Avatar will become the #2 grossing movie all time (worldwide)

[theogt]

It's #4 right now and will likely end up #2 all time, behind of course Titanic, another James Cameron movie.

Whether you like either movie or not, that's a pretty amazing feat James Cameron, I think. The guy has the Midas touch.

This probably didn't deserve its own thread, but I just couldn't believe it had already reached $1 billion in three weeks.

[Rampage]

I thought the movie was cool looking but sucked.

[ChldsPlay]

I thought the movie was cool looking but sucked.

Agreed (though I'm not sure I'd go as far as to say it sucked).

And I'm not sure now it'll stop at #2. Next weekend will be a major indicator without a holiday. It's on an incredible pace, and this is January, which is just about the worst month for movies there is. Titanic feasted on weak releases for 2 months after it came out in December. Plus, Avatar gets a tremendous boost (25%+ perhaps) from higher cost of 3D/Imax showings, which is the only way to see it in many theaters.

[Sam I Am]

It's #4 right now and will likely end up #2 all time, behind of course Titanic, another James Cameron movie.

Whether you like either movie or not, that's a pretty amazing feat James Cameron, I think. The guy has the Midas touch.

This probably didn't deserve its own thread, but I just couldn't believe it had already reached $1 billion in three weeks.

He wrote and directed The Terminator and Aliens too. The guy is quite talented.

I thought the movie was cool looking but sucked.
Thats your opinion and your opinion sucks. ;)

[the kid 05]

It's #4 right now and will likely end up #2 all time, behind of course Titanic, another James Cameron movie.

Whether you like either movie or not, that's a pretty amazing feat James Cameron, I think. The guy has the Midas touch.

This probably didn't deserve its own thread, but I just couldn't believe it had already reached $1 billion in three weeks.

Didn't the Dark Knight pass titanic?

edit: never mind i was way wrong lol

http://www.imdb.com/boxoffice/alltimegross?region=world-wide

[CowboyWay]

Didn't Cameron do Aquaman too?

[Sam I Am]

Didn't Cameron do Aquaman too?

Nah, that was this guy! :laugh2:

http://celebrity-pics.movieeye.com/celebrity_pictures/Adrian_Grenier_27951.jpg

[theogt]

Nah, that was this guy! :laugh2:

http://celebrity-pics.movieeye.com/celebrity_pictures/Adrian_Grenier_27951.jpgCameron was the director in those episodes.

[baj1dallas]

I thought it was great on IMAX. Who needs great character development or a convoluted plot when there are things blowing up every 5 seconds? Best movie I've seen in the theater in years. Perhaps the only good movie I've seen in the theater in years. Have no intention of ever watching it again however.

[jimmy40]

What's #1 in ticket sales instead on money?

[trickblue]

Saw it today... very stylish but over rated...

It's basically "Dances With Wolves" using CGI... seriously...

Don't get me wrong, it was good, just not one of the greats of all times...

[Mavs Man]

Yes, I've definitely been keeping an eye on it and it is gobbling up the foreign box office like it's Thanksgiving. It should be #2 all-time worldwide by next weekend and over $500 million domestic by the time the theater run is through. We'll see how it does domestically now that the holidays are through, but after the Oscar season (it will get a bunch of nominations) it could pass The Dark Knight's domestic run and sit at #2 in the North American box office.

[ChldsPlay]

What's #1 in ticket sales instead on money?

Gone with the Wind

[jimmy40]

Gone with the WindI would have never guessed that but I've never seen it either.

[Bob Sacamano]

i read yesterday that it in fact reached #1

[CliffnMesquite]

I'll wait for the Blu-Ray. :)

[Mavs Man]

This thread needs to be adjusted. At it's current hold rate week-to-week, it will be the #1 movie worldwide in 2-3 weeks, and pass Titanic domestically by mid-February. We're talking over $2 billion worldwide and maybe $700 million plus in North American by the time it is all over. The money this movie is taking in is unreal.

[theogt]

This thread needs to be adjusted. At it's current hold rate week-to-week, it will be the #1 movie worldwide in 2-3 weeks, and pass Titanic domestically by mid-February. We're talking over $2 billion worldwide and maybe $700 million plus in North American by the time it is all over. The money this movie is taking in is unreal.I can't believe it made 42.8 million in its 5th weekend.

By comparison, TDK may about 15 million in its 5th weekend.

