We will not go after another young qb.....

[Ken]

So says me.

I just had the revelation after watching Henson's highlight reel against the Ravens.

Remember what Ron Wolfe said about Henson. He initially thought, after scouting him, that he wasn't a franchise qb. After watching him in Training Camp, he then admitted that he could be a franchise type guy and was very impressed with him.

Remember Jerry Jones salivating to see Henson play. He obviously has shown great things in practice for Jerry to get that worked up about him. Remember his scrimmage performance this preseason when he was practically unconcious.

The kid has shown plenty. I really think BP is really wanting to bring him along slowly, ala, Pennington. I think he liked how that situation worked out, having Pennington sit out his first year and then take over under an optimal setting. BP has more or less admitted this on numerous occasions. I can't say that I can argue with having a guy who hasn't played in 3 years, sit and learn and Practice as much as he can. It probably is very true that Henson, with his circumstance, could be ruined by putting him in when we initially did. Bash VT as much as you want, but he is doing an absolute monumental job here. He is mentoring Henson, something BP has spoken about numerous times. He is showing him how to prepare, workout, watch film, and handle adversity. This is something all of our young qbs since Aikman never had.

I also remember when Doug Pederson(Biggest piece of crap ever!) was qbing the Eagles, Mcnabb's rookie year. I, the eagles fans, and probably the players couldn't understand why he was starting. Andy Reid constantly said that Doug was doing things that we will never be able to repay him for. Now, realize that Pederson was woefully ineffective the first 9 or so games that year. Turns out, Reid was right, Pederson worked with McNabb on the very things I mentioned in the previous paragraph.

I believe Henson showed great things leading up to that start against Chicago. Vinny was pretty bad and had that injury. The way that first half unfolded, it wasn't advantagous for Henson to be out there after initially struggling. BP realized this and yanked him. I believe he wanted to see if this guy could be lightening in a bottle after what he showed in Practice and against the Ravens. Once the Bears showed how they would attack him, and without the proper supporting cast, and the hesitantcy shown by Henson, BP just canned the experiment.

As for Romo, he is not an option at all. We know what we saw in TC. We know he is a marginal talent. We know he wouldn't have been here if QC didn't mess up. I see him as the third qb next year with another semi vet brought in. We are not trading for another qb. No Way.

Next year, we will see Henson starting with a vet backing him up. We will see the Oline shored up come hell or high water. Another back brought in. Another Wr brought in. There will be an environment condusive to being successful, surrounding Henson. Parcells has hinted at this a couple of times this week in his PCs.

Let's not fall for some of these wacked out ideas and stick with the logical plan that is right in front of us.

[big dog cowboy]

Next year, we will see Henson starting with a vet backing him up. We will see the Oline shored up come hell or high water. Another back brought in. Another Wr brought in. There will be an environment condusive to being successful, surrounding Henson. Parcells has hinted at this a couple of times this week in his PCs.

Let's not fall for some of these wacked out ideas and stick with the logical plan that is right in front of us.

Sounds simple enough. Actually an effective running game would do wonders for our passing game. So would a QB who didn't toss int's around like cheap pickup lines at a bar.

[Woods]

So says me.

I just had the revelation after watching Henson's highlight reel against the Ravens.

Remember what Ron Wolfe said about Henson. He initially thought, after scouting him, that he wasn't a franchise qb. After watching him in Training Camp, he then admitted that he could be a franchise type guy and was very impressed with him.

Remember Jerry Jones salivating to see Henson play. He obviously has shown great things in practice for Jerry to get that worked up about him. Remember his scrimmage performance this preseason when he was practically unconcious.

The kid has shown plenty. I really think BP is really wanting to bring him along slowly, ala, Pennington. I think he liked how that situation worked out, having Pennington sit out his first year and then take over under an optimal setting. BP has more or less admitted this on numerous occasions. I can't say that I can argue with having a guy who hasn't played in 3 years, sit and learn and Practice as much as he can. It probably is very true that Henson, with his circumstance, could be ruined by putting him in when we initially did. Bash VT as much as you want, but he is doing an absolute monumental job here. He is mentoring Henson, something BP has spoken about numerous times. He is showing him how to prepare, workout, watch film, and handle adversity. This is something all of our young qbs since Aikman never had.

