NAACP to march in support of Vick at tonight's game

[jimmy40]

PHILADELPHIA -- A massive demonstration is planned to support Michael Vick at Lincoln Financial Field on Thursday, when Vick is expected to make his debut with the Eagles.

The Philadelphia chapter of the NAACP, the Black Clergy of Philadelphia and other local civil rights groups had planned a demonstration to support Vick.

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We believe Michael Vick has served his time, paid his debt to society and deserves a second chance and the animal rights groups want to hold him hostage for the rest of his life.
” -- J. Whyatt Mondesire, president, NAACP's Philadelphia chapter

However, the Eagles called the NAACP after hearing of the plans for the demonstration at the stadium, and asked them to cancel the rally to stop a potentially "ugly scene," J. Whyatt Mondesire, president of the Philadelphia chapter of the NAACP told ESPN.

Mondesire told The Associated Press later Wednesday evening that his group and the Black Clergy of Philadelphia had decided to proceed with their march on Thursday.

"We believe Michael Vick has served his time, paid his debt to society and deserves a second chance and the animal rights groups want to hold him hostage for the rest of his life," J. Whyatt Mondesire, president of the Philadelphia chapter of the NAACP, said Wednesday. "We think that's patently unfair. It denies Michael Vick's basic civil rights, denies him his ability to make a living."

The Eagles' security operation is planning for individual animal rights protests outside the stadium.

Earlier Wednesday, Mondesire said about a half-dozen groups from around the Philadelphia area were planning to meet at the front of Lincoln Financial Field and begin a march around the stadium prior to the Eagles' preseason game against the Jacksonville Jaguars.

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The Eagles have not heard of any planned demonstration or protest from animal rights groups, which met with team management for two hours on Monday at the team's practice facility. Although no local animal rights group have yet to partner with the Eagles or Vick in a local anti-dogfighting campaign, the meeting appeared to end on a positive note and head off any planned massive protest, participants said.

Meanwhile, animal advocates are throwing a tailgate party on the other side of town Thursday for the 2nd Chance Dogs campaign -- a pointed reference to Vick's second chance in the NFL -- to increase awareness of dogfighting and encourage adoption of rescued pit bulls.

The initiative, sponsored by the Pennsylvania Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals, was launched after the Eagles signed Vick, who served 18 months in prison for running a dogfighting ring.

"As a lot of people have pointed out, [Vick's] animals never got a second chance," SPCA chief executive Sue Cosby said. "We need to speak for them."

Local animal advocates seem to be keeping their distance. Rather than protest Vick or work with him, they prefer to use the public debate about his return to the NFL to raise money and awareness of animal cruelty issues.

"The animal welfare groups really have no interest in working with Michael Vick," said Tom Hickey Sr., founder of the Pennsylvania advocacy group DogPAC.

Hickey, who is also a member of the state dog law advisory board, has more than 5,000 signatures on a petition asking the Eagles spend the equivalent of Vick's salary -- $1.6 million -- to establish a rehabilitation and training center for dogs.

Nothing was decided at the meeting, but Hickey felt it was constructive.

"I think it was very educational for the Eagles. It was important that they get involved in the community," he said.

Eagles senior vice president Pamela Browner-Crawley told reporters afterward that "financial support is on the table," along with other resources, but gave no details.

Karel Minor, executive director of the Humane Society of Berks County, wrote on the agency's Web site that he was one of many at the meeting who felt it was time to stop chastising the team and start using its resources to help animals.

"We can make use of the power and influence of the Eagles to make a positive difference," Minor wrote. "We can challenge them to make good on their promise to help us end dogfighting and maybe even more."

[Wrangler87]

Wow.Wonder if they would be doing the same thing for Kevin Kolb, if it had been him?

[Doomsday101]

I'm glad it is Philly getting the attention and not the Cowboys. I know many have opinions pro and con but with the season about to start last thing I would want is an issue like this taking place in Dallas.

[zrinkill]

This is awesome.

Hippies vs Race Mongers!

Idiots vs Racists!

[jimmy40]

I thought I put this in the political zone to start with then I saw it was moved from the fan zone. I gotta get more sleep I guess.

[Joe Realist]

please

[canters]

Wow, this has nothing to do with his race!. What a bunch of race baiters.

[TheCount]

lol, how are these local chapters of various organizations rallying for Vick a race issue? I fail to see how it would cause any problems other than the fact that it's Philly and they can turn anything into an issue. Everything race gets mentioned around here, it's racism.

