Dealing with Reality

[Sandman]

The Cowboys are making the right move with Henson. No doubt about it. He is the QB of the future, and the future is 07. He will be great when he gets the chance, after he learns the game and gains the trust of the coach. I don't want a bus driver, but a legitimate QB superstar. Build the team correctly and we can win for years, vice one season at a time. Roger Stauback was out of the game for years and when he came back it three years before he was the full-time starter, hopefully Henson will follow the same path. The Cowboys are not one player away from a championship, and Bill has a plan. He didn't forget how to coach when he came the cowboys, he is building a program. Stay the course and we will be rewarded.

[SuspectCorner]

The Cowboys are making the right move with Henson. No doubt about it. He is the QB of the future, and the future is 07. He will be great when he gets the chance, after he learns the game and gains the trust of the coach. I don't want a bus driver, but a legitimate QB superstar. Build the team correctly and we can win for years, vice one season at a time. Roger Stauback was out of the game for years and when he came back it three years before he was the full-time starter, hopefully Henson will follow the same path. The Cowboys are not one player away from a championship, and Bill has a plan. He didn't forget how to coach when he came the cowboys, he is building a program. Stay the course and we will be rewarded.
i wish i was sold on henson being a superstar. my outlook for the postion is quite a bit more guarded. in 30 years i don't remember such a prolonged period of uncertainty there. in aikman's first season i could see the roots of a fine QB just looking for purchase in the soil of experience. between him and danny white it was the bum of the year. this is kinda new territory for cowboys fans.

[Reality]

Dealing with Reality
Am I THAT hard to deal with? :D :D I noticed you even capitalized the R!

[Yeagermeister]

Am I THAT hard to deal with? I noticed you even capitalized the R!
YES!!!! :D

[Juke99]

Am I THAT hard to deal with? :D :D I noticed you even capitalized the R!


I swear I didn't tell him to start this thread...honest.




*fingers crossed behind back*

[Dave_in-NC]

The Cowboys are making the right move with Henson. No doubt about it. He is the QB of the future, and the future is 07. He will be great when he gets the chance, after he learns the game and gains the trust of the coach. I don't want a bus driver, but a legitimate QB superstar. Build the team correctly and we can win for years, vice one season at a time. Roger Stauback was out of the game for years and when he came back it three years before he was the full-time starter, hopefully Henson will follow the same path. The Cowboys are not one player away from a championship, and Bill has a plan. He didn't forget how to coach when he came the cowboys, he is building a program. Stay the course and we will be rewarded.

We keep bringing in bargain QBs and keep getting ripped off. Some guys never learn.

Henson is a long term project plain and simple. I hope it creates a QB controversey in a few years. That would be way better than what we are going through now and years before now.

[zack]

We keep bringing in bargain QBs and keep getting ripped off. Some guys never learn.

Henson is a long term project plain and simple. I hope it creates a QB controversey in a few years. That would be way better than what we are going through now and years before now.

I really don't know what the big deal is about him. My expectations were ruined after we took a risk on CH. Something must be really wrong with this guy, that is all I have to say. People like to question BP right now because we are losing, but something tells me that Henson sucks! At least we didn't give up and pay a lot for him.

People were all giddy about him throwing 7 on 7, blah, blah, blah. He gets some mop up duty against Balitmore and people are calling him TA. The Chicago game was telling.

[Wolverine]

The Cowboys are making the right move with Henson. No doubt about it. He is the QB of the future, and the future is 07. He will be great when he gets the chance, after he learns the game and gains the trust of the coach. I don't want a bus driver, but a legitimate QB superstar. Build the team correctly and we can win for years, vice one season at a time. Roger Stauback was out of the game for years and when he came back it three years before he was the full-time starter, hopefully Henson will follow the same path. The Cowboys are not one player away from a championship, and Bill has a plan. He didn't forget how to coach when he came the cowboys, he is building a program. Stay the course and we will be rewarded.



Nice post but here is the prob. How will Henson be any better in 07 then he would be right now with the crap Parcells is puttin him through. If he is gonna be the future he needs to be playin NOW. He is not gonna learn any more from the sidelines. He wont get actual game speed experience and exeprience makin split second decisions sittin on the sidelines.

