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STSINAZ
01-01-2005, 03:09 AM
All we have to do is move Glover over to RE, get a huge NT....get a stand DE for OLB, start Thornton at the other outside linebacker position, keep DAT, go and get another MLB and you are in business....so we only need three more starters in the front 7 unless Bradie turns the corner and can play MLB....we obviously also need a FS and a CB....
Hostile
01-01-2005, 03:52 AM
All we have to do is move Glover over to RE, get a huge NT....get a stand DE for OLB, start Thornton at the other outside linebacker position, keep DAT, go and get another MLB and you are in business....so we only need three more starters in the front 7 unless Bradie turns the corner and can play MLB....we obviously also need a FS and a CB....Warren Sapp made this move and went from Pro Bowl caliber DT to warm body. Expect the same results if this happens. What a waste of a great DT.
MichaelWinicki
01-01-2005, 07:19 AM
Warren Sapp made this move and went from Pro Bowl caliber DT to warm body. Expect the same results if this happens. What a waste of a great DT.
Again Hos we have someone that thinks these guys can just be moved around willy-nilly with no drop-off in performance.
It doesn't work like that.
Take for example when Juke works the fryer all the time at McDonalds... and then one day his manager says, "Juke, I need you to work the drive-through window". Don't you think there would be a drop-off in performance? Certainly there would be a drop-off. All of a sudden what Juke was doing by instinct now requires thought. His performance will drop-off. It has too, that's the way humans work... or don't work (Well Juke I had to get the first shot of 2005 in :) ).
Moving Glover to end and then taking a guy that's use to working out of a three-point stance to now stand-up will result in the same thing. A drop-off in performance. Even moving Dat from MLB to ILB will have repercussions on his thinking process. To assume otherwise would be crazy and it would indicate someone really doesn't know how humans go about accomplishing tasks.
Warren Sapp made this move and went from Pro Bowl caliber DT to warm body. Expect the same results if this happens. What a waste of a great DT.
This is a great point.
While I am certainly intrigued about the idea of switching to a 3-4, this is what bugs me about it. Sapp is a waste, but then again, he was pretty much a waste the last couple of years in Tampa. So was it the move to end that did it or was it just his declining skills? Also, Glover is much quicker and in much better shape, end may be a natural move for him like it was for John Randle, a similar type of player to Glover. WOrst comes to worst, we have a great Nickle pass rusher.
I believe the personel swtich to go from the 4-3 to the 3-4 is a relatively easy one. We could bring in a couple of FA LBs, one big name and one lesser name. Then draft this Kid Ahmad Brooks to play middle with Dat. I'm not buying all of this Kalen Throrton starting in a 3-4 stuff. He hasn't showed me much this year and I am certainly not ready to be handing him a starting job. Brady James may flourish in a 3-4 scheme.
We would also have to bring in a Vet DT to man the nose. Ferguson is a guy I really like but I am not sure he is a 3-4 nose. Pat Williams would be a great addition. I'm sure there are other productive big men in FA but we could also draft another big body in the 2nd round.
Whatever happens this offseason with our defense, whether we stick to the 4-3 or go to the 3-4, i think it goes without saying that we have to bring in Dlineman and LBs and a Safety and a Corner. Basically, an entire overhual of our D.
joseephuss
01-01-2005, 08:48 AM
Again Hos we have someone that thinks these guys can just be moved around willy-nilly with no drop-off in performance.
It doesn't work like that.
Take for example when Juke works the fryer all the time at McDonalds... and then one day his manager says, "Juke, I need you to work the drive-through window". Don't you think there would be a drop-off in performance? Certainly there would be a drop-off. All of a sudden what Juke was doing by instinct now requires thought. His performance will drop-off. It has too, that's the way humans work... or don't work (Well Juke I had to get the first shot of 2005 in :) ).
Moving Glover to end and then taking a guy that's use to working out of a three-point stance to now stand-up will result in the same thing. A drop-off in performance. Even moving Dat from MLB to ILB will have repercussions on his thinking process. To assume otherwise would be crazy and it would indicate someone really doesn't know how humans go about accomplishing tasks.
No wonder my daily trip to Micky Ds is taking so long now. :D
I don't get the fascination with wanting to go to the 3-4. The problem with the defense isn't because they run the 4-3. It is the fact that they don't have enough talent. Dallas didn't fix the obvious flaws with the defense from last season and as a result they are worse.
