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Chuck 54
12-27-2004, 07:34 PM
I was probably the first person on this site to crack on Vinny Testeverde back when it was just a rumor that he'd come here as a backup. I claimed we'd never bring in a QB that old and that crappy to Dallas when there were so many guys available like Collins, Warner, etc.

I was wrong about that, but I was right when I said Vinny had never been very good and couldn't be expected to be a starter over Carter now or ever. I claimed that whether he started out well or poorly, he'd fade as the season went along...I was wrong about his starting, but correct on his fade.

However, I simply don't understand the venom directed his way by fans in Texas Stadium or on this message board, the same fans who praised him up and down when he was putting up big numbers early in the season.

Vinny Testeverde is clearly the best QB we have, and by a wide margin....if you don't believe that, then you should stop calling Parcells a HOF coach, stop using the phrase "Trust in Bill," and call for his immediate dismissal as an over-the-hill idiot who can't direct this team to anything better than what we've seen this year. To keep singing Parcells' praises and trusting that he will straighten this mess out, and yet keep calling for Romo or Henson to start instead of Vinny is to ignore everything Parcells has said and hinted at between the lines all year long.

Romo sucks, but he is more ready than Henson. Henson sucks and isn't close to being ready to hit the NFL stage...if he was, he'd be ahead of Romo. They both leave a great deal to be desired, and neither could start for any team in the NFL...if either could, then he'd be playing ahead of Testeverde who couldn't find a starting gig anywhere but Dallas though some teams wanted him as a backup to their youngsters.

If you refuse to believe this simple fact about our two young QBs, then you should come out of the closet and admit that you think Parcells sucks and doesn't know what he's doing and can't judge these two young guys without putting them in a game...because that's what you are saying...you don't trust Parcells ability to know when either is even close to being ready. IN that case, it's definitely time for him to retire moreso than Vinny, so we can look for a new coach who knows what he's doing and won't hurt our future like Bill is doing.

You can't have it both ways...Parcells can't be a good football coach for the Dallas Cowboys and be soooooo ignorant and wrong about Romo and Henson. To present any argument for why he has stuck with Vinny rather than play these guys other than the fact that in practice they aren't very good at all, not even close, is just plain illogical and can't be supported. Loyalty? Veteran crazy? These are lame excuses...if they are true, then Parcells doesn't deserve the HOF or the Cowboys. He's never been loyal...he's always been about winning.

Now, don't get me wrong...I never liked hiring Parcells because I've never liked him, and I never liked bringing in Vinny because I had no faith in him. I still don't like Parcells, but Vinny has proven to be better than I ever thought he'd be despite his INT's....since Glenn went down, he's been in a similar situation to the one Carter was in....it's been a long long time since any QB, including Aikman, had a real go-to big time WR on this team and a decent sidekick.

I don't want to see Romo or Henson....not unless Parcells thinks they are more prepared than Henson was on T-DAy...say what you will about him being pulled too early, but he was awful and he was pulled not because guys couldn't get open against the BEars but because he was lost, couldn't read the blitz or find anyone to throw the ball to, much less the right someone.

If you think a coach who's HOF material needs to see a QB in a real game to see that he's ready, then you are in denial. When a coach sees a QB lighting it up in practice, looking like an All-star in shorts, and doing everything right to expose the defense during practice, yes, he has to see it in a game against the other guys to know for sure, to validate his opinion that this guy is ready. But when a coach thinks a guy stinks, can't read a defense, can't find the right guys or read the blitz or play instinctively in practice, he doesn't need to throw him in a real game against the enemy at a faster pace and against more complicated and surprising game day defenses to see that maybe the guy is better in the game....that's insane.

I don't like Parcells, but I trust him in judging when his QB is ready just as he judged that JJ wasn't ready for prime time at the start of the season, but later that he was really ready...JJ showed him in practice, not only that he was healthy, but that he had learned something about what it takes during his absence from the lineup...those are Parcells words. What happened to his loyalty to Ritchie Anderson?...loyalty my butt, neither Rashard Lee nor Eddie George nor even his beloved Ritchie Anderson got any significant PT once Parcells decided Julius was ready...he played the guy who could win.