[pgreptom]

What's hard to deal with is.. our record.

[Sandman]

Experience is only valuable after a foundation has been laid. I abosolutly agree with Bill on this. According most of the posters, any Joe Blow would be a better Qb tomorrow if he plays today. Not the case, there has to be a certain level of ability in place to gain the experience. I really think Bill does believe that Henson in QB of the future and he is building him up to succeed. That's the difference between a fan and professional coach. I would love to see Henson playing and the cowboys winning, but I think we got trust Bill on this..

[Wolverine]

Experience is only valuable after a foundation has been laid. I abosolutly agree with Bill on this. According most of the posters, any Joe Blow would be a better Qb tomorrow if he plays today. Not the case, there has to be a certain level of ability in place to gain the experience. I really think Bill does believe that Henson in QB of the future and he is building him up to succeed. That's the difference between a fan and professional coach. I would love to see Henson playing and the cowboys winning, but I think we got trust Bill on this..

Eli Manning looked like a bust his first couple games. Then last week against the Stillerz who have a good defense Manning played his best game and showed some improvement. That is the only way Henson will get better to.

[Oh_Canada]

Eli Manning looked like a bust his first couple games. Then last week against the Stillerz who have a good defense Manning played his best game and showed some improvement. That is the only way Henson will get better to.


Shhhh....your not supposed to make any sense regarding the qb situation.

[odog422]

Eli Manning looked like a bust his first couple games. Then last week against the Stillerz who have a good defense Manning played his best game and showed some improvement. That is the only way Henson will get better to.

if all things had gone to plan, henson would never have seen the field this year, and as i recall, the predominant thought on this board was that that would have been a good thing.

of course, the plan fell through. add to that we are losing. and now many want to play henson.

one definition of insanity is doing the same thing again and again and expecting different results. i like the fact that, IMO, a good plan for henson's development was created in the offseason, even endorsed by jones at that point, and parcells is staying the course.

as the original poster said, the foundation must be present before attempting to build the structure and his lack of playing represents more foundation work needed.

to me, its just that simple.

[Dave_in-NC]

Eli Manning looked like a bust his first couple games. Then last week against the Stillerz who have a good defense Manning played his best game and showed some improvement. That is the only way Henson will get better to.

Eli leave football and play baseball for a few years? They arent the same animal. Eli should be and probably is light years ahead of Henson.
besides even Chad Hutch had one good game this season.

[wileedog]

The Cowboys are making the right move with Henson. No doubt about it. He is the QB of the future, and the future is 07. He will be great when he gets the chance, after he learns the game and gains the trust of the coach. I don't want a bus driver, but a legitimate QB superstar. Build the team correctly and we can win for years, vice one season at a time. Roger Stauback was out of the game for years and when he came back it three years before he was the full-time starter, hopefully Henson will follow the same path. The Cowboys are not one player away from a championship, and Bill has a plan. He didn't forget how to coach when he came the cowboys, he is building a program. Stay the course and we will be rewarded.


Nice post, couldn't agree more.

*takes a swig of nice, refreshing Kool-Aid*

[joseephuss]

The Cowboys are making the right move with Henson. No doubt about it. He is the QB of the future, and the future is 07. He will be great when he gets the chance, after he learns the game and gains the trust of the coach. I don't want a bus driver, but a legitimate QB superstar. Build the team correctly and we can win for years, vice one season at a time. Roger Stauback was out of the game for years and when he came back it three years before he was the full-time starter, hopefully Henson will follow the same path. The Cowboys are not one player away from a championship, and Bill has a plan. He didn't forget how to coach when he came the cowboys, he is building a program. Stay the course and we will be rewarded.

Craig Morton was playing pretty well during Roger's first two seasons and Dallas was in the playoffs. Vinny is playing horribly and they won't be sniffing the playoffs this season. Roger saw playing time which allowed him to develop. I would love to see either Romo or Henson or both get that playing time now.

