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dadymat
02-01-2010, 09:12 PM
2 years into a 5 years contract :banghead:


http://blogs.nfl.com/2010/02/01/titans-johnson-wants-to-be-nfls-highest-paid-rb/

Titans’ Johnson wants to be NFL’s highest-paid RB


Titans RB Chris Johnson, fresh off a 2,000-yard rushing season and scoring the winning touchdown in the Pro Bowl, has announced that he wants to be the highest-paid running back in the NFL.

The Tennessean reported Johnson’s wishes in Monday’s editions. However, Johnson also told the newspaper that he wouldn’t lobby the Titans through the media for a new deal.


“Hopefully they’ll want to give me a new deal,” Johnson said. “I think I deserve to be the highest-paid running back in the league, or even the highest-paid offensive player besides the quarterback.

“But it’s not like I am not going out in the media saying, ‘Pay me, I want a new deal now.’ I am just saying, if they were to pay me, I want that. Hopefully they want that, too.”

Johnson’s agent, Joel Segal, said the Titans haven’t reached out about a new contract. But Johnson added that he hasn’t even thought about a holdout.

Johnson just completed the second year of the five-year contract he signed after being drafted by the Titans in 2008. Johnson is scheduled to make a base salary of $560,000 in 2010, $800,000 in 2011 and $2.21 million in 2012, but that could increase with escalators in his contract.

Rams RB Steven Jackson became the highest-paid running back in the NFL in 2008, when he signed a six-year, $48.5 million deal.

Bob Sacamano
02-01-2010, 09:12 PM
this is getting ridiculous

CowboyFan74
02-01-2010, 09:15 PM
What was his signing bonus? Yeah it's getting ridiculous...

Rampage
02-01-2010, 09:31 PM
Rams RB Steven Jackson became the highest-paid running back in the NFL in 2008, when he signed a six-year, $48.5 million deal.
what was the contract that Jerry gave to Marry Barber?

Cowboys22
02-01-2010, 09:33 PM
It ridiculous when its someone else. If you were in his position, you'd want the money and security too. He could blow out his knee in minicamp, never be the same, and never get the big contract. He feels he has earned a big payday and wants it. I see no problem at all with that. Yeah, I know he signed a contract and should honor it, blah, blah, blah. Put yourself in a position where you are worth 10 times what you are being paid and think about how you'd feel being stuck there for another 3 years. Then think about living everyday knowing you may never make it to the end of that 3 years and still have the same earning power.

I usually can't stand when players do this but there are rare occasions when the player is right. He is the best RB in the league right now. RBs have short shelf lives and many good ones never see that big money 2nd contract. I think he's earned the right to ask for more money and I applaud him saying he is not considering holding out.

Romo 2 Austin
02-01-2010, 09:38 PM
They should just load up the contract with rewards for achievements I forgot what it is called lol.


like 1,000 yards rushing extra 500k, 500 yards receiving extra 300k, 10 tds extra 500k.

CowboyFan74
02-01-2010, 09:43 PM
They should just load up the contract with rewards for achievements I forgot what it is called lol.


like 1,000 yards rushing extra 500k, 500 yards receiving extra 300k, 10 tds extra 500k.

Incentives...

trickblue
02-01-2010, 09:50 PM
It ridiculous when its someone else. If you were in his position, you'd want the money and security too. He could blow out his knee in minicamp, never be the same, and never get the big contract. He feels he has earned a big payday and wants it. I see no problem at all with that. Yeah, I know he signed a contract and should honor it, blah, blah, blah. Put yourself in a position where you are worth 10 times what you are being paid and think about how you'd feel being stuck there for another 3 years. Then think about living everyday knowing you may never make it to the end of that 3 years and still have the same earning power.

I usually can't stand when players do this but there are rare occasions when the player is right. He is the best RB in the league right now. RBs have short shelf lives and many good ones never see that big money 2nd contract. I think he's earned the right to ask for more money and I applaud him saying he is not considering holding out.

I can certainly see that point, but when will these guys be willing to negotiate DOWN when they have a sucky year?