I think the 3-4 is a very good system with the right talent. It just will be harder to convert to it than it will be to fix the current 4-3 scheme. Either sytem still will require bringing in a pass rusher for the right side, a huge run stuffing NT, a quality RCB, moving Roy to SS and bringing in a true FS. I think moving Glover and Ellis to ends in a 3-4 system would be a mistake and just creates more problems to fix.
SALADIN
01-01-2005, 09:03 AM
Again Hos we have someone that thinks these guys can just be moved around willy-nilly with no drop-off in performance.
It doesn't work like that.
Take for example when Juke works the fryer all the time at McDonalds... and then one day his manager says, "Juke, I need you to work the drive-through window". Don't you think there would be a drop-off in performance? Certainly there would be a drop-off. All of a sudden what Juke was doing by instinct now requires thought. His performance will drop-off. It has too, that's the way humans work... or don't work (Well Juke I had to get the first shot of 2005 in :) ).
Moving Glover to end and then taking a guy that's use to working out of a three-point stance to now stand-up will result in the same thing. A drop-off in performance. Even moving Dat from MLB to ILB will have repercussions on his thinking process. To assume otherwise would be crazy and it would indicate someone really doesn't know how humans go about accomplishing tasks.
:muttley:
jimmy40
01-01-2005, 09:26 AM
Warren Sapp made this move and went from Pro Bowl caliber DT to warm body. Expect the same results if this happens. What a waste of a great DT.I would think if Parcells wants to go to the 3-4 he would trade Glover for players/picks that would fit.
Oh_Canada
01-01-2005, 09:29 AM
This is a great point.
While I am certainly intrigued about the idea of switching to a 3-4, this is what bugs me about it. Sapp is a waste, but then again, he was pretty much a waste the last couple of years in Tampa. So was it the move to end that did it or was it just his declining skills? Also, Glover is much quicker and in much better shape, end may be a natural move for him like it was for John Randle, a similar type of player to Glover. WOrst comes to worst, we have a great Nickle pass rusher.
I believe the personel swtich to go from the 4-3 to the 3-4 is a relatively easy one. We could bring in a couple of FA LBs, one big name and one lesser name. Then draft this Kid Ahmad Brooks to play middle with Dat. I'm not buying all of this Kalen Throrton starting in a 3-4 stuff. He hasn't showed me much this year and I am certainly not ready to be handing him a starting job. Brady James may flourish in a 3-4 scheme.
We would also have to bring in a Vet DT to man the nose. Ferguson is a guy I really like but I am not sure he is a 3-4 nose. Pat Williams would be a great addition. I'm sure there are other productive big men in FA but we could also draft another big body in the 2nd round.
Whatever happens this offseason with our defense, whether we stick to the 4-3 or go to the 3-4, i think it goes without saying that we have to bring in Dlineman and LBs and a Safety and a Corner. Basically, an entire overhual of our D.
Sapp is a poor example....he was on the downside of his career when he went to the Raiders. He would have stunk either way.
-How about Igor Olshansky who played the majority of his college career at Oregon State playing tackle and now finds himself at end in the 3-4 with the San Diego Chargers?
-Kimo Von Oelhoffen played 16 games at tackle for the Cinncinati Bengals in 2000 before he went to Pittsburgh to play END.....he seem like he has done pretty well.
-Richard Seymour and Ty Warren were primarily tackles in college who have made a pretty successful jump to end in the 3-4 with New England.
I think La Roi Glover would make a very good end in the 3-4, he has the requisite size, speed and strength to play the position and I cannot see a change of stance hurting him in any way.
Looking at the team roster, it's apparent the Boys will need another tackle, rush end, and outside backer if they remain in the 4-3...a switch to the 3-4 would require a NT, OLB, and ILB....you can argue that moving to the 3-4 actually is easier personnel wise, than fixing the current defense.
Parcells has begun to bring in the personnel to play in the 3-4, he has added the package to his exsisting defense and he will complete the transformation by 2005.
Hostile
01-01-2005, 09:43 AM
Again Hos we have someone that thinks these guys can just be moved around willy-nilly with no drop-off in performance.
It doesn't work like that.
Take for example when Juke works the fryer all the time at McDonalds... and then one day his manager says, "Juke, I need you to work the drive-through window". Don't you think there would be a drop-off in performance? Certainly there would be a drop-off. All of a sudden what Juke was doing by instinct now requires thought. His performance will drop-off. It has too, that's the way humans work... or don't work (Well Juke I had to get the first shot of 2005 in :) ).