[zrinkill]

lol, how are these local chapters of various organizations rallying for Vick a race issue? Everything race gets mentioned around here, it's racism.

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[Doomsday101]

lol, how are these local chapters of various organizations rallying for Vick a race issue? I fail to see how it would cause any problems other than the fact that it's Philly and they can turn anything into an issue. Everything race gets mentioned around here, it's racism.

If Race were not involved would the NAACP be protesting?

[TheCount]

If Race were not involved would the NAACP be protesting?

I must have missed where they said it was a protest, sounds like a rally to me. I thought they said they are showing up to support Vick?

[JBond]

I wonder if these gentlemen will be there?

http://img.youtube.com/vi/neGbKHyGuHU/0.jpg

[zrinkill]

So let me get this straight .....

Count thinks that if this was a white player ..... the NAACP would hold a "rally" to support him?

Just want to be clear before I go into full LOL mode.

[Doomsday101]

I must have missed where they said it was a protest, sounds like a rally to me. I thought they said they are showing up to support Vick?

I'm sorry a rally of the NAACP yeah they do that often on issues of non race. Give me a break whether you call it a rally or protest the NAACP deals with race issues and would not be there is we were talking about a white player. You want to play dumb be my guest. Frankly I hope they and Peta old these so called rallies throughout the season any distraction to Philly is a good in my book.

[burmafrd]

anyone who thinks the NAACP is NOT about race is an idiot.

[jimmy40]

lol, how are these local chapters of various organizations rallying for Vick a race issue? I fail to see how it would cause any problems other than the fact that it's Philly and they can turn anything into an issue. Everything race gets mentioned around here, it's racism.The Philadelphia chapter of the NAACP, the Black Clergy of Philadelphia and other local civil rights groups had planned a demonstration to support Vick.


I have no idea why this would be considered a race issue.:lmao2:

[TheCount]

So let me get this straight .....

Count thinks that if this was a white player ..... the NAACP would hold a "rally" to support him?

Just want to be clear before I go into full LOL mode.

I said that? Interesting.

I'm sorry a rally of the NAACP yeah they do that often on issues of non race. Give me a break whether you call it a rally or protest the NAACP deals with race issues and would not be there is we were talking about a white player. You want to play dumb be my guest. Frankly I hope they and Peta old these so called rallies throughout the season any distraction to Philly is a good in my book.

Being about race and being racist are two different things.

[JBond]

lol, how are these local chapters of various organizations rallying for Vick a race issue? I fail to see how it would cause any problems other than the fact that it's Philly and they can turn anything into an issue. Everything race gets mentioned around here, it's racism.

How many non-black groups are running to support this scum bag?

I should clarify. How many groups that do not make race their first priority are running to support him?

[zrinkill]

I said that? Interesting.

What is interesting is that you said it was not about race ...... but if they are only "rallying" for Vick because of the color of his skin, it is about race.

[TheCount]

What is interesting is that you said it was not about race ...... but if they are only "rallying" for Vick because of the color of his skin, it is about race.

No, I said it wasn't a "race issue".

[zrinkill]

Being about race and being racist are two different things.

No, I said it wasn't a "race issue".


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[Cajuncowboy]

This is the most bizarre thing I've seen.

Brainpaint was on his Beck loon thing yesterday. If he really wants to see a loon, look no further than these kooks. The NAACP is nothing more than a laughing stock and if I were a black person I would distance myself as far as I could.

[JBond]

Being about race and being racist are two different things.

How so? We may agree but I wanted your take.

[jimmy40]

However, the Eagles called the NAACP after hearing of the plans for the demonstration at the stadium, and asked them to cancel the rally to stop a potentially "ugly scene," J. Whyatt Mondesire, president of the Philadelphia chapter of the NAACP told ESPN.

Mondesire told The Associated Press later Wednesday evening that his group and the Black Clergy of Philadelphia had decided to proceed with their march on Thursday.




J. Whyatt Mondesire must not be an Eagles fan. 7 people with poodles protesting the Vick signing would be forgotton about by the second quarter of the game, now he's turning it into an issue for the Eagles. This is great.

[Doomsday101]

I said that? Interesting.



Being about race and being racist are two different things.

I agree with you there. So you would acknowledge race is playing a part in the NAACP holding this rally for Vick then?

[TheCount]

How so? We may agree but I wanted your take.

