Its getting pretty chippy in here...

[CowboyWay]

Hey guys, I know we all argue alot, but lately it seems as though its getting quite hateful. Especially in that Kennedy thread. We all have to remember, we're all on the same side here. We just have different ideas on how to get there.

I'm just as guilty as the majority here, so I want to just say, if I'm in a dispute with you, I certainly mean no harm, and I would hope that I don't come across as "hateful", but if I do, please call me on it.

I could tell you right now that if I was to sit down with ABQ, Zrin, Ice, and God help me, Burm, Jbond, and even Artie, I'm sure we'd all drink a cold one, laugh and joke, and have a good time together, as long as we weren't talking politics. I bet we all have WAY more in common, than we have differences.

I think we should all try not to lose sight of that.

PS...Bush is the Devil. Just Kidding !!!!:lmao:

[Temo]

I called the Kennedy thread a while ago. It was obvious that it was coming. Honestly, you (that's a general you, not you specifically) need to just let the ranters rant and not get hurt about it.

It's an internet forum, a good sense of humor and not taking everything seriously is mandatory or you just end up wasting a ton of time and effort better spent elsewhere.

[ABQCOWBOY]

The Kennedy thread was doomed from the start IMO. To many people hold resentment for Ted Kennedy. Not saying it's right. I personally see no reason to walk all over a dead mans grave. I don't like Ted Kennedy and never have but he has passed and what is said and posted about the man is now for his family and freinds. I take no pleasure in saying hurtful things.

RIP Ted Kennedy. Condolences to the Kennedy Family.

As for the rest, I agree Cowboy. We are all in this together. I would imagine that if we all sat down and had a beer, we would likely discuss Cowboy Football rather then politics. At least I hope we would.

[JBond]

Hey guys, I know we all argue alot, but lately it seems as though its getting quite hateful. Especially in that Kennedy thread. We all have to remember, we're all on the same side here. We just have different ideas on how to get there.

I'm just as guilty as the majority here, so I want to just say, if I'm in a dispute with you, I certainly mean no harm, and I would hope that I don't come across as "hateful", but if I do, please call me on it.

I could tell you right now that if I was to sit down with ABQ, Zrin, Ice, and God help me, Burm, Jbond, and even Artie, I'm sure we'd all drink a cold one, laugh and joke, and have a good time together, as long as we weren't talking politics. I bet we all have WAY more in common, than we have differences.

I think we should all try not to lose sight of that.

PS...Bush is the Devil. Just Kidding !!!!:lmao:

It would take the help of God to have a beer with me? I'm not that bad. Beside with you being a kinda left leaning fellow, I would get stuck picking up the tab.

and we all know Obama is the anti- .

[Rackat]

It is definately getting personal now. And though we disagree on the issues, I agree with your thoughts in the OP.

I am not disappointed to see a certain member of Congess pass away, but I there is a line you do not cross when someone dies (unless it is a pedophile, etc). Whatever else he may have been, he was an Elected member of the United States Congress. Some level of respect is deserved.

[vta]

I could tell you right now that if I was to sit down with ABQ, Zrin, Ice, and God help me, Burm, Jbond, and even Artie, I'm sure we'd all drink a cold one, laugh and joke, and have a good time together, as long as we weren't talking politics. I bet we all have WAY more in common, than we have differences.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3606/3317468431_f151b6e04f.jpg

Quiz: who's the Mod ducking behind the bar?

:laugh1:

[Rackat]

Appropriate song for discussing politic and politicians:


The lunatic is on the grass
The lunatic is on the grass
Remembering games and daisy chains and laughs
Got to keep the loonies on the path

The lunatic is in the hall
The lunatics are in my hall
The paper holds their folded faces to the floor
And every day the paper boy brings more

And if the dam breaks open many years too soon
And if there is no room upon the hill
And if your head explodes with dark forbodings too
Ill see you on the dark side of the moon

The lunatic is in my head
The lunatic is in my head
You raise the blade, you make the change
You re-arrange me till Im sane
You lock the door
And throw away the key
Theres someone in my head but its not me.