Moving Glover to end and then taking a guy that's use to working out of a three-point stance to now stand-up will result in the same thing. A drop-off in performance. Even moving Dat from MLB to ILB will have repercussions on his thinking process. To assume otherwise would be crazy and it would indicate someone really doesn't know how humans go about accomplishing tasks.My ribs hurt. That was beautiful man.
Hostile
01-01-2005, 09:46 AM
I would think if Parcells wants to go to the 3-4 he would trade Glover for players/picks that would fit.Perhaps he will. It wouldn't surprise me. I just think it is silly to take a guy playing at a Pro Bowl level at his position and file 13 him. If he were a typical NT guy then this move would make a lot of sense to me. He's not, and is easily our most productive DL player.
If it ain't broke don't fix it, and he ain't broke. [/slang off]
Everything else you can fix. Leave Glover alone.
Hostile
01-01-2005, 09:48 AM
No wonder my daily trip to Micky Ds is taking so long now. :D
I don't get the fascination with wanting to go to the 3-4. The problem with the defense isn't because they run the 4-3. It is the fact that they don't have enough talent. Dallas didn't fix the obvious flaws with the defense from last season and as a result they are worse.
I think the 3-4 is a very good system with the right talent. It just will be harder to convert to it than it will be to fix the current 4-3 scheme. Either sytem still will require bringing in a pass rusher for the right side, a huge run stuffing NT, a quality RCB, moving Roy to SS and bringing in a true FS. I think moving Glover and Ellis to ends in a 3-4 system would be a mistake and just creates more problems to fix.Yes, with the right talent it is a great system. I will be in favor of this shift when and only when we have a NT on this team. Until then discussing it is about as usefull as spitting into the wind.
jimmy40
01-01-2005, 09:51 AM
Perhaps he will. It wouldn't surprise me. I just think it is silly to take a guy playing at a Pro Bowl level at his position and file 13 him. If he were a typical NT guy then this move would make a lot of sense to me. He's not, and is easily our most productive DL player.
If it ain't broke don't fix it, and he ain't broke. [/slang off]
Everything else you can fix. Leave Glover alone.I've just gotta believe Parcells is going to go back to the defense that got him to where he is. Of course I thought he would do this when he got here so who knows?
Hostile
01-01-2005, 09:53 AM
I've just gotta believe Parcells is going to go back to the defense that got him to where he is. Of course I thought he would do this when he got here so who knows?I won't be shocked or appalled if he does. Changing just for the sake of change rarely works. I still think you need the personnel to fit the scheme.
jimmy40
01-01-2005, 09:54 AM
. Until then discussing it is about as usefull as spitting into the wind.
Could be worse. You could be reading the thread on who you'd rather play next year, Detroit or Minnesota.
Hostile
01-01-2005, 09:57 AM
Could be worse. You could be reading the thread on who you'd rather play next year, Detroit or Minnesota.Been there, done that. There are some good thoughts there though. I can't ever bring myself to root for us to lose, but draft picks and schedule can make it easier to accept once it is done. We'll beat the Giants.
JackMagist
01-01-2005, 10:13 AM
I could actually see this happening...using Glover as an End in the 3-4 that is. Except that I would use him on the left side not the right. Left DE in a 3-4 is not all that different from where he plays now. He plays between the guard and tackle in his current position and that is about the same spot a 3-4 DE lines up. Oh BTW, another reason that Sapp was a bad example is that he played the NT position so it was a much bigger adjustment for him to move out and play the DE position.
The player I see having the hardest time fitting into a 3-4 is Ellis. He plays the conventional DE in the 4-3 which is mostly outside the OT. Moveing in and playing the inside gap on the OT would be a huge change for him. A much bigger change than Glover would have to make. So regardless of which way we go 3-4 or 4-3 we are going to need a NT and a DE.
As for the LB's; we have Thornton for ROLB. Shanle is a big 3-4 type LB who has been playing well and could likely fill the LILB slot. I think Nuygen is a guy who can play in either system and could handle the RILB slot. But we need to pick up someone for the LOLB slot. Also, I would feel better if we could get Hartwell from Baltimore and/or Bell from Pittsburg; they would be upgrades for the ILB slots over Shanle or Nuygen.
big dog cowboy
01-01-2005, 10:43 AM
if we go to the 3-4
There will no living with Nors.
Sapp is a poor example....he was on the downside of his career when he went to the Raiders. He would have stunk either way.
-How about Igor Olshansky who played the majority of his college career at Oregon State playing tackle and now finds himself at end in the 3-4 with the San Diego Chargers?