I also remember when Doug Pederson(Biggest piece of crap ever!) was qbing the Eagles, Mcnabb's rookie year. I, the eagles fans, and probably the players couldn't understand why he was starting. Andy Reid constantly said that Doug was doing things that we will never be able to repay him for. Now, realize that Pederson was woefully ineffective the first 9 or so games that year. Turns out, Reid was right, Pederson worked with McNabb on the very things I mentioned in the previous paragraph.

I believe Henson showed great things leading up to that start against Chicago. Vinny was pretty bad and had that injury. The way that first half unfolded, it wasn't advantagous for Henson to be out there after initially struggling. BP realized this and yanked him. I believe he wanted to see if this guy could be lightening in a bottle after what he showed in Practice and against the Ravens. Once the Bears showed how they would attack him, and without the proper supporting cast, and the hesitantcy shown by Henson, BP just canned the experiment.

As for Romo, he is not an option at all. We know what we saw in TC. We know he is a marginal talent. We know he wouldn't have been here if QC didn't mess up. I see him as the third qb next year with another semi vet brought in. We are not trading for another qb. No Way.

Next year, we will see Henson starting with a vet backing him up. We will see the Oline shored up come hell or high water. Another back brought in. Another Wr brought in. There will be an environment condusive to being successful, surrounding Henson. Parcells has hinted at this a couple of times this week in his PCs.

Let's not fall for some of these wacked out ideas and stick with the logical plan that is right in front of us.

Very good post.

The only point I'd add is that even with the "right" supporting cast, I don't expect Henson to light it up next year. I think he's still going to go through growing pains; however, his pains will be much more manageable with complementary players around him in 2005.

BP already said to the Washington press that the situation with the Cowboys next year is going to be similar to the Redskins this year in that we're going to have to bring a young QB slowly along, which probably initially includes condensing the playbook.

[Ken]

Very good post.

The only point I'd add is that even with the "right" supporting cast, I don't expect Henson to light it up next year. I think he's still going to go through growing pains; however, his pains will be much more manageable with complementary players around him in 2005.

BP already said to the Washington press that the situation with the Cowboys next year is going to be similar to the Redskins this year in that we're going to have to bring a young QB slowly along, which probably initially includes condensing the playbook.

I agree.

I equate Henson next year, to be very similar to Carson Palmer's year. Started pretty slowly this year, then you could see him start to get better and better. This guy tore apart the Ravens a few weeks ago.

I see us, as Parcells said, putting a great defense on the field and the right pieces around Henson.

[Woods]

I agree.

I equate Henson next year, to be very similar to Carson Palmer's year. Started pretty slowly this year, then you could see him start to get better and better. This guy tore apart the Ravens a few weeks ago.

I see us, as Parcells said, putting a great defense on the field and the right pieces around Henson.

As far as the offense goes this off-season, I REALLY hope we try to pick up a good WR in FA to complement Glenn and Key. I don't want to necessarily count on Q. Morgan as the number 2 in case either Glenn or Key get injured next year.

Also, another RB is a MUST.

As for the OL, I think the Gurode experiment is over. Let's get a decent Guard in FA. As for RT, it really depends if BP thinks Rogers can man the LT spot adequately.

In any case, we're talking about a solid number 2 RB, one more decent WR, and a starting Guard. This is all doable, IMO.

[lwehlers]

I agree.

I equate Henson next year, to be very similar to Carson Palmer's year. Started pretty slowly this year, then you could see him start to get better and better. This guy tore apart the Ravens a few weeks ago.

I see us, as Parcells said, putting a great defense on the field and the right pieces around Henson.

i see henson as our kyle boller type qb not a carson palmer for us next year. i remember boller struggling in the early games this year for the ravens but as the season has gone on he has played somewhat better. he has still had his bad games but he has shown he can carry a team at certain times in a game. he does have a strong running game when lewis has been healthy. now parcells needs to make sure the o-line is fixed. also a strong defense is a young qbs best friend like the steelers have done for ben rothlisberger (sp?).