Bizarre.

[Mavs Man]

I can't believe it made 42.8 million in its 5th weekend.

By comparison, TDK may about 15 million in its 5th weekend.

Bizarre.

It's nuts. Ever since the opening weekend it has been catching up with TDK in fastest to $200M, $300M, $400M, etc. When you look at the all-time 1st, 2nd, 3rd... weekends domestically, the list looks like this:

The Dark Knight, Avatar, Avatar, Avatar, Avatar, Titanic, Titanic, Titanic, ...

I have to hand it to him. Apparently James Cameron really is king of the world.

[Sam I Am]

I can't believe it made 42.8 million in its 5th weekend.

By comparison, TDK may about 15 million in its 5th weekend.

Bizarre.

IMO, Avatar is a better movie than TDK. While I thought TDK was good, I thought 90% of it's overblown hype was the fact that Heath Ledger had died.

[Hoofbite]

Still havent seen it.

[Maikeru-sama]

Bizzare indeed.

Proof that all you need is Marketing, Special Effects and blow a ton of things up and people will flock to see it.

As far as a plot and acting, Avatar isn't in The Dark Knight's league.

None of the actors in Avatar will win an Oscar.

[TheCount]

Saw it today... very stylish but over rated...

It's basically "Dances With Wolves" using CGI... seriously...

Don't get me wrong, it was good, just not one of the greats of all times...

I don't think anyone is claiming it was one of the all time greats, it's a good movie with all time great special effects. I don't think I would have enjoyed it nearly as much if not for the 3D and the great effects.

Bizzare indeed.

Proof that all you need is Marketing, Special Effects and blow a ton of things up and people will flock to see it.

As far as a plot and acting, Avatar isn't in The Dark Knight's league.

None of the actors in Avatar will win an Oscar.

Dark Knight has its flaws as well. The Joker and Two Face makes Batman seem comical in that movie because they are so earthy and real while Batman is a dude running around in a plastic suit using a fake voice.

[Sam I Am]

Bizzare indeed.

Proof that all you need is Marketing, Special Effects and blow a ton of things up and people will flock to see it.

As far as a plot and acting, Avatar isn't in The Dark Knight's league.

None of the actors in Avatar will win an Oscar.

Yeah, Christian Bale as Batman was a quality job. Every single actor in Avatar was 2x better than Bale's acting job as Batman in TDK. :rolleyes:

He was far and away the WORST Batman I've ever seen. He wasn't just bad. He straight up sucked. When he would talk in his "low" voice, I wanted to reach into the screen and physically choke him.

[TheCount]

Yeah, Christian Bale as Batman was a quality job. Every single actor in Avatar was 2x better than Bale's acting job as Batman in TDK. :rolleyes:

He was far and away the WORST Batman I've ever seen. He wasn't just bad. He straight up sucked. When he would talk in his "low" voice, I wanted to reach into the screen and physically choke him.

That's part of my point. I don't even think he was that bad. It's just ridiculous that Two face has bones in his face showing and scars, Joker is slamming peoples heads into pencils and explaining some twisted story for the scars on his face, and then you have Batman on a yacht and plodding around in a rubber suit. He was set up to fail.

I thought Bale was better in the first movie, basically until he put the costume on.

[Maikeru-sama]

Avatar was the 3 Star Wars Prequels with just better Special Effects.

No interesting characters and an extremely medicore plot.

The Dark Knight was extremely entertaining and Heath Ledger did the unthinkable and played the Joker better then Jack Nicholson did.

But hey, Avatar can help solve vision problems :rolleyes:

http://digg.com/d31G1v3

[Sam I Am]

Avatar was the 3 Star Wars Prequels with just better Special Effects.

No interesting characters and an extremely medicore plot.

The Dark Knight was extremely entertaining and Heath Ledger did the unthinkable and played the Joker better then Jack Nicholson did.

But hey, Avatar can help solve vision problems :rolleyes:

http://digg.com/d31G1v3

Are you trying to become the next DaBoys4Life? Ignore lists are waiting.

[theogt]

IMO, Avatar is a better movie than TDK. While I thought TDK was good, I thought 90% of it's overblown hype was the fact that Heath Ledger had died.You really couldn't be more wrong.

[Romo 2 Austin]

it is already the 2nd highest of all time, may beat the Titanic.


