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dcfanatic
01-20-2010, 02:00 AM
Deion doesn’t agree with Brooking (http:// .thedallascowboyshow.com/2010/01/20/deion-doesnt-agree-with-brooking/)
By (http:// .thedallascowboyshow.com/author/ /), January 20, 2010 2:36 am
Deion Sanders joined The Michael Irvin Show today to basically put Keith Brooking on blast for getting mad at the Vikings for scoring that last TD on Sunday...
Deion on Irvin Show (http://a.espnradio.com/stations/dallas/irvin/MISPOD0119a.mp3)
I didn't really care one way or the other about that last TD. The game was over and the Cowboys were whipped whether the score was 27-3 or 34-3.
I think the Vikes should have had Favre drop to a knee just so he wasn't putting himself in harms way because the Cowboys were still playing defense.
And I do agree that Wade was asking for the Vikings to keep playing by calling all of his timeouts on that drive.
As for Deion. He's a tool. We all know it and he's just self promoting as usual.
dallascowboyfanboy
01-20-2010, 02:32 AM
Jeez. Irvin and Sanders are the dumbest former NFL players/"analysts" on the air. I almost would rather someone would hire Emmitt and give him his own radio show. I would listen to his show more than these two. They were encouraged to be showboaters in Miami and Florida State. To be individuals instead of team oriented.
jswalker1981
01-20-2010, 02:57 AM
Jeez. Irvin and Sanders are the dumbest former NFL players/"analysts" on the air. I almost would rather someone would hire Emmitt and give him his own radio show. I would listen to his show more than these two. They were encouraged to be showboaters in Miami and Florida State. To be individuals instead of team oriented.
Bingo. One was "all about the U." and the other created the Deion rule at FSU.
stilltheguru
01-20-2010, 04:12 AM
Bingo. One was "all about the U." and the other created the Deion rule at FSU.
One has 3 rings. That's three more than anybody else on the team. Deion has 2 more than anybody on the team. Next
miamicowboy21
01-20-2010, 08:03 AM
I love it. That's why mike and Deion were champions they asked for no quarter and gave none. The great teams have a cuthroat, ruthless mentality. I'll say it again I have zero problem with what the Vikings did.
Doomsday101
01-20-2010, 08:06 AM
Deion doesn’t agree with Brooking (http:// .thedallascowboyshow.com/2010/01/20/deion-doesnt-agree-with-brooking/)
By (http:// .thedallascowboyshow.com/author/ /), January 20, 2010 2:36 am
Deion Sanders joined The Michael Irvin Show today to basically put Keith Brooking on blast for getting mad at the Vikings for scoring that last TD on Sunday...
Deion on Irvin Show (http://a.espnradio.com/stations/dallas/irvin/MISPOD0119a.mp3)
I didn't really care one way or the other about that last TD. The game was over and the Cowboys were whipped whether the score was 27-3 or 34-3.
I think the Vikes should have had Favre drop to a knee just so he wasn't putting himself in harms way because the Cowboys were still playing defense.
And I do agree that Wade was asking for the Vikings to keep playing by calling all of his timeouts on that drive.
As for Deion. He's a tool. We all know it and he's just self promoting as usual.
I like Deion he makes me laugh and as a player I think he was one of the best CB I have seen play this game. As for his view of the score being ran up? Well it is different when it happens to someone else I'm sure Deion would be singing a different tune had he been a part of it.
Hook'em#11
01-20-2010, 08:07 AM
I would have to say that I do agree with the fact that Deion is a blowhard turd with no memory.
Yes, Deion, you tool, you were there in 96' when Reggie White pitched a fit in Dallas about the FG's. Where else were you moron? You weren't on the Niners or Falcons. Or the deadskins or raves for that matter yet you tool.
God, am I ever so sick of this topic. It's so yesterday. LOL>
big dog cowboy
01-20-2010, 08:10 AM
As for Deion. He's a tool. We all know it and he's just self promoting as usual.
Some things never change.
elemenohpee
01-20-2010, 08:11 AM
Wade was asking for the Vikings to keep playing by calling all of his timeouts on that drive. As for Deion. He's a tool.
this about sums up how i feel on both subjects
AmericasTeam31
01-20-2010, 08:42 AM
And I do agree that Wade was asking for the Vikings to keep playing by calling all of his timeouts on that drive.
It was the drive before that one when we used our timeouts... with 6:00+ left in the game... We had no timeouts left during that drive... and they threw 3 passes and ran it 3 times... They weren't even attempting to run out the clock...
bbailey423
01-20-2010, 09:04 AM
I love it. That's why mike and Deion were champions they asked for no quarter and gave none. The great teams have a cuthroat, ruthless mentality. I'll say it again I have zero problem with what the Vikings did.
COMPLETELY agree
TheSkaven
01-20-2010, 09:07 AM
I didn't really care one way or the other about that last TD. The game was over and the Cowboys were whipped whether the score was 27-3 or 34-3.
I think the Vikes should have had Favre drop to a knee just so he wasn't putting himself in harms way because the Cowboys were still playing defense.
And I do agree that Wade was asking for the Vikings to keep playing by calling all of his timeouts on that drive.
As for Deion. He's a tool. We all know it and he's just self promoting as usual.
:hammer:
I can't add anything to what you wrote. Brilliant.