Bob Sacamano
02-01-2010, 09:53 PM
I can certainly see that point, but when will these guys be willing to negotiate DOWN when they have a sucky year?

you are wise

rojan
02-01-2010, 09:56 PM
I can certainly see that point, but when will these guys be willing to negotiate DOWN when they have a sucky year?

Didn't LT do that last year??

Cowboys22
02-01-2010, 09:57 PM
I can certainly see that point, but when will these guys be willing to negotiate DOWN when they have a sucky year?

When would you ever do that? They get negotiated down by being cut and because that looms over their head all the time, they want the money they are worth. I would too. CJ has a limited amount of years that he will be a top RB. I wouldn't want to waste the next 3 of them being grossly underpaid and risk never getting the big payday.

Biggems
02-01-2010, 10:27 PM
hmmm for someone who isnt going out to the media saying he wants to get paid......he sure did go out to the media saying he wants to get paid.

IMO, he deserves a raise....but what a contradiction of words.

ninja
02-01-2010, 10:39 PM
Not my problem:)

Not a Cowboy problem:)

stilltheguru
02-01-2010, 10:46 PM
I can certainly see that point, but when will these guys be willing to negotiate DOWN when they have a sucky year?


That's when they get cut.

ZeroClub
02-01-2010, 11:11 PM
After reading the article, I wonder if Johnson was just answering a reporter's question ("Chris, do you think you should be paid more, given your 2,000 yard season and Pro Bowl? Do you think you should be the highest paid RB in the NFL?").

So Chris basically answers, "Yeah, but I don't want to make an issue of it in the media."

And then the question-answer exchange is packaged in a way that makes Johnson look bad.

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It would be interesting to know the percentage of signed NFL contracts that go full term without renegotiation (up or down), injury settlement, or the player getting cut prior to the end of the contract's term, etc.

My guess is that the percentage would be well under 50%. (e.g. rookies sign multi year deals but most end up getting cut before the end of their contract's maximum term.)

BAZ
02-02-2010, 06:46 AM
He's not wrong to put the feelers out there, if you are looking for more money why not do it after a record breaking season? Titans would dumb as a brick to cave though.

Goldenrichards83
02-02-2010, 07:10 AM
It ridiculous when its someone else. If you were in his position, you'd want the money and security too. He could blow out his knee in minicamp, never be the same, and never get the big contract. He feels he has earned a big payday and wants it. I see no problem at all with that. Yeah, I know he signed a contract and should honor it, blah, blah, blah. Put yourself in a position where you are worth 10 times what you are being paid and think about how you'd feel being stuck there for another 3 years. Then think about living everyday knowing you may never make it to the end of that 3 years and still have the same earning power.

I usually can't stand when players do this but there are rare occasions when the player is right. He is the best RB in the league right now. RBs have short shelf lives and many good ones never see that big money 2nd contract. I think he's earned the right to ask for more money and I applaud him saying he is not considering holding out.
:hammer:

Beast_from_East
02-02-2010, 07:21 AM
It ridiculous when its someone else. If you were in his position, you'd want the money and security too. He could blow out his knee in minicamp, never be the same, and never get the big contract. He feels he has earned a big payday and wants it. I see no problem at all with that. Yeah, I know he signed a contract and should honor it, blah, blah, blah. Put yourself in a position where you are worth 10 times what you are being paid and think about how you'd feel being stuck there for another 3 years. Then think about living everyday knowing you may never make it to the end of that 3 years and still have the same earning power.

I usually can't stand when players do this but there are rare occasions when the player is right. He is the best RB in the league right now. RBs have short shelf lives and many good ones never see that big money 2nd contract. I think he's earned the right to ask for more money and I applaud him saying he is not considering holding out.


The Titans are one of the cheapest teams in the league, no way in hell they redo his deal. If he makes it to the end of his 5 yr deal, they will just let him walk like they did with Kearse (in his prime) and Haynesworth.

The Titans almost never pay big money to free agents.

thewireman
02-02-2010, 09:45 AM
It ridiculous when its someone else. If you were in his position, you'd want the money and security too. He could blow out his knee in minicamp, never be the same, and never get the big contract. He feels he has earned a big payday and wants it. I see no problem at all with that. Yeah, I know he signed a contract and should honor it, blah, blah, blah. Put yourself in a position where you are worth 10 times what you are being paid and think about how you'd feel being stuck there for another 3 years. Then think about living everyday knowing you may never make it to the end of that 3 years and still have the same earning power.