On the Dark Knight: I actually was bored by that movie. Not trying to insult anyone.

[Sam I Am]

You really couldn't be more wrong.

Opinions aren't wrong, they're just different. I just didn't find TDK as good as everyone else seem to think it was. Of course, I thought Iron Man sucked *** and some how it was this *big movie* too. /shrug

[Maikeru-sama]

Are you trying to become the next DaBoys4Life? Ignore lists are waiting.

Put me on your ignore list all you wont.

I really could care less.

[Sam I Am]

Put me on your ignore list all you wont.

I really could care less.

Yes, I will! :laugh2:

[burmafrd]

You know what they say about opinions.....

[Cover 2]

Yes, I will! :laugh2:
You're going to put someone on ignore because they disagree with you about a movie? :laugh2:

[Sam I Am]

You're going to put someone on ignore because they disagree with you about a movie? :laugh2:

No. To assume is always a mistake. You should take more care in NOT doing that. :)

[bbgun]

So when this movie goes to DVD, will it come with a pair of 3-D glasses? Or can you only get that effect in a conventional theater?

[mldardy]

So when this movie goes to DVD, will it come with a pair of 3-D glasses? Or can you only get that effect in a conventional theater?
There will be a "regular" Blu-Ray and then Cameron will come out with a 3-D edition once the 3-D players and TV's become available this year.

http://www.blu-ray.com/news/?id=3932

[ChldsPlay]

There will be a "regular" Blu-Ray and then Cameron will come out with a 3-D edition once the 3-D players and TV's become available this year.

http://www.blu-ray.com/news/?id=3932

Hmm, there's no reason not to have the 3D for the initial release. Especially if it's 6 months down the line as there will be TVs/players available. Also, since it's required that the movie play in 2D as well, nobody could complain about not being able to watch it because they don't have the right equipment.

The 3D wasn't that great anyway. It was barely better than the 2D experience, and too many times things just didn't look right because of it (usually whenever there were any particles or something small floating around).

[ScipioCowboy]

Opinions aren't wrong, they're just different. I just didn't find TDK as good as everyone else seem to think it was. Of course, I thought Iron Man sucked *** and some how it was this *big movie* too. /shrug

Apparently, however, they're ignore-worthy offenses.

[theogt]

Opinions aren't wrong, they're just different. I just didn't find TDK as good as everyone else seem to think it was. Of course, I thought Iron Man sucked *** and some how it was this *big movie* too. /shrugThis is the BS that public schools feed children to make themselves feel warm and fuzzy. We're all special. All opinions are valued.

Bull. ****. Some opinions are patently stupid. And your opinion in this regard fits the bill.

[Faerluna]

http://failblog.files.wordpress.com/2010/01/epic-fail-avatar-plot-fail.jpg

[Mavs Man]

http://failblog.files.wordpress.com/2010/01/epic-fail-avatar-plot-fail.jpg

Thanks for posting that. I saw it last week and :laugh2:.

[trickblue]

http://failblog.files.wordpress.com/2010/01/epic-fail-avatar-plot-fail.jpg

:muttley:

[Sam I Am]

Apparently, however, they're ignore-worthy offenses.No, the ignore was based on repeating the same **** 400 times when nobody ask his opinion the last 399 times. :rolleyes: Some people can't figure **** out.

This is the BS that public schools feed children to make themselves feel warm and fuzzy. We're all special. All opinions are valued.

Bull. ****. Some opinions are patently stupid. And your opinion in this regard fits the bill.

No, that would just make you the definition of ignorant. You should look up the definition of opinion. (which you throughly proved you do not know) While you're at it, maybe you'll want to look up the definition of ignorant. Maybe you will see a picture of yourself.

[Sam I Am]

http://failblog.files.wordpress.com/2010/01/epic-fail-avatar-plot-fail.jpg

:laugh2:

[TheCount]

http://failblog.files.wordpress.com/2010/01/epic-fail-avatar-plot-fail.jpg

lol, that was the first thing I said to my friend after I saw Avatar, it's basically Pocahontas and he said Dances With Wolves. There's no doubt the story was simple, tried and tested, but therein lies the conundrum.

If you enjoyed the story of Pocahontas or Dances With Wolves, it's tough to say that Avatar has a bad plot. It's just a played out one.

[Maikeru-sama]

So now I have to get permission before I can offer my opinion?