[twa]

With the contract Henson signed we have the luxury of letting him develop,much like we used to do before the salary cap.I long for the times when a QB did not play untill he was ready instead of throwing them out there because of pressure. The notion that a young QB must start right away ,just because he is talented or being paid millions,has done more to weaken this league than anything else.

[VA Cowboy]

The Cowboys are making the right move with Henson. No doubt about it. He is the QB of the future, and the future is 07.
Isn't it funny how every year we are always at least 2 years away? I have a feeling that when '07 comes around everyone will be pointing to '09.

Roger Stauback

:banghead:

Staubach....STAUBACH

[garyv]

If HEnson is the future than there is nothing more valuable than playing experience. Can anyone remember Aikmans first season he actually looked terrible. Many people felt Steve Walsh was needed for the future. The Cowboys let him play, take his lumps and kept building around him. This is exactly what should be going on with Henson. This is valuable playing time he is MISSING out on, when we are too busy WASTING time with QB's that are past their time or doesn't have the needed tools to be an every down Quarterback in the NFL.

[HTownCowboysFan]

The Cowboys are making the right move with Henson. No doubt about it. He is the QB of the future, and the future is 07. He will be great when he gets the chance, after he learns the game and gains the trust of the coach. I don't want a bus driver, but a legitimate QB superstar. Build the team correctly and we can win for years, vice one season at a time. Roger Stauback was out of the game for years and when he came back it three years before he was the full-time starter, hopefully Henson will follow the same path. The Cowboys are not one player away from a championship, and Bill has a plan. He didn't forget how to coach when he came the cowboys, he is building a program. Stay the course and we will be rewarded.

A man and post of sanity. Although I'm not convinced that Henson is the QB of the future. How can anyone say that he is? He only started eight games prior to this season and hasn't played a lot of football. This rush to get him in now is crazy.

[VA Cowboy]

If HEnson is the future than there is nothing more valuable than playing experience. Can anyone remember Aikmans first season he actually looked terrible. Many people felt Steve Walsh was needed for the future. The Cowboys let him play, take his lumps and kept building around him. This is exactly what should be going on with Henson. This is valuable playing time he is MISSING out on, when we are too busy WASTING time with QB's that are past their time or doesn't have the needed tools to be an every down Quarterback in the NFL.

I would totally agree with you if Aikman had been out of football for 4 years prior to entering the NFL. Or if Henson had been playing college ball the last 3-4 years. Aikman was FAR MORE experienced his rookie year than Henson is right now.
Plus, many people said it would've been best not to have Hutch start in his first year. Now that we're in a similar situation, most are flip-flopping and now want the unproven, inexperienced first year QB to be thrown in. The original plan was for Henson to practice and watch this year. Some circumstances changed, but in the long run, it may be best that BP didn't give in to every armchair QB, including Jerry.

[jimmy40]

A man and post of sanity. Although I'm not convinced that Henson is the QB of the future. How can anyone say that he is? He only started eight games prior to this season and hasn't played a lot of football. This rush to get him in now is crazy.There's no such thing as rushing a QB into the 15th game of a wasted season.

[slick325]

I am going to trust Coach Parcells judgment in the Drew Henson matter. In Dallas' recent history we have had two young QB's thrown in the fire. One was drafted much higher than he was supposed to go and the other left baseball to return to a game he hadn't played in years. They both failed as successors to Aikman. The fact of the matter is Henson has played 10 or 11 games give or take a few since his Michigan days (preseason included as well as the half against Chi and the spot duty against the Ravens). He has rust!

The argument is being made that Henson should be treated like Eli Manning or Rothlisberger or Aikman or Peyton Manning. He is unlike them simply because he didn't play all four years of college. They were more advanced at this stage than Henson. Coach Parcells is attempting to take the approach used on Brett Farve (as he mentioned), Steve McNair and Daunte Culpepper. The move seemed to work with those players, who might I add also played a great deal more collegiate games than Henson. Being patient may work on this one, there are examples we can site to where there was success. Also there are examples in our very recent past that should teach us not to repeat history and rush this thing. I will give Coach Parcells the benefit of the doubt on this one.

