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CowboysFanSince88
09-05-2009, 03:26 PM
The New Channel produced by the NFL Network which is "Redzone" will premiere on 9/13/09 at 1pm to 7:30pm. This channel will allow NFL fans to see live action all around the league once a team gets in the redzone during the 1pm and 4pm games. So now that this channel will go from game to game so viewers can see live redzone acton, is it worth paying $200 for the Sunday Ticket?

SDogo
09-05-2009, 03:32 PM
I would prefer to see the whole game then the 2 or 3 minutes a team spends in the Redzone per game.

zeroburrito
09-05-2009, 03:33 PM
would you rather watch a whole game or just parts where they are in the redzone?

Hypnotoad
09-05-2009, 03:34 PM
I think its good for fantasy team owners who don't have any specific games of interest at that time.

But I would rather watch a Cowboys game or an NFC East rival play instead of Red Zone cam.

Plus you wont know what your missing if you just watch the redzone.

mwj473
09-05-2009, 03:34 PM
The New Channel produced by the NFL Network which is "Redzone" will premiere on 9/13/09 at 1pm to 7:30pm. This channel will allow NFL fans to see live action all around the league once a team gets in the redzone during the 1pm and 4pm games. So now that this channel will go from game to game so viewers can see live redzone acton, is it worth paying $200 for the Sunday Ticket?

I don't think it will have any effect on the Purchase of Sunday Ticket. Most people purchase ST to follow a team, not to watch when someone is close to scoring. I purchase it to watch the Cowboys when they are playing. I don't really care when the Bears are in the red zone and the Boys are playing.

If the Boys aren't playing, I usually flip it around to watch teams I want to lose.

Avaj
09-05-2009, 03:35 PM
Redzone is good in theory but it doesn't take place of watching a whole game. The plays that count are the ones that got the team in the redzone in the first place, why would you not want to see that.

CowboysFanSince88
09-05-2009, 03:37 PM
I think it was a great idea because the switch to each game has a purpose. When switching games at home a team maybe on their own 10 yd line and it's 3rd and 15.

Also I'm talking about the times when the Cowboys are not playing.

arglebargle
09-05-2009, 03:58 PM
Short attention span theater....

Big Dakota
09-05-2009, 04:24 PM
What sort of fan would rather watch parts of the game as opposed to the entire game? Only reason i can think of is if they can't afford the ticket.

LeonDixson
09-05-2009, 04:28 PM
I love the red zone channel and watch it whenever the Cowboys aren't playing or there is no other game I want to see in it's entirety. There are also very few commercials too so you don't have to endure commercials after the score, then the kickoff, then a bunch more commercials before the receiving team plays a down.

CowboysFanSince88
09-05-2009, 04:30 PM
What sort of fan would rather watch parts of the game as opposed to the entire game? Only reason i can think of is if they can't afford the ticket.


Look, up until now fans without the Sunday Ticket never has a great opportunity like this on football sunday. Redzone sounds great to me because you will see live scoring drives. So i bet anyone without the Ticket will accept REDZONE coverage only which something brand new.

Randy White
09-05-2009, 04:57 PM
The New Channel produced by the NFL Network which is "Redzone" will premiere on 9/13/09 at 1pm to 7:30pm. This channel will allow NFL fans to see live action all around the league once a team gets in the redzone during the 1pm and 4pm games. So now that this channel will go from game to game so viewers can see live redzone acton, is it worth paying $200 for the Sunday Ticket?


I'd gladly pay $200 for the Sunday Ticket.

Problem is that they've raised it to $280.00.

CowboysFanSince88
09-05-2009, 05:01 PM
I'd gladly pay $200 for the Sunday Ticket.

Problem is that they've raised it to $280.00.


Well that means you are wasting money.

Randy White
09-05-2009, 05:06 PM
Well that means you are wasting money.

So far, no.. but it's getting very close to that line..

very close.