Forget all the lame excuses for Romo and especially for Henson...it is clearly Parcells opinion that neither is even close to playing as decently as Vinny (that's sad indeed)...it's clear that Henson isn't even close to ready.

IF you don't believe that...if you believe that Parcells is just ridiculously stubborn and thumbing his nose at everyone and won't play the young guys because he has to be right and wants to support the 41 year old Vinny Testeverde, then you should be calling him a dumba__ of the highest order and calling for a new coach...Parcells can't be a good coach and be sooo wrong about the most important position on the field and for our future at the same time.

I choose to believe he knows what he's doing and that these young guys are definitely NOT the answer now or in 2005. Henson is another year or even two away from being ready for the NFL, if ever. Romo understands the game better, but he is not an NFL caliber starting QB, and probably never will be.

What do you really believe about our QBs and our coach? Your answers need to allign themselves logically with each other...if not, something is very wrong with our coach or with your views.

Sitting Bull
12-27-2004, 07:37 PM
*yawn*

blindzebra
12-27-2004, 07:47 PM
What was your point again?

You don't like Parcells, but we should not question him.

Our QBs suck, but shouldn't we blame Parcells for putting us in this mess, if that is the case?

Does THAT logically go with your first point? :rolleyes:

Rule of thumb, if you can't make a point in a paragraph or two, you don't have one.

Dave_in-NC
12-27-2004, 07:47 PM
We are QB starved. And for good reason. Jones has set the Cowboys back years with his baseball/football playing QBs.

Parcells will clean up the mess like he did with the TE. Like he did with Galloway, another Jones mess. He just cant do it fast enough for some.

These guys/fans will sing a different tune when he does. :D

Chuck 54
12-27-2004, 07:56 PM
What was your point again?

You don't like Parcells, but we should not question him.

Our QBs suck, but shouldn't we blame Parcells for putting us in this mess, if that is the case?

Does THAT logically go with your first point? :rolleyes:

Rule of thumb, if you can't make a point in a paragraph or two, you don't have one.
hmmm....add at least 1 paragraph here so I'll understand what you are trying to say...besides the obvious....sounds like you actually agree with me that our QB's suck and you don't like Parcells....lol. But maybe you didn't catch that....I don't think Romo or Henson will ever play QB in the NFL. I think Parcells knows that....I believe him....I just don't like his fat chesty self.

Hope that was more terse and without support like you like em.

jay cee
12-27-2004, 08:34 PM
hmmm....add at least 1 paragraph here so I'll understand what you are trying to say...besides the obvious....sounds like you actually agree with me that our QB's suck and you don't like Parcells....lol. But maybe you didn't catch that....I don't think Romo or Henson will ever play QB in the NFL. I think Parcells knows that....I believe him....I just don't like his fat chesty self.

Hope that was more terse and without support like you like em.


I have found that when you get those kind of responses on a forum, it is usually because you have not left them with a leg to stand on. But they just can't bring themselves to admit it. :D

blindzebra
12-27-2004, 08:38 PM
hmmm....add at least 1 paragraph here so I'll understand what you are trying to say...besides the obvious....sounds like you actually agree with me that our QB's suck and you don't like Parcells....lol. But maybe you didn't catch that....I don't think Romo or Henson will ever play QB in the NFL. I think Parcells knows that....I believe him....I just don't like his fat chesty self.

Hope that was more terse and without support like you like em.

No I don't agree that Henson sucks, and I do think Parcells has screwed up by not playing Henson and Romo when he's had the chance. We should have around 8 games of info about them that we don't have, and we will pay for it next year.