[Maikeru-sama]

This is the BS that public schools feed children to make themselves feel warm and fuzzy. We're all special. All opinions are valued.

Bull. ****. Some opinions are patently stupid. And your opinion in this regard fits the bill.

:laugh2:

[ajk23az]

lol, that was the first thing I said to my friend after I saw Avatar, it's basically Pocahontas and he said Dances With Wolves. There's no doubt the story was simple, tried and tested, but therein lies the conundrum.

If you enjoyed the story of Pocahontas or Dances With Wolves, it's tough to say that Avatar has a bad plot. It's just a played out one.

In Cameron's defense, it was said he wrote the script 15 +/- years ago but waited to produce it until a lot more theaters actually had 3D in them so it could be displayed in a lot more places. So the script is actually 15 years old and thus why everyone thinks it sucks and has been done over and over.

[BraveHeartFan]

haven't seen it and probably won't, it just doesn't look interesting to me, but my wife and mother-in-law saw it and they both loved it. Said it was a really great movie.

Congrats to Cameron on producing a couple movies that pulled in that much cash. That's amazing.

[Sam I Am]

So now I have to get permission before I can offer my opinion?

No, you just flat out aren't allowed! :laugh2:

[ChldsPlay]

In Cameron's defense, it was said he wrote the script 15 +/- years ago but waited to produce it until a lot more theaters actually had 3D in them so it could be displayed in a lot more places. So the script is actually 15 years old and thus why everyone thinks it sucks and has been done over and over.

So he wrote it while the other movies were more fresh in his memory....got it.

And I can't believe waiting for 3D is the reason to wait for it. CGI sure, because it couldn't be done 15 years ago. Nothing in the movie requires 3D though, and it doesn't benefit all that much from it.

[ajk23az]

So he wrote it while the other movies were more fresh in his memory....got it.

And I can't believe waiting for 3D is the reason to wait for it. CGI sure, because it couldn't be done 15 years ago. Nothing in the movie requires 3D though, and it doesn't benefit all that much from it.

How much do you wanna bet that most of the movies income has come from 3D theaters and not regular ones? That right there tells why he waited for more 3D theaters to open.

[Sam I Am]

How much do you wanna bet that most of the movies income has come from 3D theaters and not regular ones? That right there tells why he waited for more 3D theaters to open.

I'm not a betting man, but if I was I would take that bet in a second. Reason? There are thousands more regular theaters than there are 3D ones. Sheer volume of the others would far out produce the 3D theaters even at the $3-$4 more charged at the 3D ones.

[rantanamo]

Avatar will become #1 all-time. Despite an average opening weekend for a blockbuster, it has continued to gain on Titanic and The Dark Knight every week. The Dark Knight was the fastest movie to every total up to $450 million, but Avatar's steady gains made it the fastest to $500 million by several days, and will easily be the fastest to $600 million at its current drops. Keep in mind it took Titanic nearly a year to reach its total. Not to mention it was pre-dvd, which are released much earlier. Avatar will reach that total in a little over 2 months. Reading some box office sites, Avatar could possibly extend the record to over $800 million and over $2.3 billion worldwide based on the drops each week. In other words, believe it or not, Avatar still has a lot of money to make.


Domestic

1 Titanic (http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=titanic.htm) Par. (http://www.boxofficemojo.com/studio/chart/?studio=paramount.htm) $600,788,188 1997
2 The Dark Knight (http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=darkknight.htm) WB (http://www.boxofficemojo.com/studio/chart/?studio=warnerbros.htm) $533,345,358 2008
3 Avatar (http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=avatar.htm) Fox (http://www.boxofficemojo.com/studio/chart/?studio=fox.htm) $509,059,398 2009

World-Wide

1 Titanic (http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=titanic.htm) Par. $1,842.9 $600.8 32.6% $1,242.1 67.4% 1997
2 Avatar (http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=avatar.htm) Fox $1,662.4 $509.1 30.6% $1,153.4 69.4% 2009
3 The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King (http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=returnoftheking.htm) NL $1,119.1 $377.0 33.7% $742.1 66.3% 2003

Its crazy how domestically loaded The Dark Knight was compared to other big movies. Just like Spider-man its a very American franchise. Avatar is definitely a world-wide phenomena

[ChldsPlay]

I'm not a betting man, but if I was I would take that bet in a second. Reason? There are thousands more regular theaters than there are 3D ones. Sheer volume of the others would far out produce the 3D theaters even at the $3-$4 more charged at the 3D ones.