Mansta54
09-05-2009, 05:08 PM
would you rather watch a whole game or just parts where they are in the redzone?

You better stick with the NFL TICKET cause the Foreskins rarely reach the Redzone.....:laugh2: That offense sucks!!!!!

Rogah
09-05-2009, 05:11 PM
So far, no.. but it's getting very close to that line..

very close.I love Sunday Ticket. Say the Cowboys have the late game and there's 8 early games being played... I am not going to sit there and focus on only 1 game, missing the action in 7 others. It's not about attention span, it's about the fact that I would rather watch a touchdown then a 2 yard run off tackle on 2nd and 7. You get split screens when multiple games are in the red zone and instant highlights of any big play.

Plus RZC has no commercials - except when Andrew Siciliano (the host) tries to get us to buy the DirecTV NFL Remote Control.

CowboysFanSince88
09-05-2009, 05:15 PM
So far, no.. but it's getting very close to that line..

very close.


And it will continue to go up

Big Dakota
09-05-2009, 05:16 PM
And it will continue to go up

I'd pay 3 times that to see every Cowboys game.

CowboysFanSince88
09-05-2009, 05:20 PM
I'd pay 3 times that to see every Cowboys game.

Well Living in Philly you get 85% of Cowboys games without the ticket

lspain1
09-05-2009, 05:56 PM
Well Living in Philly you get 85% of Cowboys games without the ticket

Yes but living in Florida with 3 teams not in the NFC East means I would miss a bunch of Cowboys games. For me, Sunday Ticket is a Godsend....and yes I also enjoy the RedZone channel.

theogt
09-05-2009, 06:02 PM
I will never watch this. How pointless is it to just watch redzone performances? The best part of the game is the meat and potatoes drive down the field. Or the 3 and out forced by a stout defense.

CowboysFanSince88
09-05-2009, 06:14 PM
I will never watch this. How pointless is it to just watch redzone performances? The best part of the game is the meat and potatoes drive down the field. Or the 3 and out forced by a stout defense.

The Redzone is for fans without the Ticket

theogt
09-05-2009, 06:16 PM
The Redzone is for fans without the TicketAnd my point is, what kind of fan would care to watch this?

CowboysFanSince88
09-05-2009, 06:17 PM
And my point is, what kind of fan would care to watch this?


1. Fan who can't get Directv like me
2. Fan who can't afford $280 for the Ticket

theogt
09-05-2009, 06:18 PM
1. Fan who can't get Directv like me
2. Fan who can't afford $280 for the TicketAre you intentionally being obtuse? This isn't a substitute for Sunday Ticket.

CowboysFanSince88
09-05-2009, 06:21 PM
Are you intentionally being obtuse? This isn't a substitute for Sunday Ticket.


I never said it was a subsitute but would you agree it's a lot better than what I had last season? Which was no opportunity to see Live game action from around the league for 1pm and 4pm games.

And who watches a whole game on the ticket anyway from start to finish?

Randy White
09-05-2009, 06:24 PM
And who watches a whole game on the ticket anyway from start to finish?


I haven't done that since I started playing fantasy football..


:laugh2:

CowboysFanSince88
09-05-2009, 06:27 PM
I haven't done that since I started playing fantasy football..


:laugh2:



Exactly, only people without the option to switch watches an entire game from start to finish.

theogt
09-05-2009, 06:27 PM
I haven't done that since I started playing fantasy football..That's a good point. People that watch football for fantasy football would love this. I guess that's who it's directed at.

I'm not a huge FFL guy, though, so yeah I like watching entire games. Or at least large chunks of games. You can't gauge how good a team or player is just by looking at their redzone performances.

And the only reason I'd get Sunday Ticket is to watch every Cowboys game.

theogt
09-05-2009, 06:29 PM
Exactly, only people without the option to switch watches an entire game from start to finish.Again, you're missing the entire point. This has nothing to do with watching an ENTIRE game. It has everything to do with not JUST watching redzone performances.