BrAinPaiNt
01-20-2010, 09:13 AM
Jeez. Irvin and Sanders are the dumbest former NFL players/"analysts" on the air. I almost would rather someone would hire Emmitt and give him his own radio show. I would listen to his show more than these two. They were encouraged to be showboaters in Miami and Florida State. To be individuals instead of team oriented.
I don't know if I could handle Emmitt on the radio without a little orphan annie decoder ring to figure out what he was talking about only to be angry that his messages were secretly promotions to get me to drink more ovaltine.
Irvin is a homer but I like listening to his shows.
I have never liked deion, thought he was a great player in his prime but otherwise never could stand him and one of the main reasons I stopped watching a certain channels pregame shows because he annoyed me to no end.
He might have been a great player, he might be a good human being as he has helped many people like noel devine, but man he is annoying to listen to him running his mouth.
BraveHeartFan
01-20-2010, 09:13 AM
It was the drive before that one when we used our timeouts... with 6:00+ left in the game... We had no timeouts left during that drive... and they threw 3 passes and ran it 3 times... They weren't even attempting to run out the clock...
This is the part I never agree with when people talk about this game. For some reason everyone seems to remember us calling our timeouts on that drive and I could have sworn, as you pointed out here, that we used up our timeouts on the series before that when there was over 6 minutes left in the game (Not that they really needed to be used even then to be quite honest).
It's not like they were calling time outs when the Vikings were clearly trying to score again at the end there.
Like I've said before that's just not something I'm about. I don't believe in running up the score. I don't think it shows how awesome you are, how tough you are, how cut throat or bad *** you are. It shows how pathetic you are, IMO.
But, as I've also said, when you're the team up and winning you've got the right to do whatever the heck you want to do. If you want to run it up then you run it up. That's your deal you go out there and do it. It's just not what I'm about and not how I'd allow my team to act.
GimmeTheBall!
01-20-2010, 12:34 PM
I don't think it is time well spent for two NFL legends to spend time criticizing a journeyman, over-the-hill linebacker who will never git a Super Bowl ring.
Maikeru-sama
01-20-2010, 12:43 PM
Heard Primetime on the radio while making the drive home for lunch.
Always very entertaining when Michael Irvin and Deion Sanders get together.
I agree with both of their thoughts regarding individuals whining about the score being ran up on the Cowboys.
However, both criticized Tony Romo for not looking downfield deep into the ball game, which could be true but when you have no time to throw the ball most of the time, it is easy to get rattled.
Jeez. Irvin and Sanders are the dumbest former NFL players/"analysts" on the air. I almost would rather someone would hire Emmitt and give him his own radio show. I would listen to his show more than these two. They were encouraged to be showboaters in Miami and Florida State. To be individuals instead of team oriented.
Lets not get carried away with Emmitt. I would understand if you said Woody or Moose.
Chocolate Lab
01-20-2010, 12:58 PM
I'm sure Keith is relieved.
craig71
01-20-2010, 01:03 PM
Dallas was whipped in every facet of the game.I think Brooking should have just took the whipping like a man instead of crying like a little girl.Sure is funny how Brooking didn't have a problem taunting the Falcons but now has a problem with the Vikes scoring a garbage time TD to finish the game.Some people can say that it's bad sportsmanship,maybe it is.But the thing about it is that sportsmanship pretty much gets thrown out the window once you get past the high school level.In the college ranks you have teams running up the score to enhance their BCS ranking.At the pro level I think once the playoffs start any forms of mercy are thrown out the window.When the Vikes scored that last TD they sent a clear message to this team that it wasn't good enough to do a damn thing about it.It also sent a message to the Saints that they intend to play for all 60 minutes and that the Saints better be ready.If this team wants to do something about being embarassed in Minnesota the GM/Scouting Dept. will do a good job in bringing in some additional talent,the current roster will use that TD as a motivational tool to work hard this off-season and the staff will get the memo that nice guys don't always finish first and you better get on the ball and instill a greater sense of urgency in this team.
Craig
burmafrd
01-20-2010, 01:07 PM
Sportsmanship is all about YOU not what your opponent does. No surprise fanatic does not get it.
Alexander
01-20-2010, 01:08 PM
There is not a former Cowboy player who's opinion I value less than Deion Sanders'. He has no room to talk about work ethic, integrity, desire or competitive nature. Now if he wants to talk about money grubbing and self-promotion, then his input becomes valid.
burmafrd
01-20-2010, 01:10 PM
I would not take his word that day was day and night was night.
tyke1doe
01-20-2010, 01:10 PM
Lets not get carried away with Emmitt. I would understand if you said Woody or Moose.
:laugh1:
Alexander
01-20-2010, 01:11 PM
Jeez. Irvin and Sanders are the dumbest former NFL players/"analysts" on the air. I almost would rather someone would hire Emmitt and give him his own radio show. I would listen to his show more than these two. They were encouraged to be showboaters in Miami and Florida State. To be individuals instead of team oriented.
Michael Irvin was so "individual" that the life was sucked out of this team and organization when he retired. Good call, you have your finger to the pulse, fanboy.
tyke1doe
01-20-2010, 01:11 PM
We're still whining about the Vikings running up the score? :huh: :confused:
tyke1doe
01-20-2010, 01:12 PM
Michael Irvin was so "individual" that the life was sucked out of this team and organization when he retired. Good call, you have your finger to the pulse, fanboy.
