The official draft order (w/minor changes)

[DaBoyz73]

Please read the following link to get the correct draft order information.

http://www.gbnreport.com/weeklydraftorder.htm

[AceofSpades]

If you take out the playoff teams heres how the first 20 picks look...

1 San Francisco 2-14 .488
2 Miami 4-12 .555
3 Cleveland 4-12 .590
4 Chicago 5-11 .465
5 Tampa Bay 5-11 .477
6 Tennessee 5-11 .508
7 Oakland 5-11 .570
8 Arizona 6-10 .461
9 Washington 6-10 .477
10 Detroit 6-10 .496
11 Dallas 6-10 .516
12 San Diego (from New York Giants) 6-10 .516
13 Houston 7-9 .504
14 Carolina 7-9 .508
15 Kansas City 7-9 .555
16 New Orleans 8-8 .465
17 Cincinnati 8-8 .543
18 Dallas (from Buffalo) 9-7 .512
19 Jacksonville 9-7 .527
20 Baltimore 9-7 .551

21 - 32 Playoff Teams

[jdnalls]

If you take out the playoff teams heres how the first 20 picks look...

1 San Francisco 2-14 .488
2 Miami 4-12 .555
3 Cleveland 4-12 .590
4 Chicago 5-11 .465
5 Tampa Bay 5-11 .477
6 Tennessee 5-11 .508
7 Oakland 5-11 .570
8 Arizona 6-10 .461
9 Washington 6-10 .477
10 Detroit 6-10 .496
11 Dallas 6-10 .516
12 San Diego (from New York Giants) 6-10 .516
13 Houston 7-9 .504
14 Carolina 7-9 .508
15 Kansas City 7-9 .555
16 New Orleans 8-8 .465
17 Cincinnati 8-8 .543
18 Dallas (from Buffalo) 9-7 .512
19 Jacksonville 9-7 .527
20 Baltimore 9-7 .551

21 - 32 Playoff Teams
Crap. I like ESPN's version better.

[DaBoyz73]

Crap. I like ESPN's version better.

Why?????????

[DaBoyz73]

If you take out the playoff teams heres how the first 20 picks look...

1 San Francisco 2-14 .488
2 Miami 4-12 .555
3 Cleveland 4-12 .590
4 Chicago 5-11 .465
5 Tampa Bay 5-11 .477
6 Tennessee 5-11 .508
7 Oakland 5-11 .570
8 Arizona 6-10 .461
9 Washington 6-10 .477
10 Detroit 6-10 .496
11 Dallas 6-10 .516
12 San Diego (from New York Giants) 6-10 .516
13 Houston 7-9 .504
14 Carolina 7-9 .508
15 Kansas City 7-9 .555
16 New Orleans 8-8 .465
17 Cincinnati 8-8 .543
18 Dallas (from Buffalo) 9-7 .512
19 Jacksonville 9-7 .527
20 Baltimore 9-7 .551

21 - 32 Playoff Teams


Thank God, someone finally got it right!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Tumbleweed]

* Draft Order Accurate Through Week 17 *
Order of Picks 18-32 to be Determined by the Results of the Playoffs

# Team W-L Opponents'
W-L %
1 San Francisco 2-14 .488
2 Miami 4-12 .555
3 Cleveland 4-12 .590
4 Chicago 5-11 .465
5 Tampa Bay 5-11 .477
6 Tennessee 5-11 .508
7 Oakland 5-11 .570
8 Arizona 6-10 .461
9 Washington 6-10 .477
10 Detroit 6-10 .496
11 Dallas 6-10 .516
12 San Diego (f/NYG) 6-10 .516
13 Houston 7-9 .504
14 Carolina 7-9 .508
15 Kansas City 7-9 .555
16 New Orleans 8-8 .465
17 Cincinnati 8-8 .543
18 Minnesota 8-8 .481
19 St. Louis 8-8 .488
20 Dallas (f/BUF) 9-7 .512
21 Jacksonville 9-7 .527
22 Baltimore 9-7 .551
23 Seattle 9-7 .445
24 Green Bay 10-6 .457
25 Denver 10-6 .484
26 New York Jets 10-6 .523
27 Atlanta 11-5 .434
28 San Diego 12-4 .477
29 Indianapolis 12-4 .500
30 New England 14-2 .492
31 Philadelphia 13-3 .453
32 Pittsburgh 15-1 .484

[Waffle]

Brad Sham said during the radio broadcast of the game that with the loss tonight, Dallas has the 11th pick and the 20th pick (from buffalo).