Gibby!
09-05-2009, 06:30 PM
Could be good towards the end of the season when the playoff race starts heating up. Sometimes its nice to know (e.g. see) how the other teams score or defenses stop them. If I had PIP I would probably watch it that way during commercial breaks etc. But probably not so much during the regular season.

And as someone else said, when no games of interest are on, the fantasy guys are going to eat it up... Like me.

HowAboutThemCowboys
09-05-2009, 08:37 PM
The percentage of people that actually get NFLN is so small that it really doesnt matter anyway.

CowboysFanSince88
09-05-2009, 08:39 PM
The percentage of people that actually get NFLN is so small that it really doesnt matter anyway.


Someone should have Comcast or DirectV. What other cale provider matters?

zeroburrito
09-05-2009, 09:53 PM
time warner? who on earth would want direct tv? cable and sports bar > sunday ticket.

CowboysFanSince88
09-05-2009, 10:00 PM
time warner? who on earth would want direct tv? cable and sports bar > sunday ticket.

It's time for Time Warner to step up their entertainment game and get the NFLN

playmakers
09-05-2009, 10:51 PM
Depends on your preference. I would rather sit at home and listen to color commentary and switch to any game I want. I did the whole bar thing when I was 18(friend got me in) and it was cool but what I didnt like was watching the game your shoulder to shoulder with everyone. The only thing I miss from that is when your team does good the fanbase in the bar went nuts. That was cool. Im from the Philly area and along the back wall of the bar was all Eagle fans. In the side of the bar was all Steeler fans(lots of them) and along the front wall of the bar was all Cowboy fans. On the other side of the bar was the miscellaneous fan base. Im just real picky and when the Cowboys are on I get somewhat intense.

This channel is just a tease. It will prolly make you mad after a while. The Cowboys are on the 7 yard line on 2nd down and your hear "we're get back to that game in a second lets go to the Detriot-Jags game where Det is on the 2 yard line.

CowboysFanSince88
09-05-2009, 10:57 PM
Depends on your preference. I would rather sit at home and listen to color commentary and switch to any game I want. I did the whole bar thing when I was 18(friend got me in) and it was cool but what I didnt like was watching the game your shoulder to shoulder with everyone. The only thing I miss from that is when your team does good the fanbase in the bar went nuts. That was cool. Im from the Philly area and along the back wall of the bar was all Eagle fans. In the side of the bar was all Steeler fans(lots of them) and along the front wall of the bar was all Cowboy fans. On the other side of the bar was the miscellaneous fan base. Im just real picky and when the Cowboys are on I get somewhat intense.

This channel is just a tease. It will prolly make you mad after a while. The Cowboys are on the 7 yard line on 2nd down and your hear "we're get back to that game in a second lets go to the Detriot-Jags game where Det is on the 2 yard line.


I want to believe they will stick with the game until the team scores a TD or has to kick a FG. I could not see them cutting away from a game when a team is on the 7 yd line when the channel is called redzone

Don Corleone
09-06-2009, 05:13 AM
I'd gladly pay $200 for the Sunday Ticket.

Problem is that they've raised it to $280.00.

I'm sure the extra $80 increase over the past 10 years has taken food off of your table.

Don Corleone
09-06-2009, 05:16 AM
I'd pay 3 times that to see every Cowboys game.


...and people like you drive the price up...

tyke1doe
09-06-2009, 10:51 AM
I would prefer to see the whole game then the 2 or 3 minutes a team spends in the Redzone per game.

Agreed. Besides, the purpose of the NFL Sunday Ticket is to see games when you want to see them, not when a network switcher decides you should see it.

Besides, it only lowers the price for Sunday Ticket, and you can use it as a bargaining chip this year or next year.

"I'm really looking to keep Sunday Ticket but there's this new "Redzone" channel and I'm contemplating making the switch. Can you tell me how your service may rival this ..."