I usually can't stand when players do this but there are rare occasions when the player is right. He is the best RB in the league right now. RBs have short shelf lives and many good ones never see that big money 2nd contract. I think he's earned the right to ask for more money and I applaud him saying he is not considering holding out.

I could cut off my hand or easily get electrocuted at my job, but you don't see me going to the boss asking for 10 times more money than what I make because of the possibility of something happening to end my working career. I knew what I was getting into before I took the job, just like football players do. They are already paid really well for playing a 3 hour game for 5 months, I think they will be fine if something were to happen to them if they managed there money right more so than some worker making $40k a year that will be on disability the rest of there lives. This is just greed and egos, nothing more.

Cowboys22
02-02-2010, 10:03 AM
I could cut off my hand or easily get electrocuted at my job, but you don't see me going to the boss asking for 10 times more money than what I make because of the possibility of something happening to end my working career. I knew what I was getting into before I took the job, just like football players do. They are already paid really well for playing a 3 hour game for 5 months, I think they will be fine if something were to happen to them if they managed there money right more so than some worker making $40k a year that will be on disability the rest of there lives. This is just greed and egos, nothing more.

You are missing the main point. If you were making $40,000 a year but competitors were playing $400,000 a year for the same exact job, how would you feel? Would you stick around or put in an application down the street? Your market value is not 10 times what you are being paid and you could probably do your job until you retire. They could likely replace you with an add in the paper and get similar results. CJ has a few short years as a NFL RB and should not have to waste 3 years of his prime getting lowball wages, not after becoming the best RB in the NFL. If he was just average or good, I'd say go fly a kite but they cannot go out and replace him with the same money. He has earned a raise immediately in my opinion.

Sam I Am
02-02-2010, 10:23 AM
He has 3 years left. I let him ride it out it out for 2 more years, then I trade him for the house.

BraveHeartFan
02-02-2010, 10:37 AM
I could cut off my hand or easily get electrocuted at my job, but you don't see me going to the boss asking for 10 times more money than what I make because of the possibility of something happening to end my working career. I knew what I was getting into before I took the job, just like football players do. They are already paid really well for playing a 3 hour game for 5 months, I think they will be fine if something were to happen to them if they managed there money right more so than some worker making $40k a year that will be on disability the rest of there lives. This is just greed and egos, nothing more.


So you've never asked for a raise? You've always been content to just take whatever they're giving you?

If that's the case then you're not a very smart person.

Anyone who tries to claim that they wouldn't do the exact same thing, if the market value was there to do so for the jobs they're in, are liars.

Is it insane the amount of money they get paid and can demand? Absolutely. But guess what? That's the going rate for what they do and so anyone who is great at what they do and doesn't try to better their finacial situations while they can is just simply not a very smart person.

DFWJC
02-02-2010, 01:10 PM
CJ is an odd bird in that he pretty much says what he's thinking and is still too green to see how things can snowball. By all accounts, he's a great guy and a real prankster, but he can be naive when it comes to the media and the resulting perception.

He probably really does think he deserves to be the highest RB, but he wouldn't make an issue about it. If you've followed him, you'll see that this kid is very confident. What is amazing is that he set the bar high (for performance goals) in year one and people said he was nuts, and arrogant. He made those goals and set higher one the second year and they said the same thing...but again he blew away those goals. The he rewarded the o-line with Rolexes.

Have to give credit where it's due...

Anyway, it sounds like he is not even really pursuing a raise, so some of you don't get too bent out of shape.

big dog cowboy
02-02-2010, 09:02 PM
Titans RB Chris Johnson, fresh off a 2,000-yard rushing season and scoring the winning touchdown in the Pro Bowl, has announced that he wants to be the highest-paid running back in the NFL.
Well since he did that just give him anything he wants. :lmao:

cowboys#1
02-02-2010, 10:29 PM
It ridiculous when its someone else. If you were in his position, you'd want the money and security too. He could blow out his knee in minicamp, never be the same, and never get the big contract. He feels he has earned a big payday and wants it. I see no problem at all with that. Yeah, I know he signed a contract and should honor it, blah, blah, blah. Put yourself in a position where you are worth 10 times what you are being paid and think about how you'd feel being stuck there for another 3 years. Then think about living everyday knowing you may never make it to the end of that 3 years and still have the same earning power.