-Kimo Von Oelhoffen played 16 games at tackle for the Cinncinati Bengals in 2000 before he went to Pittsburgh to play END.....he seem like he has done pretty well.
-Richard Seymour and Ty Warren were primarily tackles in college who have made a pretty successful jump to end in the 3-4 with New England.
I think La Roi Glover would make a very good end in the 3-4, he has the requisite size, speed and strength to play the position and I cannot see a change of stance hurting him in any way.
Looking at the team roster, it's apparent the Boys will need another tackle, rush end, and outside backer if they remain in the 4-3...a switch to the 3-4 would require a NT, OLB, and ILB....you can argue that moving to the 3-4 actually is easier personnel wise, than fixing the current defense.
Parcells has begun to bring in the personnel to play in the 3-4, he has added the package to his exsisting defense and he will complete the transformation by 2005.
Rogers
Bell/Hartwell
Rodrique Wright DT/NT
Thomas Davis FS Kid is a stud
Marcus Spears DE
Pollack OLB
We land most of that that and we can run 3-4 AND 4-3
There will no living with Nors.
Parcells implemented it some this season. Is adding 3-4 parts and will gear it up in 2005. Our front 7 needs retool no matter how you look at it.
We'll play both 4-3 and 3-4 next year.
big dog cowboy
01-01-2005, 11:24 AM
Parcells implemented it some this season. Is adding 3-4 parts and will gear it up in 2005. Our front 7 needs retool no matter how you look at it.
We'll play both 4-3 and 3-4 next year.
Actually I don't give a crap what we do. As long as it works and we go back to dominating. I don't care if that means being the #1 defense in the NFL or not. I miss the agressive play we had..... was that 10 years ago already?
Redball Express
01-01-2005, 11:51 AM
Sapp is a poor example....he was on the downside of his career when he went to the Raiders. He would have stunk either way.
-How about Igor Olshansky who played the majority of his college career at Oregon State playing tackle and now finds himself at end in the 3-4 with the San Diego Chargers?
-Kimo Von Oelhoffen played 16 games at tackle for the Cinncinati Bengals in 2000 before he went to Pittsburgh to play END.....he seem like he has done pretty well.
-Richard Seymour and Ty Warren were primarily tackles in college who have made a pretty successful jump to end in the 3-4 with New England.
I think La Roi Glover would make a very good end in the 3-4, he has the requisite size, speed and strength to play the position and I cannot see a change of stance hurting him in any way.
Looking at the team roster, it's apparent the Boys will need another tackle, rush end, and outside backer if they remain in the 4-3...a switch to the 3-4 would require a NT, OLB, and ILB....you can argue that moving to the 3-4 actually is easier personnel wise, than fixing the current defense.
Parcells has begun to bring in the personnel to play in the 3-4, he has added the package to his exsisting defense and he will complete the transformation by 2005.
I'd agree with most of your points.
The change to the 3-4 will go full-blown now in the off season. I. too, belive there is about 6-7 guys on the present defense that would fit a 3-4 scheme and it would probably free up their talent better than the present 4-3 would.
We've heard lot's of pro's and cons about the defense this year and heard the coaches simplified the defenses to let the new guys playing learn enough to get some stability here at the end of the season.
And with new guys coming in, and more in the off-season, the table is set to make the change to 3-4 now. Everybody will be learning a new defense, true. But they will all learn it together. That's a good thing.
Sure there will be problems at times, but if personnel are drafted and FA's signed who c ome from a 3-4 system, it will be a lot less ragged than some think.
And when you stopped and think about the cap impact of trying to find players to play a 3-4, this will help even more. To carry only three starters on the line and having their backups is going to cost less than trying to come up with 4 DL to fit our scheme. It just can't be done well in the current system.
Just look at the draft picks at #1 or #2 we have thrown at the positions along the line to make it work, and it's still not fixed. The only guys in the last 10 years we've had that were worth anything were Ellis and Glover. That's it.
It's bound to be easier to find 3 starters for the DL thru FA or the draft to fix that problem and then load up on the LB's and secondary guys needed to fit the rest of the schemes.
Additionally, in the 3-4, you play alot of zone coverage. Not so much man-to-man like we presently do. This should help Newman be better as he can do more covering and less physical coverage, it should help these new guys we are playing because it will work the same for them.
Changing the schemes to fit our defensive personnel make a bunch more sense than continuing to pound away in a scheme that hasn't really ever been a truly great defense since the days of Haley.
