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irvin88
12-27-2004, 06:43 PM
The Cowboys have had to play all season without their defensive captain and leader Darren Woodson.

Now it appears they'll have to get used to doing so for good.

Woodson, who missed the entire 2004 season after undergoing surgery to repair a herniated disk on July 27, just three days before the start of training camp, is expected to announce his retirement later this week.

Cowboys owner and general manager Jerry Jones was rather blunt when asked Monday morning on a local radio station KTCK The Ticket if his career was over.

"Yes," Jones said emphatically. "You know, I think we've got to recognize that. I'm not sure when we and he will make it official."

No official announcement has been planned, but it is expected to occur by the end of the week, and with that will come the end to a glorious 13-year career.

Woodson, the Cowboys' all-time leading tackler with 1,350, has been the vocal leader of the defense nearly since the day he arrived in 1992. The former second-round draft pick needed only one year to assert himself as one of team's top defensive players. Woodson has started 160 games for the Cowboys, earning five trips to the Pro Bowl - only two defensive backs (Mel Renfro 10, Cliff Harris 6) have been to more in club history.

Cowboys head coach Bill Parcells, during his normal Monday afternoon press conference at Valley Ranch, hinted at the possibility Woodson would be hanging it up.

"I don't know, but I think as this week winds down that there might be something on that," Parcells said. "We've talked a little bit. This hasn't been good for him this year, so I don't know. That'd be for Darren to comment on, not me. I haven't had any real formal discussion on it but we probably would at the end of the season."

Woodson appeared ready to play his 13th season for the Cowboys until suffering the back injury, but at the time was projected to miss no more than the preseason games and possibly the first one or two games of the season. But his recovery certainly didn't proceed as well and as fast as anticipated. The surgery caused a problem in his sciatic nerve, the longest single nerve in the body that connects the spinal cord with the leg and foot muscles.

Woodson was initially placed on Physically Unable to Perform (PUP)), which shelved the safety for the first six weeks of the season. He was eligible to return to practice on Oct. 18, but Parcells said that day Woodson was "absolutely not ready" to practice and even the safety himself said he was still limping around.

Being on PUP gave Woodson a two-week window to return to practice, and then another three weeks for him to practice without taking up a roster spot. Still, the Cowboys were hoping he could return for the final part of a struggling season.

But as the weeks went by, and the losses started to mount, not only did it seem unlikely the Cowboys would make a playoff push, but it just didn't make much sense for Woodson to rush back onto the field.

"I think that's one thing Coach Parcells always talks about," Woodson said in an interview on Oct. 18. "If you're gonna play and get out there on Sundays, you're gonna have to practice hard, get a little battle-hardened and then we'll see if you're in shape and then you can go out and play. I know I'm not there just yet."

And as it turned out, Woodson never got there.

And the Cowboys struggled without him. Four-year veteran Tony Dixon was given the chance to fill the void, but he started just six games before being replaced by Lynn Scott in the starting lineup. Scott has been adequate, recording a sack and his first career interception in the last three games, but neither player has come remotely close to adequately replacing Woodson. Especially his leadership.

More than anything, Woodson's absence has affected the play of third-year pro Roy Williams, who has been forced to play more in coverage this season and less around the line of scrimmage. Williams, who was still elected to his second Pro Bowl last week, has not recorded a sack this year and has just four tackles behind the line of scrimmage.

"I think you saw the impact on our defense this year," Jones said on The Ticket of Woody's absence.

But Parcells has tried not to use Woodson's injury as an excuse. But face it, the Cowboys finished the 2003 season with the league's No. 1 in total defense and this year have slipped to 21st heading into the season finale against the Giants Sunday night.

"We haven't had him all year," Parcells said of Woodson. "Other guys have had to step up there. We can't say he's the reason we've struggled on defense. He hasn't been there all year."

As the prospect of Woodson playing again this year started to dwindle, talks of him possibly retiring after this year did start to surface. Woodson would never give a definitive answer on if he would indeed return for another season or call it quits at the end of the season.

But his vagueness all along appeared to be a dead give away, and now for a player who will turn 36 before next year's April draft, Woodson is ready to confirm just that.

The veteran safety can take his 13 years, his three Super Bowl rings, five Pro Bowls and all 1,350 tackles with him and call it a day.

irvin88
12-27-2004, 06:46 PM
too bad Woody was a classy player. If he was more of a punk he'd be a lock to make the hall. ;) But all of us know how good he was. Could play both safety spots at pro bowl level and cover receivers. IMO, Roy Williams will be considered better than him when Roy retires because he hit harder, but he aint close to the player Woodson was.

