Jason Ferguson says he's not close to re-signing with the Jets

[Yakuza Rich]

It's from the NY Post, so look at the source:

Despite a recent report that said Jason Ferguson was on the verge of inking a contract extension, the nose tackle yesterday denied that any deal is imminent and said that nothing is even close to being done. "No," Ferguson said. "There's honestly nothing going on. Honestly."


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[boysfanindc]

Hope it is true, would love to see him wear a star.

[Midswat]

How good is he?

Anyone have a scouting report?

[Westcoasthabsfan]

How good is he?

Anyone have a scouting report?


Here you go:
http://www.tsn.ca/nfl/teams/player_bio.asp?player_id=2459&hubName=NYJ


Scouting Report
Preseason projected role Ferguson returns as the starting nose tackle for the Jets.
Assets An old-fashioned run stuffer. Commands a double team and plugs up the middle. Plays hard and doesn't quit.
Flaws Not a pass rusher. Doesn't have that lightning first step. Holds the point of attack but doesn't really collapse the pocket.
Career potential Adequate starter.

Here is another Scouting report from ESPN

2004 Scouting Report - Football Scouts Inc.
Name: Jason Ferguson
Position: Defensive Tackle
Grade: 71 | Key
Alert: None

Comment:
Ferguson has good size and is almost impossible to move once in position. Forces teams to double team him drawing attention away from the rest of the defensive line and can be a two-gap player that helps keep blockers off the linebackers. As a pass rusher, has excellent lower body strength, drives through offensive linemen and is capable of collapsing the pocket. Ferguson's second effort allows him to get to the quarterback at times but he is still far more effective defending the run than he is rushing the passer. Lacks the explosive first step to beat offensive linemen off the snap and doesn't show great closing speed to the quarterback. Footwork is inconsistent at best, doesn't play with great balance and spends too much time on the ground. Has had problems controlling weight in the past and appears to wear down over the course of the game. Ferguson is fairly one-dimensional and he doesn't have great instincts for a seven-year veteran with his experience but he is still an excellent starter.

Doesn't sound all that great to me.......

[junk]

Here you go:
http://www.tsn.ca/nfl/teams/player_bio.asp?player_id=2459&hubName=NYJ


Scouting Report
Preseason projected role Ferguson returns as the starting nose tackle for the Jets.
Assets An old-fashioned run stuffer. Commands a double team and plugs up the middle. Plays hard and doesn't quit.
Flaws Not a pass rusher. Doesn't have that lightning first step. Holds the point of attack but doesn't really collapse the pocket.
Career potential Adequate starter.

I think Ferguson along with a good DT draft pick would be a wise decision.

[Westcoasthabsfan]

Here you go:
http://www.tsn.ca/nfl/teams/player_bio.asp?player_id=2459&hubName=NYJ


Scouting Report
Preseason projected role Ferguson returns as the starting nose tackle for the Jets.
Assets An old-fashioned run stuffer. Commands a double team and plugs up the middle. Plays hard and doesn't quit.
Flaws Not a pass rusher. Doesn't have that lightning first step. Holds the point of attack but doesn't really collapse the pocket.
Career potential Adequate starter.

Here is another Scouting report from ESPN

2004 Scouting Report - Football Scouts Inc.
Name: Jason Ferguson
Position: Defensive Tackle
Grade: 71 | Key
Alert: None

Comment:
Ferguson has good size and is almost impossible to move once in position. Forces teams to double team him drawing attention away from the rest of the defensive line and can be a two-gap player that helps keep blockers off the linebackers. As a pass rusher, has excellent lower body strength, drives through offensive linemen and is capable of collapsing the pocket. Ferguson's second effort allows him to get to the quarterback at times but he is still far more effective defending the run than he is rushing the passer. Lacks the explosive first step to beat offensive linemen off the snap and doesn't show great closing speed to the quarterback. Footwork is inconsistent at best, doesn't play with great balance and spends too much time on the ground. Has had problems controlling weight in the past and appears to wear down over the course of the game. Ferguson is fairly one-dimensional and he doesn't have great instincts for a seven-year veteran with his experience but he is still an excellent starter.

Doesn't sound all that great to me.......

I would much rather have this guy:

2004 Scouting Report - Football Scouts Inc.
Name: Shaun Rogers
Position: Defensive Tackle
Grade: 83 | Key
Alert: None

Comment:
Rogers has had some problems keeping his weight down in the past but he shows excellent quickness for his size when he isn't too heavy. Possesses excellent bulk, plays with a mean streak and flashes the ability to dominate the point of attack. Clogs up the middle of the field and keeps blockers off the linebackers. Shows a quick first step, he shows the ability to penetrate and flashes the ability to make plays in the backfield. As a pass rusher, does a nice job of driving legs and is a powerful bull rusher that can consistently collapse the pocket. Rogers takes good angles to the ball, he plays with a good motor and he will make some plays with second effort but he lacks the range to make plays from side-line to sideline. Lacks ideal closing speed and is often a step slow getting to the quarterback. Appears to wear down over the course of the game and plays too high when tired. Overall, Rogers lacks ideal speed but he appeared to be in much better playing shape last year.


I think he is a FA as well and he is five years younger as well and he is a native Texan to boot.

[junk]

I would much rather have this guy:

2004 Scouting Report - Football Scouts Inc.
Name: Shaun Rogers
Position: Defensive Tackle
Grade: 83 | Key
Alert: None

Comment:
Rogers has had some problems keeping his weight down in the past but he shows excellent quickness for his size when he isn't too heavy. Possesses excellent bulk, plays with a mean streak and flashes the ability to dominate the point of attack. Clogs up the middle of the field and keeps blockers off the linebackers. Shows a quick first step, he shows the ability to penetrate and flashes the ability to make plays in the backfield. As a pass rusher, does a nice job of driving legs and is a powerful bull rusher that can consistently collapse the pocket. Rogers takes good angles to the ball, he plays with a good motor and he will make some plays with second effort but he lacks the range to make plays from side-line to sideline. Lacks ideal closing speed and is often a step slow getting to the quarterback. Appears to wear down over the course of the game and plays too high when tired. Overall, Rogers lacks ideal speed but he appeared to be in much better playing shape last year.