[DallasInDC]

I can live with that. We should be able to make a considerable improvement to our talent level with 2 of the top 18 picks and 3 of the top 40. add 3- 4 FA's. That would be 6-8 new starters for next year. If we can just get a real QB i.e Henson or FA and a new def coordinator to lead this team, we may be in good shape.

[DaBoyz73]

* Draft Order Accurate Through Week 17 *
Order of Picks 18-32 to be Determined by the Results of the Playoffs

# Team W-L Opponents'
W-L %
1 San Francisco 2-14 .488
2 Miami 4-12 .555
3 Cleveland 4-12 .590
4 Chicago 5-11 .465
5 Tampa Bay 5-11 .477
6 Tennessee 5-11 .508
7 Oakland 5-11 .570
8 Arizona 6-10 .461
9 Washington 6-10 .477
10 Detroit 6-10 .496
11 Dallas 6-10 .516
12 San Diego (f/NYG) 6-10 .516
13 Houston 7-9 .504
14 Carolina 7-9 .508
15 Kansas City 7-9 .555
16 New Orleans 8-8 .465
17 Cincinnati 8-8 .543
18 Minnesota 8-8 .481
19 St. Louis 8-8 .488
20 Dallas (f/BUF) 9-7 .512
21 Jacksonville 9-7 .527
22 Baltimore 9-7 .551
23 Seattle 9-7 .445
24 Green Bay 10-6 .457
25 Denver 10-6 .484
26 New York Jets 10-6 .523
27 Atlanta 11-5 .434
28 San Diego 12-4 .477
29 Indianapolis 12-4 .500
30 New England 14-2 .492
31 Philadelphia 13-3 .453
32 Pittsburgh 15-1 .484

Dallas would select 18th due to Minnesota and St. Louis making the playoffs.

[Eskimo]

* Draft Order Accurate Through Week 17 *
Order of Picks 18-32 to be Determined by the Results of the Playoffs

# Team W-L Opponents'
W-L %
1 San Francisco 2-14 .488
2 Miami 4-12 .555
3 Cleveland 4-12 .590
4 Chicago 5-11 .465
5 Tampa Bay 5-11 .477
6 Tennessee 5-11 .508
7 Oakland 5-11 .570
8 Arizona 6-10 .461
9 Washington 6-10 .477
10 Detroit 6-10 .496
11 Dallas 6-10 .516
12 San Diego (f/NYG) 6-10 .516
13 Houston 7-9 .504
14 Carolina 7-9 .508
15 Kansas City 7-9 .555
16 New Orleans 8-8 .465
17 Cincinnati 8-8 .543
18 Minnesota 8-8 .481
19 St. Louis 8-8 .488
20 Dallas (f/BUF) 9-7 .512
21 Jacksonville 9-7 .527
22 Baltimore 9-7 .551
23 Seattle 9-7 .445
24 Green Bay 10-6 .457
25 Denver 10-6 .484
26 New York Jets 10-6 .523
27 Atlanta 11-5 .434
28 San Diego 12-4 .477
29 Indianapolis 12-4 .500
30 New England 14-2 .492
31 Philadelphia 13-3 .453
32 Pittsburgh 15-1 .484

If you read what Hos posted earlier, I interpret the above to mean Dallas (via Buffalo) picks 20th unless one of Minnesota or St. Louis advance to the SB in which case we would pick 19th.

Oh well, our pick will be better than the one we traded away anyway.

[jdnalls]

Why?????????
Maybe because we picked at 8 instead of 11.

[Waffle]

Dallas would select 18th due to Minnesota and St. Louis making the playoffs.
I believe this is correct. Playoff teams ALWAYS draft lower than non-playoff teams despite their records.

[Eskimo]

I believe this is correct. Playoff teams ALWAYS draft lower than non-playoff teams despite their records.

GBN knows this stuff cold. Why would whatever happens to Minn and StL in the playoffs affect the draft position of Buffalo, Jax and Baltimore who didn't make the playoffs if that were the case.

