone like the POTUS and expect not to get questioned on it...if they did not question, they would not be doing their jobs.

Stupid is and Stupid does IMO.

Did they waterboard you ? If so, that explains a lot :)

Check every lead is the safest way to handle these things, but 2 hours with this may seem extreme, but they had to probably finish their job once they started.

[Hostile]

You 100% sure he didn't say something that involved killing him? I mean, I don't want to suggest he would mean it. But my Granny is 96. Some of the stuff she says would have been generally accept 50 years ago. But today seems downright racist and really dangerous if she wasn't overall a sweet sweet lady.Yes, I am 100% sure that he said some version of he wished he would die, but did not say he'd like to kill him.

Racist? Why does what he say have to be racist? What race is he? What race is his wife?

I also know his mind is sharp as ever. He's a salty old cuss who doesn't have any use for a lot of things including surveys. I am pretty sure he was irritated (because he often is) at the stupidity of the survey and the question, and it got taken seriously.

I'm amused that he didn't pull any punches. Because that is him. Some old cowboys are all gurgle and no guts. He's got guts. Sometimes too much guts.

For those wondering, he's damned amused that he was seen as a threat. From what I have been told he's made several comments questioning their brains, manhood, and lack of common sense. Some of it to their faces according to my sister-in-law. Everyone in their family is laughing their rear ends off.

The funniest thing to me is that they questioned an old cowboy in his home. He's got Winchesters and revolvers all over his front room. I am pretty sure they nearly fainted at all his guns and his matter of fact way of speaking his mind. If anyone thinks he was the one who was scared I assure you he wasn't.

[Temo]

Well, to be fair I'm sure the Secret Service wasn't scared of a 90 year old rancher either.

Though if they are, that's pretty sad.

[ScipioCowboy]

Yes, I am 100% sure that he said some version of he wished he would die, but did not say he'd like to kill him.

Racist? Why does what he say have to be racist? What race is he? What race is his wife?

I also know his mind is sharp as ever. He's a salty old cuss who doesn't have any use for a lot of things including surveys. I am pretty sure he was irritated (because he often is) at the stupidity of the survey and the question, and it got taken seriously.

I'm amused that he didn't pull any punches. Because that is him. Some old cowboys are all gurgle and no guts. He's got guts. Sometimes too much guts.

For those wondering, he's damned amused that he was seen as a threat. From what I have been told he's made several comments questioning their brains, manhood, and lack of common sense. Some of it to their faces according to my sister-in-law. Everyone in their family is laughing their rear ends off.

The funniest thing to me is that they questioned an old cowboy in his home. He's got Winchesters and revolvers all over his front room. I am pretty sure they nearly fainted at all his guns and his matter of fact way of speaking his mind. If anyone thinks he was the one who was scared I assure you he wasn't.

It's a great story, Hos. Thank you for sharing it. I enjoyed it thoroughly.

Unfortunately, a few posters may feel compelled to play damage control whenever they feel their side is being slighted -- even if the slight resides entirely in their minds.

[Temo]

It's a great story, Hos. Thank you for sharing it. I enjoyed it thoroughly.

Unfortunately, a few posters may feel compelled to play damage control whenever they feel their side is being slighted -- even if the slight resides entirely in their minds.

Don't know about that; it's a natural reaction to sarcastic posts like:

Can't ever happen in America. That's not what this administration is about.

[ABQCOWBOY]

Don't know about that; it's a natural reaction to sarcastic posts like:


Interesting how you would see this as sarcastic. I think I agree with you when you say don't know.

Our Founding Fathers didn't trust Government yet when it's suggested that their might be reason not to trust this or any Government, it's sarcastic.

OK then.

That about rounds out this thread for me.

[ScipioCowboy]

Don't know about that; it's a natural reaction to sarcastic posts like:

Did Hos make the "sarcastic" comment to which you alluded?

[ABQCOWBOY]

Did Hos make the "sarcastic" comment to which you alluded?


Alas, I hold that dubious honor Scip.

BTW, how are you doing this evening?

[Hostile]

Did Hos make the "sarcastic" comment to which you alluded?Nope.

[JBond]

Yes, people taking political surveys may indeed have political connections. Crazy, right?

Typically, they are handled by third parties. It' not like Obama's kids are calling.

[ScipioCowboy]

Alas, I hold that dubious honor Scip.

BTW, how are you doing this evening?

I'm doing well. Thanks for asking.

My wife and I are enjoying our vacation in Santa Fe, New Mexico. I've always had a passion for the Southwest -- the art, culture, and cuisine. I actually have a minor in Southwestern studies.

Having been born from Texas, I'm technically from the Southwest, but no place embodies the region like New Mexico and Arizona.

As I was visiting the various stores in Santa Fe today, I stopped by a chile shop where I asked the proprietor to explain the difference between New Mexican and Tex Mex cuisine.

He explained that Tex Mex uses a tomato base (red sauce) or a tomatillo (green sauce) base in its salsas. New Mexican, conversely, uses no tomatoes or tomatillos; it's all peppers.

Sorry for the long, boring answer to your simple question. I'm just excited about my newfound knowledge.

[ScipioCowboy]

Nope.

Precisely.

[MetalHead]

I'm doing well. Thanks for asking.

My wife and I are enjoying our vacation in Santa Fe, New Mexico. I've always had a passion for the Southwest -- the art, culture, and cuisine. I actually have a minor in Southwestern studies.

Having been born from Texas, I'm technically from the Southwest, but no place embodies the region like New Mexico and Arizona.

As I was visiting the various stores in Santa Fe today, I stopped by a chile shop where I asked the proprietor to explain the difference between New Mexican and Tex Mex cuisine.

He explained that Tex Mex uses a tomato base (red sauce) or a tomatillo (green sauce) base in its salsas. New Mexican, conversely, uses no tomatoes or tomatillos; it's all peppers.

Sorry for the long, boring answer to your simple question. I'm just excited about my newfound knowledge.

I'm in deep love with Tex Mex food.

[DaBoys4Life]

Wow gotta be careful what you say over the phone that's crazy although I most likely would of answered the same way.

[ABQCOWBOY]

I'm doing well. Thanks for asking.

My wife and I are enjoying our vacation in Santa Fe, New Mexico. I've always had a passion for the Southwest -- the art, culture, and cuisine. I actually have a minor in Southwestern studies.

Having been born from Texas, I'm technically from the Southwest, but no place embodies the region like New Mexico and Arizona.

As I was visiting the various stores in Santa Fe today, I stopped by a chile shop where I asked the proprietor to explain the difference between New Mexican and Tex Mex cuisine.

He explained that Tex Mex uses a tomato base (red sauce) or a tomatillo (green sauce) base in its salsas. New Mexican, conversely, uses no tomatoes or tomatillos; it's all peppers.

Sorry for the long, boring answer to your simple question. I'm just excited about my newfound knowledge.

Not at all Scip and good to hear you are enjoying Santa Fe. If you need anything, give me a ring and I'll do my best to help. I'll PM you the number just in case. Please enjoy N.M.

:)