The NAACP is what it is, but to say their marching in support of a black person instantly makes it a race issue is reaching.

If they are out there protesting that the NFL is trying to keep Vick down because he's black (which would be stupid since they let him back in the league), then that's a race issue.

Showing up to support his getting another shot, and showing that not everyone is interested in showing negativity towards him (he'll face plenty of it for quite some time, I'm sure), is something else entirely.

The NAACP is nothing more than a laughing stock and if I were a black person I would distance myself as far as I could.
lol

[ConcordCowboy]

http://zebraisfood.files.wordpress.com/2009/04/pit-bull-puppy-7431651.jpg...I wonder what all of my dead friends would have done with a second chance.


Is that PG enough for you?

[zrinkill]

...I wonder what all of my dead friends would have done with a second chance.

Been eaten by polar bears?

[ConcordCowboy]

Been eaten by polar bears?

:laugh2:

You basterd!

[Cajuncowboy]

The NAACP is what it is, but to say their marching in support of a black person instantly makes it a race issue is reaching.

If they are out there protesting that the NFL is trying to keep Vick down because he's black (which would be stupid since they let him back in the league), then that's a race issue.

Showing up to support his getting another shot, and showing that not everyone is interested in showing negativity towards him (he'll face plenty of it for quite some time, I'm sure), is something else entirely.

So you think that if a white guy was in the same situation, the NAACP would be out to support him?

[zrinkill]

:laugh2:

You basterd!

...:p:...

[Cajuncowboy]

http://zebraisfood.files.wordpress.com/2009/04/pit-bull-puppy-7431651.jpg...I wonder what all of my dead friends would have done with a second chance.

My neighbor had a Pit that looked just like that. He got hit by a car and had his back broke. He was such a playful pup too. I think he was only like a year old too.

[TheCount]

So you think that if a white guy was in the same situation, the NAACP would be out to support him?

Can you read and comprehend?

[Doomsday101]

So you think that if a white guy was in the same situation, the NAACP would be out to support him?

Sure they would just as they would demand affirmative action in the NBA so white guys could play. Face it there is not enough diversity in the NBA :lmao2:

[Cajuncowboy]

Can you read and comprehend?

Sure I can, you are the one with THAT problem, remember.

I understand you to say that the NAACP is just showing up to support Vick. I am assuming you believe it has nothing to do with his skin color. So I asked you if you think if the skin color on Vick was white, do you think the NAACP would show up to support him as well.

Can you read and comprehend? Oh wait, we have established that you can't.

[ConcordCowboy]

My neighbor had a Pit that looked just like that. He got hit by a car and had his back broke. He was such a playful pup too. I think he was only like a year old too.

God I hate stories like that.

My beagle was hit by a car and killed when I was 11.

I still dream about it every once in a great while.

[Doomsday101]

God I hate stories like that.

My beagle was hit by a car and killed when I was 11.

I still dream about it every once in a great while.

So that happened just last year? I'm sorry to hear that. :laugh2: Just kidding. It hurts losing a pet.

[TheCount]

Sure I can, you are the one with THAT problem, remember.

I understand you to say that the NAACP is just showing up to support Vick. I am assuming you believe it has nothing to do with his skin color. So I asked you if you think if the skin color on Vick was white, do you think the NAACP would show up to support him as well.

Can you read and comprehend? Oh wait, we have established that you can't.

Sorry, I stopped reading after you said said "Sure I can", because I knew the rest would be BS.

[Cajuncowboy]

God I hate stories like that.

My beagle was hit by a car and killed when I was 11.

I still dream about it every once in a great while.

I know it's tough. My daughter has lost two pets in the last two weeks and she is so upset. I mean it wasn't a dog but they were a pet frog and a pet anole (sp). She's just 12 and she keeps the containers they were in by her bed and every now and then she moves stuff around int hem.

[Cajuncowboy]

Sorry, I stopped reading after you said said "Sure I can", because I knew the rest would be BS.

So you can't answer the question. Typical. Why can't you just answer one simple question?

Oh, it's that comprehension thingy grabbing ya again.

[jimmy40]

ESPN first take is fixing to discuss this very issue.

[zrinkill]

The head of that NAACP chapter who is heading this "rally" is Mr. Mondesire

He is the same guy that called McNabb out in 2005 when he stopped scrambling ..... said he was belittling the struggles of black athletes by not running more.