[Dale]

Good post, Ken. And if this is the Cowboys' plan, it's a sound one in my book. Allowing a rookie in Henson's situation to use his first season as all but a learning experience is a wise move. If Henson were coming straight from college after being handed a $10 million signing bonus as a top-ten pick, I'd have a different tune.

[Tio]

hey dale, have you actually seen Henson in practice? Is there a notable difference in his play?

[Dale]

hey dale, have you actually seen Henson in practice? Is there a notable difference in his play?

I've only seen him in mini-camps and throughout training camp.

[lwehlers]

Good post, Ken. And if this is the Cowboys' plan, it's a sound one in my book. Allowing a rookie in Henson's situation to use his first season as all but a learning experience is a wise move. If Henson were coming straight from college after being handed a $10 million signing bonus as a top-ten pick, I'd have a different tune.

i also think that is good point dale. we did not give henson a big contract so there was really no pressure to play henson this year unlike the the problem the giants had with manning. even though i would have liked to see henson play this year. having missed three years without playing football it was probaly the best this year to get henson used to practicing and watching film to get back to speed on the mental approach that henson will need to be a starting qb in nfl.

[Waffle]

hey dale, have you actually seen Henson in practice? Is there a notable difference in his play?This is what I was wondering.

Man it sure would be nice if Henson ends up being the answer. However, I don't think one can just say Romo is "not an option" since we don't really know the answer to that. We haven't seen him play enough to make that call at this time.

With all that said, I wouldn't be shocked in the least if we drafted a young QB.

[VA Cowboy]

If Henson isn't the answer, then we're in trouble, because we have no one else.

[Ken]

i see henson as our kyle boller type qb not a carson palmer for us next year. i remember boller struggling in the early games this year for the ravens but as the season has gone on he has played somewhat better. he has still had his bad games but he has shown he can carry a team at certain times in a game. he does have a strong running game when lewis has been healthy. now parcells needs to make sure the o-line is fixed. also a strong defense is a young qbs best friend like the steelers have done for ben rothlisberger (sp?).

Boy, I hope your wrong.

I see Boller as never getting much better than he is now. This is his second year of playing and I honestly don't see much improvement in him from what I saw last year.

I truly hope his season is more along the lines of Palmers next year, or we are in trouble.

[Ken]

Good post, Ken. And if this is the Cowboys' plan, it's a sound one in my book. Allowing a rookie in Henson's situation to use his first season as all but a learning experience is a wise move. If Henson were coming straight from college after being handed a $10 million signing bonus as a top-ten pick, I'd have a different tune.
Good point.

In the giants case, not only do they have the $10 million signing bonus and a top ten pick, they also have what looks to be a this year's top 5 pick. :eek:

They gave up waaaaay to much for a guy they could have gotten without giving up their first next season.

[THEHEREAFTER]

So says me.

I just had the revelation after watching Henson's highlight reel against the Ravens.

Remember what Ron Wolfe said about Henson. He initially thought, after scouting him, that he wasn't a franchise qb. After watching him in Training Camp, he then admitted that he could be a franchise type guy and was very impressed with him.

Remember Jerry Jones salivating to see Henson play. He obviously has shown great things in practice for Jerry to get that worked up about him. Remember his scrimmage performance this preseason when he was practically unconcious.

The kid has shown plenty. I really think BP is really wanting to bring him along slowly, ala, Pennington. I think he liked how that situation worked out, having Pennington sit out his first year and then take over under an optimal setting. BP has more or less admitted this on numerous occasions. I can't say that I can argue with having a guy who hasn't played in 3 years, sit and learn and Practice as much as he can. It probably is very true that Henson, with his circumstance, could be ruined by putting him in when we initially did. Bash VT as much as you want, but he is doing an absolute monumental job here. He is mentoring Henson, something BP has spoken about numerous times. He is showing him how to prepare, workout, watch film, and handle adversity. This is something all of our young qbs since Aikman never had.