If you look back at what Hos posted, the issue is that the draft will go off roughly as listed. The major exception being possible re-slotting for the SB teams who pick 31 and 32. Thus, the only way our pick changes from 20th is if Minn or St. Louis advance to the SB in which case we will pick 19th.

[Waffle]

GBN knows this stuff cold. Why would whatever happens to Minn and StL in the playoffs affect the draft position of Buffalo, Jax and Baltimore who didn't make the playoffs if that were the case.

If you look back at what Hos posted, the issue is that the draft will go off roughly as listed. The major exception being possible re-slotting for the SB teams who pick 31 and 32. Thus, the only way our pick changes from 20th is if Minn or St. Louis advance to the SB in which case we will pick 19th.Because I always thought playoff teams automatically finish ahead of non-playoff teams no matter their records. Maybe I'm wrong.

If I am, I won't feel too bad since all these "official" draft order sites are showing different results.

[AdamJT13]

Unless the Rams or Vikings go to the Super Bowl, our pick from Buffalo will be 20th. The ONLY teams that are not put in order based on their record are the Super Bowl winner and loser. Every other team remains in their "segment" -- their group of teams with the same record.

[DoomsDayD]

AHHHH there is adam to clear things up. So we got the 11th and 20th picks for the draft.

[Waffle]

Unless the Rams or Vikings go to the Super Bowl, our pick from Buffalo will be 20th. The ONLY teams that are not put in order based on their record are the Super Bowl winner and loser. Every other team remains in their "segment" -- their group of teams with the same record.
Sounds good to me. Confirms what Brad Sham said on the radio as well.

[AceofSpades]

Unless the Rams or Vikings go to the Super Bowl, our pick from Buffalo will be 20th. The ONLY teams that are not put in order based on their record are the Super Bowl winner and loser. Every other team remains in their "segment" -- their group of teams with the same record.


The last 12 picks were all playoff teams in the last draft. Thats why Miami picked 2 spots ahead of us last year when we both had 10-6 records even though their strenght of schedule (the first tie-breaker) was .512 and ours was .461.


"Playoff teams fill out positions 21-32 based on the round in which they exit the playoffs." Sportsline.com (http://www.sportsline.com/nfl/draft/update)

EDIT: This is from CNNSI (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2003/football/nfl/12/29/draft.order/) - "The Super Bowl winner and loser will draft 32nd and 31st, respectively. Other playoff teams, as they are eliminated from the postseason, move to the end of their group regardless of strength-of-schedule."

And from about.com (http://football.about.com/od/nfldraft/a/nfldraftorder.htm) - *The first 20 teams are determined by record. The order of playoff teams is determined by when they are eliminated from post-season play"

[AdamJT13]

The last 12 picks were all playoff teams in the last draft. Thats why Miami picked 2 spots ahead of us last year when we both had 10-6 records even though their strenght of schedule (the first tie-breaker) was .512 and ours was .461.
Last year, there were no playoff teams with a worse record than a non-playoff team. Playoff teams go at the bottom of a segment (teams with the same record), but they never go outside their segment unless they make the Super Bowl.





"Playoff teams fill out positions 21-32 based on the round in which they exit the playoffs." Sportsline.com (http://www.sportsline.com/nfl/draft/update)
Sportsline.com is wrong. An 8-8 playoff team that doesn't make the Super Bowl would draft before a 9-7 non-playoff team, or even a 10-6 non-playoff team, if there were any.

[Dale]

In 1999, Seattle had our draft pick from the Galloway trade at No. 19. The Seahawks, despite the Cowboys going 8-8 that season and making the playoffs, drafted one spot ahead of the Carolina Panthers, who did not make the playoffs.

[AceofSpades]

In 1999, Seattle had our draft pick from the Galloway trade at No. 19. The Seahawks, despite the Cowboys going 8-8 that season and making the playoffs, drafted one spot ahead of the Carolina Panthers, who did not make the playoffs.
Didn't Carolina get that pick from the Dolphins?

[Dale]

Didn't Carolina get that pick from the Dolphins?

Ehh...you're right. There was a trade involved.

