S. Jackson is a Horse

[boysfanindc]

Jackson in fast, huge and is going to be a hell of a back.

[VA Cowboy]

Jackson in fast, huge and is going to be a hell of a back.

Yep...so far he's 9 att for 100 yards.

I'm pleasantly surprised with Julius, but I think K. Jones and Jackson are going to be real good.

[Nors]

Reminds me of Herschel, big guy, speed but lack of elusive.

Kevin Jones is the back that will be the prototype.



Milk Jones has a chance here - Still like him a lot. Durability my concern most - not talent.

[Rush 2112]

Let's not lose sight of the fact that Philly is approaching this like the last pre season game before the regular season.

[Ken]

Let's not lose sight of the fact that Philly is approaching this like the last pre season game before the regular season.
Seriously.

In addition, he is mostly running through giant holes.

[Eskimo]

He'll be okay but he is not special.

Kevin and Julius Jones are both far more talented runners than he is - I don't even think it is that close.

[SALADIN]

Reminds me of Herschel, big guy, speed but lack of elusive.

Kevin Jones is the back that will be the prototype.



Milk Jones has a chance here - Still like him a lot. Durability my concern most - not talent.

Who is "Milk" Jones and why?

[Eskimo]

Who is "Milk" Jones and why?

It is a lame attempt to ridicule Julius for having brittle bones - needs to drink milk to strengthen his bones.

[dbair1967]

Jackson in fast, huge and is going to be a hell of a back.

yeah he looks great running against backups of a team that obviously isnt all that interested in doing anything than making it back to the airport healthy

:rolleyes:

David

[DoomsDayD]

As rush put it,philly is treating this game like a pre-season game so you can take nothing from this game what-so-ever. One good game does not make a superior running back.

[Nors]

It is a lame attempt to ridicule Julius for having brittle bones - needs to drink milk to strengthen his bones.


A back can't crack ribs, miss time, break Shoulder, miss time in the NFL and be an impact back. I love Jones to death - poked fun at his osteopero issues and rendered a solution.

I have not even started the butter fingers slant. We need Milk, 16 games next season. Drink Milk and don't mess with the butter.

[dbair1967]

[QUOTE=Nors]Reminds me of Herschel, big guy, speed but lack of elusive.
QUOTE]

please, Herschel was a once a decade type talent...the only reason he isnt more highly thought of is because he ran the ball 30-35 times a week for a few yrs in the USFL...had he went straight to the NFL from UGA, he might have owned alot of NFL records...

Steven Jackson is just another good back...

David

[Eskimo]

A back can't crack ribs, miss time, break Shoulder, miss time in the NFL and be an impact back. I love Jones to death - poked fun at his osteopero issues and rendered a solution.

I have not even started the butter fingers slant. We need Milk, 16 games next season. Drink Milk and don't mess with the butter.

Drinking milk is unlikely to prevent injury.

They were both freak injuries - helmet right on the shoulder blade underneath the pads and fell on the point of the ball.

I'll worry about Jones when he leaves games with more minor injuries.

In terms of the pounding he takes, getting a better ORG, RT, FB, OL coach and an effective backup RB should be priorities in the offseason.

[Wolverine]

Jackson does look good. But Im glad we got Julius. I hope his injury thing is just some real bad luck and he will be over it. If he can be healthy for 16 games this guy is good for 1200 yards even with our barely average OL. Improve the line and Jones has a chance at 1500 yards. I really hope his injures are behind him cuz you gotta love his moves great speed and how fast he can hit the hole.

[dbair1967]

A back can't crack ribs, miss time, break Shoulder, miss time in the NFL and be an impact back. .

yeah breaking a shoulder blade isnt a legit injury and is a sign of an injury problem, but guys having bum knees and shakey ankles and missing time are horses...

:rolleyes:

David

[SacredStar]

All three of these guys are going to be very good, we'll just have to wait and see which one turns out to be the best, but right now, they all look good.

[SALADIN]

It is a lame attempt to ridicule Julius for having brittle bones - needs to drink milk to strengthen his bones.