Big D
12-27-2004, 08:41 PM
Romo sucks, but he is more ready than Henson. Henson sucks and isn't close to being ready to hit the NFL stage...if he was, he'd be ahead of Romo. They both leave a great deal to be desired, and neither could start for any team in the NFL...if either could, then he'd be playing ahead of Testeverde who couldn't find a starting gig anywhere but Dallas though some teams wanted him as a backup to their youngsters.



This just about sums it up.




:jints:

CaptainAmerica
12-27-2004, 08:49 PM
Man, you had to get that off your chest, didn't you? :D

VA Cowboy
12-27-2004, 08:52 PM
We are QB starved. And for good reason. Jones has set the Cowboys back years with his baseball/football playing QBs.


Exactly.

Jerry's had one or two decent drafts in the 9 years prior to BP's arrival.
Jerry didn't address the QB situation in Aikman's final years. He then inexplicably give up TWO #1 picks for Galloway because he thought he was the missing piece to get us back to the Super Bowl. :rolleyes:

Then even after Aikman retired all he's done is reach for QC and then waste 3 years evaluating what most of the league already knew. He also signed Hutch, which was another waste of time. Now all we have is a 41 year old starter who was supposed to be a veteran backup, a 1st year former baseball player and a second year undrafted FA.

The one thing we haven't done is actually try to acquire a decent QB. We haven't drafted one in the first round since Aikman in '89 and we haven't signed a potential quality starter through FA. Jerry just wants to luck out and get a QB cheap....which is reason #64 Jerry is a %#^& moron.

Jimz31
12-27-2004, 08:54 PM
No I don't agree that Henson sucks, and I do think Parcells has screwed up by not playing Henson and Romo when he's had the chance. We should have around 8 games of info about them that we don't have, and we will pay for it next year.

Yep. Exactly. :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:

gbrittain
12-27-2004, 09:01 PM
I was probably the first person on this site to crack on Vinny Testeverde back when it was just a rumor that he'd come here as a backup. I claimed we'd never bring in a QB that old and that crappy to Dallas when there were so many guys available like Collins, Warner, etc.

I was wrong about that, but I was right when I said Vinny had never been very good and couldn't be expected to be a starter over Carter now or ever. I claimed that whether he started out well or poorly, he'd fade as the season went along...I was wrong about his starting, but correct on his fade.

However, I simply don't understand the venom directed his way by fans in Texas Stadium or on this message board, the same fans who praised him up and down when he was putting up big numbers early in the season.

Vinny Testeverde is clearly the best QB we have, and by a wide margin....if you don't believe that, then you should stop calling Parcells a HOF coach, stop using the phrase "Trust in Bill," and call for his immediate dismissal as an over-the-hill idiot who can't direct this team to anything better than what we've seen this year. To keep singing Parcells' praises and trusting that he will straighten this mess out, and yet keep calling for Romo or Henson to start instead of Vinny is to ignore everything Parcells has said and hinted at between the lines all year long.

Romo sucks, but he is more ready than Henson. Henson sucks and isn't close to being ready to hit the NFL stage...if he was, he'd be ahead of Romo. They both leave a great deal to be desired, and neither could start for any team in the NFL...if either could, then he'd be playing ahead of Testeverde who couldn't find a starting gig anywhere but Dallas though some teams wanted him as a backup to their youngsters.

If you refuse to believe this simple fact about our two young QBs, then you should come out of the closet and admit that you think Parcells sucks and doesn't know what he's doing and can't judge these two young guys without putting them in a game...because that's what you are saying...you don't trust Parcells ability to know when either is even close to being ready. IN that case, it's definitely time for him to retire moreso than Vinny, so we can look for a new coach who knows what he's doing and won't hurt our future like Bill is doing.

You can't have it both ways...Parcells can't be a good football coach for the Dallas Cowboys and be soooooo ignorant and wrong about Romo and Henson. To present any argument for why he has stuck with Vinny rather than play these guys other than the fact that in practice they aren't very good at all, not even close, is just plain illogical and can't be supported. Loyalty? Veteran crazy? These are lame excuses...if they are true, then Parcells doesn't deserve the HOF or the Cowboys. He's never been loyal...he's always been about winning.

