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Tuna Helper
12-23-2004, 06:47 PM
I'm not sure if this is public yet. A friend of mine at teh LSU athletic director's office informed me of this.

LSU has counteroffered the Miami Dolphins for Nick Saban. The counteroffer is $4 million per year, beachfront property, personal use of a leer jet, and a $8 million annuity payable to him if he stays through 2010.

Miami has offered at least $5 million per year. Still not sure if Saban will stay at LSU.

Midswat
12-23-2004, 06:59 PM
I'm hoping he goes to Miami.

But thats because I'm a Tennessee fan . . .

Jon88
12-23-2004, 07:09 PM
I'm not sure if this is public yet. A friend of mine at teh LSU athletic director's office informed me of this.

LSU has counteroffered the Miami Dolphins for Nick Saban. The counteroffer is $4 million per year, beachfront property, personal use of a leer jet, and a $8 million annuity payable to him if he stays through 2010.

Miami has offered at least $5 million per year. Still not sure if Saban will stay at LSU.

If part of him wants to leave for the money, he's crazy. Sure, he'll make a lot of money in the NFL, but he'll never have time to spend it. Getting $4 million a year with an $8 million annuity AND a private jet is plenty. He'd have it good at LSU, but with his personality type I'm sure the NFL would always be in the back of his mind. I bet he leaves.

CaptainComeback
12-23-2004, 07:25 PM
I'm not sure if this is public yet. A friend of mine at teh LSU athletic director's office informed me of this.

LSU has counteroffered the Miami Dolphins for Nick Saban. The counteroffer is $4 million per year, beachfront property, personal use of a leer jet, and a $8 million annuity payable to him if he stays through 2010.

Miami has offered at least $5 million per year. Still not sure if Saban will stay at LSU.

I guess we'll find out how bad Saban wants to go to the next level.

SALADIN
12-23-2004, 07:29 PM
I'm not sure if this is public yet. A friend of mine at teh LSU athletic director's office informed me of this.

LSU has counteroffered the Miami Dolphins for Nick Saban. The counteroffer is $4 million per year, beachfront property, personal use of a leer jet, and a $8 million annuity payable to him if he stays through 2010.

Miami has offered at least $5 million per year. Still not sure if Saban will stay at LSU.

What, no yatch with the helepad on top?

calico
12-23-2004, 07:53 PM
Dammit...just go to MIAMI already...screw LSU so that RP comes to Texas.

Tuna Helper
12-23-2004, 08:06 PM
One possible replacement that has been rumored is Mike Stoops (now with Arizona). The other is Butch Davis, but he has no interest in coaching during the 2005 season (for personal issues as I have heard).

Yeagermeister
12-23-2004, 09:19 PM
I'm hoping he goes to Miami.

But thats because I'm a Tennessee fan . . .
Nothing sucks like a Big Orange

Roy Williams
12-23-2004, 11:04 PM
I guess we'll find out how bad Saban wants to go to the next level.


Don't forget that Saban has coached in the NFL before. He won't be a total green horn out there and would do an excellent job with the fish.

Midswat
12-23-2004, 11:29 PM
Nothing sucks like a Big Orange

That wasn't very nice . . .

But yeah . . . Tennessee has been under-achieving lately . . .

But we have two good young QB's in Schaeffer and Ainge . . .

jterrell
12-23-2004, 11:38 PM
Don't forget that Saban has coached in the NFL before. He won't be a total green horn out there and would do an excellent job with the fish.
Saban is going to be green. He'll be very green when it comes to personnel.
Has Saban been an NFL head coach?

That guy is vastly overrated. As was Spurrier and many other supposed wunderkid coaches.

It takes talent and you get that through an entire organization not 1 man. Then you have to coach it up which means great coordinators and position coaches.

When Jimmy came in he sucked. He had no clue about NFL offenses and his position coaches were all in over there head. In time he was able to build a very good staff and add talent by trading Walker and trading down liberally to accumulate a ton of picks.

I doubt any of that matters though because he'll probably stay at LSU. Coaching in college is much less time consuming, much more rewarding and certianly less volatile. If he goes to Miami he still needs a QB, RB and a lot of salary cap room. Saban is a defensive guy going to team that sucks on offense. Were I Saban I'd hold out for a better team. 99% of new coaches fail because they take crap jobs. Guys like Martz that succeed for a while has generally done so with a lot of talent in place.

Barry Switzer won a SB without really coaching anything. He didn't know the defensive or offensive calls. Norv Turner who really knows offense extremely well keeps failing because he has no talent or talent evaluators to get him talent.

Miami has never been bad long in decades. They won't have a long honeymoon with Saban who has no NFL skins. And did I mention the lack of talent in Miami? The defense is featuring a lot of older guys or guys who are coming up for big pay days.