[Q_the_man]

Right on Ace, We get # 18 regardless. Minn and the Rams are in the Playoffs, why are yall trying to cheat ur own team.... 18 AND 11. PERIOD

[AdamJT13]

Right on Ace, We get # 18 regardless. Minn and the Rams are in the Playoffs, why are yall trying to cheat ur own team.... 18 AND 11. PERIOD
Nobody is trying to "cheat" the Cowboys. The simple fact is, we'll draft 20th unless Minnesota or St. Louis makes the Super Bowl. Teams DO NOT drop out of their segment (all teams with the same record) unless they make the Super Bowl. Simply making the playoffs DOES NOT bump an 8-8 team below a 9-7 non-playoff team in the draft.

For reference, check the 2000 draft. Dallas and Detroit made the playoffs in the NFC at 8-8. Kansas City missed the AFC playoffs at 9-7. But Kansas City's draft pick was still after Dallas' pick and Detroit's pick. Dallas drafted 19th (Seattle had our first-rounder), Detroit drafted 20th and Kansas City drafted 21st.

[Razz]

Unless the Rams or Vikings go to the Super Bowl, our pick from Buffalo will be 20th. The ONLY teams that are not put in order based on their record are the Super Bowl winner and loser. Every other team remains in their "segment" -- their group of teams with the same record.
The simple fact is, we'll draft 20th unless Minnesota or St. Louis makes the Super Bowl. Teams DO NOT drop out of their segment (all teams with the same record) unless they make the Super Bowl. Simply making the playoffs DOES NOT bump an 8-8 team below a 9-7 non-playoff team in the draft.

For reference, check the 2000 draft. Dallas and Detroit made the playoffs in the NFC at 8-8. Kansas City missed the AFC playoffs at 9-7. But Kansas City's draft pick was still after Dallas' pick and Detroit's pick. Dallas drafted 19th (Seattle had our first-rounder), Detroit drafted 20th and Kansas City drafted 21st.
Adam is correct, although his explanation leaves out some info which affects Dallas pick.
He is absolutely correct on non-SB teams remaining in their 'segment' (teams with same regular season record).
BUT, the playoff teams draft at the END of their segment.
Take a look at Seattle's slot in the GBN order. Within their segment (teams that finished 9-7) they're shown as drafting last.


20X Dallas (from Buffalo**) 9-7 .512 21X Jacksonville 9-7 .527 22X Baltimore 9-7 .551 23X Seattle 9-7 .445
If Seattle hadn't made the playoffs, they'd draft 20th because of their easier SOS within their segment, and Buffalo's pick would be #21. If Buffalo had made te playoffs, they'd draft last in their segment.

Also, in later rounds, the order is rotated within the segment, with the first team in the segment in the previous round moving to the end, and the rest all moving up 1 slot.

Here's the NFL teibreaking procedure for the draft:
TIE-BREAKING PROCEDURE FOR SELECTION MEETING
If two or more clubs are tied in the selection order, the strength-of-schedule tie breaker is applied, subject to the following exceptions for playoff clubs:

1. The Super Bowl winner is last and the Super Bowl loser next-to-last.
2. Any non-Super Bowl playoff club involved in a tie shall be assigned priority within its segment below that of non-playoff clubs and in the order that the playoff clubs exited from the playoffs. Thus, within a tied segment a playoff club that loses in the Wild-Card game will have priority over a playoff club that loses in the Divisional playoff game, which in turn will have priority over a club that loses in the Conference Championship game. If two tied clubs exited the playoffs in the same round, the tie is broken by strength of schedule.

If any ties cannot be broken by strength of schedule, the divisional or conference tie breakers, whichever are applicable, are applied. Any ties that still exist are broken by a coin flip.

[jazzcat22]

Dallas would select 18th due to Minnesota and St. Louis making the playoffs.

When the Rams and Vikings get eliminated from the playoffs, they would move back to the top 20, sliding Buffalo down.

[jazzcat22]

GBN knows this stuff cold. Why would whatever happens to Minn and StL in the playoffs affect the draft position of Buffalo, Jax and Baltimore who didn't make the playoffs if that were the case.

If you look back at what Hos posted, the issue is that the draft will go off roughly as listed. The major exception being possible re-slotting for the SB teams who pick 31 and 32. Thus, the only way our pick changes from 20th is if Minn or St. Louis advance to the SB in which case we will pick 19th.

True. I've been trying to say this for the past few weeks.