And if the cloud bursts, thunder in your ear
You shout and no one seems to hear
And if the band youre in starts playing different tunes
Ill see you on the dark side of the moon

[jimmy40]

Hey guys, I know we all argue alot, but lately it seems as though its getting quite hateful. Especially in that Kennedy thread. We all have to remember, we're all on the same side here. We just have different ideas on how to get there.

I'm just as guilty as the majority here, so I want to just say, if I'm in a dispute with you, I certainly mean no harm, and I would hope that I don't come across as "hateful", but if I do, please call me on it.

I could tell you right now that if I was to sit down with ABQ, Zrin, Ice, and God help me, Burm, Jbond, and even Artie, I'm sure we'd all drink a cold one, laugh and joke, and have a good time together, as long as we weren't talking politics. I bet we all have WAY more in common, than we have differences.

I think we should all try not to lose sight of that.

PS...Bush is the Devil. Just Kidding !!!!:lmao:

The Kennedy thread was lightweight compared to some of the Quincy/Hutch threads.:eek:

[ABQCOWBOY]

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3606/3317468431_f151b6e04f.jpg

Quiz: who's the Mod ducking behind the bar?

:laugh1:


:laugh2:

[ConcordCowboy]

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3606/3317468431_f151b6e04f.jpg

Quiz: who's the Mod ducking behind the bar?

:laugh1:

It's that wishy...washy...fence straddler...Brain.

[Temo]

It's that wishy...washy...fence straddler...Brain.

You know, BP came to mind first too. He just seems like the type.

[ConcordCowboy]

You know, BP came to mind first too. He just seems like the type.

By the way that's me with the chair.

[Kangaroo]

Hey guys, I know we all argue alot, but lately it seems as though its getting quite hateful. Especially in that Kennedy thread. We all have to remember, we're all on the same side here. We just have different ideas on how to get there.

I'm just as guilty as the majority here, so I want to just say, if I'm in a dispute with you, I certainly mean no harm, and I would hope that I don't come across as "hateful", but if I do, please call me on it.

I could tell you right now that if I was to sit down with ABQ, Zrin, Ice, and God help me, Burm, Jbond, and even Artie, I'm sure we'd all drink a cold one, laugh and joke, and have a good time together, as long as we weren't talking politics. I bet we all have WAY more in common, than we have differences.

I think we should all try not to lose sight of that.

PS...Bush is the Devil. Just Kidding !!!!:lmao:

That is why I try to not make it personal; and I do not take it personally when someone disagrees. Some things are just better left unsaid.

[Temo]

By the way that's me with the chair.

Hey man, that bar could be any drinking establishment during an OSU football riot. You know, those gatherings that OSU fans like to have after a football win... or loss, or tie, or practice, or pep rally. :D

[ConcordCowboy]

Hey man, that bar could be any drinking establishment during an OU football riot. You know, those gatherings that OU fans like to have after a football win... or loss, or tie, or practice, or pep rally. :D

I know what you mean...I've been to a few of those myself at Ohio St.

:D

[Temo]

I know what you mean...I've been to a few of those myself at Ohio St.

:D

I totally meant OSU, not OU. So yes, I was talking about you. Because an OSU fan would definitely make the most likely chair-thrower.

[CowboyMcCoy]

Personally, I liked the innuendos by posters such as Cajun; in one breath calling him a turd, in the other saying he's ambivalent about his passing. Some wear their honor on their sleeve, I guess.

I know a hypocrite when I see one.

R.I.P. Teddy.

[ConcordCowboy]

I totally meant OSU, not OU. So yes, I was talking about you. Because an OSU fan would definitely make the most likely chair-thrower.

Just give me a Michigan head to crash it over and I'm good.

[BrAinPaiNt]

It's that wishy...washy...fence straddler...Brain.

BP would not be in the bar in the first place.

[CowboyWay]

Beside with you being a kinda left leaning fellow, I would get stuck picking up the tab.



:lmao2: Pretty funny.

[vta]

BP would not be in the bar in the first place.