:laugh2:

[Cajuncowboy]

I have to apologize to the Count. I thought he was just being obstinate and generally ignorant. I didn't know he had such a vested interest in all things liberal. Now I know better...


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[jimmy40]

ESPN first take is fixing to discuss this very issue.Well all I got from that is it seems as though black people don't love dogs.:confused:

[TheCount]

The head of that NAACP chapter who is heading this "rally" is Mr. Mondesire

He is the same guy that called McNabb out in 2005 when he stopped scrambling ..... said he was belittling the struggles of black athletes by not running more.

:laugh2:

I'll be the last one to defend the intelligence of anything Philly, I don't like anything about that city... except for The Fresh Prince and Cheese Steak Sandwiches, of course.

[TheCount]

I have to apologize to the Count. I thought he was just being obstinate and generally ignorant. I didn't know he had such a vested interest in all things liberal. Now I know better...


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[JBond]

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[ScipioCowboy]

There are far better horses to which the NAACP can attach its cart.

[TheCount]

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I still don't get this. You mean to tell me Vick's actions are that much worse than the drug addicts, cheaters, wife abusers, drunk drivers, murderers, rapists, child molesters, adulterers, womanizers, robbers, etc that have and do play in the NFL?

[vta]

I still don't get this. You mean to tell me Vick's actions are that much worse than the drug addicts, cheaters, wife abusers, drunk drivers, murderers, rapists, child molesters, adulterers, womanizers, robbers, etc that have and do play in the NFL?

Worse than druggies? Yeah, basically.
Cheaters, womanizers? Yes.
Adulterers? Yes.
Thieves? Yes.

Most of those crimes don't involve killing, so in their simplest form, yes, they are less offensive.

Should he never play again? I have no real care for that, but those above comparisons don't really fit in one form or another.

How many rapists, murderers and child molesters has the NFL reinstated? (Maybe Ray Lewis?)

[TheCount]

Worse than druggies? Yeah, basically.
Cheaters, womanizers? Yes.
Adulterers? Yes.
Thieves? Yes.

Most of those crimes don't involve killing, so in their simplest form, yes, they are less offensive.

Should he never play again? I have no real care for that, but those above comparisons don't really fit in one form or another.

How many rapists, murderers and child molesters has the NFL reinstated? (Maybe Ray Lewis?)

It's a collective list. The point was that there are plenty of players that have played and do play in the NFL that have committed various levels of criminal offenses and no one thought to say, "Boy, that really ruins the reputation of the NFL right there." There are PLENTY of players with records in the NFL.

[ConcordCowboy]

I know it's tough. My daughter has lost two pets in the last two weeks and she is so upset. I mean it wasn't a dog but they were a pet frog and a pet anole (sp). She's just 12 and she keeps the containers they were in by her bed and every now and then she moves stuff around int hem.

I know her pain.

I feel sorry for her.

[Cajuncowboy]

I know her pain.

I feel sorry for her.

My wife and I are talking about getting her a Sugar Glider. I think she will love it. Just doing some more research on them though before we pay for one.

[Doomsday101]

It's a collective list. The point was that there are plenty of players that have played and do play in the NFL that have committed various levels of criminal offenses and no one thought to say, "Boy, that really ruins the reputation of the NFL right there." There are PLENTY of players with records in the NFL.

And there are allot of people who think these guys are given more opportunities than should be given and opportunities most would not get the real world work place. If I test positive for drugs I'm gone period there is no second chance. Vick is just another in a long line of players who is getting a chance and many feel these guys don't deserve it. Yes they deserve their freedom when they have paid their due according to the law but do they deserve the opportunity of playing the game? Many do not feel that is the right thing to do and sends the message of another athlete not being held to the same standards as most.

[ConcordCowboy]

My wife and I are talking about getting her a Sugar Glider. I think she will love it. Just doing some more research on them though before we pay for one.

She will love it.

I want one.

:D

http://www.sugar-glider.fr/avatar_sugar-glider.jpg

[DFWJC]

I still don't get this. You mean to tell me Vick's actions are that much worse than the drug addicts, cheaters, wife abusers, drunk drivers, murderers, rapists, child molesters, adulterers, womanizers, robbers, etc that have and do play in the NFL?

I'm with you on this one Count. There is no excuse for what he did and he has said as much. He has paid an unprecedented penalty for his crimes (due to his fame and high profile) and hopefully he can use this as a giant learning expererience. Also hopefully he can do some good and add even more visabilty to this nasty business of dog fighting.