I think he is a FA as well and he is five years younger as well and he is a native Texan to boot.

Well, yeah, but so would Detroit. I suspect he will be franchised.

[WoodysGirl]

Well, yeah, but so would Detroit. I suspect he will be franchised.
You're right. He's not going anywhere. But you can't stop people from dreaming. I think I read that Joey H. is gonna restructure his contract to give them some cap relief, which they'll probably use to re-sign him.

[Yakuza Rich]

Ferguson has a career average of 3.28 sacks per 16 games.

Compare that to the 4 players that have played the NT position for Dallas.

CARSON

2.16 sacks per 16 games (career wise)

1.19 sacks per 16 games (with Dallas)


BLADE

0.8 sacks per 16 games (career)


NOBLE

1.72 sacks per 16 games (career)

1.88 sacks per 16 games (with Dallas)


MYERS

1.87 sacks per 16 games (career)

1.79 sacks per 16 games (with Dallas)


While he’s not a pass rusher, he is much better than what we’ve had and is considered to be a very good run stopper. Either way, he’s an improvement over what we’ve had. The question is what type of $$$ is he asking for and how much gas does he have left in the tank (he turns 31 next season).


Rich……………..

[JackMagist]

Sounds like Ferguson would be exactly what we need in the middle; a big guy who can stuff the run and comand a doubleteam. We don't really need him to be a pass rusher as long as they have to double him; that puts a single blocker on Glover and HE will be our pass rusher. It's not all about being the guy who actually gets to the QB. If he can be the guy that allows someone else a better chance of getting to the QB he is what we need.

[TX_Yid]

Pardon my ridiculous question, but what exactly does the term franchised mean?

Is the player obligated to sign a long term contract at a certain point with the team? Or is it simply an offer that is way too good to pass up that each team can realistically only offer to one or two players at a time?

[Midswat]

Sounds like the kind of player we need . . . a big fatty who clogs the middle.

Him and Marcus Spears would add a serious size change to our Dline . . .

[TheHustler]

We don't need him to get to the QB, we need him to command the double team and allow glover, ellis and the LBs to make plays.

[Rush 2112]

Pardon my ridiculous question, but what exactly does the term franchised mean?

Is the player obligated to sign a long term contract at a certain point with the team? Or is it simply an offer that is way too good to pass up that each team can realistically only offer to one or two players at a time?

If a team puts a franchise tag on one of their unrestricted free agents they are then must pay them the average of the top 5 highest paid players at that position for one year. If the players signs with another team the team he leaves receives two first round picks in consecutive years. Team can also use a transition tag which is the average of the top 10. Teams can use one franchise and one transition tag. After assigning the tag you have 15 days to negotiate a long-term contract, if not they're getting paid the tag. If you're Walter Jones you get tagged every year and you hold out and never have to go to camp. Teams can choose to trade tagged players for less than the 2 firsts. Comp for transition tag players is a first and a 3rd.

I think that's accurate. Feel free to blast if wrong.

[Hollywood Henderson]

Only when you have all 4 guys being able to get to the QB can you have a good consistant pass rush...

We don't need another bigger Noble/Hennings that never gets to the QB...It makes it too easy to block...

Rogers could be idea if he lost about 20 LBS...

We do need a vet DT and depth though...So I am sure one will be brought in via FA while zimmy gets the BOOT!

[TX_Yid]

If a team puts a franchise tag on one of their unrestricted free agents they are then must pay them the average of the top 5 highest paid players at that position for one year. If the players signs with another team the team he leaves receives two first round picks in consecutive years. Team can also use a transition tag which is the average of the top 10. Teams can use one franchise and one transition tag. After assigning the tag you have 15 days to negotiate a long-term contract, if not they're getting paid the tag. If you're Walter Jones you get tagged every year and you hold out and never have to go to camp. Teams can choose to trade tagged players for less than the 2 firsts. Comp for transition tag players is a first and a 3rd.

I think that's accurate. Feel free to blast if wrong.
blimey.. thanks for explaining that

[boysfanindc]

Only when you have all 4 guys being able to get to the QB can you have a good consistant pass rush...

We don't need another bigger Noble/Hennings that never gets to the QB...It makes it too easy to block...

Rogers could be idea if he lost about 20 LBS...

We do need a vet DT and depth though...So I am sure one will be brought in via FA while zimmy gets the BOOT!

How many teams play 4 guys who can consitently get to the QB?

Ferguson is a guy that can stuff the run, meaning you do not need to have safties supporting the run, he also keeps guys off of the LB's and allows them to make plays. This is what Blade did for us last year when the D was successful and Ferguson is better the Blade.

It also means less dowble teams on Glover and the DE, which allows them to get to the QB.

He would be a ideal addition of the people you are going to be able to get, because guys like Rogers are going no where and a it takes time to develop rookie DT's.

Another guy worth a look is Pat Williams from the Bills, he is a little older though.

I would be very happy with Ferguson.

[JBell523]

Ferguson would be a great addition.. We already have a pass-rushing DT, so it doesn't matter that he's not that good of a pass rusher, although he's done a pretty good job of that this season..

We'd have 3 of the 4 spots on the D-line set. Then all we'd need is a pass rushing DE.. a TRUE pass rusher..