Actually, the reason it has made so much money is because of 3D. I believe it's around 75% has been from 3D viewings. If not for 3D, you could knock the total amount down 25-30%.

But still, Cameron wouldn't have had a clue way back when that 3D would make a comeback and be in theaters at an extra cost. I'm not even sure how they divide the extra cost for 3D. It probably goes more to the theater since they have to get the equipment for it.

[Mavs Man]

After this weekend's box office count, Avatar has zoomed past $550 million domestic and into #2 all-time in North America. At $553 million, Avatar is now only $47 million away from surpassing Titanic as the #1 North American box office champion. If its current week-to-week holds continue, I'm guessing Avatar picks up another $10-12 million Monday to Thursday, and then $25-30 million over the weekend. After that, it could pass Titanic by the following Friday, or later that weekend at the latest.

Even more impressive, Avatar is now only $6 million behind Titanic for the worldwide box office mark. $6 million! That record should fall sometime tomorrow evening. It's foreign box office take has completely obliterated Titanic's.

[Romo 2 Austin]

After this weekend's box office count, Avatar has zoomed past $550 million domestic and into #2 all-time in North America. At $553 million, Avatar is now only $47 million away from surpassing Titanic as the #1 North American box office champion. If its current week-to-week holds continue, I'm guessing Avatar picks up another $10-12 million Monday to Thursday, and then $25-30 million over the weekend. After that, it could pass Titanic by the following Friday, or later that weekend at the latest.

Even more impressive, Avatar is now only $6 million behind Titanic for the worldwide box office mark. $6 million! That record should fall sometime tomorrow evening. It's foreign box office take has completely obliterated Titanic's.
Its also charging the double price...
Didn't it sell only 55% of the seats of Titanic thus far?

[ChldsPlay]

Its also charging the double price...
Didn't it sell only 55% of the seats of Titanic thus far?

Not sure about the percentage, but it certainly isn't anywhere close to Titanic as far as attendance. It's all about the cost of 3D & IMAX.

When compared to Gone with the Wind, it's had about 1/3 the attendance.

[vta]

Not sure about the percentage, but it certainly isn't anywhere close to Titanic as far as attendance. It's all about the cost of 3D & IMAX.

When compared to Gone with the Wind, it's had about 1/3 the attendance.

This is what I always wondered about when they start with the highest grossing bit. Is it balanced based on the cost difference from then to now? ***** in the seats say's more than anything if not.

[ChldsPlay]

This is what I always wondered about when they start with the highest grossing bit. Is it balanced based on the cost difference from then to now? ***** in the seats say's more than anything if not.

Boxofficemojo.com lets you see where they rank, adjusted for inflation. It even lets you see how they'd rank based on any year, so you could see what Avatar would have brought in if it was released in 1930.

Avatar is I believe 26th adjusted for inflation, Titanic is number 6 (GwtW is #1, Star Wars is #2).

[vta]

Boxofficemojo.com lets you see where they rank, adjusted for inflation. It even lets you see how they'd rank based on any year, so you could see what Avatar would have brought in if it was released in 1930.

Avatar is I believe 26th adjusted for inflation, Titanic is number 6 (GwtW is #1, Star Wars is #2).

Interesting website. Thanks.

[theogt]

Its also charging the double price...
Didn't it sell only 55% of the seats of Titanic thus far?Titanic also didn't have to compete with giant HD flat-screens in almost every household, with Netflix, Blockbuster, OnDemand, etc.

The real comparison shouldn't be inflation adjusted. It should be value over average. I doubt there's any site that does that.

[rantanamo]

There are some bad facts in this thread. Its already been calculated that the actual dollar affect of 3D has been about 10%. Avatar will likely beat Titanic based on that as well.

Not to mention Titanic was out for like a year, videos weren't released as quickly as they are, pirating movies was pretty much non-existent.

There's a reason adjusted is rarely mentioned, and that's because its not a good comparison point. Older movies like Gone With the Wind not only faced basically no entertainment competition, but faced very little box office competition, and like Star Wars and E.T. Enjoyed at least 3 releases. Gone With the Wind had 6 theatrical runs at times when there was NO home video, meaning that was the only way to see them. You can download Avatar from the bootleg circuit right now. Not to mention they didn't have to deal with such expensive tickets.