Things (trends) that won't stick in 2005:

~WMD's being the reason we went to war

~Vinny as a starting QB in this league

~The role of NATO and the United Nations

~Nor's trying to get all us us to call him "Milk" (you got lucky with the 3-4, sell high)

~The decline of the web browser (usage on the desktop as a way to get to web content) - Google has the greatest market share

~T.O. as being the best WR in the NFL

~Those European style shoes ( I hate those)

~Shut Down CB's (The new rules may send Rolle down to the late 1st)

~Mediterranean cruises (a weak dollar may keep Americans away from Europe)

~QB's with "Pedigree's"

~GAP commercials

[SALADIN]

[QUOTE=Nors]Reminds me of Herschel, big guy, speed but lack of elusive.
QUOTE]

please, Herschel was a once a decade type talent...the only reason he isnt more highly thought of is because he ran the ball 30-35 times a week for a few yrs in the USFL...had he went straight to the NFL from UGA, he might have owned alot of NFL records...

Steven Jackson is just another good back...

David

True, almost as freakish and Bo

[cowheel]

yeah breaking a shoulder blade isnt a legit injury and is a sign of an injury problem, but guys having bum knees and shakey ankles and missing time are horses...

:rolleyes:

David
:) They've all missed some games and have been dinged up multiple times...
Save a glass of thet milk for SJ and KJ...

[Sarge]

Is there some rule I don't know about that says Kevin Jones, Julius Jones and S. Jackson can't all be good running backs?

[Danny White]

Jackson looked like a stud out there.

I did notice he limped off the field several times though. That wouldn't have happened here under Parcells. He'd have stayed on the field till that leg fell off! "Don't you EVER take yourself out of the game, boy!" :p

[dbair1967]

Is there some rule I don't know about that says Kevin Jones, Julius Jones and S. Jackson can't all be good running backs?

of course there is Sarge, its called ficklefannessenvious...what it means is that surely no player we draft can be good and that we should have drafted a player at the same position that some other team has...I'm not sure what the cure is for ficklefannessenvious however, and the disease is quite serious

David

[Tio]

Wow, besides the fact that JJ is in the worse situation of all three of them, but what makes you think they can't all be very good/elite backs?

[dbair1967]

Wow, besides the fact that JJ is in the worse situation of all three of them, but what makes you think they can't all be very good/elite backs?

see above post....ficklefannessenvious.....fear it

David

[InmanRoshi]

People spend WAY too much time worrying who got the better of trades. Its almost as though people spend more time keeping score about who got the better of trades and draft picks than W's and L's.

I think Jackson looks excellent, and I still love trade and would do it again in a heartbeat.

[Chuck 54]

Is there some rule I don't know about that says Kevin Jones, Julius Jones and S. Jackson can't all be good running backs?
Amen Sarge...I've been very impressed with KJ's 4.8 yard average all season, and I was definitely impressed with SJ's moves and speed and power (whoever said he has no elusiveness wasn't watching last night...he doesn't just run straight ahead)....the Philly defense was in there in the first quarter and he was abusing them, carrying guys down the field...he's a horse for sure.

My long range prediction is that the scouts had it right all along:

Jackson will have the best career and be the most impressive back.
KJ will have a decent career.
JJ will do well and probably have a better career than Tatum Bell.

That's my guess, and I can live with it if we get two solid players in round 1 this year.

All 3 backs went in the proper order...and as has been the trend lately, they went lower than many thought they would...that's the life of a RB.

I think all 3 are going to be better than some backs rated higher in previous years.

[boysfanindc]

I am not sure why commenting on how well another RB like Jackson looks, means we did the wrong thing.

I believe Jackson is going to be a excellent RB in this league for many years. He has a lot of tools, speed and he will flat run over people when he needs too.

But at this point I am not sure how anyone could argue, that the trade is not turning out to be a good thing. JJ looks very good, all be it a different style plus we picked up a pick.

All in all as of now seems like a good move, but I am sure this one will be reevaluated every year, especially once we see what we get for trading down.

[tyke1doe]

Sorry, guys, but he didn't seem that fast to me.

He look big and more of a glider than a shifty runner. He's sort of a poor, poor man's Eric Dickerson.

[Waffle]

People spend WAY too much time worrying who got the better of trades. Its almost as though people spend more time keeping score about who got the better of trades and draft picks than W's and L's.

I think Jackson looks excellent, and I still love trade and would do it again in a heartbeat.
It's already a proven fact that many people here don't care about W's and L's.

[RCowboyFan]

yeah he looks great running against backups of a team that obviously isnt all that interested in doing anything than making it back to the airport healthy

:rolleyes:

David

And maybe also having Torry Holt, Issac Bruce at WRs also helps? Or that Marshal Faulk would be the primary guy to stop or at least they have to game plan for two backs rather than one back also help?