That's what I was thinking. Irvin was the ultimate team player. Who says you can't be an individual and yet part of a team?
Alexander
01-20-2010, 01:13 PM
We're still whining about the Vikings running up the score? :huh: :confused:
I know right?
I guess it is a way to get your mind off the stinging embarassment of getting blown out of a game when everything was on the line.
ThreeSportStar80
01-20-2010, 02:19 PM
This whole topic is overblown...
DaBoys4Life
01-20-2010, 02:38 PM
they are right don't cry about the score being run up stop them. If you can't stop them then we need to get someone who can.
Doomsday101
01-20-2010, 02:46 PM
Vikes running up the score did not change anything it does not take away the poor game we played and how we were manhandled. That does not change it from being a classless move some coaches have no problem doing it others will not do it.
Landry was a coach who would not do it and Wade has shown he will not do it either.
It takes nothing away from what took place we have problems that must be addressed but this was a classless move no matter how anyone wants to spin it.
Brad Childress knew damn well we were cooked, no time out all they needed to do it take a knee game over.
In ways they are lucky instead of fussing about it we could have cheap shotted a player like Brett and ended his season.
I know in some peoples view sportsmanship is dead maybe they are right
Good call on Brooking really being the wrong person to cry "classless" when he taunted the Falcons.
The Vikings last score was classless.
And so is the Cowboys pointing out that the Vikings showed no class. If you want to be classy and demonstrate sportsmanship you take your medicine quietly, deserved or not, and move on.
superpunk
01-20-2010, 03:02 PM
I disagree with Deion Sanders on the principle that he is Deion Sanders.
Doomsday101
01-20-2010, 03:05 PM
Good call on Brooking really being the wrong person to cry "classless" when he taunted the Falcons.
The Vikings last score was classless.
And so is the Cowboys pointing out that the Vikings showed no class. If you want to be classy and demonstrate sportsmanship you take your medicine quietly, deserved or not, and move on.
People wanted a guy with emotion you got it, Brooking was upset about what the Vikes did so what? He is not the 1st player to get upset for what he felt was rubbing our nose in it. He is not a guy who just turns the emotions on and off at the flick of a switch. We took our medicine and the season is done
DaninMS
01-20-2010, 03:10 PM
Brad Childress knew damn well we were cooked, no time out all they needed to do it take a knee game over.
Earlier on Irvin's show Galloway was on and they were talking about this. Randy was asking some of the Minnesota reporters about it and they told him on the Vikings sideline they were asking "Who called that play ?"
Irvin commented he saw something on the sideline on TV with Brett and Childress about it but nothing more was made of that. Of course later Childress said in his PC they were just being aggressive but now to me it looks like this was Brett alone.
Might have to drive up to his farm and TP his tractor. :D
Doomsday101
01-20-2010, 03:13 PM
Earlier on Irvin's show Galloway was on and they were talking about this. Randy was asking some of the Minnesota reporters about it and they told him on the Vikings sideline they were asking "Who called that play ?"
Irvin commented he saw something on the sideline on TV with Brett and Childress about it but nothing more was made of that. Of course later Childress said in his PC they were just being aggressive but now to me it looks like this was Brett alone.
Might have to drive up to his farm and TP his tractor. :D
Vikes were in a position to do it and that is what they choose. Brett said it was not him he does not beleive in running up the score and just ran the play that was sent in. Sorry I think a call like that comes from the sideline.
It is over now I hope that seed continues to grow in the back of the Cowboys heads and remember how it felt as they get back to work for next season.
dallascowboyfanboy
01-20-2010, 03:28 PM
Michael Irvin was so "individual" that the life was sucked out of this team and organization when he retired. Good call, you have your finger to the pulse, fanboy.
We still made the playoffs after Irvin retired. Emmitt was the heart and soul of the team. Irvin was the "look at me, look I caught Aikman's perfectly thrown pass that hit me in the hands and now I got to make a first down celebratory gesture." Look at me, look at me." Emmitt never did that, Novacek surely never did that either. I can't stand how many players do that first down gesture now. And yes Irvin pushed off most of the time. Otherwise he couldnt get open like Roy Williams can't.:laugh2:
Doomsday101
01-20-2010, 03:31 PM
We still made the playoffs after Irvin retired. Emmitt was the heart and soul of the team. Irvin was the "look at me, look I caught Aikman's perfectly thrown pass that hit me in the hands and now I got to make a first down celebratory gesture." Look at me, look at me." Emmitt never did that, Novacek surely never did that either. I can't stand how many players do that first down gesture now. And yes Irvin pushed off most of the time. Otherwise he couldnt get open like Roy Williams can't.:laugh2:
Irvin did a lot for this team the man worked his butt off, at training camp when guys were tiring down it was Irvin hollering at guys this is the 4th qrt trying to pick guys up. Yes he was flamboyant and yes he liked the limelight but Mike gave everything he had all the time to the Cowboys for that I thank him
craig71
01-20-2010, 03:32 PM
We still made the playoffs after Irvin retired. Emmitt was the heart and soul of the team. Irvin was the "look at me, look I caught Aikman's perfectly thrown pass that hit me in the hands and now I got to make a first down celebratory gesture." Look at me, look at me." Emmitt never did that, Novacek surely never did that either. I can't stand how many players do that first down gesture now. And yes Irvin pushed off most of the time. Otherwise he couldnt get open like Roy Williams can't.:laugh2:
What about Emmitt taking off his helmet after every TD? Didn't they make a rule where you couldn't do that anymore?