I usually can't stand when players do this but there are rare occasions when the player is right. He is the best RB in the league right now. RBs have short shelf lives and many good ones never see that big money 2nd contract. I think he's earned the right to ask for more money and I applaud him saying he is not considering holding out.
this



get it while you can CJ

skyboy
02-03-2010, 12:22 AM
Johnson is getting robbed. The rookie scale is ridiculous. Draft busts get paid 30 million while guys who gets drafted in late 1st round or later gets paid minimum wage.
Runnning backs have very short prime. Pay the man NOW. He deserves it.
When a player is washed up, he gets released. When a player is outproducing his contract, he should get a raise. Nobody should blame him if he holds out. That's just how it is with non-guaranteed contract.

Beast_from_East
02-03-2010, 02:55 AM
Johnson is getting robbed. The rookie scale is ridiculous. Draft busts get paid 30 million while guys who gets drafted in late 1st round or later gets paid minimum wage.
Runnning backs have very short prime. Pay the man NOW. He deserves it.
When a player is washed up, he gets released. When a player is outproducing his contract, he should get a raise. Nobody should blame him if he holds out. That's just how it is with non-guaranteed contract.

So if Mike Jenkins decides his contract is too small since he is now a probowler, you have no problem with him holding out???

How about Ratliff??? His contract was signed before he was an annual probowler, so you got no problem with him holding out???

How about Felix Jones, lets say he gets the majority of the carries next year and puts up 1600 yards and his agent tells him he has outplayed his deal and he holds out, you dont have a problem with that either???



You get my point??? This is a very slipperly slope and if a team starts redoing contracts then where exactly does it stop??? You have to take the approach that a signed contract is like giving your word. You agree to play for a certain amount of time and will be compensated with a certain amount of money. When you start changing either one of those variables, you open yourself up to other players saying "what about me"???

BAZ
02-03-2010, 04:01 AM
So if Mike Jenkins decides his contract is too small since he is now a probowler, you have no problem with him holding out???

How about Ratliff??? His contract was signed before he was an annual probowler, so you got no problem with him holding out???

How about Felix Jones, lets say he gets the majority of the carries next year and puts up 1600 yards and his agent tells him he has outplayed his deal and he holds out, you dont have a problem with that either???



You get my point??? This is a very slipperly slope and if a team starts redoing contracts then where exactly does it stop??? You have to take the approach that a signed contract is like giving your word. You agree to play for a certain amount of time and will be compensated with a certain amount of money. When you start changing either one of those variables, you open yourself up to other players saying "what about me"???

You make a good point, but if Austin was going to hold out because of he was still on his rookie contract, playing opposite Williams I don't think any Cowboy fans would complain about that.

I don't see a problem with Johnson putting it out there that he wants more money, but it the Titans cave straight away then they are just dumb.

Joshmvii
02-03-2010, 06:19 AM
From reading the original post, it looked more to me like he was saying when it's time for him to get paid again, he feels he should be paid top dollar, but not necessarily that he is insisting on it being now. He was a first round pick, so he can boo hoo all he wants about his initial contract, but one huge year does not make you the best RB in football, and it's not like he was a 5th round pick or something who didn't get a nice fat signing bonus.

DFWJC
02-03-2010, 08:23 AM
From reading the original post, it looked more to me like he was saying when it's time for him to get paid again, he feels he should be paid top dollar, but not necessarily that he is insisting on it being now. .
That is it....some of these folks did not read the post entirely and are jumping to conclusions.

CJ is not demanding a pay raise and has not even come out and asked for one specifically. Someone asked him if he thought he deserved a raise and top dallar and , of course, he sadi sure he does...but he will make make a big deal about it.

So settle down people.