I say, go for it. Go to the 3-4 and let's get on with the turnover of the players required to make it work.
The offense has already gone thru a bunch of changes to make the transition the offensive coaches want. If it were not for the injuries to Jones and the loss of our starting WR's/TE's or them being slowed with injuries like Key, it pretty obvious to all of us, even with Vinny, this team would have won 10+ games.
So if the defense can be improved with more changes, and the offense improved by getting it healthy and hopefully a settled QB solution..we should be heading in a much better direction by July.
My biggest question is keeping Zimmer. If they keep him, which they might, it probably means letting the other defensive coaches go and 3-4 assitant coaches brought in. That would make sense to me. Especially because Zimmer just signed a new contract last year.
And if the defense doesn't show improvement next year, possibly Zimmer gets replaced or demoted. But whatever.
I, for one, look forward to the off-season. I don't think any of us are going to be bored with the 'Boys, they are going to be dealing alot more than they did in this last off-season.
We'll see.
Happy New Year to everybody. May '05 be the year of the turnaround that was originally predicted for our team.
Later.
Parcellswaterboy
STSINAZ
01-01-2005, 12:20 PM
so hostile are you saying that we should leave him as the DT in the 3-4 scheme? there is no way he could do that being as small as he is..
QUOTE=Hostile]Perhaps he will. It wouldn't surprise me. I just think it is silly to take a guy playing at a Pro Bowl level at his position and file 13 him. If he were a typical NT guy then this move would make a lot of sense to me. He's not, and is easily our most productive DL player.
If it ain't broke don't fix it, and he ain't broke. [/slang off]
Everything else you can fix. Leave Glover alone.[/QUOTE]
STSINAZ
01-01-2005, 12:22 PM
yeah I agree that the Sapp example was ridiculous...the guy sucked the year before he was kicked out of tampa bay!
I could actually see this happening...using Glover as an End in the 3-4 that is. Except that I would use him on the left side not the right. Left DE in a 3-4 is not all that different from where he plays now. He plays between the guard and tackle in his current position and that is about the same spot a 3-4 DE lines up. Oh BTW, another reason that Sapp was a bad example is that he played the NT position so it was a much bigger adjustment for him to move out and play the DE position.
The player I see having the hardest time fitting into a 3-4 is Ellis. He plays the conventional DE in the 4-3 which is mostly outside the OT. Moveing in and playing the inside gap on the OT would be a huge change for him. A much bigger change than Glover would have to make. So regardless of which way we go 3-4 or 4-3 we are going to need a NT and a DE.
As for the LB's; we have Thornton for ROLB. Shanle is a big 3-4 type LB who has been playing well and could likely fill the LILB slot. I think Nuygen is a guy who can play in either system and could handle the RILB slot. But we need to pick up someone for the LOLB slot. Also, I would feel better if we could get Hartwell from Baltimore and/or Bell from Pittsburg; they would be upgrades for the ILB slots over Shanle or Nuygen.
Oh_Canada
01-01-2005, 12:28 PM
"Parcells said he also still has hopes for defensive end Kenyon Coleman, who also has played sparingly of late, adding that Coleman might be more useful as a two-gap linemen most likely in a 3-4 scheme."
Sounds like a coach preparing to use the formation full-time next season.
blindzebra
01-01-2005, 12:29 PM
Sapp is a poor example....he was on the downside of his career when he went to the Raiders. He would have stunk either way.
-How about Igor Olshansky who played the majority of his college career at Oregon State playing tackle and now finds himself at end in the 3-4 with the San Diego Chargers?
-Kimo Von Oelhoffen played 16 games at tackle for the Cinncinati Bengals in 2000 before he went to Pittsburgh to play END.....he seem like he has done pretty well.
-Richard Seymour and Ty Warren were primarily tackles in college who have made a pretty successful jump to end in the 3-4 with New England.
I think La Roi Glover would make a very good end in the 3-4, he has the requisite size, speed and strength to play the position and I cannot see a change of stance hurting him in any way.
Looking at the team roster, it's apparent the Boys will need another tackle, rush end, and outside backer if they remain in the 4-3...a switch to the 3-4 would require a NT, OLB, and ILB....you can argue that moving to the 3-4 actually is easier personnel wise, than fixing the current defense.
Parcells has begun to bring in the personnel to play in the 3-4, he has added the package to his exsisting defense and he will complete the transformation by 2005.