Craig
Doomsday101
01-20-2010, 03:33 PM
What about Emmitt taking off his helmet after every TD? Didn't they make a rule where you couldn't do that anymore?
Craig
He did not do it after every TD. What is the deal with attacking 2 of the greats to ever play for this team? Emmitt like Mike was a warrior they gave you everything
dallascowboyfanboy
01-20-2010, 03:34 PM
What about Emmitt taking off his helmet after every TD? Didn't they make a rule where you couldn't do that anymore?
Craig
Emmitt only did that in a few games and then the league banned that gesture making it a penalty since the league didn't like showboating and individualism. NO FUN LEAGUE.
Doomsday101
01-20-2010, 03:35 PM
Emmitt only did that in a few games and then the league banned that gesture making it a penalty since the league didn't like showboating and individualism. NO FUN LEAGUE.
Maybe the league figures with the money you are making you can buy fun on your own time. :laugh2:
craig71
01-20-2010, 03:36 PM
He did not do it after every TD. What is the deal with attacking 2 of the greats to ever play for this team? Emmitt like Mike was a warrior they gave you everything
I'm not attacking Emmitt.I'm just saying that he was not above being flamboyant.
Craig
Doomsday101
01-20-2010, 03:40 PM
I'm not attacking Emmitt.I'm just saying that he was not above being flamboyant.
Craig
None are beyond it. I don't see people getting upset with Ware or Ratliff when they do their little move after getting a sack. The game is played with allot of emotion much of that is to keep their own fire going and spark others around them.
I have a bigger problem with the guys who is acting out when your team is getting whipped. I have seen on different occasions where a player will do a little taunting to an opposing player and the opposing player points up to the score board. :laugh2:
People wanted a guy with emotion you got it, Brooking was upset about what the Vikes did so what? He is not the 1st player to get upset for what he felt was rubbing our nose in it. He is not a guy who just turns the emotions on and off at the flick of a switch. We took our medicine and the season is done
Keith's response to the Vikings classless move was equally classless. So was Brooking taunting the Falcons. And everyone in all 3 of those cases had a reason for doing what they did. What is your point?
I'm just pointing out that it works both ways. So if players want to point out the speck in someone else's eye, just be ready to have the board in their own eye pointed out.
If you want to excuse Keith because he's emotional or was upset, well I suspect that is exactly what happened with Childress as well.
If you think behavior is excused because emotions cannot be turned off & on, then that is your opinion.
For me, classy is doing the right thing regardless of what your emotions are screaming at you.
craig71
01-20-2010, 03:52 PM
None are beyond it. I don't see people getting upset with Ware or Ratliff when they do their little move after getting a sack. The game is played with allot of emotion much of that is to keep their own fire going and spark others around them.
I have a bigger problem with the guys who is acting out when your team is getting whipped. I have seen on different occasions where a player will do a little taunting to an opposing player and the opposing player points up to the score board. :laugh2:
To be honest about it sometimes the emotion of others is overrated.The crowd likes to see it but alot of the players are neutral when it comes to seeing a player getting jacked up over a big play.I think alot of it has to do with it being more of a business than a game.
Players celebrating a TD in the closing moments of a game are annoying,especially when their team still loses by 30 points.I kinda put Brooking in that category with his "cry me a river" routine in Minnesota.
Craig
Doomsday101
01-20-2010, 03:57 PM
Keith's response to the Vikings classless move was equally classless. So was Brooking taunting the Falcons. And everyone in all 3 of those cases had a reason for doing what they did. What is your point?
I'm just pointing out that it works both ways. So if players want to point out the speck in someone else's eye, just be ready to have the board in their own eye pointed out.
If you want to excuse Keith because he's emotional or was upset, well I suspect that is exactly what happened with Childress as well.
If you think behavior is excused because emotions cannot be turned off & on, then that is your opinion.
For me, classy is doing the right thing regardless of what your emotions are screaming at you.
Player will taunt back and forth not just Brooking what is different about this is it is not the players who are calling it is the head coach. Player talk smack throughout the games with each other it is just part of the game. Running up scores falls on the coach sorry if you don't get the difference. I played the game I know the trash that goes back and forth. Coaches have the final say when it comes to one of the biggest insults in sports running the game up
superonyx
01-20-2010, 04:06 PM
Dallas was whipped in every facet of the game.I think Brooking should have just took the whipping like a man instead of crying like a little girl.Sure is funny how Brooking didn't have a problem taunting the Falcons but now has a problem with the Vikes scoring a garbage time TD to finish the game.Some people can say that it's bad sportsmanship,maybe it is.But the thing about it is that sportsmanship pretty much gets thrown out the window once you get past the high school level.In the college ranks you have teams running up the score to enhance their BCS ranking.At the pro level I think once the playoffs start any forms of mercy are thrown out the window.When the Vikes scored that last TD they sent a clear message to this team that it wasn't good enough to do a damn thing about it.It also sent a message to the Saints that they intend to play for all 60 minutes and that the Saints better be ready.If this team wants to do something about being embarassed in Minnesota the GM/Scouting Dept. will do a good job in bringing in some additional talent,the current roster will use that TD as a motivational tool to work hard this off-season and the staff will get the memo that nice guys don't always finish first and you better get on the ball and instill a greater sense of urgency in this team.