Jimz31
12-27-2004, 06:58 PM
I wouldn't mind seeing him come back as a coach for RW and the other players that really needed him this year. Perhaps he could help speed RW along in recognizing offenses etc.

Did everybody see RW talking to Woodson during that timeout?

irvin88
12-27-2004, 07:03 PM
he would be a great coach. Who the hell coaches our secondary now anyways??

Nors
12-27-2004, 07:06 PM
You just do not recover from multiple disc operations at his age. In fact I know someone that had similar - the next step is a rod in the back that would preclude any future normal activity. In some instances the ability to sit. Not worth it - JJ paid him a years salary as a hope, favor. Good Luck Wood - you were a great here.

Boy's fan in Giant land
12-27-2004, 07:15 PM
I was afraid it would come to this. Woody is a class act. He will be missed.

Eskimo
12-27-2004, 07:24 PM
I must say that he has always been one of my favourites but I have been expecting this since June when I learned of the severity of his injury.

In terms of the salary cap, he has $1.6M SB that will get accelerated into the 2005 cap. Nevertheless, there will be $2.7M cap savings from the 2005 cap as his salary was $3.5M with a cap cost of $4.3M.

Eskimo
12-27-2004, 07:27 PM
You just do not recover from multiple disc operations at his age. In fact I know someone that had similar - the next step is a rod in the back that would preclude any future normal activity. In some instances the ability to sit. Not worth it - JJ paid him a years salary as a hope, favor. Good Luck Wood - you were a great here.

Nors, you're jumping the gun here.

I think the main issue with Woodson has been the nerve damage in his calf from the disk. The funny thing is there is often little correlation between pain and nerve damage when it comes to disks. He looked quite comfortable standing on the sidelines yesterday, so I hope he is not in too much discomfort.

The vast majority of people in his condition do not go on to require the type of surgery you are suggesting.

Lifer
12-27-2004, 07:55 PM
We'll miss you, Woody.

The30YardSlant
12-27-2004, 07:59 PM
Woodson will have a coaching job, probabaly with Dallas, within the next 5 years, probably as a DB coach. Book it.

jsond
12-27-2004, 08:01 PM
not a surprise at all..thanks for the memories Darren!

Big D
12-27-2004, 08:35 PM
"We haven't had him all year," Parcells said of Woodson. "Other guys have had to step up there. We can't say he's the reason we've struggled on defense. He hasn't been there all year."


He's not the reason, his absence is.

DoomsDayD
12-27-2004, 09:53 PM
Shame to see a good player like woodson to go out like that. Shall be missed greatly...as evident this year.

Nors
12-27-2004, 10:02 PM
Nors, you're jumping the gun here.

I think the main issue with Woodson has been the nerve damage in his calf from the disk. The funny thing is there is often little correlation between pain and nerve damage when it comes to disks. He looked quite comfortable standing on the sidelines yesterday, so I hope he is not in too much discomfort.

The vast majority of people in his condition do not go on to require the type of surgery you are suggesting.

You are right the vast majority never face that option, but it was presented to an average joe as a potential downside.

Vast majority not taking NFL hits either............ He's done - great career. Reggie White another signal what these guys do to their bodies. Read an article once the life expectancy of an NFL player is like 15 years shorter than the national average. I bet brain damage is a serious contributor there. :(


Look at Earl Campbell -

Eskimo
12-27-2004, 10:08 PM
You are right the vast majority never face that option, but it was presented to an average joe as a potential downside.

Vast majority not taking NFL hits either............ He's done - great career. Reggie White another signal what these guys do to their bodies. Read an article once the life expectancy of an NFL player is like 15 years shorter than the national average. I bet brain damage is a serious contributor there. :(


Look at Earl Campbell -

It's an incredibly tough life.

I remember when I was a university student and remember Robert Smith opting off the OSU team to concentrate on studies (he was pre-med) and thinking he was nuts. I figured tons of people could become doctors but not many people had his sort of natural athletic ability.

Then I remember him suddenly leaving the Vikings and also thought his decision a bit odd.

Now I've been working with athletes for the past few years and I realize why he did it. It is the ugly side of the sport that few people ever see. The amount of times we have to hold these kids back for their own good is shocking - they're always trying to hide their injuries from us.

Robert Smith is a pretty smart guy.

Nors
12-27-2004, 10:37 PM
It's an incredibly tough life.

I remember when I was a university student and remember Robert Smith opting off the OSU team to concentrate on studies (he was pre-med) and thinking he was nuts. I figured tons of people could become doctors but not many people had his sort of natural athletic ability.

Then I remember him suddenly leaving the Vikings and also thought his decision a bit odd.