Big Dakota
09-06-2009, 10:53 AM
...and people like you drive the price up...

Says the guy with the high end car for an avatar.


I can afford it so i don't care:laugh1:

tyke1doe
09-06-2009, 10:55 AM
1. Fan who can't get Directv like me
2. Fan who can't afford $280 for the Ticket


I'd gladly pay $200 for the Sunday Ticket.

Problem is that they've raised it to $280.00.


You must not have cashed in on the deals DirecTV was giving for the Sunday Ticket.

I have it and was scheduled to pay about $370 (I have the HD channels). I was seriously considering dropping the service, particular since my salary has been reduced due to economic hardtimes.

I called and said, "I really like the Sunday Ticket but my salary has been reduced. What can you offer me to keep me as a customer?"

Both line: I'm now getting the Sunday Ticket for ... $130 AND I get to keep the HD games.

If someone is paying the higher price, they're being taken to the cleaners. DirecTV has been offering such deals for awhile. You just have to talk to them. They don't want to lose customers so they're willing to give you some deals to keep the service.

CowboysFanSince88
09-06-2009, 11:34 AM
You must not have cashed in on the deals DirecTV was giving for the Sunday Ticket.

I have it and was scheduled to pay about $370 (I have the HD channels). I was seriously considering dropping the service, particular since my salary has been reduced due to economic hardtimes.

I called and said, "I really like the Sunday Ticket but my salary has been reduced. What can you offer me to keep me as a customer?"

Both line: I'm now getting the Sunday Ticket for ... $130 AND I get to keep the HD games.

If someone is paying the higher price, they're being taken to the cleaners. DirecTV has been offering such deals for awhile. You just have to talk to them. They don't want to lose customers so they're willing to give you some deals to keep the service.



I'm unable to get Directv because the signal is not available in my area which is why the Redzone Channel will make my sundays more entertaining.

diekrazy
09-06-2009, 11:49 AM
Do the math guys everyone that has DirecTV is paying for the ticket whether they have it or not. They do not have enough subscribers to the ticket to pay for the cost of carrying it so they pass the cost to the rest of the subscribers.

sadams
09-06-2009, 11:52 AM
Does anybody know of any live internet streams for Cowboy games?

Week 1 I really dont want to go to the bar to watch the cowboys.

Cochese
09-06-2009, 11:54 AM
time warner? who on earth would want direct tv? cable and sports bar > sunday ticket.


directv>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>cable.

sadams
09-06-2009, 11:56 AM
directv>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>cable.

unless its raining.

I had directv but now I'm with verizon and not planning to switch b/c their HD signal is good, and the internet service is smoking.

There must be a website that streams nfl games. Anybody know of one?

Cochese
09-06-2009, 11:59 AM
unless its raining.

I had directv but now I'm with verizon and not planning to switch b/c their HD signal is good, and the internet service is smoking.

There must be a website that streams nfl games. Anybody know of one?


Sounds like comcrap corporate propaganda. I never lose picture.

Danny White
09-10-2009, 09:46 PM
I just used the NFL Network "RedZone" feature as tool to get free Superfan and a hefty discount on Sunday Ticket.

I'm a Sunday Ticket subscriber and have been since its inception. But I just called and said I wanted to cancel and get a refund because now I could just watch the NFLN's RedZone.

They gave me an additional $60 discount on Sunday Ticket and free Superfan to keep me from cancelling.

Pretty Sweet!

CowboysFanSince88
09-10-2009, 09:56 PM
I just used the NFL Network "RedZone" feature as tool to get free Superfan and a hefty discount on Sunday Ticket.

I'm a Sunday Ticket subscriber and have been since its inception. But I just called and said I wanted to cancel and get a refund because now I could just watch the NFLN's RedZone.

They gave me an additional $60 discount on Sunday Ticket and free Superfan to keep me from cancelling.

Pretty Sweet!


Wish I had that option with SH*TCast