This in no way should imply that I am comfortable with our current situation at QB. The position has been one of great trepidation for years now. I think we should be patient with Henson just as the Bengals were with Palmer. The funny thing is I believe that Dallas should use the same QB who mentored Palmer to drive our bus until Henson is ready. We should sign Kitna for band-aid purposes while Henson gets ready, then keep him around as a viable backup in case Henson implodes. Kitna has handled his demotion with class and seems to be a team 1st guy. Just my thoughts on the issue. Happy Holidays all.

[gbrittain]

I really don't know what the big deal is about him. My expectations were ruined after we took a risk on CH. Something must be really wrong with this guy, that is all I have to say. People like to question BP right now because we are losing, but something tells me that Henson sucks! At least we didn't give up and pay a lot for him.

People were all giddy about him throwing 7 on 7, blah, blah, blah. He gets some mop up duty against Balitmore and people are calling him TA. The Chicago game was telling.

Let me see you were able to judge DH by the 12 passes he threw in one half against Chicago.

I have that game on TIVO and have reviewed each and every throw several times.

On at least three plays he never had a chance. Had one ball batted down. Threw a couple of low percentage deep passes that were incomplete.

Threw one terrible interception like rookies tend to do or 42 year old veterans tend to do.

His performance was way way overblown. No it was not good, would not argue that with you.

Did Eli impress you any in his first 5 or so games? Would you send him packing as well?

[DoomsDayD]

I am trying to deal with reality. Its these damn people in the malls that shop once a year and have no idea what they are doing. There are 2 things that burn me up the most...
1) These couples that take kids in coaches to the malls where there is hardly any room to walk let along pushing a MINI SEMI down the aisles.
2) These people that decide the best place to talk on the phone or have a meeting about what they got there boyfriends,husbands,wives,lovers,goomads,favorite hooker or whatever, right in the middle of the walkway in the mall.
Ok that is my dose of reality for today. Off to the mall i go.

[jay cee]

Eli Manning looked like a bust his first couple games. Then last week against the Stillerz who have a good defense Manning played his best game and showed some improvement. That is the only way Henson will get better to.


Maybe players like Rothlisberger and Manning, who have been playing for the last 3 years have the foundation already laid that Parcells is trying to help Henson build.

All of these players are not at the same level of development.

[Mr Cowboy]

Maybe players like Rothlisberger and Manning, who have been playing for the last 3 years have the foundation already laid that Parcells is trying to help Henson build.

All of these players are not at the same level of development.

Why are we waiting for Henson to come around? What if he doesn't, we will have wasted another 3-5 years waiting for Henson to become the Franchise QB. What do we do in the meantime? Keep signing Vinny-type players? Continue our losing ways and not complain because Drew will be ready in a year or two?

I have never been convinced that Drew would be our future, and now Parcells has added more doubts. And yet some here are willing to go with Vinny or some other has been, never was, or never will be, until Drew is ready. some here are willing to wait through more losing seasons, for Drew to be ready.

Not me, I want to go out and get a QB that is ready to play, surround him with a good cast and make a run for it. I don't care if we use a first round draft pick, or use our picks to trade for one. Just get me a real QB.

[jay cee]

Why are we waiting for Henson to come around? What if he doesn't, we will have wasted another 3-5 years waiting for Henson to become the Franchise QB. What do we do in the meantime? Keep signing Vinny-type players? Continue our losing ways and not complain because Drew will be ready in a year or two?

I have never been convinced that Drew would be our future, and now Parcells has added more doubts. And yet some here are willing to go with Vinny or some other has been, never was, or never will be, until Drew is ready. some here are willing to wait through more losing seasons, for Drew to be ready.

Not me, I want to go out and get a QB that is ready to play, surround him with a good cast and make a run for it. I don't care if we use a first round draft pick, or use our picks to trade for one. Just get me a real QB.


That is more or less the approach that I would take. I don't believe i would draft a qb though. I say get a young player that has some experience and upside like Billy Volek was last year.

I just don't see the point in losing with a young qb unless you are an expansion team or almost totally devoid of talent like the Cowboys were in '89. I say build the best possible team you can. And when the qb is ready to help you win, you play him.