Craig
Seriously? Do you even believe what you typed?
Sportsmanship is thrown out after the high school level. I wonder why this last minute TD is such a hot topic then? Maybe because it was unexpected? Maybe because people still have some expectation of class and sportsmanship?
The fact that people keep talking about this issue shows you that it is universally considered classless to run up the score in that situation. If it was so ordinary or the norm to play like that then no one would have gotten upset or cared either way.
Its amazing how many people are buying into this macho, arrogant, tough guy BS talk guys like Dion Sanders, Cris Carter, ect are making.
These guys are nothing but mouths. Dion Sanders acts like a tough guy about playing the whole 60 minutes crap and he was the first corner diving out of the way of a running back calling it a "business decision". What a selfish SOB. Its all about him.
DallasCowpoke
01-20-2010, 04:06 PM
(http:// .thedallascowboyshow.com/2010/01/20/deion-doesnt-agree-with-brooking/)We all know it and he's just self promoting as usual.
Interesting concept from a guy who has his own internet "radio" show.
DaBoys4Life
01-20-2010, 04:12 PM
Interesting concept from a guy who has his own internet "radio" show.
LoL you hating?
DallasCowpoke
01-20-2010, 04:14 PM
Seriously? Do you even believe what you typed?
Sportsmanship is thrown out after the high school level. I wonder why this last minute TD is such a hot topic then? Maybe because it was unexpected? Maybe because people still have some expectation of class and sportsmanship?
The fact that people keep talking about this issue shows you that it is universally considered classless to run up the score in that situation. If it was so ordinary or the norm to play like that then no one would have gotten upset or cared either way.
Its amazing how many people are buying into this macho, arrogant, tough guy BS talk guys like Dion Sanders, Cris Carter, ect are making.
These guys are nothing but mouths. Dion Sanders acts like a tough guy about playing the whole 60 minutes crap and he was the first corner diving out of the way of a running back calling it a "business decision". What a selfish SOB. Its all about him.
What's "amazing", is that all the "people" you reference as being "universally" upset, are actually just average Joes on forum boards. Yet the individuals you summarily dismiss who've actually PLAYED the game, say just the opposite. Weird concept.
craig71
01-20-2010, 04:14 PM
Seriously? Do you even believe what you typed?
Sportsmanship is thrown out after the high school level. I wonder why this last minute TD is such a hot topic then? Maybe because it was unexpected? Maybe because people still have some expectation of class and sportsmanship?
The fact that people keep talking about this issue shows you that it is universally considered classless to run up the score in that situation. If it was so ordinary or the norm to play like that then no one would have gotten upset or cared either way.
Its amazing how many people are buying into this macho, arrogant, tough guy BS talk guys like Dion Sanders, Cris Carter, ect are making.
These guys are nothing but mouths. Dion Sanders acts like a tough guy about playing the whole 60 minutes crap and he was the first corner diving out of the way of a running back calling it a "business decision". What a selfish SOB. Its all about him.
You have your opinion and I have mine.
Craig
Vintage
01-20-2010, 04:15 PM
LOL at Brooking complaining about the sportsmanship of the Vikings for scoring at the end...
DallasCowpoke
01-20-2010, 04:17 PM
LoL you hating?
Hardly. I just find it funny that he tears down a guy who's got a few skins on the wall, and is actually getting $$$ to voice his opinion.
1rIghtsaidFred
01-20-2010, 04:19 PM
I guess since Jimmy Johnson and Troy Aikman were fine with the call, that makes them "complete idiots" too.
Vtwin
01-20-2010, 04:24 PM
Two questions.
1) You do realize that people can be of the opinion that running up the score is unsportsmanlike and not be "whining" about it at the same time. right?
2) What is the origin of the commonly and long used phrase, "running up the score"?
1rIghtsaidFred
01-20-2010, 04:31 PM
Two questions.
1) You do realize that people can be of the opinion that running up the score is unsportsmanlike and not be "whining" about it at the same time. right?
2) What is the origin of the commonly and long used phrase, "running up the score"?
I. This is funny. Good ol'Wikipedia. Interesting, the last line...
In North American sport (http://cowboyszone.com/wiki/Sport), "running up the score" occurs when a team continues to play in such a way as to score additional points after the outcome of the game is no longer in question and the team is assured of winning. In United States and Canada, it is considered poor sportsmanship (http://cowboyszone.com/wiki/Sportsmanship) to "run up the score" in most circumstances (exceptions are listed below); sporting alternatives include pulling out most of the team's first string players, or calling plays designed to run out the clock (http://cowboyszone.com/wiki/Running_out_the_clock) (e.g., in American football (http://cowboyszone.com/wiki/American_football), kneeling, running the ball up the middle, punting on first down).
The term and concept are not common elsewhere in the world.
II. It's in the Vikings nature, check out their fight song.
Skol Vikings
Lyrics
Skol Vikings, let's win this game,
Skol Vikings, honor your name,
Go get that first down,
Then get a touchdown.
Rock 'em . . . Sock 'em
Fight! Fight! Fight! Fight!
Go Vikings, run up the score,
You'll hear us yell for more. . .