I thought for sure you'd be the one laughing at everyone involved.
:laugh2:

[Temo]

Just give me a Michigan head to crash it over and I'm good.

http://deadspin.com/5346198/ohio-state-asks-fans-to-stop-being-obnoxious- s-for-five-seconds

[sacase]

I don't take any of this personal. I know i would be able to have a drink with 99% of people in here. I wouldn't want to talk politics when we could talk football.

[Future]

I for one think that the arguing is a good thing. Not to say that I think people should get feelings hurt or anything of that nature, but I think its productive to have discussions like this. I know I don't post a lot in this thread...as I'm probably a bit out of my league...but I enjoy reading the opinions in here almost as much as anything in the Fan Zone.

Arguments get heated, that's just the way it is, but it's good to see that people stand by their convictions and aren't afraid to speak their minds...even if it is only a message board. When people's beliefs are challenged, it's understandable that there is anger, but I don't think that it's anything really personal around here.

I don't want this Zone to go anywhere, I think things are good here just the way they are...even if it's a little tense at times.

[ConcordCowboy]

http://deadspin.com/5346198/ohio-state-asks-fans-to-stop-being-obnoxious- s-for-five-seconds

:laugh2:

Won't happen.

[vta]

I for one think that the arguing is a good thing. Not to say that I think people should get feelings hurt or anything of that nature, but I think its productive to have discussions like this. I know I don't post a lot in this thread...as I'm probably a bit out of my league...but I enjoy reading the opinions in here almost as much as anything in the Fan Zone.

Arguments get heated, that's just the way it is, but it's good to see that people stand by their convictions and aren't afraid to speak their minds...even if it is only a message board. When people's beliefs are challenged, it's understandable that there is anger, but I don't think that it's anything really personal around here.

I don't want this Zone to go anywhere, I think things are good here just the way they are...even if it's a little tense at times.

I think so too.
You learn a lot debating people of a different ideology and basically nothing if you all agree on things. This board reflects the rest of the world: the balanced and over the top.

[ABQCOWBOY]

:laugh2:

Won't happen.

I'd bet on 40 Republican votes supporting Obamacare before I'd bet on that.

:laugh2:

[MetalHead]

Oh man I missed that party.
I did absolutely nothing,and yet Silverbroad still brings my name in and runs!
That reflects poorly on a "man" rep.

[Phrozen Phil]

The Kennedy thread was doomed from the start IMO. To many people hold resentment for Ted Kennedy. Not saying it's right. I personally see no reason to walk all over a dead mans grave. I don't like Ted Kennedy and never have but he has passed and what is said and posted about the man is now for his family and freinds. I take no pleasure in saying hurtful things.

RIP Ted Kennedy. Condolences to the Kennedy Family.

As for the rest, I agree Cowboy. We are all in this together. I would imagine that if we all sat down and had a beer, we would likely discuss Cowboy Football rather then politics. At least I hope we would.

Earlier this morning, I was considering just stepping away from this board, as the tone was getting pretty personal and some serious name calling and religious attacks were ramping up. I'm glad this thead was started as I was pretty bummed out by the Kennedy thread. Sometimes the name calling gets pretty nasty and in light of CBZ40's passing, I thought people might take a more balanced approach and temper their comments. I had a good discussion with several conservatives regarding Heath Care a couple of weeks ago and, depsite not finding common ground on all the issues, it was pretty respectful.

I recognize that people will bring different perspectives to the table, based on their beliefs and history. Nobody has a monopoly on the truth and it remains to be seen as to what will or won't work from a political perspective.

[Phrozen Phil]

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3606/3317468431_f151b6e04f.jpg

Quiz: who's the Mod ducking behind the bar?

:laugh1:

BTW, I'm the guy with the bottle. It's empty, trust me. I would not want to waste a full one.;)

[daschoo]

got to agree with the sentiments of the thread and say i would happily buy every member of the board a beer and hopefully toast a cowboys win while doing so, even if you would choke on my lib beer burm ;) . if it was on my side of the pond then all the better, i could extend the day of sport to twelve hourse of drinking to watch celtic first :D

[arglebargle]

On topic, I know that most of the folks that I vehemently disagree with here are damn fine people.