I want to step back and see if the man really has learned. I'm actually pulling for him as I love stories of redemption.

Can't say that I see why the NAACP needs to be involved other than to show support. But then again, I think there usefulness as an organization has long passed anyway.

[JBond]

I still don't get this. You mean to tell me Vick's actions are that much worse than the drug addicts, cheaters, wife abusers, drunk drivers, murderers, rapists, child molesters, adulterers, womanizers, robbers, etc that have and do play in the NFL?

I did not say that. I do believe that slamming dogs heads repeatedly into concrete smashing their skulls is a pretty ugly deed. I am not sure why anyone would defend Vick. He has been trash for a long time. But the usual suspects will continue this thread for pages trying to justify themselves and thier defense a despicable human.

I had hoped the NFL would reinstate him but had also hoped the owners would show a little class and not offer him a job.

[Cajuncowboy]

She will love it.

I want one.

:D

http://www.sugar-glider.fr/avatar_sugar-glider.jpg

And they live to around 15 or so.

[TheCount]

I did not say that. I do believe that slamming dogs heads repeatedly into concrete smashing their skulls is a pretty ugly deed. I am not sure why anyone would defend Vick. He has been trash for a long time. But the usual suspects will continue this thread for pages trying to justify themselves and thier defense a despicable human.

I had hoped the NFL would reinstate him but had also hoped the owners would show a little class and not offer him a job.

You didn't say anything and I didn't claim you did, I was responding to the cartoon.

There's really nothing to defend, he committed a terrible crime and was punished by the law for it. What happens from here is up to him and like I said, there are plenty of players one could consider "trash", that still play in the NFL. It's a little too late to take the high ground now.

And there are allot of people who think these guys are given more opportunities than should be given and opportunities most would not get the real world work place. If I test positive for drugs I'm gone period there is no second chance. Vick is just another in a long line of players who is getting a chance and many feel these guys don't deserve it. Yes they deserve their freedom when they have paid their due according to the law but do they deserve the opportunity of playing the game? Many do not feel that is the right thing to do and sends the message of another athlete not being held to the same standards as most.

I don't know what you do for a living but I'm willing to bet if you were involved in a highly lucrative industry and a member of a select group of people capable of doing what you did, a positive drug test wouldn't be the end of your career.

[Cajuncowboy]

You didn't say anything and I didn't claim you did, I was responding to the cartoon.

There's really nothing to defend, he committed a terrible crime and was punished by the law for it. What happens from here is up to him and like I said, there are plenty of players one could consider "trash", that still play in the NFL. It's a little too late to take the high ground now.

You think maybe you could now respond to my question about the NAACP getting involved? Do you think they would be doing this for a white guy in the same situation?

[Doomsday101]

You didn't say anything and I didn't claim you did, I was responding to the cartoon.

There's really nothing to defend, he committed a terrible crime and was punished by the law for it. What happens from here is up to him and like I said, there are plenty of players one could consider "trash", that still play in the NFL. It's a little too late to take the high ground now.



I don't know what you do for a living but I'm willing to bet if you were involved in a highly lucrative industry and a member of a select group of people capable of doing what you did, a positive drug test wouldn't be the end of your career.

So basically if you are a special person you deserve more chances than others? OK...Vick play a game nothing more than that maybe because we have so many star stuck people we have that put these individuals on a pedestal and above others. He is a ball player nothing more his playing does not do a damn thing for anyone of consequence.

[TheCount]

So basically if you are a special person you deserve more chances than others? OK...Vick play a game nothing more than that maybe because we have so many star stuck people we have that put these individuals on a pedestal and above others. He is a ball player nothing more his playing does not do a damn thing for anyone of consequence.

This is America. You get as many shots as someone is willing to give you. You want to argue about celebrity culture, feel free but it won't change as long as people are willing to shell out hundreds of dollars to see these players.

[Doomsday101]

This is America. You get as many shots as someone is willing to give you. You want to argue about celebrity culture, feel free but it won't change as long as people are willing to shell out hundreds of dollars to see these players.