Now, don't get me wrong...I never liked hiring Parcells because I've never liked him, and I never liked bringing in Vinny because I had no faith in him. I still don't like Parcells, but Vinny has proven to be better than I ever thought he'd be despite his INT's....since Glenn went down, he's been in a similar situation to the one Carter was in....it's been a long long time since any QB, including Aikman, had a real go-to big time WR on this team and a decent sidekick.

I don't want to see Romo or Henson....not unless Parcells thinks they are more prepared than Henson was on T-DAy...say what you will about him being pulled too early, but he was awful and he was pulled not because guys couldn't get open against the BEars but because he was lost, couldn't read the blitz or find anyone to throw the ball to, much less the right someone.

If you think a coach who's HOF material needs to see a QB in a real game to see that he's ready, then you are in denial. When a coach sees a QB lighting it up in practice, looking like an All-star in shorts, and doing everything right to expose the defense during practice, yes, he has to see it in a game against the other guys to know for sure, to validate his opinion that this guy is ready. But when a coach thinks a guy stinks, can't read a defense, can't find the right guys or read the blitz or play instinctively in practice, he doesn't need to throw him in a real game against the enemy at a faster pace and against more complicated and surprising game day defenses to see that maybe the guy is better in the game....that's insane.

I don't like Parcells, but I trust him in judging when his QB is ready just as he judged that JJ wasn't ready for prime time at the start of the season, but later that he was really ready...JJ showed him in practice, not only that he was healthy, but that he had learned something about what it takes during his absence from the lineup...those are Parcells words. What happened to his loyalty to Ritchie Anderson?...loyalty my butt, neither Rashard Lee nor Eddie George nor even his beloved Ritchie Anderson got any significant PT once Parcells decided Julius was ready...he played the guy who could win.

Forget all the lame excuses for Romo and especially for Henson...it is clearly Parcells opinion that neither is even close to playing as decently as Vinny (that's sad indeed)...it's clear that Henson isn't even close to ready.

IF you don't believe that...if you believe that Parcells is just ridiculously stubborn and thumbing his nose at everyone and won't play the young guys because he has to be right and wants to support the 41 year old Vinny Testeverde, then you should be calling him a dumba__ of the highest order and calling for a new coach...Parcells can't be a good coach and be sooo wrong about the most important position on the field and for our future at the same time.

I choose to believe he knows what he's doing and that these young guys are definitely NOT the answer now or in 2005. Henson is another year or even two away from being ready for the NFL, if ever. Romo understands the game better, but he is not an NFL caliber starting QB, and probably never will be.

What do you really believe about our QBs and our coach? Your answers need to allign themselves logically with each other...if not, something is very wrong with our coach or with your views.

Man, there are some other possibilities out there did you did not even consider.

What if Eli was backing up Vinny, do you know for fact that BP would be playing Eli?

I think there is a good chance that we would still be seeing Vinny. As much as I dislike Vinny, he is probably a better option over Eli if Eli played for the Cowboys right now.

Lets face it BP has a special relationship with Vinny. If we had a seasoned veteran backing up his hand might be forced to try an alternative, but when the backups have no experience it is easy for BP to just let Vinny play.

You have no idea if Henson sucks or not. He very well may, but that is just a guess on your part.

BPs actions would be the same if Eli were here. His rating is 48.1.

jay cee
12-27-2004, 09:06 PM
Man, there are some other possibilities out there did you did not even consider.

What if Eli was backing up Vinny, do you know for fact that BP would be playing Eli?

I think there is a good chance that we would still be seeing Vinny. As much as I dislike Vinny, he is probably a better option over Eli if Eli played for the Cowboys right now.

Lets face it BP has a special relationship with Vinny. If we had a seasoned veteran backing up his hand might be forced to try an alternative, but when the backups have no experience it is easy for BP to just let Vinny play.

You have no idea if Henson sucks or not. He very well may, but that is just a guess on your part.