Yep, and all the guys you mentioned are 300 pounds. Glover and Ellis are 280. ;)
so hostile are you saying that we should leave him as the DT in the 3-4 scheme? there is no way he could do that being as small as he is..
QUOTE=Hostile]Perhaps he will. It wouldn't surprise me. I just think it is silly to take a guy playing at a Pro Bowl level at his position and file 13 him. If he were a typical NT guy then this move would make a lot of sense to me. He's not, and is easily our most productive DL player.
If it ain't broke don't fix it, and he ain't broke. [/slang off]
Everything else you can fix. Leave Glover alone.[/QUOTE]
The Defense is broken!!!!!!!!!! He will benefit from a large NT and 3-4 DE's are hybrid DT's in reality. He will excel at 3-4 DE. He's an interior player who will wreak havoc wherever you line him up.
4-3
3-4
We will play both next year!
Oh_Canada
01-01-2005, 12:39 PM
Yep, and all the guys you mentioned are 300 pounds. Glover and Ellis are 280. ;)
Both Ellis and Glover are capable of being around 290 which is reasonable.
Coleman can easily get his weight to 300lbs or very close.
jimmy40
01-01-2005, 12:41 PM
Both Ellis and Glover are capable of being around 290 which is reasonable.
Coleman can easily get his weight to 300lbs or very close.They're capable of being 350, doesn't mean they can play at that weight.
joseephuss
01-01-2005, 01:44 PM
Sapp is a poor example....he was on the downside of his career when he went to the Raiders. He would have stunk either way.
-How about Igor Olshansky who played the majority of his college career at Oregon State playing tackle and now finds himself at end in the 3-4 with the San Diego Chargers?
-Kimo Von Oelhoffen played 16 games at tackle for the Cinncinati Bengals in 2000 before he went to Pittsburgh to play END.....he seem like he has done pretty well.
-Richard Seymour and Ty Warren were primarily tackles in college who have made a pretty successful jump to end in the 3-4 with New England.
I think La Roi Glover would make a very good end in the 3-4, he has the requisite size, speed and strength to play the position and I cannot see a change of stance hurting him in any way.
Looking at the team roster, it's apparent the Boys will need another tackle, rush end, and outside backer if they remain in the 4-3...a switch to the 3-4 would require a NT, OLB, and ILB....you can argue that moving to the 3-4 actually is easier personnel wise, than fixing the current defense.
Parcells has begun to bring in the personnel to play in the 3-4, he has added the package to his exsisting defense and he will complete the transformation by 2005.
Ty Warren is 6'-5" tall and 300 lbs. He split time at A&M at both tackle and end in their 3-4 system. He has also split time in the Patriots system at both positions with the majority at end.
I think Glover and Ellis could probably play ends in a 3-4, but both are best utlized in the current system.
Ty Warren is 6'-5" tall and 300 lbs. He split time at A&M at both tackle and end in their 3-4 system. He has also split time in the Patriots system at both positions with the majority at end.
I think Glover and Ellis could probably play ends in a 3-4, but both are best utlized in the current system.
Our defense needs upgrades.
Its easier to find 3-4 Ends than 4-3 ends.
I still suspect we play both 4-3 and 3-4 next season.
joseephuss
01-01-2005, 02:22 PM
Our defense needs upgrades.
Its easier to find 3-4 Ends than 4-3 ends.
I still suspect we play both 4-3 and 3-4 next season.
Everyone agrees that the defense needs upgrades and yes when it comes to Glover and Ellis, they are best suited for the 4-3 than the 3-4. Them playing in the 3-4 is a downgrade. If it takes trading them to get players better suited for the 3-4 sytem, fine. It just doesn't work that easily in the salary cap era.
If they can find players capable of playing at a high level and provide different formations and schemes for offenses to worry about, that would be great, too.
I don't care what system Dallas runs as long as it is a good one. I just think it would be easier to stay in a 4-3 and find talent to fill the holes that are there and were there last season than to switch to a new system altogether.
JackMagist
01-01-2005, 02:56 PM
I just think it would be easier to stay in a 4-3 and find talent to fill the holes that are there and were there last season than to switch to a new system altogether.I would think it would be easier also. However, Parcells has never been comfortable with the 4-3 that we play; hw wants the 3-4 that he knows well. That is the main reason that we will be making the switch...to appease BP's comfort zone.
STSINAZ
01-01-2005, 06:03 PM
good post.
Our defense needs upgrades.
Its easier to find 3-4 Ends than 4-3 ends.
I still suspect we play both 4-3 and 3-4 next season.
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