I also remember when Doug Pederson(Biggest piece of crap ever!) was qbing the Eagles, Mcnabb's rookie year. I, the eagles fans, and probably the players couldn't understand why he was starting. Andy Reid constantly said that Doug was doing things that we will never be able to repay him for. Now, realize that Pederson was woefully ineffective the first 9 or so games that year. Turns out, Reid was right, Pederson worked with McNabb on the very things I mentioned in the previous paragraph.

I believe Henson showed great things leading up to that start against Chicago. Vinny was pretty bad and had that injury. The way that first half unfolded, it wasn't advantagous for Henson to be out there after initially struggling. BP realized this and yanked him. I believe he wanted to see if this guy could be lightening in a bottle after what he showed in Practice and against the Ravens. Once the Bears showed how they would attack him, and without the proper supporting cast, and the hesitantcy shown by Henson, BP just canned the experiment.

As for Romo, he is not an option at all. We know what we saw in TC. We know he is a marginal talent. We know he wouldn't have been here if QC didn't mess up. I see him as the third qb next year with another semi vet brought in. We are not trading for another qb. No Way.

Next year, we will see Henson starting with a vet backing him up. We will see the Oline shored up come hell or high water. Another back brought in. Another Wr brought in. There will be an environment condusive to being successful, surrounding Henson. Parcells has hinted at this a couple of times this week in his PCs.

Let's not fall for some of these wacked out ideas and stick with the logical plan that is right in front of us.


Great.. post.. some fans don't have the foresight or the patience to see how something MAY unravel.. I'm looking forward to an encouraging off season..

[Hostile]

So says me.

I just had the revelation after watching Henson's highlight reel against the Ravens.

Remember what Ron Wolfe said about Henson. He initially thought, after scouting him, that he wasn't a franchise qb. After watching him in Training Camp, he then admitted that he could be a franchise type guy and was very impressed with him.

Remember Jerry Jones salivating to see Henson play. He obviously has shown great things in practice for Jerry to get that worked up about him. Remember his scrimmage performance this preseason when he was practically unconcious.

The kid has shown plenty. I really think BP is really wanting to bring him along slowly, ala, Pennington. I think he liked how that situation worked out, having Pennington sit out his first year and then take over under an optimal setting. BP has more or less admitted this on numerous occasions. I can't say that I can argue with having a guy who hasn't played in 3 years, sit and learn and Practice as much as he can. It probably is very true that Henson, with his circumstance, could be ruined by putting him in when we initially did. Bash VT as much as you want, but he is doing an absolute monumental job here. He is mentoring Henson, something BP has spoken about numerous times. He is showing him how to prepare, workout, watch film, and handle adversity. This is something all of our young qbs since Aikman never had.

I also remember when Doug Pederson(Biggest piece of crap ever!) was qbing the Eagles, Mcnabb's rookie year. I, the eagles fans, and probably the players couldn't understand why he was starting. Andy Reid constantly said that Doug was doing things that we will never be able to repay him for. Now, realize that Pederson was woefully ineffective the first 9 or so games that year. Turns out, Reid was right, Pederson worked with McNabb on the very things I mentioned in the previous paragraph.

I believe Henson showed great things leading up to that start against Chicago. Vinny was pretty bad and had that injury. The way that first half unfolded, it wasn't advantagous for Henson to be out there after initially struggling. BP realized this and yanked him. I believe he wanted to see if this guy could be lightening in a bottle after what he showed in Practice and against the Ravens. Once the Bears showed how they would attack him, and without the proper supporting cast, and the hesitantcy shown by Henson, BP just canned the experiment.

As for Romo, he is not an option at all. We know what we saw in TC. We know he is a marginal talent. We know he wouldn't have been here if QC didn't mess up. I see him as the third qb next year with another semi vet brought in. We are not trading for another qb. No Way.