V-I-K-I-N-G-S
Skol, Vikings, let's go!
We should have seen it coming
Doomsday101
01-20-2010, 04:35 PM
I. This is funny. Good ol'Wikipedia. Interesting, the last line...
In North American sport (http://cowboyszone.com/wiki/Sport), "running up the score" occurs when a team continues to play in such a way as to score additional points after the outcome of the game is no longer in question and the team is assured of winning. In United States and Canada, it is considered poor sportsmanship (http://cowboyszone.com/wiki/Sportsmanship) to "run up the score" in most circumstances (exceptions are listed below); sporting alternatives include pulling out most of the team's first string players, or calling plays designed to run out the clock (http://cowboyszone.com/wiki/Running_out_the_clock) (e.g., in American football (http://cowboyszone.com/wiki/American_football), kneeling, running the ball up the middle, punting on first down).
The term and concept are not common elsewhere in the world.
II. It's in the Vikings nature, check out their fight song.
Skol Vikings
Lyrics
Skol Vikings, let's win this game,
Skol Vikings, honor your name,
Go get that first down,
Then get a touchdown.
Rock 'em . . . Sock 'em
Fight! Fight! Fight! Fight!
Go Vikings, run up the score,
You'll hear us yell for more. . .
V-I-K-I-N-G-S
Skol, Vikings, let's go!
We should have seen it coming
Here in Houston it is called getting Yate's. :laugh2:
For those who did not hear Yates basketball team here in Houston put a beating on Houston Lee. Yates was leading by around 80 points at half time and won by 135 points needless to say the talk shows went on about this for a while and even made the national news.
Player will taunt back and forth not just Brooking what is different about this is it is not the players who are calling it is the head coach. Player talk smack throughout the games with each other it is just part of the game. Running up scores falls on the coach sorry if you don't get the difference. I played the game I know the trash that goes back and forth. Coaches have the final say when it comes to one of the biggest insults in sports running the game up
Well if your point now is that players can be excused from emotional reactions while coaches cannot, then fine, stand on that point. Its simply your opinion. No better or worse than mine.
My point, and my opinion, is that Brooking comes across as less than classy when he evaluates the classiness or lack thereof, of others.
Doomsday101
01-20-2010, 04:50 PM
Well if your point now is that players can be excused from emotional reactions while coaches cannot, then fine, stand on that point. Its simply your opinion. No better or worse than mine.
My point, and my opinion, is that Brooking comes across as less than classy when he evaluates the classiness or lack thereof, of others.
Coaches are the handlers who control what is going on, Buddy Ryan having Cunningham fake a knee then stand up and throws a bomb vs Dallas was about as classless as it gets. HC who run up the score I think it is much different than a player who are taunting one another through out the game.
1rIghtsaidFred
01-20-2010, 04:52 PM
Well if your point now is that players can be excused from emotional reactions while coaches cannot, then fine, stand on that point. Its simply your opinion. No better or worse than mine.
My point, and my opinion, is that Brooking comes across as less than classy when he evaluates the classiness or lack thereof, of others.
Reminds me of one of my favorite quotes:
"Sometimes it's best to remain silent and thought a fool rather than to speak and remove all doubt."--unknown
Coaches are the handlers who control what is going on, Buddy Ryan having Cunningham fake a knee then stand up and throws a bomb vs Dallas was about as classless as it gets. HC who run up the score I think it is much different than a player who are taunting one another through out the game.
That move by Buddy is his legacy IMO, and a sad one at that IMO. In the same regard, I have also called Childress move classless as well. On that we agree.
I'll leave it at that.
DallasCowpoke
01-20-2010, 05:11 PM
Well if your point now is that players can be excused from emotional reactions while coaches cannot, then fine, stand on that point. Its simply your opinion. No better or worse than mine.
My point, and my opinion, is that Brooking comes across as less than classy when he evaluates the classiness or lack thereof, of others.
Brooking also has a jolly good time in his pre-game raa raa speech, especially on that last part where he exclaims, "And then when get 'em on the gound, we're gonna step on their throats!", "And then what are we gonna do... STOMP!!"
Brett said it was not him he does not beleive in running up the score and just ran the play that was sent in.
brett probably changed his mind about what he believes in after the game. he's been known to do it before....
Coaches are the handlers who control what is going on, Buddy Ryan having Cunningham fake a knee then stand up and throws a bomb vs Dallas was about as classless as it gets. HC who run up the score I think it is much different than a player who are taunting one another through out the game.
that's my thing. if you want to run up the score, do it..that's your prerogative...i wouldn't but that's just me. but it's cowardly to run up the score in a deceiving fashion. if you want to throw, line up and throw, but up that margin and running a play action is weak like buddy ryan's fake.
i wonder what the vikings would have done if the kicker was taken out on the extra point and then dallas punted right back to see if favre or any starters came back out on the field....
Remember how upset Reggie White and the Packers got in 1996 when we kicked a late FG to allow our kicker (Boniol or Cunningham) to set that 7 FG record.
The final was 21-6. I never really considered that running up the score simply because 21-6 isn't a big deal IMO. But I can understand others who feel differently and Reggie & Co certainly did.
I don't think "so a player can set a record" justifies everything either but that's just me.
Kilyin
01-20-2010, 05:29 PM
One has 3 rings. That's three more than anybody else on the team. Deion has 2 more than anybody on the team. Next
Dexter Manley has two rings. I don't think anybody is asking for his advice.