SuspectCorner
12-23-2004, 11:49 PM
now, see. a zone member posted that saban had taken the miami job and i took it as gospel. on the drive to work i'm listening to the local radio "sports jaws" and i find out it ISN'T signed, sealed, and delivered after all. is saban just checking the market to see what it will bear? or is he really waiting for one of a certain few NFL HC positions to "open up"? i love the "ego" guys 'cuz they're the ones we can land when we're in the market? saban is a disciple of belichek - which makes him, indirectly, a disciple of parcells. who knows? he may stay with LSU a few more years - waiting for the jerry jones midnight flight that will land him as the next coach of the cowboys. it's a given he will take an NFL team over eventually. here's hoping he will hold out for 3 or 4 more years (until the tuna figures his job is done).

Tuna Helper
12-24-2004, 08:20 AM
Saban is going to be green. He'll be very green when it comes to personnel.
Has Saban been an NFL head coach?

That guy is vastly overrated. As was Spurrier and many other supposed wunderkid coaches.

It takes talent and you get that through an entire organization not 1 man. Then you have to coach it up which means great coordinators and position coaches.

When Jimmy came in he sucked. He had no clue about NFL offenses and his position coaches were all in over there head. In time he was able to build a very good staff and add talent by trading Walker and trading down liberally to accumulate a ton of picks.

I doubt any of that matters though because he'll probably stay at LSU. Coaching in college is much less time consuming, much more rewarding and certianly less volatile. If he goes to Miami he still needs a QB, RB and a lot of salary cap room. Saban is a defensive guy going to team that sucks on offense. Were I Saban I'd hold out for a better team. 99% of new coaches fail because they take crap jobs. Guys like Martz that succeed for a while has generally done so with a lot of talent in place.

Barry Switzer won a SB without really coaching anything. He didn't know the defensive or offensive calls. Norv Turner who really knows offense extremely well keeps failing because he has no talent or talent evaluators to get him talent.

Miami has never been bad long in decades. They won't have a long honeymoon with Saban who has no NFL skins. And did I mention the lack of talent in Miami? The defense is featuring a lot of older guys or guys who are coming up for big pay days.

Saban overrated? Surely you are kidding.

Do not forget that the LSU program stunk, and stunk really bad before he took over. The players that won the National Championship last year were all his players, ones that he recruited. He didn't turn this thing around overnight.

Believe me, I didn't think LSU would make him the highest paid coach in college football, but they did. This was in his contract if he won the National Championship. He makes exactly $1 more per year than Bob Stoops.

Have you ever seen college programs get into a bidding war with an NFL team? Probably not, but LSU wants to keep Saban for a long time. There are reasons for that...the guy is not overrated.

jimmy40
12-24-2004, 08:22 AM
I'm not sure if this is public yet. A friend of mine at teh LSU athletic director's office informed me of this.

LSU has counteroffered the Miami Dolphins for Nick Saban. The counteroffer is $4 million per year, beachfront property, personal use of a leer jet, and a $8 million annuity payable to him if he stays through 2010.

Miami has offered at least $5 million per year. Still not sure if Saban will stay at LSU.Why is this on the Cowboys forum?

Tuna Helper
12-24-2004, 08:59 AM
Why is this on the Cowboys forum?

Our next head coach is being courted by the Dolphins.

jimmy40
12-24-2004, 09:01 AM
Our next head coach is being courted by the Dolphins.Bob Stoops?

Avery
12-24-2004, 11:04 AM
It's insane to pay a college coach that much money a year. In a non-profit driven world, they would use that money to upgrade their learning facilities and give professors an increase in salary.

Welcome to today.

Noone
12-24-2004, 11:55 AM
MOST athletic salaries come from sources other than the university.
Alot of colleges make money FROM athletics while putting no money in.

If Nick Saban wants to coach in the NFL, then no amount of money will stop him from being in Miami next season.

Lastly, Nick Saban isn't the kind of coach who could co-exist with Jerry Jones.
Saban's ego is tremendously huge.

:skins:

lkelly
12-24-2004, 12:08 PM
It's insane to pay a college coach that much money a year. In a non-profit driven world, they would use that money to upgrade their learning facilities and give professors an increase in salary.

Welcome to today.

They'll just divert the money that was going to the players from boosters and stick it in Saban's pocket instead.

Don't think that all the money that they would use to keep Saban is coming out of general academic funds. There are certainly big businessmen who want LSU to do well who are offering to write hefty checks to keep him around. I imagine one probably has a jet as well...

dbair1967
12-24-2004, 12:08 PM
Lastly, Nick Saban isn't the kind of coach who could co-exist with Jerry Jones.
Saban's ego is tremendously huge.

:skins:

and Parcells' ego isnt?

David