Its one thing if someone said Kevin Jones is a stud. I think there is a point to it, since even with inept QB at this point, Kevin is putting up some numbers. I am still not that impressed by Steven Jackson, and this coming from a guy who thought he would be a stud during draft time.

Even then, the fact that we have additional 1st round draft pick itself, makes it a moot point even if Julius is just equal to other two. Personally I think barring injuries, Kevin and Julius might end up being stars in NFL. I still don't like Speed or lack of it by Steven Jackson. But he does seem to be a damn good RB though, just not the superstar I thought he might be.

[boysfanindc]

Looked pretty slow on that 43 yard run last night and has 4 over 20+ yard runs this year including another 48 yarder. Seems like he has plenty of speed to me. This is more over 20+ yard runs then JJ has.

Half his runs were outside that I say last night.

But don't get me wrong I am not trying to compare him to JJ or anyone else.

But it seems to me he has a lot of tools. Speed, Size and a abilty to make the pile go backwards.

He is going to be 1,200 to 1,300 yard back for many seasons to come.

[RCowboyFan]

Looked pretty slow on that 43 yard run last night and has 4 over 20+ yard runs this year including another 48 yarder. Seems like he has plenty of speed to me. This is more over 20+ yard runs then JJ has.

Half his runs were outside that I say last night.

But don't get me wrong I am not trying to compare him to JJ or anyone else.

But it seems to me he has a lot of tools. Speed, Size and a abilty to make the pile go backwards.

He is going to be 1,200 to 1,300 yard back for many seasons to come.


Ok, on that 43 yard run, maybe if you look at it again, do you think anyone would have caught JJ after the lOS? I mean, come on, when did JJ see that big holes like Steven did last night, other against probably Seattle?

Steven ran through a hole, literally big enough to fit a small car. And then he didn't have to dodge too many people past LOS either.

Now don't take it as I am bashing Steven Jackson, but it is not as impressive as the runs JJ had against Bears on that 37 yards dash or the final TD run against Seattle. You could almost hold your breadth at the speed and vision that JJ had on those runs.

Now if JJ didn't run those and Steven was doing what he did last night, I would be more impressed with Steven. But still, having watched Kevin Jones lately, I am still more impressed with him than Steven Jackson. Because Kevin seems to make people miss consistantly and seems to be more quick than Steven, but not as quick as Julius though. But Kevin might be better at catching balls right now than Julius.

[boysfanindc]

I like all 3 of them, I guess that is my point.

Jackson may not be as fast as those guys but he has way above the required speed to make big plays, hence his 4 20+ runs and 5.2 average.

This guy is 231 pounds easily 20 pounds more then those guys and still has some speed.

JJ has made a lot of his yards on delay's and draws and there have been some huge holes on these plays.

Gain a little speed with JJ and gain a little power running with Jackson, he sends guys backwards.

All in all I think it will be the best RB class in quite awhile.

[dbair1967]

I still dont understand all the gushing about a RB having success against another teams backups and scrubs, especially when he's playing with his first team

but as others said, Julius is a good back, what is wrong with the guy we got? He's been just as impressive, if not more impressive than the other rookie RB's, and he basically missed 9 games...the Saints, Eagles and Skins all loaded up bigtime to stop this kid...I didnt see Jackson run one play vs an 8 or 9 man front last night, Jones ran virtually all of his the past few games vs loaded up fronts and run blitzes that were designed to take him away, because nobody is afriad of VT anymore

David

[Chocolate Lab]

Sorry, guys, but he didn't seem that fast to me.

He look big and more of a glider than a shifty runner. He's sort of a poor, poor man's Eric Dickerson.
You left out a few "poor"s there... :)

As the others have said, who cares if a player we passed on is 5 or 10% better... We got a darn good one plus a pick in the top 25 overall. Sounds good to me.

[boysfanindc]

I still dont understand all the gushing about a RB having success against another teams backups and scrubs, especially when he's playing with his first team

but as others said, Julius is a good back, what is wrong with the guy we got? He's been just as impressive, if not more impressive than the other rookie RB's, and he basically missed 9 games...the Saints, Eagles and Skins all loaded up bigtime to stop this kid...I didnt see Jackson run one play vs an 8 or 9 man front last night, Jones ran virtually all of his the past few games vs loaded up fronts and run blitzes that were designed to take him away, because nobody is afriad of VT anymore

David

Some how I don't peg you as a gusher about anything.

[dbair1967]

Some how I don't peg you as a gusher about anything.

need to pay closer attention

:D

David