BPs actions would be the same if Eli were here. His rating is 48.1.

Why should qb's play when they are not ready? You don't throw rookie wideouts or corners out there to suck and say the only way they can get better is by playing.

What's so wrong with holding a guy out until he can at least put up a credible performance?

Dave_in-NC
12-27-2004, 09:08 PM
Why should qb's play when they are not ready? You don't throw rookie wideouts or corners out there to suck and say the only way they can get better is by playing.

What's so wrong with holding a guy out until he can at least put up a credible performance?

yeah like Elis credible performances. :rolleyes:

Grevus
12-27-2004, 09:15 PM
No I don't agree that Henson sucks, and I do think Parcells has screwed up by not playing Henson and Romo when he's had the chance. We should have around 8 games of info about them that we don't have, and we will pay for it next year.

I agree. I'm holding out hope that Henson is the guy, and I believe that BP believe Henson is the guy as well. I don't buy the idea the BP doesn't like Henson. BP knows Henson isn't ready, but at the same time, he needs to see what he has in Romo.

Let look at the situation. We have Vinny, Romo, Henson. We know what we have with Vinny. We know nothing about Romo or Henson. The idea is that Henson is the future. Some teams choose to throw the rookie to the wolves and hope he learns. In other cases, the rookie sits the bench and learns. In the cowboys case, Henson is going to sit the bench since BP wants to win. The only mistake that BP has made is making Henson the backup to Vinny. This I believe is the problem. If Henson started as the 3rd QB and was never promoted to 2nd QB, I wouldn't have an issue.

I would love to see Henson or Romo start. I don't want to see VT take any more snaps, but right now, VT is the best QB on this team. I agree with BP, the object of the game is to win.

If next year, Vinny is the starter, then I would light my torch and join the mob.

Eskimo
12-27-2004, 09:22 PM
In principle I agree with your point.

I am internally consistent.

Henson needs to start or someone else needs to be brought in (i.e. not Vinny).

Parcells needs to leave Dallas and drag his crony geriatrics with him.

The Curly One
12-27-2004, 09:29 PM
"No I don't agree that Henson sucks, and I do think Parcells has screwed up by not playing Henson and Romo when he's had the chance. We should have around 8 games of info about them that we don't have, and we will pay for it next year."
Look we wasted half the season when we could have got Henson some game experience. Now who are we going to rely on next year? Henson with no experience or another year older Vinny? Or maybe we could pick up a Qb and runningback in free agency that nobody wants again. Oops! I forgot we have Vinny and Eddie George to fill those spots. Curly

jay cee
12-27-2004, 09:59 PM
yeah like Elis credible performances. :rolleyes:
See, you just got it twisted. Manning is one of the players that I was talking about. IMO he has done nothing to earn a starting spot. He may be good in a couple of years, but right now he sucks.

I just think that all players should be able to perform at a high level before they hit the field.

Not all players except the qb.

blindzebra
12-27-2004, 10:12 PM
See, you just got it twisted. Manning is one of the players that I was talking about. IMO he has done nothing to earn a starting spot. He may be good in a couple of years, but right now he sucks.

I just think that all players should be able to perform at a high level before they hit the field.

Not all players except the qb.

That's not possible with a 53 man roster and a cap, most every team has to play young guys without experience at a few spots every season.

NE won a Super Bowl with a makeshift OL filled with young players and several rookies playing on defense.

gbrittain
12-27-2004, 10:19 PM
Why should qb's play when they are not ready? You don't throw rookie wideouts or corners out there to suck and say the only way they can get better is by playing.

What's so wrong with holding a guy out until he can at least put up a credible performance?


I would not want Henson to start if we actually a good team playing for something.

The facts are we are a very sorry team and we are starting a 42 year old QB. Its not that I want Henson to start just because his name is Henson.

Vinny is 42 and we are a bad team. That is why Henson should be starting.

To me it is a no brainer. What do we gain by playing Vinny?