ConcordCowboy
01-20-2010, 05:34 PM
Good God...still talking about that stupid frickin TD?!
There are bigger problems to worry about.
Like the actual possibility that Phillips might still be here in three years.
Good God...still talking about that stupid frickin TD?!
There are bigger problems to worry about.
Like the actual possibility that Phillips might still be here in three years.
Ask a mod to close it down if it bothers you that much. And at the same time, start your Wade thread that you think is so urgent. :rolleyes:
Good God...still talking about that stupid frickin TD?!
There are bigger problems to worry about.
Like the actual possibility that Phillips might still be here in three years.
if it really bothers you, don't open the thread.
ConcordCowboy
01-20-2010, 05:47 PM
Ask a mod to close it down if it bothers you that much. And at the same time, start your Wade thread that you think is so urgent. :rolleyes:
No by all means keep up the whining.
ConcordCowboy
01-20-2010, 05:50 PM
if it really bothers you, don't open the thread.
I can't resist...I have to see who is STILL whining about it.
I can't resist...I have to see who is STILL whining about it.
What can be said? You've set the bar high on whining. :thumbup:
dcfanatic
01-20-2010, 06:23 PM
Interesting concept from a guy who has his own internet "radio" show.
So I self promote on the radio show? Or my blog? Or my videos? Or the audio links I provide?
And how much money does all this self promoting make me?
A million? two million? ten million?
And show us what you give out for free that takes oodles and oodles of time to produce.
We are all waiting.
dcfanatic
01-20-2010, 06:25 PM
Hardly. I just find it funny that he tears down a guy who's got a few skins on the wall, and is actually getting $$$ to voice his opinion.
BS.
You are just like the many trolls around here who love taking shots at me because at some point you didn't like my opinion on something.
Drinking haterade by the bucket fulls.
Get in line groupie #39.
:laugh1:
ConcordCowboy
01-20-2010, 06:26 PM
What can be said? You've set the bar high on whining. :thumbup:
Hardly.
Lets see what is more important to the Cowboys at this point?
Some meaningless score at the end of a game in which they got their ***'s handed to them...OR...
The Head Coach of the Cowboys?
Hmmm.
:p:
clutch88
01-20-2010, 07:06 PM
An anonymous bank teller reported that Keith Brooking was "crying" as he cashed his playoff check tuesday because the teller ran up the amount he was supposed to have recieved.
Hardly.
Lets see what is more important to the Cowboys at this point?
Some meaningless score at the end of a game in which they got their ***'s handed to them...OR...
The Head Coach of the Cowboys?
Hmmm.
:p:
Yes, this is certainly important work we are doing here. :laugh2:
But apparently what you consider most important is policing what people here should be talking about. :p:
BHendri5
01-20-2010, 09:56 PM
COMPLETELY agree
I agree as well, I also agree 100% with Mike and Deion all the time
GimmeTheBall!
01-20-2010, 09:56 PM
An anonymous bank teller reported that Keith Brooking was "crying" as he cashed his playoff check tuesday because the teller ran up the amount he was supposed to have recieved.
Ah, also haerd that upon seeing her otherwise mild mannered husband Mr. Brooking whining on the sidelines, she told the press: "Ah don't even know who he is."
Thanks, Brooky, now ever one thinks of the Cowboys as whiners who wanted a sympathy slow-down offense. They kicked your butts, Mr. Motivator! Next year you better be ready to play the big games and pray that we have a more forceful HC who will bench players like RW, rebuild the offensive line and add veteran depth to the secondary.
Then you can win and not have to thro hissy fits on the sidelines.
Ah thank that whiny baby sidelines tantrum you did has tainted the team as crybabys. They are a lot better than that and asking for mercy from the opposing offense would not be condoned by Landry, Shula, Lombardini or Dom Caperton.
I never want to back a team that would stage weakness aginst another teem and in doing so make them appear even weaker.
Fans expect teeems to play hard ever down so git used to it!
CowboysPhan
01-20-2010, 10:39 PM
Am I missing something here? Did Brooking say or do anything else after his initial reaction of yelling at the Minnesota sideline? Because if he didn't, I don't see what everyone is so shocked by. I've often seen players get mad and yell at the opponents just like he did, then they go on about their business, just like it appeared that he did. It's not like he kept up some 10 minute tirade or made an idiot out of himself all over the sideline. They pulled a move that is considered by most people to be unsportsmanlike, it made him mad (just like it did me:)) he expressed himself, and it was over. My opinion is that if the team wants to run up the score, they have every right to do that, but they also need to remember that the opponent will be storing that little tidbit up in their memories for the next time they play each other, in this case, next season. :ohboy:
dcfanatic
01-20-2010, 10:44 PM
Am I missing something here? Did Brooking say or do anything else after his initial reaction of yelling at the Minnesota sideline? Because if he didn't, I don't see what everyone is so shocked by. I've often seen players get mad and yell at the opponents just like he did, then they go on about their business, just like it appeared that he did. It's not like he kept up some 10 minute tirade or made an idiot out of himself all over the sideline. They pulled a move that is considered by most people to be unsportsmanlike, it made him mad (just like it did me:)) he expressed himself, and it was over. My opinion is that if the team wants to run up the score, they have every right to do that, but they also need to remember that the opponent will be storing that little tidbit up in their memories for the next time they play each other, in this case, next season. :ohboy:
Post game.
