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dcfanatic
01-28-2010, 01:57 AM
Staubach on QB段ng, Super Bowl, Too Tall Jones (http:// .thedallascowboyshow.com/2010/01/28/staubach-on-qbing-super-bowl-too-tall-jones/)
By (http:// .thedallascowboyshow.com/author/ /), January 28, 2010 2:46 am
Here's Roger Staubach on The Scott Van Pelt show from earlier today...
Roger Staubach on QB'ing, the Super Bowl and Too Tall Jones (http://app.quickblogcast.com/files/1/3/2/0/2/128698-120231/staubachonsvp_jan27.mp3)
I love hearing a Redskins fan cry about all the times Staubach tormented him by beating the Skins, lol.
I doubt the football writers take those fan votes into consideration to the point that they make a difference on someone getting in or not. Most fans that would be voting on there are only doing so for the guys who played on their favorite team.
Here's the link to go vote by the way - Hall of Fame Fan Voting (http://www2.fanschoice.com/vote.aspx)
Does Ed Jones deserve to be in the Hall of Fame?
He was a 3 time Pro Bowler and one time All Pro. Was a starter for just about all of his 13 year career and finished with 57.5 sacks. Had 19 fumble recoveries and 3 INT's as well.
I say he's a borderline Hall of Famer.
SaltwaterServr
01-28-2010, 05:32 AM
Agreed on borderline. If he were a player from another team, say Pittsburgh, and got in with those stats we'd cry foul.
HoosierCowboy
01-28-2010, 07:17 AM
Too Tall redirected about 1000 passes and freed up linebackers because he controled about 3 gaps--since he did not get sacks and dance around on the filed, he probably won't get in
MinnesotaCowboy
01-28-2010, 08:28 AM
Too Tall redirected about 1000 passes and freed up linebackers because he controled about 3 gaps--since he did not get sacks and dance around on the filed, he probably won't get in
You are absolutely right! QB's rarely threw short passes to the right! He also took a year off to try out boxing which he loved but he was just too big and clumsy (saw a couple of his fights on TV). Cannot remember if he played on special teams but I would think he would be a force on defense on a field goal situation w/today's sidewinders...............imagine a 6'9" giant in the middle of the line.............wow:D
ilovejerry
01-28-2010, 11:13 AM
Staubach on QB’ing, Super Bowl, Too Tall Jones (http:// .thedallascowboyshow.com/2010/01/28/staubach-on-qbing-super-bowl-too-tall-jones/)
By (http:// .thedallascowboyshow.com/author/ /), January 28, 2010 2:46 am
Here's Roger Staubach on The Scott Van Pelt show from earlier today...
Roger Staubach on QB'ing, the Super Bowl and Too Tall Jones (http://app.quickblogcast.com/files/1/3/2/0/2/128698-120231/staubachonsvp_jan27.mp3)
I love hearing a Redskins fan cry about all the times Staubach tormented him by beating the Skins, lol.
I doubt the football writers take those fan votes into consideration to the point that they make a difference on someone getting in or not. Most fans that would be voting on there are only doing so for the guys who played on their favorite team.
Here's the link to go vote by the way - Hall of Fame Fan Voting (http://www2.fanschoice.com/vote.aspx)
Does Ed Jones deserve to be in the Hall of Fame?
He was a 3 time Pro Bowler and one time All Pro. Was a starter for just about all of his 13 year career and finished with 57.5 sacks. Had 19 fumble recoveries and 3 INT's as well.
I say he's a borderline Hall of Famer.
I say Too tall should be in there, considering some of the others...but !
Harvey Martin is a HOF ( no doubt about it !)
Sacks 114
Games 158
Interceptions 2
4ラ Pro Bowl selection (1976, 1977, 1978, 1979)
1ラ First-team All-Pro selection (1977)
3ラ Second-team All-Pro selection (1976, 1979, 1982)
NFL 1970s All-Decade Team
NFL Defensive Player of the Year (1977)
Super Bowl XII MVP
joseephuss
01-28-2010, 11:31 AM
Agreed on borderline. If he were a player from another team, say Pittsburgh, and got in with those stats we'd cry foul.
Since much of his career was played before the NFL made sacks an official stat his 57.5 sacks does not look too impressive; however, he really had 106 sacks during his career.
Those 106 sacks is comparable to others DEs that have been elected to the HoF. Lee Roy Selmon(78 1/2 sacks), Elvin Bethea(105 sacks), Howie Long(91 1/2 sacks) and Fred Dean(100 sacks) are all in the HoF.
I am not pushing for Too Tall to be in, but it would not be outrageous to consider it.
THUMPER
01-28-2010, 11:50 AM
Since much of his career was played before the NFL made sacks an official stat his 57.5 sacks does not look too impressive; however, he really had 106 sacks during his career.