I know many want to dismiss this boxoffice run by Avatar, but you can't. This has happened in less than 2 months. Remember, this movie just came out December 19th.

[ChldsPlay]

There are some bad facts in this thread. Its already been calculated that the actual dollar affect of 3D has been about 10%. Avatar will likely beat Titanic based on that as well.



Where did you get that number? I've seen several reports that over 70% of the tickets sold for Avatar were for 3D or IMAX viewings. When you figure that the average additional charge for 3D is between $3-5 and IMAX is slightly higher than that then you're looking at a significant boost in grosses. Easily more than 10%.

[theogt]

Where did you get that number? I've seen several reports that over 70% of the tickets sold for Avatar were for 3D or IMAX viewings. When you figure that the average additional charge for 3D is between $3-5 and IMAX is slightly higher than that then you're looking at a significant boost in grosses. Easily more than 10%.If 3D ticket sales account for 75% of ticket sales, and 3D tickets are 40% more than regular tickets, then the additional cost of 3D ticket sales accounts for about 20% of the cash total.

[Mavs Man]

Titanic also didn't have to compete with giant HD flat-screens in almost every household, with Netflix, Blockbuster, OnDemand, etc.

The real comparison shouldn't be inflation adjusted. It should be value over average. I doubt there's any site that does that.

+1

"Inflation adjusted" means all things being equal, an earlier year dollar amount would equal X amount today. But the Hollywood box office model has changed CONSIDERABLY in the past 20-30 years, and even more so if you go all the way back to 1939 and GWTW.

Titanic didn't have Netflix, DVDs, redbox, substantial internet movie piracy, or video rentals available 4-6 months after theater release. Also, it was in wide release in theaters for nearly a year (in limited release, over a year) compared to six months today, and that's only for the big boys who actually make money.

E.T., Star Wars and Jaws did not have to compete with 300 plus cable/statellite TV stations, video games or video rental stores.

Gone with the Wind did not even have to compete with TV. Main competition: radio or live stage productions.

The way I see this argument is similar to comparing sports teams from different eras - you can't do it. It's not apples to apples, so the best you can do is compare teams to teams from the same era and how much they dominated the competition.

And looking at it that way, Avatar is definitely in the conversation of best box office runs of all-time, just over a month into it. As far as major competition this decade, The Dark Knight had an amazing theater release in 2008. Well, Avatar pistol whipped that movie into submission in less than a month, so there you go.

[magwhump]

I still haven't seen it.
Been wanting to, but life always seems to get in the way.:mad:

[rantanamo]

If 3D ticket sales account for 75% of ticket sales, and 3D tickets are 40% more than regular tickets, then the additional cost of 3D ticket sales accounts for about 20% of the cash total.


Got the number just reading the boards(looking again its something like 13%, where everyone really goes crazy over the numbers. I think some don't realize that IMAX theaters are the least numerous theaters and have the highest prices. Most showings were in the IMAX light(more theaters than IMAX but still few compared to regular theaters) or the vast majority in regular theaters using RealD 3D, which in some theaters is only $1 more than normal prices. That's why its not 20% but much less. Amazing still considering people are willing to pay more in such big numbers.

[theogt]

Got the number just reading the boards(looking again its something like 13%, where everyone really goes crazy over the numbers. I think some don't realize that IMAX theaters are the least numerous theaters and have the highest prices. Most showings were in the IMAX light(more theaters than IMAX but still few compared to regular theaters) or the vast majority in regular theaters using RealD 3D, which in some theaters is only $1 more than normal prices. That's why its not 20% but much less. Amazing still considering people are willing to pay more in such big numbers.What board?

My numbers didn't take into account IMAX at all. The number of 3D ticket purchases may be less than 75%, I have no idea. That does seem to be the general consensus from what I can tell via google.

[rantanamo]

What board?

My numbers didn't take into account IMAX at all. The number of 3D ticket purchases may be less than 75%, I have no idea. That does seem to be the general consensus from what I can tell via google.

The "3D premium" for Avatar tickets is far overrated. There is a limited number of showing in full IMAX 3D and even LieMax. The vast majority are seeing it in RealD 3D or in 2D, both are usually at normal ticket price. Thus there is a lot of money from 3D, but not as much as some articles make it seem. You'd think all tickets for Avatar are $14-$16 dollars, when those are the least numerous. There's usually only 1 or 2 full IMAX theaters in most metros if they have any.