Funny thing, I do pay attention to everyone's opinions and arguements. Even Burm, when he's not shouting the obligatory Lefty/Liberal! 'Cause I read his comments on football, and they are quite good, and I am more often than not in agreement with them.

How come he's so smart there, but in the PZ..... Hmn, maybe I better go read his posts here again...:D

[Bach]

Are youtube links not allowed anymore?

[burmafrd]

because argle as a lib if you allowed yourself to realize the brilliance of many of my posts you would no longer be a lib and that would just kill you. So its merely self preservation on your part.

[zrinkill]

Everyone needs to calm down.

People are getting banned and its football season.

Anyone who is hot needs to just ignore this forum for a day or two.

seriously.

[vta]

Everyone needs to calm down.

People are getting banned and its football season.

Anyone who is hot needs to just ignore this forum for a day or two.

seriously.

SHUT UP!!!





:p:

[daschoo]

Everyone needs to calm down.

People are getting banned and its football season.

Anyone who is hot needs to just ignore this forum for a day or two.

seriously.

i hate it when you do this making me agree with you thing :D

on a side note i can hardly wait for the first full season i have actually given a ****e about. still not celtic but i am genuinly excited which this time last year i would never have thought i would be

[zrinkill]

i hate it when you do this making me agree with you thing :D

Do you usually disagree with me?

[daschoo]

Do you usually disagree with me?

you noticed? my heart just skipped a beat!

[BrAinPaiNt]

Everyone needs to calm down.

People are getting banned and its football season.

Anyone who is hot needs to just ignore this forum for a day or two.

seriously.

People, or at least the last 3 I have banned, are getting banned because they can not seem to grasp the concept of not bringing religion into the discussion in one form or another even after I have said not to do it time and time again.

[vta]

People, or at least the last 3 I have banned, are getting banned because they can not seem to grasp the concept of not bringing religion into the discussion in one form or another even after I have said not to do it time and time again.

Oh for God's sake; blessed Mother Mary and all the Holy Saints, when will they learn?


Hehehe...

[CowboyMcCoy]

Everyone needs to calm down.

People are getting banned and its football season.

Anyone who is hot needs to just ignore this forum for a day or two.

seriously.


But Zrin, I'm mad at you. I'm always flaming mad at you. :o: You just....irk me.

[burmafrd]

hey BP who has gotten banned recently? Was the rat one of them?

[BrAinPaiNt]

hey BP who has gotten banned recently? Was the rat one of them?

One of his fake usernames got banned, but that had nothing to do with the reasons I was talking about.

[Double Trouble]

The Kennedy thread was doomed from the start IMO. To many people hold resentment for Ted Kennedy. Not saying it's right. I personally see no reason to walk all over a dead mans grave. I don't like Ted Kennedy and never have but he has passed and what is said and posted about the man is now for his family and freinds. I take no pleasure in saying hurtful things.

RIP Ted Kennedy. Condolences to the Kennedy Family.

As for the rest, I agree Cowboy. We are all in this together. I would imagine that if we all sat down and had a beer, we would likely discuss Cowboy Football rather then politics. At least I hope we would.
I wish his family peace. And I'm not glad that he died.

But at the same time, I'm thrilled he'll never hold his seat in the U.S. Senate, ever again.

[zrinkill]

One of his fake usernames got banned, but that had nothing to do with the reasons I was talking about.

We should make a poll on how long till his next username appears.

[BrAinPaiNt]

We should make a poll on how long till his next username appears.

I hate polls.:laugh1:

[ABQCOWBOY]

got to agree with the sentiments of the thread and say i would happily buy every member of the board a beer and hopefully toast a cowboys win while doing so, even if you would choke on my lib beer burm ;) . if it was on my side of the pond then all the better, i could extend the day of sport to twelve hourse of drinking to watch celtic first :D

Dassch, I would definately have a pint with you and maybe watch a match. I have learned to appriciate the game over the years. I will never enjoy it as much as I do American Football but I see why the rest of the world loves it.

:)

[JBond]

We should make a poll on how long till his next username appears.

has Ioz been tossed already?