Yes it is American which means some people will stand up and disagree with that and yes protest it too it is their American Right to do so. Hopefully one day people will wake up and stop acting like these players are more special than other people they are not. Some of these athletes are no more than street thugs with the physical ability to play a game

[TheCount]

Yes it is American which means some people will stand up and disagree with that and yes protest it too it is their American Right to do so. Hopefully one day people will wake up and stop acting like these players are more special than other people they are not. Some of these athletes are no more than street thugs with the physical ability to play a game

Well that would be ideal, but are you willing to give up the Cowboys and Football to prove your point? Money is the only thing the NFL will listen to.

[vta]

Hopefully one day people will wake up and stop acting like these players are more special than other people they are not. Some of these athletes are no more than street thugs with the physical ability to play a game

Well, that branches off into boycotting the whole shebang, bringing up an interesting question. Are you, (or anybody else) willing to give up on Cowboys games? The only thing giving the impression that they are special is the willingness of people to pay ridiculous amounts to sit in a stadium and watch them. As long as people are paying, nothing is changing. Money has clearly trumped morals and the want for this entertainment has also.

[bbgun]

Does this mean the Klan will be marching in support of Matt Jones?

[JBond]

Does this mean the Klan will be marching in support of Matt Jones?

lol. Can you imagine one of the conservatives on the board defending that? there would be a complete meltdown.

[Phrozen Phil]

I'm a bit puzzled by the choice the NAACP has made on this issue. While Vick has served his time, he's back, gainfully employed as a football player and states that he wants to get on with his life. He's not a paricularly good example of someone who has suffered as a result of racial discrimination.

Having a "massive" rally wouldn't seem like good strategy at this point. There are likely concerned folks who help animals who are also supporters of the NAACP. How do they feel about this? If he didn't encounter some difficulties as a result of his past from animal rights groups, I'd be surprised. It would not surprise me if the rally fizzles to some degree and I would hpe that folks could get back to the buisness of football. I do hope that Vick gets it together and at lest tries to mitigate some of the damage done.

[bbgun]

I'm a bit puzzled by the choice the NAACP has made on this issue. While Vick has served his time, he's back, gainfully employed as a football player and states that he wants to get on with his life. He's not a paricularly good example of someone who has suffered as a result of racial discrimination.

I think it's safe to say that none of these NAACP types would want Vick living next to them if his last name were "Smith."

[Bob Sacamano]

The NAACP is what it is, but to say their marching in support of a black person instantly makes it a race issue is reaching.

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just stop

[TheCount]

I think it's safe to say that none of these NAACP types would want Vick living next to them if his last name were "Smith."

http://blogs.bet.com/entertainment/spotlight/bet-blog/assets/2009/02/will-smith-400a314.jpg

Sure they would!

[Bob Sacamano]

I say count, you are great at playing Devil's Advocate

[TheCount]

I say count, you are great at playing Devil's Advocate

****, you're onto me!

[Bob Sacamano]

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[DaBoys4Life]

Wow.Wonder if they would be doing the same thing for Kevin Kolb, if it had been him?

Yes the NAACP would be marching for Kolb.....:rolleyes:

[bbgun]

Yes the NAACP would be marching for Kolb.....:rolleyes:

I once marched on Selma Thelma.

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[trickblue]

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Sure they would!

:muttley:

[trickblue]

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That is the greatest photoshop EVER... you can't even tell it was altered...

Well done, sir... well done...

[Bob Sacamano]

That is the greatest photoshop EVER... you can't even tell it was altered...

Well done, sir... well done...

whoohoo! thank you sir

[DIAF]

hahaha. Matt Mosley said that the NAACP MARCH was actually just 12 people at a table with some signs. Way to go, NAACP.

[iceberg]

lol, how are these local chapters of various organizations rallying for Vick a race issue? I fail to see how it would cause any problems other than the fact that it's Philly and they can turn anything into an issue. Everything race gets mentioned around here, it's racism.

and you're quick to say it's never racist.

so it goes.

[iceberg]

No, I said it wasn't a "race issue".

then why is race pointed out by an agency who's never nature is to advance the society of colored people?

would they rally to my side?
a hispanic?
a jew?

no.

if vick were not black they'd not care.

[trickblue]

hahaha. Matt Mosley said that the NAACP MARCH was actually just 12 people at a table with some signs. Way to go, NAACP.

It was stupid to begin with...

Michael Vick is an *******... but he served his time... let the man play football...

[JBond]

It was stupid to begin with...

Michael Vick is an *******... but he served his time... let the man play football...

I agree he should have been reinstated. I am disappointed someone gave him a job. I knew one or multiple owners would cave. Just glad it was not JJ.