What do we gain by playing Henson? Maybe nothing, but maybe we gain a lot. At least there is an upside.

For the life of me I am trying to figure out the upside of playing Vinny.

2233boys
12-27-2004, 11:13 PM
There is so much venom because this the Dallas freaking Cowboys and we should have a QB. We don't, and we haven't since Aikman retired. Jerry messed up, but Parcells, isn't doing any better. Parcells personal choices since joining the team have been suspect at best. We all know what kind of a dummy Jones was and has been, and we have lived with it for a long time, we thought things would be different when Billy Boy took over, well honestly I think we just have a new dummy making bad choices. :banghead:

SuspectCorner
12-28-2004, 02:42 AM
You can't have it both ways...Parcells can't be a good football coach for the Dallas Cowboys and be soooooo ignorant and wrong about Romo and Henson. To present any argument for why he has stuck with Vinny rather than play these guys other than the fact that in practice they aren't very good at all, not even close, is just plain illogical and can't be supported. Loyalty? Veteran crazy? These are lame excuses...if they are true, then Parcells doesn't deserve the HOF or the Cowboys. He's never been loyal...he's always been about winning.

thank you wayne motley. bill parcells is like paul maisson - he will serve no QB before his time. if you like to see the blatantly green QB tossed out on the field - then you surely miss the JJ sycophant and puppet dave campo. now we have a coach with a spine. one who could care less about serving the majority public sentiment. no more raw quincys or hutches. we are back to the system whereby a QB must EARN his place on the field. if parcells would start an aging vinny over the younger and more lithe likes of romo and henson - then the kids must surely have some growing up to do. so let them. no better yet - MAKE THEM. i don't, for one millisecond, believe that it HURTS either of these young men to have to EARN their place in the starting lineup. quite the opposite. i believe it HELPS THEM. if they make it - it will be solely because of their DUE DILIGENCE. i'd rather see that than another QC or hutch fail after being thrust upon the field before they were ready. parcells sees these guys everyday. it would be sheer folly to believe i have a better grasp of their battle-readiness than does coach bill. now, who among you believes HE/SHE is more qualified than the coach?

Sarge
12-28-2004, 05:59 AM
What was your point again?

You don't like Parcells, but we should not question him.

Our QBs suck, but shouldn't we blame Parcells for putting us in this mess, if that is the case?

Does THAT logically go with your first point? :rolleyes:

Rule of thumb, if you can't make a point in a paragraph or two, you don't have one.

OUCH!

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Dave_in-NC
12-28-2004, 07:36 AM
thank you wayne motley. bill parcells is like paul maisson - he will serve no QB before his time. if you like to see the blatantly green QB tossed out on the field - then you surely miss the JJ sycophant and puppet dave campo. now we have a coach with a spine. one who could care less about serving the majority public sentiment. no more raw quincys or hutches. we are back to the system whereby a QB must EARN his place on the field. if parcells would start an aging vinny over the younger and more lithe likes of romo and henson - then the kids must surely have some growing up to do. so let them. no better yet - MAKE THEM. i don't, for one millisecond, believe that it HURTS either of these young men to have to EARN their place in the starting lineup. quite the opposite. i believe it HELPS THEM. if they make it - it will be solely because of their DUE DILIGENCE. i'd rather see that than another QC or hutch fail after being thrust upon the field before they were ready. parcells sees these guys everyday. it would be sheer folly to believe i have a better grasp of their battle-readiness than does coach bill. now, who among you believes HE/SHE is more qualified than the coach?

My sentiments exactly. We needed to put an end to our QB carousel. Its time some one earns the QB position rather than Jones forcing the QB in.
If it isnt Henson or Romo at least Parcells will put an end to the madness of baseball players becoming QBs in Dallas.