Those 106 sacks is comparable to others DEs that have been elected to the HoF. Lee Roy Selmon(78 1/2 sacks), Elvin Bethea(105 sacks), Howie Long(91 1/2 sacks) and Fred Dean(100 sacks) are all in the HoF.
I am not pushing for Too Tall to be in, but it would not be outrageous to consider it.
Ed Jones was a much better DE than Fred Dean who was strictly a pass rusher. His ability to bat down passes and force QBs to throw away from him make him a more productive player than Dean.
bbgun
01-28-2010, 11:52 AM
It would help if Jerry put him in the ROH, but I could say that about any number of players.
Phrozen Phil
01-28-2010, 05:48 PM
Ed Jones was a much better DE than Fred Dean who was strictly a pass rusher. His ability to bat down passes and force QBs to throw away from him make him a more productive player than Dean.
Terry Bradshaw still has nightmares about Too-Tall. There's a famous picture that makes TB look tiny as TT is about to engulf him.
bbgun
01-28-2010, 06:16 PM
Terry Bradshaw still has nightmares about Too-Tall. There's a famous picture that makes TB look tiny as TT is about to engulf him.
maybe this one
http://img125.imageshack.us/img125/4528/photo0002bbbbcg6.jpg
rangers71
01-29-2010, 09:13 AM
Agreed on borderline. If he were a player from another team, say Pittsburgh, and got in with those stats we'd cry foul.
You are right, but the problem is that if he played for the Steelers he would have ben in a long time ago.
rangers71
01-29-2010, 09:14 AM
maybe this one
http://img125.imageshack.us/img125/4528/photo0002bbbbcg6.jpg
Is there any question that this play draws a flag in today's world?
jay cee
01-29-2010, 09:16 AM
You are right, but the problem is that if he played for the Steelers he would have ben in a long time ago.
You got that right.:banghead:
ConcordCowboy
01-29-2010, 09:17 AM
I say Too tall should be in there, considering some of the others...but !
Harvey Martin is a HOF ( no doubt about it !)
Sacks 114
Games 158
Interceptions 2
4ラ Pro Bowl selection (1976, 1977, 1978, 1979)
1ラ First-team All-Pro selection (1977)
3ラ Second-team All-Pro selection (1976, 1979, 1982)
NFL 1970s All-Decade Team
NFL Defensive Player of the Year (1977)
Super Bowl XII MVP
Harvey Martin not being in the Hall of Fame is a Travesty.
He should be in the Hall PERIOD.
What a load of BS!
And I agree Too Tall should be in too...but there's no doubt about Martin.
http://cdn.bleacherreport.com/images_root/slideshows/676/slideshow_67628/display_image.jpg http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2011/2447009270_1260af4e50.jpg
burmafrd
01-29-2010, 09:44 AM
Chuck Howley should have been in long ago. That is worse then Too Tall who should be in. And Harvey is just as big a snub as Howley.
jobberone
01-29-2010, 09:52 AM
Is there any question that this play draws a flag in today's world?
I see no reason for a flag there.
rangers71
01-29-2010, 10:11 AM
I see no reason for a flag there.
No i don't either I just hink that the way we over protect these sissy QB's of today that it would be a flag. In no way shape or form would I agree with it but I betcha it would be to close to the head for today.
ilovejerry
01-29-2010, 10:54 AM
Chuck Howley should have been in long ago. That is worse then Too Tall who should be in. And Harvey is just as big a snub as Howley.
Chuck Howley Without question.. the HOF writers are full of crap. they hate the Americas team stuff and will never let the deserving cowboys in .Its a damn shame and joke,
ilovejerry
01-29-2010, 10:59 AM
I see no reason for a flag there.
NFL football has totally changed i would say dramatically changed . There's now way a 40 year old QB ( K.WARNER or the beloved b.FARVE ) would last a season in the NFL of yesteryear. The NFL is protecting and changing the game I personally like the old version maybe because i'm an old fart and dont want to see change to help these players extend there careers. if it was good enough for the ole players then its good enough for todays players who by the way retire with a lot and I mean alot more scratch $$$$$
jobberone
01-30-2010, 05:20 AM
No i don't either I just hink that the way we over protect these sissy QB's of today that it would be a flag. In no way shape or form would I agree with it but I betcha it would be to close to the head for today.
You can still hit the QB as long as it's timely and you don't go to the legs or head.
NFL football has totally changed i would say dramatically changed . There's now way a 40 year old QB ( K.WARNER or the beloved b.FARVE ) would last a season in the NFL of yesteryear. The NFL is protecting and changing the game I personally like the old version maybe because i'm an old fart and dont want to see change to help these players extend there careers. if it was good enough for the ole players then its good enough for todays players who by the way retire with a lot and I mean alot more scratch $$$$$
I agree its changed but you can still hit the QB.
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