Now I've been working with athletes for the past few years and I realize why he did it. It is the ugly side of the sport that few people ever see. The amount of times we have to hold these kids back for their own good is shocking - they're always trying to hide their injuries from us.

Robert Smith is a pretty smart guy.

I had a high school teamate that had at least 5 concussions in high school. Doctors were a tad out of touch then. Coaches always put him back out there cuz he was a stud. Kid never saw his 35th birthday, "natural causes". Coincidence?

Zman5
12-27-2004, 10:40 PM
You just do not recover from multiple disc operations at his age. In fact I know someone that had similar - the next step is a rod in the back that would preclude any future normal activity. In some instances the ability to sit. Not worth it - JJ paid him a years salary as a hope, favor. Good Luck Wood - you were a great here.


I thinks he can still play few more seasons. He just needs drink more MILK.
Go Milk Woodson. Go!

TruBlueCowboy
12-27-2004, 10:44 PM
Sad. Sad. Sad. There goes the last "old school" player from the 90's dyasty. (Wierd calling the 90's team old school but I think there all already a generation of fans who don't remember that team.)

Larry Allen is the last one from the 90's dynasty.

I think we all hoped that Woody could come back but we all knew realistically he was done a long time ago after hearing about the details of the injury.

You were one of the greats Woody. They don't make 'em like that anymore. :bull:

Hostile
12-27-2004, 11:16 PM
I am going to miss this guy so much. Great player. Wish more people had his heart and character.

phildominator
12-28-2004, 01:07 AM
Reflections of my all-time favorite Cowboy...

#28 is my only GameDay jersey. A class act on the field and off the field. He was always a solid and consistent player, played hard, never dirty. The things that stick out in my mind when I think of his career -

1. Returning an INT for a TD against PHI in Veterans Stadium.
2. Getting tossed during the "TO on the Star" game.
3. During the PHI-DAL playoff game, he put a devastating hit on Rodney Peete giving Peete a concussion, rendering him useless for the rest of the game as the Cowboys stomped all over the Eagles enroute to a Super Bowl win.
4. His United Way commercial.
5. Several times looking at the Pro Bowl rosters and getting pissed that Darren Sharper, Eugene Robinson or John Lynch were selected over Woodson.
6. Drafted a Dallas Cowboy, retiring as a Dallas Cowboy.
7. Being the Cowboys all-time franchise tackles leader.

Jack Burton
12-28-2004, 02:39 AM
Thanks for everything Woodson, and good luck with whatever your future holds.

You are the true definition of a Dallas Cowboy, and I'm glad I got the chance to enjoy your great career.

Sarge
12-28-2004, 06:00 AM
he would be a great coach. Who the hell coaches our secondary now anyways??

Apparently no one.

Yeagermeister
12-28-2004, 07:13 AM
Good luck in life Woody. He'll always be one of my all time favorite Cowboys. Jerry needs to get off his butt and start putting some of the players from the 90's in the ring.

:jints:

The Curly One
12-28-2004, 08:02 AM
Someone said he is quiet and did not have any major run ins with the law or other players. Will that hurt him from getting in the Hall of Fame?
Seems like some of the more contraversial (sp) players love them or hate them are the ones who go to the Hall of Fame. Woodson just quietly did his job and did it well.
Hall of Fame?
What do you think?
Curly

BrAinPaiNt
12-28-2004, 08:36 AM
The guy was a class act on and off the field and he was always a team player first.

I can not think of one negative thing to say about woodson.

He will be missed and I, as a fan, thank him for all the great years he gave to the team and all of the fans.

Best wishes to him and his loved ones and I hope he goes into broadcasting and becomes a great in that area as well.

Thanks D.Woodson for being a great Dallas Cowboy.

Nors
12-28-2004, 08:41 AM
The guy was a class act on and off the field and he was always a team player first.

I can not think of one negative thing to say about woodson.

He will be missed and I, as a fan, thank him for all the great years he gave to the team and all of the fans.

Best wishes to him and his loved ones and I hope he goes into broadcasting and becomes a great in that area as well.

Thanks D.Woodson for being a great Dallas Cowboy.

He's right there - I can see him making it. Gotta love a College LB make the shift to Safety look so easy.

SA_Gunslinger
12-28-2004, 12:55 PM
sad he has to go out this way, but what a tremendous career.

he'll always be one of my favorite cowboys!!!!

i'm glad i saw him break the team tackles record in person!!!!


thanks for all the memories, and great hits!

OLDSCHOOL
12-28-2004, 01:04 PM
That's good. Because I would not want to see him try to play again and really do some serious damage to his back.
Once he went down with the back injury I said he was done, I knew it. The way he hits he would only have hurt himself worse by coming back.