Locker room.
ConcordCowboy
01-20-2010, 10:49 PM
Yes, this is certainly important work we are doing here. :laugh2:
But apparently what you consider most important is policing what people here should be talking about. :p:
I don't care what you talk about...I'm just going to tell you when I think it's stupid and comes across as whining.
And this is one of those times.
CowboysPhan
01-20-2010, 11:24 PM
Post game.
Locker room.
Must've missed it. Thnx
supafly
01-20-2010, 11:36 PM
During week 17 didnt Dallas do the exact same thing to the Eagles? It was a 4th and 2 in the Eagles' territory. But the Eagles ended up sacking Romo...perhaps Brooking forgot all about that. Oh, and there was 2:35 left as opposed to 1:55.
And the score was 24-0 at the time. Sunday it was 27-3. Someone needs to remind Mr. Brooking about this. Some of the fans around here need better memories as well. Karma is a *****.
superonyx
01-21-2010, 07:37 AM
During week 17 didnt Dallas do the exact same thing to the Eagles? It was a 4th and 2 in the Eagles' territory. But the Eagles ended up sacking Romo...perhaps Brooking forgot all about that. Oh, and there was 2:35 left as opposed to 1:55.
And the score was 24-0 at the time. Sunday it was 27-3. Someone needs to remind Mr. Brooking about this. Some of the fans around here need better memories as well. Karma is a *****.
Are you even a cowboys fan? Why sound so happy about it? Sorry having the score run up on your favorite team doesnt warrant any reaction except against the fans that care enough to have it bother them. Thanks
Chocolate Lab
01-21-2010, 10:05 AM
Are you even a cowboys fan? Why sound so happy about it? Sorry having the score run up on your favorite team doesnt warrant any reaction except against the fans that care enough to have it bother them. Thanks
http://cowboyszone.com/forums/showpost.php?p=2763951&postcount=53
aikman is one of the few that knows *** he's talking about. one of the best analysts and football announcers out there... And this is coming from a Skins fan.
Ah... Now we see why he started posting so much three days ago.
Marktui
01-21-2010, 12:12 PM
I did not listen to it cause Deon is such a tool these days!! The guy is still pissed that we cut him and TO. Not to mention his boy Pacman Jones as well. The guy has a total agenda against the Cowboys.
I really don't respect anything the says, thats why I don't watch the NFLN pregame or post game show.
Marktui
01-21-2010, 12:28 PM
It was in the heat of battle, you guys forget that alot of emotions are on that field. What he said afterwards may have been over the top, but the guy and his teamates were just blown out of a playoff game.
His season is over, I for one would like to see that he took this loss hard. Give him a break, you guys never lost your composure in the heat of the battle??
EPL0c0
01-21-2010, 12:34 PM
Yeah well, Deion thought he was a rapper at one point too, so he's been wrong before.
Doomsday101
01-21-2010, 12:36 PM
It was in the heat of battle, you guys forget that alot of emotions are on that field. What he said afterwards may have been over the top, but the guy and his teamates were just blown out of a playoff game.
His season is over, I for one would like to see that he took this loss hard. Give him a break, you guys never lost your composure in the heat of the battle??
Well it is alright for fans to get upset, moan and cry but Brooking who has been a big help and an emotional leader should not be upset when the other team has just rubbed our nose in it. My how quick people will turn on a player.
Chocolate Lab
01-21-2010, 02:08 PM
Yeah well, Deion thought he was a rapper at one point too, so he's been wrong before.
KJWSm13LBh8
:lmao2:
Well it is alright for fans to get upset, moan and cry but Brooking who has been a big help and an emotional leader should not be upset when the other team has just rubbed our nose in it. My how quick people will turn on a player.
Overdramatized!
Just because I don't agree with Brooking's actions on this issue doesn't mean I've turned on him. You can still support the person without agreeing with everything they've ever said or done.
I don't care what you talk about...I'm just going to tell you when I think it's stupid and comes across as whining.
And this is one of those times.
Back at you bro, in spades. ;)
Doomsday101
01-21-2010, 02:21 PM
Overdramatized!
Just because I don't agree with Brooking's actions on this issue doesn't mean I've turned on him. You can still support the person without agreeing with everything they've ever said or done.
I said nothing about you. Where did you see me address this towards you?
superonyx
01-21-2010, 02:23 PM
KJWSm13LBh8
:lmao2:
Wow... that was terrible. I wonder how much he paid to make that video?
I actually watched the entire video.......
:lmao2: :lmao:
I said nothing about you. Where did you see me address this towards you?
You addressed it to no one in particular but your post is obviously critical of those who've criticized Brooking's response - and I'm one.
So, tell me then who this does apply to ? "fans so quick to turn on a player."
Doomsday101
01-21-2010, 02:35 PM
You addressed it to no one in particular but your post is obviously critical of those who've criticized Brooking's response - and I'm one.
So, tell me then who this does apply to ? "fans so quick to turn on a player."
You were the only one who had a different opinion? Please you think too much of yourself. I did not say 1 single thing about you. Yet you come here and ride me? I don't think so
You were the only one who had a different opinion? Please you think too much of yourself. I did not say 1 single thing about you. Yet you come here and ride me? I don't think so
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