[theogt]

The "3D premium" for Avatar tickets is far overrated. There is a limited number of showing in full IMAX 3D and even LieMax. The vast majority are seeing it in RealD 3D or in 2D, both are usually at normal ticket price. Thus there is a lot of money from 3D, but not as much as some articles make it seem. You'd think all tickets for Avatar are $14-$16 dollars, when those are the least numerous. There's usually only 1 or 2 full IMAX theaters in most metros if they have any."Normal 3D" (i.e., not IMAX) ticket prices are a good bit higher than 2D prices. And according to everything I've seen the vast majority of ticket sales have been in "normal 3D."

You're right that IMAX doesn't account for much of the ticket sales. But your run of the mill 3D ticket sales are high and do account for more of the ticket sales.

[the kid 05]

"Normal 3D" (i.e., not IMAX) ticket prices are a good bit higher than 2D prices. And according to everything I've seen the vast majority of ticket sales have been in "normal 3D."

You're right that IMAX doesn't account for much of the ticket sales. But your run of the mill 3D ticket sales are high and do account for more of the ticket sales.

our 3d prices at the theater i work for is a 2 dollar up charge only cause the projectors used cost a nice shiny penny

[Mavs Man]

Avatar will break the last all-time record tonight by passing Titanic's $600 M domestic gross. $700 M in the states is still possible, and probably $200-300 M extra worldwide to push it to $2.3 M or so once it is all said and done, about 30% higher than Titanic's final worldwide tally.

[ChldsPlay]

our 3d prices at the theater i work for is a 2 dollar up charge only cause the projectors used cost a nice shiny penny

All the theaters here (KC area) have a $3 increase, which depending on when you go is a 30-60% increase in price.

2D - regular price accounts for less than 30% of sales according to the last numbers I saw.

[the kid 05]

All the theaters here (KC area) have a $3 increase, which depending on when you go is a 30-60% increase in price.

2D - regular price accounts for less than 30% of sales according to the last numbers I saw.

before 6, tickets are 5.50, 7.50 for 3d

after 6 adults are 8, 3d 10, kids/seniors/students/military 5.50

[rantanamo]

Many of the sites are going away from inflation and using more logical measures. They are finding that inflation really exaggerates what some movies really did. At Boxofficemojo there seems to be unanimous agreement that the true big 3 Box Office movies are Titanic, E.T. and Avatar. Through research they've found some of the older B.O. runs were greatly exaggerated. Some have even counted their initial home video sales from the 80s.

Lets not forget that Avatar is still going. Its only been in theaters for less than 2 months compared to some of these super long runs for other movies at the top of the list.

[ChldsPlay]

According to Boxofficemojo, 81% (3D - 64%, IMAX - 16%) of grosses are from 3D AND/OR IMAX, leaving less than 20% of gross coming from standard 2D theatres. The average cost of IMAX is double the average ticket price, and the average markup for 3D is between $2 and $4.

The average cost of a 2D ticket is $7.61.

I think it's safe to say close to 25% of the grosses are due to 3D/IMAX.

[theogt]

According to Boxofficemojo, 81% (3D - 64%, IMAX - 16%) of grosses are from 3D AND/OR IMAX, leaving less than 20% of gross coming from standard 2D theatres. The average cost of IMAX is double the average ticket price, and the average markup for 3D is between $2 and $4.

The average cost of a 2D ticket is $7.61.

I think it's safe to say close to 25% of the grosses are due to 3D/IMAX.Those numbers sound about right.

So the question becomes, why does that matter? Whether your product is low markup, high volume or vice versa, (or in Avatar's case, high markup high volume) the bottom line is still the bottom line.

[REDVOLUTION]

Just an FYI


Avatar has atleast 2 sequels coming.

The star cast members signed on for 3 movies total ala Toby MacGuire with Spider-Man

[the kid 05]

Just an FYI


Avatar has atleast 2 sequels coming.

The star cast members signed on for 3 movies total ala Toby MacGuire with Spider-Man

http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e390/KoRnKiD05/pocahontas2.jpg

[theogt]

Best photoshop ever.

[the kid 05]

Best photoshop ever.

done all online as well