Next year, we will see Henson starting with a vet backing him up. We will see the Oline shored up come hell or high water. Another back brought in. Another Wr brought in. There will be an environment condusive to being successful, surrounding Henson. Parcells has hinted at this a couple of times this week in his PCs.

Let's not fall for some of these wacked out ideas and stick with the logical plan that is right in front of us.Post of the day. Purely about football, optimistic, rational, and well thought out and presented. I could read stuff like that all day and never get tired of it.

[Fletch]

So says me.

I just had the revelation after watching Henson's highlight reel against the Ravens.

Remember what Ron Wolfe said about Henson. He initially thought, after scouting him, that he wasn't a franchise qb. After watching him in Training Camp, he then admitted that he could be a franchise type guy and was very impressed with him.

Remember Jerry Jones salivating to see Henson play. He obviously has shown great things in practice for Jerry to get that worked up about him. Remember his scrimmage performance this preseason when he was practically unconcious.

The kid has shown plenty. I really think BP is really wanting to bring him along slowly, ala, Pennington. I think he liked how that situation worked out, having Pennington sit out his first year and then take over under an optimal setting. BP has more or less admitted this on numerous occasions. I can't say that I can argue with having a guy who hasn't played in 3 years, sit and learn and Practice as much as he can. It probably is very true that Henson, with his circumstance, could be ruined by putting him in when we initially did. Bash VT as much as you want, but he is doing an absolute monumental job here. He is mentoring Henson, something BP has spoken about numerous times. He is showing him how to prepare, workout, watch film, and handle adversity. This is something all of our young qbs since Aikman never had.

I also remember when Doug Pederson(Biggest piece of crap ever!) was qbing the Eagles, Mcnabb's rookie year. I, the eagles fans, and probably the players couldn't understand why he was starting. Andy Reid constantly said that Doug was doing things that we will never be able to repay him for. Now, realize that Pederson was woefully ineffective the first 9 or so games that year. Turns out, Reid was right, Pederson worked with McNabb on the very things I mentioned in the previous paragraph.

I believe Henson showed great things leading up to that start against Chicago. Vinny was pretty bad and had that injury. The way that first half unfolded, it wasn't advantagous for Henson to be out there after initially struggling. BP realized this and yanked him. I believe he wanted to see if this guy could be lightening in a bottle after what he showed in Practice and against the Ravens. Once the Bears showed how they would attack him, and without the proper supporting cast, and the hesitantcy shown by Henson, BP just canned the experiment.

As for Romo, he is not an option at all. We know what we saw in TC. We know he is a marginal talent. We know he wouldn't have been here if QC didn't mess up. I see him as the third qb next year with another semi vet brought in. We are not trading for another qb. No Way.

Next year, we will see Henson starting with a vet backing him up. We will see the Oline shored up come hell or high water. Another back brought in. Another Wr brought in. There will be an environment condusive to being successful, surrounding Henson. Parcells has hinted at this a couple of times this week in his PCs.

Let's not fall for some of these wacked out ideas and stick with the logical plan that is right in front of us.

Two thumbs up! Great post.

[Waffle]

Post of the day. Purely about football, optimistic, rational, and well thought out and presented. I could read stuff like that all day and never get tired of it.
And it doesn't hurt that his optimism about Henson mirrors yours, Hos! :D

[Nors]

And it doesn't hurt that his optimism about Henson mirrors yours, Hos! :D

We have a winner.

I hope our QB situation is settled next season. This is a mess - JMO

[Hostile]

And it doesn't hurt that his optimism about Henson mirrors yours, Hos! :DI actually like well thought out posts regardless of whether they agree with me or not, but you have a point.

[Hostile]

We have a winner.

I hope our QB situation is settled next season. This is a mess - JMOYou can thank Big Bill and the dinosaur for that. I have never been more disgusted in a season in my life than this one. Truly one I can't wait to forget. I hope I never see someone wearing a Vinny jersey.