The Curly One
12-28-2004, 08:39 AM
I knew it was a mistake when they brought Vinny and Eddie George here and it should be big red flags when nobody would give a 4th round draft pick for Allen. There is a reason for that, they are old, worn out useless players. Parcells is starting them and they should be back ups at best. Those guys are too old to play at the top level and Parcells starting them sure makes me wonder if HE is too old to coach at the top level!
Get the young guys in there to get some experience so we can have a good team next year.
Parcells may just start all three next year to and if he does I would not expect to win many games. Curly

jay cee
12-28-2004, 11:37 AM
That's not possible with a 53 man roster and a cap, most every team has to play young guys without experience at a few spots every season.

NE won a Super Bowl with a makeshift OL filled with young players and several rookies playing on defense.


I didn't follow NE closely, I know they had players filling in because of injuries and such. But it seemed to me that all of those players did a pretty good job.

I was talking about how so many people say that you have to put a qb out there whether he can play well or not. You don't see them saying that about other positions. Roy Williams and Newman started as rookies, and they were some of the better players on the team during their rookie seasons.

I don't see the point in sticking a manning or henson on the field until he can do an adequate job. It's one thing when you have an expansion team like the Texans with Carr, or the whole team sucks like the Cowboys with Aikman in '89.

But when you have a competitive team, I think it is a bad move.

Charles
12-28-2004, 11:52 AM
thank you wayne motley. bill parcells is like paul maisson - he will serve no QB before his time. if you like to see the blatantly green QB tossed out on the field - then you surely miss the JJ sycophant and puppet dave campo. now we have a coach with a spine. one who could care less about serving the majority public sentiment. no more raw quincys or hutches. we are back to the system whereby a QB must EARN his place on the field. if parcells would start an aging vinny over the younger and more lithe likes of romo and henson - then the kids must surely have some growing up to do. so let them. no better yet - MAKE THEM. i don't, for one millisecond, believe that it HURTS either of these young men to have to EARN their place in the starting lineup. quite the opposite. i believe it HELPS THEM. if they make it - it will be solely because of their DUE DILIGENCE. i'd rather see that than another QC or hutch fail after being thrust upon the field before they were ready. parcells sees these guys everyday. it would be sheer folly to believe i have a better grasp of their battle-readiness than does coach bill. now, who among you believes HE/SHE is more qualified than the coach?
Great post

The whole Qb situation is a perfect example of many mediots and fans putting their personal preference before the good of the TEAM.

Lately we've had......

1. Carter Apologist.
2. Haters
3. Elitists

I'll coin this new breed of mediots and fans as a bunch of Leons.

twa
12-28-2004, 12:18 PM
thank you wayne motley. bill parcells is like paul maisson - he will serve no QB before his time. if you like to see the blatantly green QB tossed out on the field - then you surely miss the JJ sycophant and puppet dave campo. now we have a coach with a spine. one who could care less about serving the majority public sentiment. no more raw quincys or hutches. we are back to the system whereby a QB must EARN his place on the field. if parcells would start an aging vinny over the younger and more lithe likes of romo and henson - then the kids must surely have some growing up to do. so let them. no better yet - MAKE THEM. i don't, for one millisecond, believe that it HURTS either of these young men to have to EARN their place in the starting lineup. quite the opposite. i believe it HELPS THEM. if they make it - it will be solely because of their DUE DILIGENCE. i'd rather see that than another QC or hutch fail after being thrust upon the field before they were ready. parcells sees these guys everyday. it would be sheer folly to believe i have a better grasp of their battle-readiness than does coach bill. now, who among you believes HE/SHE is more qualified than the coach?
Thank you .... :banghead:

Chuck 54
12-28-2004, 12:45 PM
No I don't agree that Henson sucks, and I do think Parcells has screwed up by not playing Henson and Romo when he's had the chance. We should have around 8 games of info about them that we don't have, and we will pay for it next year.
That's all I'm looking for....so you are confident in Henson and Romo but have lost confidence in the all mighty Parcells who screwed up.

You are not directly addressed in this thread because you have taken a logical stand...those who worship the ground Parcells walks on and yet believe that he's totally wrong about our young QB's are the illogical ones...they are the ones asked to take a stand.