[Waffle]

I actually like well thought out posts regardless of whether they agree with me or not, but you have a point.I actually hope he's right. I will admit that I was one who bought the Chad Hutchinson hype hook, line, and sinker. That has killed some of my optimism about Hensen so I now find myself overly cautious regarding the QB position.

I don't think it would be a mistake to at least bring in another young QB to give us a third option if necessary.

[Chuck 54]

Bottom line is that no one really knows what we have in Drew Henson...anyone who says he knows how the man's career will turn out is full of it. He has athletic ability and talent, and that is all we know...however, we DO know that many guys with athletic ability and talent fail to ever have an NFL career.

I don't care what the coaches do as long as it involves bringing in another option for next season, whether it's a rookie or a veteran. I will not be happy if it's Henson, Vinny, and Romo again, and I will not trust the braintrust knows what it's doing. We need options...the more options you have, the better chance you have of one of them working out.

I don't care if Vinny hits the road or Romo hits the road, but one of them needs to hit the road...my personal opinion is that if we even think Henson might be the real deal, then let Romo walk since he has no long range value to us....keep Vinny as a backup/mentor and bring in a veteran to compete with Henson for the starting job...Henson will win the position if he's ready, whether that's next season or another year or two later.

I want to see more options than this season.

[CaptainComeback]

As far as the offense goes this off-season, I REALLY hope we try to pick up a good WR in FA to complement Glenn and Key. I don't want to necessarily count on Q. Morgan as the number 2 in case either Glenn or Key get injured next year.

Also, another RB is a MUST.

As for the OL, I think the Gurode experiment is over. Let's get a decent Guard in FA. As for RT, it really depends if BP thinks Rogers can man the LT spot adequately.

In any case, we're talking about a solid number 2 RB, one more decent WR, and a starting Guard. This is all doable, IMO.

I'd like to not re-sign Quincy Morgan at all unless we re-sign him to trade him. He brings absolutely nothing to the team and there is no reason we should have traded Antonio Bryant for him.

[Nors]

Charlie Frye - The Roth comparisons are there

Dan Orlovski - Can really run an offense - intangibles. Bio reads like Brady, Schaub on Pro's, Cons

Smith - Utah Only saw him twice but he's impressive

[CaptainComeback]

Boy, I hope your wrong.

I see Boller as never getting much better than he is now. This is his second year of playing and I honestly don't see much improvement in him from what I saw last year.

I truly hope his season is more along the lines of Palmers next year, or we are in trouble.

Kyle Boller is a second year player who hasn't even started in 25 games, yet. And for those who truly understand the quarterback position he has made some strides from early last year to late this year because last season before his injury and earlier this season he looked like crap (particularly the Monday Night Game against the Chiefs where he looked like he had regressed).

Now Boller is starting to do better at managing games and going through his progression and making reads. He has also gotten a whole lot better at feeling pressure and knowing when to step up into the pocket to buy more time or to pick up the first down with his feet.

The key is that he has gotten better because he has been given the opportunity to play.

[BlueWave]

I like the original post. It might be right on. I hope it is, to be honest with you.

But, I think there is an alternate plan. I mentioned it before. I think plan A is to make a run at Matt Hasselbeck, if he makes it to the market. I'm not against the move, but I really think that Parcells has played the QB card in that direction. True, he may have wanted to keep Henson under wraps for his own good, or he may have wanted to keep him under wraps so he would not have a chance to show anything, therefore giving Parcells the opportunity to go after his boy Hasselbeck. Maybe a little of both.

So, I really think that if Hasselbeck is available (not franchised, ect.), and he most likely will be available, I think the Cowboys make a play for him initially, not breaking the bank, but a good solid contract offer. If they cannot land him, that is when I think the Henson plan for next season with go into effect, with either Testaverde or another midline veteran backing him up (Feidler, Brad Johnson, ect.). Parcells is ready to win next year. Hasselbeck is a franchice QB the day he steps into Valley Ranch. That speeds up the process for a Coach who is growing old and growing short on time. He would prefer to speed up the process if it is possible.

The bright side is, if Henson gets good enough to beat out Hasselbeck in two or three years, it's all the better for us.